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A09881 A consideration of the papists reasons of state and religion, for toleration of poperie in England intimated in their supplication vnto the Kings Maiestie, [and] the states of the present Parliament. Powel, Gabriel, 1576-1611.; Colleton, John, 1548-1635. Supplication to the Kings most excellent Majestie. aut 1604 (1604) STC 20144; ESTC S105148 106,538 134

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Whereas his Maiesties constant profession of the Gospell of Iesus Christ from his cradle vnto this day manifestly demonstrateth vnto all the world that his royall hart is most sincerely religious and no colluder with Heretikes 2 The Papists themselues testifie that it is impossible for Protestants Papists to liue togither in the same civill society Fieri non potest ex institutis politicis vti tam disparis sententia cultores commodè cadem societato civils continaantur Weston lib. 3. Cap. 14. pag. 198. 3 And indeede vnto a man though but of meane vnderstanding knowledge in the estate present of the world it cannot but seeme impossible for the Protestant and the Papist to inhabite commerce togither considering the intestine and implacable hatered of the one against the other 4 It is not wisedome to prooue the Papists fidelity in a kingdome nor to make triall of their earnest zealous emulation in so rare a iewell as his Maiesties person is for al their flattering speeches but rather to keep à vigilant and iealous eie open over them night and daie that they may not be able how willing so ever they would bee to do any thing to the annoyance of his royall person and of this noble state and kingdome II. To the Consequence 1 It is a grosse errour in Theology to commit sinne against the Maiesty of GOD to gaine the greatest good that may be much more to gaine a little worldly honor or other publike or particular advantage 2 It is a grosse errour in policie for gaining of idle momentanie reputation to make choice of certaine mischiefe Reason of State 6 6. REASON OF STATE NEither would toleration of Catholike Religion blesse your Maiestie and all your severall Dominions with the happynes precedent only but the same would also invite all the Catholike Kings Rulers in Christendome being incomparably more in number and potencie han are the Protestant Puricane and Lutheran Potentates to seeke and continue a true and reall league both of peace a A thing v●●●● vnlawful and conde●●ed to the worde of God R●●d the Answere amitie with your Highnesse the sourse and selfe life of princely felicitie and make your Maiesties choice of b ●●●●ful also matches for your children farre more noble rich ample in regard 〈◊〉 Catholike Prince will refuse to entertaine yea to me for like treatie where toleration of his Religion is by Royall assent permitted Resolution of the 6. Reason Toleration of Popish Religion will ●●●ite all Papisticoll Kings Rulers in Christendome to seeke and 〈◊〉 a true and reall ●●●gue b●●●●f●eace and ●●●ty with her Highnesse make his Maiestie choice of matches for 〈◊〉 children ●●ble 〈◊〉 and ample Ergo Toleration is to be ●●br●●ed ANSWERE I To the Antecedent 1 FAithfull Christians may lawfully ioine with faithlesse Idolatrers and other Infidels in league and so●●●● of Peace and Concord because by the generall calling of Christianity they are bound to haue peace with all 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 12.14 Rom. 12.18 2 As for the league or societie of Amitie that is of familiarity and special loue Christians may not ioine therin with Idolatours and Infidels Protestants may not contract league of mutuall ayde and protection with Papists I Because it makes Idolatours and Infidels boast that the people of GOD cannot stand without their aide II Because it is a farther occasion of Idolatrie III Because this league often infoldes the people of GOD in the same plagues and iudgments with Idolatours IV Because Iehoshaphat for making this kind of league with Achab was reproved 2. Chro. 19.2 Wouldst thou HELPE the wicked and LOVE them that hate the Lord Therefore for this thing the wrath of the Lord is vpon thee 3 GOD forbid that any Christian Prince professing the Gospel should match his royall Children with Idolators which the Scripture precisely condemneth I It is an abomination in Israell and a prophanation of the name of GOD when Iuda marrieth the daughter of a strange GOD. Malach. 2.11 II Such as do so prophane the covenant of GOD contēne their Brethren pollute the Church of GOD which should be holy and vndefiled III The Lord will cut of the man that doth this both the Master the Servāt out of the tabernacle of Iacob Malach. 2.12 II. To the Consequence 1. His Maiestie hath peace already with all Christian Princes and Nations GOD be thanked without toleration of Papistry 2. If he had no peace already yet were it not lawfull for his Highnesse to procure it by sinning against GOD in licensing the exercise of Idolatrie 3 As for the league of Amity either in speciall love protection or in cōtract of Marriage the same being vnlawfull in it selfe cannot any way inferre hatefull toleration of Popery Reason of State 7 7. REASON OF STATE IT is affirmed in holy Writte that Mercy Truth preserve the King and his Throne vestablished by clemencie Prov. 20.28 Avowances which before they were written the great Monarch Artaxerxes well observed and trusted vnto For ruling over many nations and hauing subdued the whole earth vnto his domin on concluded neverthelesse with himselfe as it is read in the booke of Esther To governe his subiects with clemencie and lenity Cap. 13. v. 2. And the reason is plaine for that the loue of the subiectes soonest and most woone by these vertues is the strongest Castel in the world an army if any other most puissant and a bulwarke inexpugnable And as nothing can sitte so neere a Christian mans soule as the religion hee beleeveth so vndoubtedly no mercie no clemency no lenity of what nature or in what matter soever can relish so sweete so lastingly gratefull so forcibly binding ravishing as it were conturing the harts of subiects as doth the mercy benignity which is shewed in licensing a A plaine incōsequence which no waies followeth out of the premises freedome of conscience the exercise of their religion So that by permission of Catholike religion a religion that of all other kinds o●religion hath b A manifest vntruth most and worthiest Professours in other Kingdomes that next border vpon your Highnesse and neither the c Another vntruth least nor meanest sort of subiects within your owne realme your Maiestie may make millions in and without your territories so entirely and affectionately d These mēprofesse they will woi be de voted vnto his Maiestie without toleration devoted to your person crowne and posterity as no attempt no danger no tumult can arise wherein your sacred Maiestie shall not finde e They speake by contraries present and securest harbour Resolution of the 7. Reason Mercy clemency benignity which is shewed in licensing freedome of conscience and the exercise of religion soonest and most of all winneth the loue of the subiect wherein his Maiestie shall finde present and securest harbour against all attemptes dangers and tumults Ergo. The free exercise of Popish religion
Poland are false for their estate is nothing so peaceable and flourishing as this Common-wealth is I Let vs consider the Roman Empire Shee having pitty to see that Church creeping as it did in the beginning vpon the ground suffered the same to embrace it and to growe vp by it as the Yvie doth by the oake whereof the Empire being a mightie tree indeed felte not at the first any annoyance but nowe findeth that it hath sucked it in such sorte as it hath drawne out all the iuice vigour of it being brought by it now to a withered stocke scarce able to beare the barren braunches that are vpon it For by meanes of Excommunicating and cursing the Emperours by giving the Empire to whom it pleased them by forcing warre betweene the House of Fraunce the Empire and other the noble Houses of Europe the Pope hath brought to passe that now there is no Emperour at-all at Rome but himselfe II France the world knoweth was almost torne in pieces by civill warres now by the banishment of the fire-brands thereof the Iesuites hath obtained peace III As for Poland the Popish Priests themselues confesse that the Iesuites excited and st●rred vp such an I hade of tumules civil warres amongst those Christians as that they caused of late more battels to bee fought then had bin in five hundred yeeres before Le Frank Discourse pag. 89. 4 So then it is not toleration that causeth peace in these kingdomes but other causes as is manifest 5 If toleration were the cause as the Petitioner pretends yet is that no sufficient warrant for his Highnesse to allow of wicked and dāgerous toleration in England For we must not live by examples but by lawes and rule of reason 6 Popish Princes may lawfully without disparagemēt of their estates permitte Protestants to exercise their religion within their kingdomes the doctrine which they professe being the only word of GOD which cā be preiudiciall to no estate or true policy But Protestant Princes may not permitte Papistes to exercise their idolatrie within their domimōs the doctrine which these professe being both contrary vnto the lawfull auctority of Kings and vnto the expresse word of GOD More plainely 7 The doctrine of the Gospel holdeth nothing that may impugne Kings lawfull right and auctority but contrariwise teacheth all due honor and obedience to be given to them and that for conscience sake Wherfore both they may suffer the exercise of it without danger yea to the great establishing of their states and thrones in security and assurance and consequently also such professours may be faithfull and loyall subiects yea even to heathen Princes as the Apostles and Fathers of the Primitive church were But a Papist that houlds a faith doctrine the maximes and rules whereof are opposite to the state and dignity of Princes though they alleadge a thousand times they stand but for their conscience religion yet because their conscience and religion is such as the principles and grounds of it are contrary to all States auctority the Magistrate cannot endure such a conscience and religion without the certaine danger of having the mace and scepter wrong out of his hands 8 Againe the Papists do intolerably wrong his Maiestie in soliciting of his Highnesse to graunt that whereof they can give no similitude of instance in any Protestant Prince Yea which the Pope himselfe cannot endure 9 For if toleration bee so beneficiall to the State as heere the Papists affirme wherfore do not they perswade the Pope all Popish Princes to practise the same within their dominions why do they not cancell the bloodie Inquisitiō surcease their persecuting of the Protestāts If they thinke this intolerable in their regiments wherfore should we iudge it tolerable in our State especially their Popish documēts being very fire-brands to set al on fire their Popes very leaches of our treasure that wil never be satisfied and very tyrants that will oppresse not onely the lawfull liberty of the people but also the royal power auctority of our Kinges Princes their Priestes Iesuites very bellowes of all sedition rebellion 10 SECONDLIE Toleration of Papistry is cōtrary vnto the word of GOD as I have proved in the A●swere vnto the first Supplication and also besides what I have written in this already shal be more plainely shewed in the sequele and therefore contrary to the doctrine which we professe It is written in the law that the false Prophet the seducing Idolater shold be takē from amongst vs slaine that all Israell may heare and feare and not dare to commit the like Deut. 13. We acknowledge that Faith is the gifte of God which commeth by the preaching of the Gospell and yet wee thinke it not vnlawfull for the Magistrate to execute the Lords iust vengeance vpon obstinate Heretiques and seducing Idolaters Repentance and holynes of life is also the gift of God and commeth by the same meanes and yet the Magistrate not only in a good conscience may but in duty to GOD ought to draw out the Lords sword of execution iustice and vengeance against all ill doers to wound and to kill according to the qualities of the offence So likewise ought he in this case And though conscience and religion be not put in by torments yet may one having his obstinacy chastened by auctority bee stirred vp to consider more seriously of the course he holds and by such occasion growing to a deeper examination of the cause through the grace of God attaine to the true faith And if they should not be cōverted yet is not the punishment in vaine For by it many which oftentimes by a dissolute lenitie would bee encouraged with impunitie and follow the same wicked waies are better advised and kept from destruction else were it in vaine said vvhich I haue alleadged before Take away the evill from amongst you that all Israell may heart and feare and not dare to doe the like 11 If any haue taught otherwise then this it can no more yea not so much preiudice our cause as nowe this pleading for toleration beeing a thing which they haue ever abhorred both in words writing doth preiudice the great Patrones of Vnity and Constancy in their profession as they tearme themselues the Papists II To the Consequence 1 The Antecedent beeing absurde and false all the breadth of heaven the Consequence must needs be absurde and false in like manner 2 If the Antecedent were true yet coulde not the Consequence bee admitted For it is not agreeables to the State nor yet supposed conformitie with the doctrine of the Protestāts if it be not otherwise simply true in it selfe that can make a thing lawfull and tolerable ¶ Hitherto of the Reasons of State Now follow the Reasons of Religion Reason of Religion 1 1. REASON OF RELIGION The Religion a Vntruth it is cleane contrarie vnto that Religion that vnder your Highnesse favour we
O Lord open the eies of these Men. The Auctors Teares and humble Petition vnto Almightie GOD. ALAS alas deare GOD Be there yet any left that pleade for Baal Hast thou not taught vs revealed vnto vs the impietie and iniquitie the infidelitie and irreligion of the Profession now vrged Haue not we after diligent inquirie deprehended it to be Idolatrie Blasphemie and Prophanation of thy name as appeareth by the worship of Idols of bread wood stone by their iustifications through their owne workes and so many other by meanes besides that only sweete Sacrifice of thy Sonne and by their false worship which is not a Service prescribed by thy worde but a meere devise of vnpure carnall profane and divellish wits Have not we founde the doctrine and practise of it as a Sea of Sin to be the cause of all disloyaltie dishonestie and wicked conversation amongst men as appeareth in that Antichristian Supremacie whereby the Man of Sinne in the divellish pride of his harte and seate challengeth vnto himselfe fulnes of power and soveraignety of iurisdiction to doe what pleaseth him in heaven in earth and in hell to dispense with what he list What greater encouragement can there be to sinne then that a man may be sure for a little money to haue a sealed pardon not onely for any wickednes cōmitted but also for al he shal cōmitte during his life many hundred yeeres after So absurdly wicked is their doctrine practise If by going on pilgrimage saying so many times over his beads fasting so many daies giving so much vnto Monkes Friers or maintaining so many Masses a man may satisfie for his sinnes and appease thy wrath ô GOD against the same who will be restrained from any wickednes or be carefull for amending his life But no marveile though so infinite a power of the Pope be so great a cause of sinne seeing the auctoritie of absolution which every Popish Priest hath is so fruitful in this kind to the incouragement and increase of wickednes we haue but too many woefull examples of such who absolved their disciples before hand to poyson and to murder the sacred persons of our Kings and Princes thine Anoynted If every Priest hath such a power to absolve from sinne what wickednes is there which these Absolvers will not dispense with and what security for an● Prince or State where such Priests and Absolvers may be enduted What shall I speake of the dishonestie and vncleanes of their secrete Confessions of their Stewes of their orders of Monkes and Friers vnlawfull vowes and single life which are causes of hypocrisies adulteries fornications and a thousand abominations of vncleannes What shal I speake of their Sāctuaries priviledged places exemptions immunities appeales and protections which must needes by impunity provoke men vnto all wickednesse It is as cleare as the Sunne both through thy Iust●ce ô most righteous GOD who canst not but from heauen reveile thy wrath vpon so great vngodlines the very nature practise of Popish Religion that it must needes be an enemie to all good policie whose end is to represse sinne and starke poison certaine ruine of all kingdomes States where it is established How long ô Lord how long wilt thou endure these Lovers of Babylon How long wilt thou suffer them to profane thy name to defile thy sanctuarie and to seduce thy Children We thy poore Servants in the Vniversities may write til our strength faileth vs preach yea cry out till we haue lost our voices and mourne till our hartes breake in defence of thy eternall truth against Popish Antichristianisme Yet vntill the Ministrie of thy Word be established in every part of our Land the bitter rootes therof wil never be cleane pulled vp Thou knowest ô GOD that some of the Ambassadours of thy Sonne are sufficiently provided for and we see and feele to our great griefe that our Ministrie in many yea in most places is vnprouided contrary to thy commandement and to the iust cause of feare of thy indignation against vs for it if it bee not some way in time relieved But this specially ariseth of the spoile which the children of Babylon in times past haue made by impropriating and annexing the living of so many particular Churches to the maintenance of their Cloysters Abbeyes and dignities by their Antichristian dispensations Whereby they haue left the Ministrie so marveilously vnprouided and so beggerly as that in some places there are to be found many Parishes togither wherof all the livings that now remaine to them are not sufficient for the competent maintenāce of one Man and his familie Which lamentable estate of our Church deterreth many from vndertaking that holy and honorable Function vvho having sufficient giftes seeing the Ministry oppressed with beggery and subiect to other discredit and inconveniences arising thereof bestovve themselues in some other lawfull calling wherein they may bee able to liue in wealth and credit By which meanes the vnsufficient and vnlearned Ministry seized vpon the possessions of the Church to the infinite hinderance of the Gospell to the increase strengthening of Poperie and the losse of thousands of Soules which CHRIST IESVS thy deare Sonne hath bought with his precious blood Alas alas that the poore Parish according vnto thy ordinance giveth the Tithe of al they haue to haue a Man of GOD amongst them who may teach them the righte way to serue and honor thee and to saue their soules alas I say that this Tithe should be taken away and still detained by the greedy Nabals hold-fast Labans of the world and applyed to profane vses leaving the poore spoyled of their goods and the whole parish vnfurnished of one who should be their guide to everlasting life By which devillish covetousnes they make themselues guilty not only of the horrible sin of Sacriledge and of the robbery of the goods of the people but also questionlesse of the destruction of many th usand Sou●es in taking detaining from them the meanes whereby they might be taught vnto salvation Alas that for any cause so many soules of thy People should perish Thou dost not delight in the death of a sinner and thou canst doe whatsoever thou wilt both in heaven and in earth thou mannagest the hearts of Kings commandest the Rulers of the pe●ple Incline I beseech thee the royall hart of our KING ô Lord and of the Peeres and Nobles of this kingdome now assembled togither to take pitty vpon the miserably-distressed Soules of thy children that by thy speciall favour and grace they may finde out some reasonable meanes whereby every Parish may recover their owne againe to the mainetenance of a worthy Minister amongst them Behold ô heauenly FATHER thy CHILDREN in many places of this land cry for bread even for the bread of life and there is no man that breaketh it vnto them the tongues of many cleaue to their roofe for thirst being ready to perish and no man giveth them the water of life to quicken their soules Wee cry vnto thee ô Lord thou art our FATHER harken vnto the teares of thy CHILDREN and graciously grant our request even for thy dearest Sonne IESVS CHRIST his sake who hath shed his most precious hart-blood for our Redemption so shall the saved Soules of thousands praise thee togither with thy Sonne and the Holy Ghost for evermore Revelat. 7.12 Amen Praise and Glorie and VVisedome and Thankes and Honour and Power and Might be vnto OVR GOD for evermore Amen FINIS