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A85229 Conscience satisfied. That there is no warrant for the armes now taken up by subjects. By way of reply unto severall answers made to a treatise formerly published for the resolving of conscience upon the case. Especially unto that which is entituled A fuller answer. By H. Ferne, D.D. &c. Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1643 (1643) Wing F791; Thomason E97_7; ESTC R212790 78,496 95

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arm_n nay_o after_o you_o appear_v in_o this_o posture_n what_o be_v deny_v you_o from_o nottingham_n that_o may_v give_v you_o cause_n to_o proceed_v in_o arm_n till_o you_o bring_v they_o to_o give_v the_o king_n battle_n you_o take_v away_o his_o arm_n and_o power_n against_o his_o will_n you_o use_v they_o in_o battle_n to_o the_o imminent_a endanger_n of_o his_o person_n and_o yet_o you_o take_v not_o arm_n against_o he_o and_o you_o can_v satisfy_v your_o conscience_n of_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o it_o see_v now_o whether_o you_o can_v set_v such_o a_o conscience_n before_o god_n tribunal_n and_o there_o lie_v the_o plea_n as_o you_o do_v pag._n 142._o lord_n thou_o who_o be_v the_o searcher_n of_o heart_n know_v we_o aim_v at_o no_o hurt_n to_o our_o king_n we_o desire_v to_o live_v in_o peace_n to_o deliver_v our_o kingdom_n and_o parliament_n from_o the_o rage_n of_o ungodly_a man_n to_o preserve_v what_o thy_o majesty_n what_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n and_o of_o this_o land_n have_v make_v our_o own_o dare_v you_o justify_v yourselves_o thus_o at_o his_o tribunal_n you_o may_v blush_v to_o speak_v it_o before_o man_n that_o know_v not_o your_o heart_n but_o see_v how_o you_o have_v actual_o invade_v the_o king_n right_a and_o power_n and_o imminent_o endanger_v his_o person_n if_o the_o mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n have_v not_o preserve_v he_o how_o you_o break_v through_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o nature_n not_o to_o preserve_v what_o be_v your_o own_o but_o to_o gain_v the_o lord_n know_v what_o thou_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o part_n of_o a_o christian_a but_o of_o a_o infidel_n not_o to_o provide_v for_o his_o family_n dare_v you_o thus_o entitle_v he_o to_o your_o bloodshed_n and_o rapine_n whereby_o you_o provide_v for_o yourselves_o have_v he_o teach_v you_o to_o provide_v for_o the_o family_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n by_o bind_v the_o master_n of_o the_o family_n and_o smite_v your_o fellow-servant_n as_o those_o do_v mat._n 24.49_o for_o the_o substance_n of_o what_o we_o have_v do_v it_o have_v be_v in_o thy_o name_n that_o we_o may_v be_v faithful_a to_o our_o king_n kingdom_n and_o parliament_n pardon_v we_o beseech_v thou_o the_o fail_n let_v your_o end_n which_o you_o pretend_v be_v never_o so_o specious_a if_o the_o mean_v you_o use_v be_v not_o lawful_a and_o warrantable_a as_o they_o be_v not_o for_o the_o very_a substance_n of_o they_o either_o by_o the_o law_n of_o god_n or_o man_n your_o plea_n will_v not_o hold_v but_o your_o account_n will_v be_v heavy_a for_o all_o the_o blood_n shed_v and_o misery_n this_o land_n have_v groan_v under_o which_o may_v have_v be_v prevent_v if_o reason_n will_v have_v satisfy_v you_o now_o the_o lord_n that_o be_v at_o hand_n grant_v you_o moderation_n and_o then_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o with_o his_o blessing_n we_o shall_v have_v peace_n in_o good_a time_n to_o the_o restore_n of_o his_o truth_n the_o king_n honour_n and_o right_n the_o due_a privilege_n of_o parliament_n and_o the_o subject_n liberty_n errata_fw-la pag._n 2._o med_n your_o for_o their_o p._n 9_o l._n 13._o your_o for_o their_o p._n 49._o l._n 11._o for_o 5._o r._n 15._o p._n 69._o l._n 9_o natuall_a r._n mutual_a the_o content_n of_o the_o several_a section_n sect._n i._n the_o case_n and_o the_o question_n upon_o it_o state_v sect._n ii_o the_o frame_n of_o this_o government_n as_o it_o be_v phansy_v in_o the_o full_a answer_n sect._n iii_o of_o the_o original_a of_o govern_v power_n of_o monarchy_n and_o of_o the_o beginning_n of_o government_n in_o this_o land_n sect._n iu._n of_o the_o coordination_n of_o three_o estate_n in_o parliament_n and_o of_o the_o supremacy_n of_o power_n sect._n v._o of_o the_o supply_n which_o be_v phansy_v upon_o the_o former_a coordination_n sect._n vi_o of_o the_o final_a resolution_n of_o this_o state_n judgement_n and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o declare_v law_n sect._n vii_o the_o final_a resolution_n be_v not_o arbitrary_a in_o the_o two_o house_n but_o only_o in_o the_o three_o estate_n sect._n viii_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v by_o the_o answerer_n upon_o the_o first_o section_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n ix_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o second_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n touch_v place_n of_o scripture_n pretend_v for_o or_o allege_v against_o resistance_n sect._n x._o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o three_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xi_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o four_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xii_o a_o confutation_n of_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o five_o sect._n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n sect._n xiii_o a_o answer_n to_o what_o be_v reply_v upon_o the_o two_o last_o section_n of_o the_o former_a treatise_n finis_fw-la