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A71313 Vox cœli, or, Nevves from heaven Of a consultation there held by the high and mighty princes, King Hen.8. King Edw.6. Prince Henry. Queene Mary, Queene Elizabeth, and Queene Anne; wherein Spaines ambition and treacheries to most kingdomes and free estates in Europe, are vnmasked and truly represented, but more particularly towards England, and now more especially vnder the pretended match of Prince Charles, with the Infanta Dona Maria. Whereunto is annexed two letters written by Queene Mary from heauen, the one to Count Gondomar, the ambassadour of Spaine, the other to all the Romane Catholiques of England. Written by S.R.N.I. Reynolds, John, fl. 1621-1650.; Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626, attributed name. 1624 (1624) STC 20946.8; STC 22096A; ESTC S114764 52,214 72

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setled peace hee deuoured this rich and noble Kingdome making it not onely tributary but a Prouince to Spaine And was this also Religion or to plant the Catholique faith or rather was it not manifest treacherie and apparant vsurpation such if Don Anthony had not all the world knowes the Dutches of Braganca had more right to this Kingdome then King Philip. P. H. Yea that policy King Phil. learnt of the Emperour Charles 5. his Father who when himselfe and King Francis the first of France contended for the Empire of Germany whiles Francis was bribing of the Electors Charles brought an Armie into the field and so enforced them to elect and choose him Q. M. I must confesse I euer held the Portingalls to be zealous and good Romane Catholiques but as Nauarre lay fit for Biscay and Galicia so Portingall lay exceeding comodious for Andoulosie and if my husband King Philip had not seconded his right of descent by the law of his sword perhaps he might haue had a bad neighbor in Portingall which he and his counsell timely fore-seeing they as wisely preuented And howsoeuer although he hated Don Anthonie yet I know he loued the Dutches of Braganca well but When we speake of Crownes and kingdomes Religion will make his surprise of Portingall a matrer of State though to speake truth State can neuer make it a matter of Religion Q. A. How Well King Phillip loued the Dutches of Braganca I know not but this I am sure of that both Monsieur de Boysise Monsieur de Bissea●…x and Monsieur de Marais Ambassadours with King Iames my Husband for the two last French Kings Henry 4. and Lewes 13. tolde me that Philips hatred and rage was so great against Don Anthony that he begged his body which lyes in a Coffin of Lead in the Cord-liers Church at Paris to be deliuered his Ambassadours and so sent him into Spaine but as they said these two most Christian Kings their Masters answered Philip that there was little Religion lesse charity to take vp and remoue the ashes of a dead Prince and King as was Don Anthony and so his body still remeanes in Paris P. H. If Spaine were so malicious to a dead Prince how ought those that are liuing to beware and take heed of him H. 8. As a guilty conscience can neuer finde ●…est so it may be that King Philip was afraid of a second Don Anthony as of a second Sebastian P. H. But King Philip 3 his sonne hath farre more reason to feare Don Anthony his two Princely sonnes Don Emanuel and Don Christopher and of Don Emanuell his two generous and Illustrious Sonnes Don Maurice and Don Lewes all foure liuing who are fam●…os and Royall reserued Peeres of Shipwracke of that Royall Kingdome and blood of Portingall Q. M. O but they are poore and want friends and meanes to advance their iust title to that Crowne if they haue any E. 6. Their right and title to Portingall is iust and therefore cannot and should not dye Q. E. If the French forces had met mine at the Groyne Peneca or Lisbone or had the Portingals ●…isen my Norris Drake and noble Essex in despight of Philip and his forces had pluck'd the Crowne of Portingall from his head and set it on King Anthonies P. H. No no Don Anthonies Sonnes are beloued of the Nobilitie of England France and the Netherlands and Don Emanuels wife is Sister to that valiant and incomparable Captaine Maurice of Nassaw Prince of Orenge So if fortune smile and a fauourable gale blow these disinherited Portingall Princes may one day proue pricks and thornes to the sides of Spaine For all Portingall knowes that their veines and hearts streame with pure Portingall blood yea with the remainder of the royall blood of that Kingdome which Philip 3. his last entertainment together with the Prince his sonne at Lisbone had almost found true but that his Maiestie departed with as much feare secresie and shame as he came with resolution popularitie and glory in the interim these Portingall Princes remaine prodigious and ominious Commets to Spaine Q. M. Did Spaine thinke so it would quickly make these Princes ride Poast into another world Q. E. If Spaine should send these Princes Poast into another world either by the b●…cke doore of poyson by the wicket of a Ponyard and not by the great and fore-dore of Nature it would draw the fists of most Christian Prince about King Philips eares and make all Portingall solemnize their Funerals with their swords drawn and their Cities gates shut E. 6. Indeede I haue heard that the Commons and especially the Nobillitie of Portingall begin extreamly to distaste the imperious pride and ambitious carriage of the Spaniards as many of them let not to say boldly and publiquely that Phillip enioyes the Kingdome by vsurpation and n●…t by right Q. M. Not by right Why Pope Gregory 14. approued his Title and confirmed his Conquest of the Kingdome of Portingall Q. E. So did not our Sauiour Christ whose Successour and Vicar the Pope pretends himselfe to be P. H. In the meane time Spaine domineeres at her Conquest of Portingall and well shee may for it is one of the fairest flowers of his Garland and of the richest Diamonds of his Crowne H. 8 But the other Kings of Christendome haue ●…ust cause and reason to grieue and storme hereat for as it was Portingals mischance then to fall and vaile Bonnet to Spaine so it may be theirs to morrow for to a Prince and people so greedy and ambitions of Empire as is Spaine all fish is good that comes to his hooke or net P. H. Thus Spaine deuoures Kingdomes as the Cyclope Polephemus did passengers for he surprizeth no more then he meetes withall and yet will not Chirstendome beware of Spaine Italy H. 8. VVE haue past from Nauarre the West Indies Portingal now let vs come to Italy to see how Spain is beloued or feared of the Italians how he hath behaued himselfe there E. 6. In Italy the King of Spaine is nayled to the Pope as most of the Colledge of Cardinals and all die Iesuites are to him yea he hath the greatest and richest territories thereof as the Kingdome of Naples the Dutchy of Millane and the Island of Cicily and in a mannet the Marquesse of Monaco and Finall the Dukes of Montoua Parma and Vrbin the Princes of Massa and Piombino with the States of Genoua and Luca doe all march vnder his banner and call onely on his name yea he hath so incircled the Pope as hee is rather his Prisoner then his spirituall Father for if his Patrimony of St. Peter be the Temple his Naples and Millane is the Cloyster to impall it so as he hath no impeachment or obstacle from making himselfe sole Lord of Italy but the great Duke of Tuscany and the prudent and potent Seignorie of Uenice Q. M. O but the Pope neede not feare the King of Spaine for ●…s Spaine is the
in the deliuery hereof betweene the King of Spaine and the Duke of Sauoy because I haue heard that of the two Princesses their daughters hee preferd that of Sauoy before this of Spaine H. 8. No no my Nephew Henry is a iudicious and iust Prince therefore I know he will not wrong Spaine to doe right to Sauoy Q. A. He resembles King Iames his Father too well who will still loue the King of Spaine although therein he hate himselfe therefore speake on faire Sonne P. H. When Great Henry of France my honoured Vncle made warres vpon the present Duke of Sauoy for the 〈◊〉 of his Marquisat of Saluses then this Phillip King of Spaine vnder the pretence and shew to ayde the Duke his brother in Law against the French sent him may troopes and Regiments of Spanyards for the preseruation of his State when the Peace being made betwixt the King and the Duke and the exchange for Saluses with the Countries of Bresse and Gex ratified and accomplished These Spanish Regiments being quartered in Carboneres Mountemellion Sauillan Pignorall and other places of Sauoy and ●…iedmont they vpon no request or assummons made them by the Duke would depart thence but being commanded the Contrary by the Count de Fuentes Vice-roy of Millan as he wa●…●…rom the King his Master from Spaine they peremptorily r●…solued and vowed to keepe firme footing which they long time did vntill at last that wise and Valiant Duke being thereunto constrained for the securitie of his estate whose eminent and vtter subuersion he apparantly saw before his eyes he very nobly cut all their throats H. 8. Beleeue me his Highnesse of Sauoy did well for it was an act most worthy of his iudgement and generositie Q. M. But the King of Spaine the Dukes of Lerma Pastramae Denia Albecurque Tolledo and all the Counsell of warre of Spaine vow to haue their reuenge of this affront Q. E. Spaine hath done his worst to Sauoy already for as long as France loues Sauoy Sauoy needs not feare Spaine at least mine Authors tell me so who are that famouss Captaine the Duke of Dedisguieres his valiant son De Crequy and noble Du Fremes Q. A. Though this one wrong be one too many yet is these all wrongs that this King of Spaine hath offered this Duke of Sauoy P. H. No Madame for although the Duke winke and seemes with father Aubigny to haue the art of forgetfulnesse yet he well remembers how Don Iuan de Faxis Spaines Ambassadour in France told Lullius Arconas and Alimes his Highnesse Ambassadours at Lyons that the King his Master would Conttibute towards the Exchange of the Marquisat of Saluces conditionally it remained on that side the Alpes from the French and since how his Catholique Maiestie hath performed nothing He remembers Spaines Plots vpon his Castle of Nice the key not only of his Countries but of Italy when his Spanish Galleyes lay at Villa franca to bereaue him of his Children Hee remembers how the Spanish Cardinals oppose his precedency at Rome with the Duke of Florence and how the Catholike King or his Vice-roy of Millan for him was the match and Incendiary to set fire twixt the Duke of Mantoua and him For the Marquisat of Montferrad Q. E. We may see what a kind brother in Law the King of Spaine is and what it is to build vpon his alliance affinitie promises and assistance P. H. I am glad the Duke of Sauoy and the Princes his children haue now purchased the length of Spaines foote E. 6. They haue reason to haue it for they were all enforced to take it with their Swords ●…ikes and Lances at Cassallo Uerceile and other-wheres Q. A. As long as Sauoy loues not Spaine The Marquis of Lullius and Monseur De 〈◊〉 told me it needes not feare it Q. M. O but as long as Spaine Knockes at the Gates of Sauoy and Piedmond he may at last enter Q. E. Sauoy hath reason to enter Millan not Spaine Sauoy Q. M. But time and the policie and Swords of Spaine cut all donations and rights in peeces P. H. Sauoy hath had warnings enough to beware of Spaine and therefore as I euer loued that generous Duke so I hope that he and the Illustrious and valiant Princes his Sonnes will neuer want arme of steele and hearts of Diamonds to out-braue Spaine who with such ambition and malice seekes to out-braue it France H. 8. But what sayes France of Spaine Q. M. My honoured Father all the world knowes that Spaine hath euer loued France well Q. E. Yea too too well and so well as France will neuer loue Spaine much lesse trust it in requitall Q. M. Why hath not Spaine reason to ballance and counterpoise the power and greatnesse of France P. H. Yea but not to seeke to make that famous and flourishing Kingdome become a Prouince to Spaine Q. M. Spaine neuer wisht it much lesse attempted it Q. E. Yeares more often then France hath Prouinces or Spaine Cities P. H. Why who was the Author and Protector of the League but first Spaine then the Pope and next the Deuill Q. M. O that was onely to preserue Catholikes and the Catholike Religion and to exterminate and root out Heretickes and was not this well done of the King of Spaine sith he is the Catholike King E. 6. Nay now the least childe in France knowes that Religion was onely the pretext but Empire and Dominion the obiect of that League How els dared Mendoz●… Spaines Ambassadour in Paris seeke the Crowne of France for the Infanta of Spaine or how els dared the Iesuites his Ministers in their seditious Sermons and pernicious Pamphlets aduance her right to the Crowne and Kingdome when God and the world knowes she had none to it Q. M. Why it was when God had caused that good Fryer Iames Clement to kill that bad King Henry the third at Saint Clou and when indeed that Kingdome was without a head and then the King of Spaine had reason to aduance his Daughters Title to France in right of her mother Elizabeth that Queene of Peace notwithstanding the fundamentall power of the Salique Law to the contrary H. 8. You are deceiued daughter for it was a good King and a bad Fryer or rather a Diuell in a Fryers weed to set handes on the Lords anoynted but this arrow came out of the quiuer of Spaine and Hell for that bloody and execrable murther was no sooner perpetrated but then instantly followed the proposition of the Infantaes Title to France which apparantly makes the murther to be Spaines Q. M. It was the Dukes of Mayene Mercu●…ur who drew the King of Spaine to assist the League and in it France Q. E. No no contrarywise it was the King of Spaine that debouch'd and drewthese two Dukes and with them almost all the Nobillitie to f●…rge and contriue this League and in it to ruine France for already France was almost Spaine and the Infanta had vndoubtedly borne the Crowne
if Great Henry his victorious sword had not pul'd off Spaines maske and so cut her Title and its pretence in peeces Q. M. But see the equitie and iustice of King Philip for when Henrie that Heriticke King came to the Crowne he restored him Calais Dourlans Ualencienes Blauet and all other townes and Castles which he had formerly wonne and Conquered in France P. H. But all this was not worthy thankes for Philip alone restored that which he could not nor dared not to keepe Q. M. Nay obserue farther how religious King Philip was in imitation of King Agesilaus for he kept his faith inuiolable towards Henrie 4. although he were an heritique King P. H. Nay obserue how irreligious and treacherous King Philip was to King Henry 4. in imitation of Antaxerxes the Son of Xerxes for he violated his faith and frindship towards him in debaushing of Biron Marcanques Loste whose promises and gold made them Traytors to theit King and Country E. 6. Surely I thinke it is incident and I feare it will proue hereditary to the Kings of Spaine to conquer more by treachery then by the sword Q. E But had Great Henrie liu'd he would haue required these courses of Spaine as also that of Guyguard and Chastell who although the report runne otherwise had their greatest light and encouragement from beyond the Pyreene mountaines for to speake truth he in hart could neuer be drawne to loue Spaine P. H. Yea that Spaine knew full well for when the French Iesuits his Ministers had vnlocked that mistery they like bloody Schoolemasters so diuilishly instructed and fortified that monster of men Rauilliaek their execrable and damnable desciple that he soone sent him hither in a bloudy Coffin Q. M. But you will not say that the King of Spaine was accessary to Henry the 4. his murther P. H. No but I will say that if the truth were knowne the opening of that veyne would make many great Birds yea and many learned ones too bleede themselues to death and peraduenture the wounds and scarres thereof would bleede an hundred yeares hence Q. A. The Marshall of Lauerdin whispered me a word concerning this which I shall neuer forget onely he requested my secrecie therein so the King of Spaines Lerma and the Queene Mother of France her D'Anchre his Mariano and her Cotton shall giue mee leaue to thinke Q. M. Questionlesse it were the sinnes of that King and the finger of Heauen that cut off the thred of his life Q. E. Questionlesse you are deceiued Sister for it were the sinnes of France who made the Knife and the treasons of Spaine and Rome which made that Parracide Rauilliack performe H. 8. Well in despight of Rome Spaine and Hell that victorious and glorious King is wafted hither in triumph therefore leaue we him with God and God with him and let vs see since his deplorable death how kinde King Philip of Spaine hath beene to King Lewes his sonne Q. M. So kinde that hee hath matched King Lewis to his eldest Daughter the Infanta Anna and his eldest sonne Prince Philip to the eldest Princesse of France Madame Elizabeth that now these two mightie Kingdomes and Houses seeme to be but one Q. E. This is faire to the eye of the world but it will be excellent if the end of these matches proue fortunate for France H. 8. Who were the Match-makers P. H. S. P. Q. R. or to bee better vnderstood Spaine Pope and Queene Regent Q. E. If King Philip of Spaine be Heyre as well to his Fathers ambition as to his Kingdomes he will loue France so well as to push and fish for it P. H. What force could neuer effect he hopes those Marriages now will E. 6. Indeed the Snake lurkes vnder the fairest greene leaues and the Aspick vnder the purest and sweetest Roses Q. E. No Kings of the world know better how to dissemble then the Catholique Kings P. H. You speake Scripture not tradition Q. M. And you tradition not Scripture H. 8. But what entertainement had the Infanta of Spaine in France P. H. Noble Royall Glorious E. 6. What trayne of Spaniards brought shee with her into France P. H. A very great trayne for Monsieur de Marais the French Ambassadour with the King my Father tolde me that Monsieur d●… Bo●…elle Maister of the Ceremonies to the French King reported that when the first of them were entring Paris at Saint Iaques Gate that the l●…st were but comming ●…owne the Pyrene Mountaines Q. A. But what did all this rabble of Spaniards doe in France P. H. To speake truth they fell presently to skrewing and working themselues into the State by begging and buying of Offices Places Pensions and Gouernments both in Church and Common-weale and by making Pensioners for Spaine and consequently a bridge and passage for the King their Master to enter H. 8. But how did the Parliaments the Priuie Councell and the Nobilitie of France brooke and digest this Q. E. Yea that is a question of state indeed P. H. As for the Parliaments and Priuie Councell many of them are so Iesuitiz'd as they are Spaniards in heart though French in tongue and therefore they were so farre from preuenting as they gaue way to it onely for the Princes and Nobilitie some few excepted they resembling themselues vowed and swore that their swords should cut the Pennes and Tongues in pieces of any Spaniard whatsoeuer that dar'd propose or attempt it for they spake aloud and affirm'd the Florenti●…es had taught them wit E. 6. A braue resolution of the French Nobilitie for the greatest of a State haue alwayes the greatest interest in the State those Princes and Nobles are therefore highly to bee applauded and praised and such of the Priuy Councell and Parliament who tacitely are delinquents and Traytors to their Prince and Countrey deserue to be found out arraig●…ed and sacrificed to the good of the Common-weale either with a sword or a halter Q. M. But what said the Clergy of France to this Q. E. Sister it is to be feared as you wish and desire P. H. Why they out of passionate zeale more then of zealous and sollid iudgement approue of any Match for their King so it bee not with a Protestant and yet of none so well as of this with Spaine demaund their reason and they will answer you with as much vehemency as ignorance that the King of Spaine is the Catholique King and if you come further to particularize they reply that their Cardinals who indeede are onely the Popes creatures shall deliuer more at the estates Generall So the Clergie bad the Spaniards welcome into France Q. E. But where are the Firebrands and Incendiaries of the State the French Iesuites who indeed are the Fistulaes and Botches of a State what entertainment gaue they to the young Queene and her Spaniards P. H. Surely Aunt they crouched very low to the Queene but in Cottons absence Arnoux and Berrulla their Tongue and Eare whispered so
secretly to her Maiestie that I could neither gather nor vnderstand what they said but I guest at it onely they gaue faire words and actions to all the Spaniards in generall and to the Nobler and wiser sort of them in particular they engaged themselues to keepe curious correspondence with the Catholique King to whom they affirmed and swore by their Semie-God and sole Patron Ignatius Loyalla they would beare true obseruance as the Marigold doth to the Sunne Q. A. Are not these two Iesuites the French Kings ordinary Preachers and yet dare they doe it Q. E. Although Berrulla be the Father of the Oratory yet he is in heart and soule a Iesuite and Arnoux is the Arch-Iesuite of France and the Kings Confessour and yet they dare and will doe it H. 8. But how did the Queene Regent entertaine the Spaniards P. H. Courteously and Nobly because shee made the Match which since she hath repented tho yea and the Duke of Mayene too who concluded and finished it And so did Villeroy likewise although it were too late But Sillery and D●… Uair loue Spaine so well as their courages are so masculine that though they see their errors in perswading these matches yet they rather persist then acknowledge it for like good cleare-sighted States-men they haue wit enough to beare vp with the time for otherwise they know the times will not beare vp Q. M. But how did the Commons of France entertaine the Spaniards Q. E. Truly I thinke they will neuer be perswaded to like the fashion of the little Hat and great set Ruffe Q. A. Son Henry pray answere Queene Mary P. H. If we may iudge of Hercules by his foote so we then may of France by those of Paris which is the eye the heart the soule thereof where the Citizens in all streetes and especially the Lakeyes at the Lourre gate and the new bridge still salute the Spaniards as they passe by by these courteous Epithites Boracho Pantalones and Bouriques H. 8. How long remained all these Spaniards in France Q. M. So long I warrant you vntill they did all their Kings businesse and their owne too before they departed P. H. In truth so long till all France was weary and distasted of them and their proceedings yea so many yeares that at last the King and Counsell were in a manner constrained to send them away by an Edict as they themselues not many yeares since did the Moores Q. M. The banishing of the Moores was a good and wholesome Counsell of Spaine Q. E. And I assure you sister the sending home of the Spaniards was as excellent one in France for vpon the matter they were but spyes moaths and drones and would haue proued so to France if they had continued there longer E. 6. But were they all sent home and none left at the Court of France to giue and receiue packets too and fro for the Iesuites the king of Spaines Factors and Agents Q. E. O no assure your selfe for the Councell of Spaine is too wise to commit so grosse and palpable an errour of State P. H. Therefore to cast the thicker mist and to put the better varnish one the businesse The Countesse De la Tour was left there with the title of gouernesse to the young Queene and there is as much correspondencie betwixt her and Don Ferdinand de Geron the Ambassadour of Spaine as there is betwixt him and the French Iesuites Q. A. Thus Spaine leaues alwaies a Sting behinde him and I feare France will in the end finde it so Q. M. Whereon is your suspition and feare grounded Q. A. Vpon the apparant symptomes of the Lethargie Feuer or Consumption of France E. 6. You say right Madam and the Noblest and truest hearted Frenchmen participate of your apprehension for the Iesuites being the Popes Factors and the King of Spaines Oracles and Agents haue already corrupted the Parliaments and Priuie Councell who should bee her Illyum and Acrocorynth They haue vndermyned and ruinated the Sorbone heretofore her Palladium once the Queene of Vniuersities Who now as a mournfull Widdow sits with her haire dandling about her eares and her teares trickling downe her cheekes liuing onely in her shaddow or Ghost or rather in her ruines for the Genius and Soule hath already made a transmigration to Clermont House Yea and to speake true French in our English tongue they by their deuilish Aphorismes and bloudie positions vnder a false and hipocriticall shew of Learning and Pietie doe poyson and corrupt the Youth and prime Wits of France as the Iewes did the springs and fountaines in England Q. E. Also the Clergie of France degenerates from its Pristine candor and zeale to the good of France and the glory of the French Church for they receiue Lawes from the Popes Nuncio and the Iesuites to whom they should giue them How else at the last generall Estates of Paris and the assembly of Notables at Rouen were they so vnwise dishonest and cowardly to referre themselues to the two Cardinals Perron and Gondye who like good Cardinals but bad Frenchmen hauing onely their Bodies in France but their hearts at Rome in thankfulnesse to the Pope for their red Hats forgat themselues and their allegiance so much as to prostitute and debase that famous Crowne and flourishing Kingdome of France to be dependant to Rome in Temporall matters notwithstanding the Pragmaticke Sanction and the prerogatiues of the Crowne and Church of France to the contrary whereat the Popes Nuncio at Paris laught with open mouth So did the Colledge of Cardinals and the Pope himselfe at Rome and likewise the Catholike King in Spaine with all that huge rabble of Iesuites whiles all the Kings Soueraigne Princes and free Estates of Europe Spaine and Italy excepted greeued and lamented at it with as much shame as wonde●… E. 6 Indeed these are two maine points and reasons that the greatnesse and genero●…ity of France declynes and that Rome and Spaine will shortly sl●…uffie the Cards so well as it must needs be made a Prouince to Spaine for they both haue consulted and finde that what couldnot be effected during the Reigne of old Henry may in these of young King Lewes his Sonne P. H. It is not impossible rather likely for France abounds in a moustrous height of Pride and Sinne And the old Cleargie of France admit of so many new orders of Fryers and Nunnes that almost all is out of order and the seuenteene Millions which the Duke of 〈◊〉 left by accompt to the Queene Regent is all long since spent and twice seuenteene more So as although the 〈◊〉 be still on foote Monopolyes neuer so rife the Finnances or Exchequer drawne dry and exhausted yet the King is extreamely 〈◊〉 to his Nobilitie and Pensioners and is not this 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 King of Spaine H. 8. 〈◊〉 Great Henry liued he would haue remedied and preuented these calamities Q. A. But his Sonne King Lewes is not so happy to doe it no not his
States doe but are still armed and ready to march and followe their colours Q. E But there is no Warre would be so acceptable and pleasing to them as vp to Millane or downe to the free Country Brabant and Heynault if France Sauoy and Uenice would command them the first and England France and Holland ordayne and giue way to the second Q. A. What is not past is yet to come Q. M. Yea but the Councell of Spaine hath policy enough to insinuate and temporize with all these Princes and States and so to diuert their Designes and frustrate their resolutions if they were bent that way P. H. It hath indeede hitherto proued so by Spaine for their policy and treachery hath purchased and gotten them more Countries then either their valour or swords Q. M. These easie Conquests are still sweet and pleasing to Spaine P. H. Yea but they are neither honest nor iust E. 6. But hath not Spaine 〈◊〉 with the Swissers for their confines and limmits Q. E. Yes two wayes next Germany by Leopoldus and betwixt Losanno and Gray in the free County by the Archduke Albertus Q. M. Yea the King of Spaine will angle so long till he take Q. E. But hath not Spaine attempted by his Ambassadours and Agents to sowe discention and discord amongst these Heluetian Cantons to oppose them one against the other and so to debauch and withdraw them first from the French Kings seruice and then to his owne P. H. Yes many times but that tricke of Spaine is now growne olde and thrid-bare so as the Swissers vowe to remedy the first and the French Kings to preuent the second Q. M. But the Catholique King will watch those Swissers a good turne and if the Ephinaerides of his en●…ie ambition and greatnesse faile him not either his Spinola or his Pedro d●… Tol●…do shall one of these dayes dine with him at Berne Friburg or Soleurre ere their Table-cloathes be layed Q. E. But Sister you are deceiued in the Swissers for their Table-cloathes are alwayes nayled to their Tables yea they haue so great a quantity of Swords Pikes and M●…skets in a readinesse to giue any Enemy of theirs a bloudy banquet th●…t if Phillip King of Spaine dare assault them they doubt not but to vse him as they haue formerly done Phillip Duke of Burgundy whom they ouerthrew in three seuerall pitch'd battels at Gra●…son Morat and Nancy where he losed his treasure his men and his life The Grisons H. 8. BVt how stand the Grisons affected to Spaine E. 6. Spaine through the vicinity of Millane doth so often knocke at their doores that if they keepe them not fast shut they know or at least feare that he will shortly enter by the Uoltaline and Chiauena Q. M. O though of late they made a shew of resistance yet the gold of Spaine the neighbourhood of Millane the Fort Trents but chiefly their owne credulity and security hath almost brought them to the King of Spaines lure Q. E. This people were both warlike and wise P. H. But Spaine will briefly make them fooles and cowards if they will hearken vnto him Q. M. As how Nephew pray be not bitter against Spaine P. H. Why fi●…st Spaine will 〈◊〉 them vp in peace and security till matters be ripe or else he will engender factions and sowe discords among themselues either ●…or Religion or ranke or betwixt them and their dearest friends the Swissers and so when hee sees all things ready and the Iron hot then he will march and strike and not faile to vnite and annex the Cantons of the Grisons to Millane as he hath already done Millane to Spaine H. 8. If the Grisons at any time lose the Swissers friendship or their owne vigilancy and generosity it will not be long ere they shake hands with their liberty and liues Q M. So Spaine hopes for if warre cannot worke and effect it they make no doubt but peace shall Q. E. If the Grisons hearken to the Charmes of Spaine they are halfe lost Q. M. If they hearken not to Spaine they are wholly vndone but if they listen to Spaine all will be well H. 8. Yea Daughter I beleeue for the Spaniards but not for the Grisons Q E. To trust to Spaine is to rely on a broken staffe and to harbour a serpent in our owne bosomes P. H. To trust to the promises of Spaine is to commit our selues to the mercy and protection of a Lyon who will deuoure vs. Q. M. The Grisons will see and say the contrary E. 6. So will I say if I see the contrary till when I feare the Grisons will buy their peace as well with teares as bloud Sauoy H. 8. BVt how doth Sauoy brooke Spaine for I take it this present Duke Charles Emanuell married this King Phill. 3. his second sister the Infanta Katherina Michaela P. H. Sauoy loues Spaine as it hath deserued of it for the noble and generous Duke thereof cries out God de●…end me from such a brother in law as King Philip. Q. M. I beleeue if the Catholique King offered that Duke any vnkinde office it was nothing but because hee was so neere a neighbour to Geneua as he and the Pope suspected his Highnesse would turne Caluinist Q. E. Alas that good Citie of Geneua why all the world knowes the Dukes loue to it and its Religion witnesse the Barron of Attigna●… and his Consorts as also Terraill and Bastide but if there were once a Spanish Garison in this Citie Sauoy would soone know how to distinguish betweene good and bad neighbours E. 6. But it is the laughture of the world to say that Spaine hates Sauoy because he loues the Religion of Geneua P. H. Yet this is as true as many other of Spaines Colours pretexts and euasions when he hath a purpose and plot to vsurpe Q. M. Why wherein hath the King of Spain abused or wronged the Duke of Sauoy P. H. First in being himselfe the chiefe cause and subiect and then m●…king him the Instrument and executioner to cut off the two noble heads of Biron in Paris and D'Al●…igny in Turin Q. M. Why the Catholique King is the vniuersall King and therefore it is not strange if in all Countries of the world hee haue his farre fetch'd policies Agents and Instruments to make his stra●…agems and resolutions take effect for those who are obstacles to his will and pleasure his verball friendship shall alwayes proue their ●…eall ouerthrow and subuersion howsoeuer hee and his Ministers pretend and make shew of the contrary Q. A. Nay let vs leaue Biron and D'Albigny in their Graues for me thinkes it is a poore charity to take vp the ashes of the dead And for our better information let vs take a suruey of the courtesie or rather of the cruelty that Spaine hath offered Sauoy E. 6. None knowes nor can deliuer the particular truth thereof so well as your Royall Sonn●… Prince Henry Q. M. But I feare my Nephew will be too partiall