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A10672 Vox cœli, or Newes from heauen Of a consultation there held by the high and mighty princes, King Hen. 8. King Edw. 6. Prince Henry, Queene Mary, Queene Elizabeth, and Queene Anne, wherein Spaines ambition and trecheries to most kingdoms and free estates of Europe, are vnmasked and truly represented, but more particularly towards England, and now more especially vnder the pretended match of Prince Charles with the Infanta Dona Maria. VVherunto is annexed two letters written by Queene Mary from heauen, the one to Count Gondomar, the ambassadour of Spaine, the other to all the Romane Catholiques of England. Written by S.R.N.I. Reynolds, John, fl. 1621-1650. 1624 (1624) STC 20946.4; ESTC S122495 52,043 108

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of Iustice and Nature to enforce him to illigitimate Don Anthony the Prior of Cra●o who was the first and neerest heire vnto that Crowne and Kingdome thereby to exclude him as indeed he did or if he had not an itching and longing desire to swallow and devoure that Kingdome of Portingall which all Christendome and Rome her selfe knew was still more Catholique then Spaine yea and then when he had ingaged his royall word to the rest of the Pretendants as the aforesaid Don Anthony the Dukes of Savoy and Parma Katherine of Maedicis Queene mother of France and Katherine Dutchesse of Braganca that he with them would stand to the sentence of the Chamber of Lisbone to know to whom the right of the Kingdom most properly and lineally descended That then this King Phill. 2. forgat his conscience to God and his promise to these Princes fearing others right and distrusting his owne brought an Army to the gates of Lisbone ere the Pretendants or Portingals themselues dreamt thereof or had meanes or leasure to defend themselues whereby such was insatiable ambition vsurpation and couetousnes that in a plain and setled peace he devoured this rich noble Kingdome making it not only tributary but a Province to Spaine And was this also Religion or to plant the Catholique faith or rather was it not manifest treachery and apparant vsurpation sith if Don Anthony had not all the world knowes the Dutches of Braganca had more right to this Kingdom then King Phill. P.H. Yea that policy King Phil. learnt of the Emperour Charles 5 his Father who when himselfe and King Francis the first of France contended for the Empire of Germany whiles Francis was bribing of the Electors Charles brought an Army into the field and so enforced them to elect and chuse him Q.M. I must confesse I have ever held the Portingalls to be zealous and good Romane Catholiques but as Navarre lay fit for Biscay and Galicia so Portingall lay exceeding commodious for Andoulosie and so if my husband King Phillip had not seconded his right of descent by the law of his sword perhaps hee might have had a bad neighbour in Portingall which he and his Councell timely fore-seeing they as wisely prevented And howsoeuer although hee hated Don Anthony yet I know hee loved the Dutchesse of Braganca well but when we speake of Crownes and Kingdomes Religion will make this surprise of Portingall a matter of State though to speake truth State can never make it a matter of Religion Q.A. How well King Phillip loved the Dutchesse of Bragāca I know not but this I am sure of that both Monsieur de Boyses Monsieur de Bisseaux and Monsieur de Marais Ambassadours with King Iames my Husband for the two last French Kings Henry 4. and Lewes 13. tolde me that Phillips hatred and rage was so great against Don Anthony that he begged his body which lyes in a Coffin of Lead in the Cordeliers Church at Paris to be delivered his Ambassadours and so sent him into Spaine but as they said these two most Christian Kings their Masters answered Phillip that there was little Religion lesse charity to take vp and remooue the ashes of a dead Prince and King as was Don Anthony and so his body still remaines in Paris P.H. If Spaine were so malicious to a dead Prince how ought those that are living to beware and take heed of him H. 8. As a guilty conscience can never finde rest so it may be that King Philip was afraid of a second Don Anthony as of a second Sebastian P.H. But King Philip 3. his sonne hath farre more reason to feare Don Anthonie his two Princely Sons Don Emanuell and Don Christopher and of Don Emanuell his two generous and Illustrious Sonnes Don Maurice and Don Lewes all foure living who are famous and royall reserued Peeces of Shipwrack of that royall Kingdome and blood of Portingall Q.M. O but they are poore and want friends and meanes to advance their iust title to that Crowne if they have any E. 6. Their right and title to Portingall is iust and therefore cannot and should not dye Q. E. If the French forces had met mine at the Groyne Penecha or Lisbone or had the Portingalls risen my Norris Drake and noble Essex in despight of Philip and his forces had pluck'd the Crowne of Portingall from his head and seated it on King Anthonies P.H. No no. Don Anthonies Sonnes are beloved of the Nobilitie of England France and the Netherlands and Don Emanuels wife is Sister to that valiant and incomparable Captain Maurice of Nassaw Prince of Orange So if fortune smile and a favourable gale blowe these disinherited Portingall Princes may one day prove prickes and thornes to the sides of Spaine For all Portingall knowes that their veines and hearts streame with pure Portingall blood yea with the remainder of the royall blood of that Kingdom which Philip 3. his last entertainement together with the Prince his Sonne at Lisbone had almost found true but that his Maiestie departed with as much feare secresie and shame as he came with resolution popularity and glory In the intetrim these Portingal Princes remaine prodigious and ominous Comments to Spaine Q. M. Did Spaine think so it would quickly make the Princes ride Poast into another world Q.E. If Spaine should send these Princes poast into another world either by the backe doore of poyson by the wicket of poynard and not by the great and fore-doore of Nature it would draw the fists of most Christian Princes about King Philips eares and make all Portingall solemnize their Funeralls with their swords drawne and their Cities gates shut E. 6. Indeede I have heard that the Commons and especially the Nobility of Portingall begin extreamly to distaste the imperious pride and ambitious cariage of the Spaniards and many of them let not to say boldly and publiquely that Philip enjoyes the Kingdome by vsurpation and not by right Q. M. Not by right Why Pope Gregory 14. approued his Title and confirmed his Conquest of the Kingdome of Portingall Q.E. So did not our Sauiour Christ whose Successour and Vicar the Pope pretends himselfe to be P. H. In the meane time Spaine domineeres at her Conquest of Portingall and well she may for it is one of the fairest flowers of his Garland and of the richest Diamonds of his crowne H. 8. But the other Kings of Chistendome haue iust cause and reason to grieue and storme hereat for as it was Portingalls mischance then to fall and vaile Bonnet to Spaine so it may be theirs to morrow for to a Prince and people so greedy and ambitious of Empire as is Spaine all fish is good that comes to his hooke or net P.H. Thus Spaine devoures Kingdomes as the Cyclope Polephemus did passengers for he surprizeth no more then he meetes withall and yet will not Christendome beware of Spaine Italy H. 8. WE have past from Navarre the West Indies and Portugall now let vs
Instrument and executioner to cut off the two noble heads of Biron in Paris and D' Albigny in Turin Q.M. Why the Catholique King is the vniversall King and therefore it is not strange if in all Countries of the world hee haue his farre fetch'd policies Agents and Instruments to make his stratagems and resolutions take effect for those who are obstacles to his will and pleasure his verball friendship shall alwayes prove their reall overthrow and subversion howsoeuer he and his Ministers pretend and make shew of the contrary Q.A. Nay let vs leaue Biron and D'Albigny in their Graves for mee thinkes it is a poore charity to rake vp the ashes of the dead And for our better information let vs take a survey of the courtesie or rather of the cruelty that Spaine hath offered Savoy E. 6. None knowes nor can deliuer the particular truth thereof so well as your Royall Sonne Prince Henry Q.M. But I feare my Nephew will be too partiall in the delivery hereof betweene the King of Spaine and the Duke of Savoy because I haue heard that of the two Princesses their daughters he preferd that of Savoy before this of Spaine H. 8. No no my Nephew Henry is a iudicious and iust Prince therefore I know hee will not wrong Spaine to doe right to Savoy Q. A He resembles King Iames his Father to well whoe will still loue the King of Spaine although therein he hate him selfe therefore speake on fayre Sonne P. H When Great Henry of France my honoured Vncle made warres vpon the present Duke of Sauoy for the recouery of his Marquisat of Saluses then this Phillip King of Spaine vnder the pretence and shewe to ayd the Duke his brother in Lawe against the French sent him many troopes and Regiments of Spanyards for the preseruation of his State when the peace being made betwixt the King and the Duke and the exchange for Saluses with the Countreyes of Bresse and Gex ratified and acomplished These Spanish Regiments being quartered in Carbonieres Mountemellion Savillan Pignoroll and other places of Sauoy Piedmont they vpon no reqvest or assommons made them by the Duke would depart thence but being commaunded the Contrary by the Count de Fuentes Viceroy of Millan as he was from the King his Master from Spaine they peremptorily resolued and vowed to keepe firme footing which they along time did vntill at last that wise Valiant Duke being thereunto constrained for the securitie of his estate whose emmynent and vtter subuersion he apparantly sawe before his eyes he very nobly cutt all their throates H. 8. Beleeue me his Highnesse of Sauoy did well for it was an act most worthy of his iudgement and generositie Q M. But the King of Spaine the Dukes of Lerma Pastrama Denia Albecurque Tolleao and all the Counsell of warre of Spaine vowe to haue their reuenge of this affront Q. E. Spaine hath done his woorst to Sauoy alreadie for as long as France loues Sauoy Sauoy needs not feare Spaine at least mine Authors tell me soe who are that famous Captaine the Duke of Dedis guieres his valiant son De Crequy noble Du Termes Q. A. Though this one wronge be one too many yet is these all the wronges that this King of Spaine hath offered this Duke of Sauoy P. H. Noe Madame for although the Duke winke and seemes with father Aubigny to haue the art of forgettfullness yet he well remembers how Don Iuan de Taxis Spaines Ambassadour in France told Lullins Arconas and Alimes his Highnesse Ambassadours at Lyons that the Kinge his master would Contribute towards the Exchange of the marquisat of Saluces conditionally it remayned on that side the Alpes from the French and since how his Catholique Maiestie hath performed nothing He remembers Spaines Plott vpon his Castle of Nice the key not only of his Countryes but of Italy when his Spanish Galleyes lay at Villa franca to bereaue him of his Children He remembers how the Spanish Cardynalls oppose his precedency at Rome with the Duke of Florence and how the Catholike King or his Viceroy of Millan for him was the match and Incendiary to set fire twixt the Duke of Mātoua him for the Marquisate of Montferrad Q. E. Wee may see what a kind brother in Lawe the King of Spaine is and what it is to build vpon his affiance afinity promises and asistance P. H. I am glad the Duke of Savoy and the Princes his children haue now purchased the length of Spaines foote E. 6. They haue reason to haue it for they were all enforced to take it with their swordes Pikes and Lances at Cassall● Verceile and other wheres Q. A. As longe as Savoy loues not Spaine The Marquis of Lullius and Monseur De Gabaleon told me it needes not feare it Q. M. O but as long as Spaine Knockes at the gates of Sauoy and Piedmond he may at last enter Q. E. Sauoy hath reason to enter Millan not Spaine Sauoy Q. M. But tyme and the policie and Swords of Spaine cut all donations and rightes in peeces P. H. Savoy hath had warninges enough to beware of Spaine and therefore as I euer loued that generous Duke soe I hope that he and the Illustryous valliant Princes his Sonnes will neuer want armes of steele and heartes of Diamonds to our braue Spaine who with such ambition and malice seekes to out braue it France H. 8. But what sayes France of Spaine Q. M. My honoured father all the world knowes that Spaine hath euer loued France well Q. E. Yea too too well and so well as France will neuer loue Spaine much lesse trust it in requitall Q M. Why hath not Spaine reason to ballance and counterpoise the power and greatnesse of France P. H. Yea but not to seeke to make that famous flourishing Kingdome become a Prouince to Spaine Q. M. Spayne neuer wish't it much lesse attempted it Q. E. Yeares more often then France hath Prouinces or Spayne Cittyes P. H. Why who was the Avthor and Protector of the League but first Spaine then the Pope and next the Devill Q. M. O that was onely to preserue Catholiques and the Catholique Religion and to exterminate and roote out Heretiques and was not this well done of the King of Spaine sith he is the Catholique King E. 6. Nay now the least child in France knowes that Religion was onely the pretext but Empire and Dominion the obiect of that League How else dared Mendoza Spaines Ambassadour in Paris seeke the Crowne of France for the Infanta of Spaine or how els dared the Iesuites his ministers in their seditious Sermons and pernicious Pamphlets aduance her right to the Crowne and Kingdome when God and the world knowes shee had none to it Q. M. Why it was when God had caused that good Fryer Iames Clement to kill that bad King Henry the third at Saint Clou and when indeede that Kingdome was without a head and then the King of Spaine had reason to
aduance his Daughters Title to France in right of her mother Elizabeth that Queene of Peace notwithstanding the fundamentall power of the Salique Law to the contrary H. 8. You are deceiued daughter for it was a good King and a bade Fryer or rather a Diuell in a Fryers weede to set handes on the Lords anoynted but this arrow came out of the quiuer of Spaine and Hell for that bloudie and execrable murther was no sooner perpetrated but then Instantly followed the proposition of the Infantaes Title to France which apparantly makes the murther to be Spaynes Q.M. It was the Dukes of Mayene Mercuaeur who drewe the King of Spayne to assist the League and in it France Q. E. No No Contrariewise it was the Kinge of Spayne that debouchd and drewe these two Dukes and with them almost all the Nobilitie to forge and contriue this League and in it to ruine France for already France was almost Spayne and the Infanta had vndoubtedly borne the Crowne If Great Henry his Victorious sword had not pulld off Spaynes maske and so cutt her Title and its pretences in pieces Q. M. But see the equitie and Iustice of King Phillipe for when Henry that Heretique King came to the Crowne he restored him Calais Dourlans Valencienes Blauet and all other townes and Castles which he had formerly wonne and Conquered in France P. H. But all this was not worthy thankes for Phillipe alone restored that which hee could not nor dared not to Keepe Q. M. Nay obserue farther how religious King Phillip was in imitation of King Agesilaus for hee kept his Fayth inuiolable towards Henry IIII although he were an heretique King P. H. Nay obserue how irreligiously and treacherous Kinge Phillip was to King Henry 4. in imitation of Artaxerxes the son of Xerxes for hee violated his fayth and Friendship towards him in debaushing of Biron Mirargues Loste whose promises and gold made them Traytors to their King and Country E. 6. Surelie I thinke it is incydent and I feare it will proue hereditary to the Kings of Spayne to conquer more by treachery then by the sword Q. E. But had Great Henry liued he would haue requited these courses of Spayne as also that of Guignard and Chastell who although the report runne otherwise had their greatest light and encouragement from beyond the Pyreene mountaines for to speake truth hee in heart could neuer be drawen to loue Spayne P. H. Yea that Spayne knew full well for when the French Iesuites his Ministers had vnlocked the mistery they like bloody Schoole-masters soe diuelishlie instructed and fortified that monster of men Rauilliack their execrable and damnable desciple that hee soone sent him hither in a bloody Coffin Q.M. But you will not say that the King of Spayne was accessary to Henry 4. his murther P. H. No but I will say that if the truth were knowne the opening of that veine would make many great Birds yea and many learned ones too bleede themselues to death and peraduenture the wounds and scarres thereof would bleede an hundred yeares hence Q. A. The Marshall of Lauerdin whistered mee a word concerning this which I shall neuer forget onely hee requested my secrecie therein so the King of Spaines Larma and the Queene Mother of France her D' Anchre his Mariana and her Cotton shall giue me leaue to thinke Q. M. Questionlesse it were the sinnes of that King and the finger of Heauen that cut off the threed of his life Q. E. Questionlesse you are deceiued Sister for it were the sinnes of France who made the Knife and the treasons of Spaine and Rome which made that Parricide Rauilliack performe H. 8. Well in despight of Rome Spaine and Hell that victorious and glorious King is wasted hither in triumph therefore leaue wee him with God and God with him and let vs see since his deplorable death how kinde K. Philip of Spayne hath beene to King Lewes his Sonne Q. M. So kinde that hee hath matched King Lewis to his eldest Daughter the Ifanta Anna and his eldest Sonne Prince Phil. to the Eldest Princesse of France Madame Elizabeth that now these two mighty Kingdomes and Houses seeme to bee but one Q. E. This is faire to the eye of the world but it will bee excellent if the End of these matches proue fortunate for France H. 8. Who were the Match-makers P. H. S. P. Q. S. or to bee better vnderstood Spaine Pope and Queene Regent Q.E. If King Philip of Spaine be Heyre as well to his Fathers Ambition as to his Kingdomes hee will loue France so well as to push and fish for it P. H. What force could never effect hee hopes those Marriages now will E. 6. Indeede the Snake lurkes vnder the fairest greene leaues and the Aspik vnder the purest and sweetest Roses Q. E. No Kings of the world know better how to dissemble then the Catholique Kings P. H. You speake Scripture not tradition Q.M. And you Tradition not Scripture H. 8. But what intertainment had the Infanta of Spaine in France P. H Noble Royall Glorious E. 6. What traine of Spaniards brought shee with her into France P. H. A very great traine for Monsieur de Marais the French Embassadour with the King my Father told mee that Monsieur de Bonelle Master of the Ceremonies to the French King reported that when the first of them were entring Paris at St. Iaques Gate that the last were but comming downe the Pyrene Mountaines Q. A. But what did all this rabble of Spaniards doe in France P. H. To speake truth they fell presently to skrewing and working themselues into the State by begging and buying of Offices Places Pensions and gouernments both in Church and Common-weale and by making Pensioners for Spaine and consequently a bridge and passage for the King their Master to enter H. 8. But how did the Parliaments the Privie Councell and the Nobilitie of France brooke and digest this Q E. Yea that is a question of State indeed P. H. As for the Parliaments and Privie Councell many of them are so Iesuitiz'd as they are Spaniards in heart though French in tongue and therefore they were so farre from preuenting as they gaue way to it onely for the Princes and Nobilitie some few excepted they resembling themselues vowed and swore that their swords should cut the Pens and Tongues in pieces of any Spaniard whatsoever that dar'd propose or attempt it for they spake aloud and affirm'd the Florentines had taught them wit E. 6. A braue resolution of the French Nobilitie for the greatest of a State haue alwayes the greatest interest in the State those Princes and Nobles are therefore highly to be applauded and praised and such of the Privie Councell and Parliament who tacitely are delinquents and traytors to their Prince and Countrey deserue to bee found out arraigned and sacrificed to the good of the Common-weale either with a sword or a halter Q. M. But what said the Clergie of France to
this Q. E. Sister it is to be fear'd as you wish desire P. H. Why they out of passionate zeale more then of zealous and sollid iudgement approue of any Match for their King so it be not with a Protestant and yet of none so well as of this with Spaine Demand their reason and they will answer you with as much vehemency as ignorance that the King of Spaine is the Catholique King and if you come further to particularize they reply that their Cardinalls who indeede are onely the Popes Creatures shall deliver more at the estates Generall So the Clergie bad the Spaniards well-come into France Q. E. But where are the Fire-brands and Incendiaries of the State the French Iesuites who indeed are the Fistulaes and Botches of a State what entertainment gaue they to the young Queene and her Spaniards P. H. Surely Aunt they crouched very low to the Queene but in Cottons absence Arnoux and Berrulla their Tongue and Eare whispered so secretly to her Maiestie that I could neither gather nor vnderstand what they said but I guest at it onely they gaue faire words and actions to all the Spaniards in generall and to the nobler and wiser sort of them in particular they ingaged themselues to keepe curious correspondence with the Catholique King to whom they affirmed and swore by their Semi-God and sole Patron Ignatius Loyolla they would beare true observance as the Marigold doth to the Sunne Q. A. Are not these two Iesuites the French Kings ordinary Preachers and yet dare they doe it Q. E. Although Berrulla be the Father of the Oratory yet he is in heart and soule a Iesuite and Arnoux is the Arch-Iesuite of France and the Kings Confessor and yet they dare and will doe it H. 8. But how did the Queene Regent enterteyne the Spaniards P. H. Courteously and Nobly because shee made the Match which since shee hath repented tho yea and the Duke of Mayene too who concluded finished it And so did Villeroy likewise although it were to late But Sillery and Du Vair loue Spaine so well as their courages are so masculine that though they see their errours in perswading these Matches yet they rather persist then acknowledge it for like good cleere-sighted States-men they haue witte enough to beare vpp with the time for otherwise they know the times will not beare them vp Q. M. But how did the Commons of France entertaine the Spaniards Q. E. Truely I thinke they will never be perswaded to like the fashion of the little Hatte and great set Ruffe Q. A. Son Henry pray answere Queene Mary P. H. If we may iudge of Hercules by his foote so we then may of France by those of Paris which is the eye the heart the soule thereof where the Citizens in all streetes and especially the Lakeyes at the Lovrre gate and the new bridge still salute the Spaniards as they passe by by these courteous Epithites Boracho Pantalones and Bouriques H. 8. How long remained all these Spaniards in France Q. M. So long I warrant you vntill they did all their Kings businesse and their owne too before they departed P. H. In truth so long till all France was weary and distasted of them and their proceedings yea so many yeares that at last the King and Councell were in a manner constrained to send them away by an Edict as they themselues not many yeares since did the Moores Q. M. The banishing of the Moores was a good and wholesome counsell of Spaine Q. E. And I assure you Sister the sending home of the Spaniards was an excellent one of France for vpon the matter they were but spyes moaths and drones and would haue proved so to France if they had continued there longer E. 6. But were they all sent home and none left at the Court of France to giue and receiue packets to and fro for the Iesuits the King of Spaines Factors and Agents Q. E. O no assure your selfe for the Councell of Spaine is too wise to commit so grosse and palpable an errour of State P. H. Therefore to cast the thicker mist and to put the better varnish on the businesse The Countesse De la Tour was left there with the title of gouernesse to the young Queene and there is as much correspondencie betwixt her and Don Ferdinand de Geron the Ambassador of Spaine as there is betwixt him and the French Iesuites Q. A. Thus Spayne leaues alwaies a Sting behind him and I feare France will in the end find it so Q. M. Whereon is your suspition and feare grounded Q. A. Vpon the apparant symptomes of the Lethargie Feuer or Consumption of France E. 6. You say right Madam and the Noblest and truest hearted French-men participate of your apprehension For the Iesuites beeing the Popes Factors and the King of Spaynes Oracles and Agents haue already corrupted the Parliaments and Priuie Councell who should bee her Illium Acrocorynth They haue vndermyned and ruinated the Sorbone heeretofore her Palladium once the Queene of Vniuersities Who now as a mournefull Widdow sits with her hayre dandling about her eares and her teares trickling downe her cheekes liuing onely in her shaddow or Ghost or rather in her ruines for her Genius and Soule hath alreadie made a transmigration to Clermont-House Yea and to speake true French in our English tongue they by their diuelish Aphorismes and bloodie positions vnder a false hypocriticall shew of Learning and Pietie doe poyson and corrupt the Youth and prime Witts of France as the Iewes did the Springs and Fountaines in England Q. E. Also the Clergie of France degenerates from its Pristine candor and zeale to the good of France and the glory of the French Church for they receiue Lawes from the Popes Nuncio and the Iesuites to whome they should giue them How else at the last generall Estates of Paris and the assemblie of Notables at Rouen were they so vnwise dishonest and cowardly to referre themselues to the two Cardinalls Perron and Gondye who like good Cardinalls but bad French-men having onely their Bodies in France but their Hearts at Rome in thankfulnes to the Pope for their red Hatts forgat themselues and their allegiance so much as to prostitute and debase that famous Crowne and flourishing Kingdome of France to be dependant to Rome in Temporall matters notwithstanding the Pragmatick Sanction and the prerogatiues of the Crowne Church of France to the contrary whereat the Popes Nuncio at Paris laught with open mouth So did the Colledge of Cardinalls and the Pope himselfe at Rome and likewise the Catholike King in Spaine with all that huge rabble of Iesuites whiles all the Kings Soveraigne Princes and Free Estates of Europe Spaine and Italie excepted grieued and lamented at it with as much shame as wonder E. 6. Indeed these are two maine points reasons that the greatnesse and generosity of France declynes and that Rome and Spaine will shortly shuffle the Cards so well as it must
and lowe Germany And if Spain thinke so Contareno the Venetian Ambassadour resident with the King my Husband and since him Donato likewise tolde me that herein Spaine is deceived in the Arithmetick of his ambition and vsurpation and thus to reckon is to reckon without his Hostesse and without God Swisserland H. 8. BVt how do the warlike Cantons of Swissers trust the King of Spaine Q. A. As they doe the Emperour Ferdinand his brother Leopaldus and the rest of the Austrian Princes for they know his ambition and their malice and so neither feare him nor love these Q. M. But they love the double Pistols of Spaine doe they not Q.E. Yes but they say the French Crownes of the Sunne are farre purer and truer gold and therefore passe currenter with them E. 6. The Austrian Princes and the Swissers I haue still heard are from Father to Sonne hereditary and irreconcilable Enemies P. H. Yea the Swissers draw good vse and benefit hereof for by this meanes they live not in security as some other States doe but are still armed and ready to march and follow their Colours Q.E. But there is no Warre would be so acceptable and pleasing to them as vp to Millane or downe to the free County Brabant and Heynault if France Savoy and Venice would command them the first and England France and Holland ordaine and give way to the second Q. A. What is not past is yet to come Q.M. Yea but the Councell of Spaine hath policy enough to insinuate and temporize with all these Princes and States and so to divert their Designes and frustrate their resolutions if they were bent that way P.H. It hath indeede hitherto proved so by Spaine for their policy and treachery hath purchased and gotten them more Countries then either their valour or swords Q. M. These easie Conquests are still sweet and pleasing to Spaine P. H. Yea but they are neither honest nor just E. 6. But hath not Spaine cavill'd with the Swissers for their confines and limmits Q.E. Yes two wayes next Germany by Leopaldus and betwixt Losanna and Gray in the free County by the Archduke Albertus Q. M. Yea yea the King of Spaine will angle so long till he take Q.E. But hath not Spaine attempted by his Ambassadours and Agents to sowe discention and discord amongst these Helvetian Cantons to oppose them one against the other and so to debauch and withdraw them first from the French Kings seruice and then to his owne P. H. Yes many times but that tricke of Spaine is now growne olde and thrid-bare so as the Swissers vowe to remedy the first and the French Kings to prevent the second Q.M. But the Catholique King will watch those Swissers a good turne and if the Ephinaerides of his envie ambition and greatnesse faile him not either his Spinola or his Pedro de Toledo shall one of these dayes dine with him at Berne Eriburg or Soleurre ere their table-cloathes be layed Q. E. But Sister you are deceived in the Swissers for their Table cloathes are alwayes nayled to their Tables yea they haue so great a quantity of Swords Pikes and Muskets in a readinesse to give any enemy of theirs a bloudy banquet that if Philip King of Spaine dare assault them they doubt not but to vse him as they haue formerly done Philip Duke of Burgundy whom they ouerthrew in three severall pitchd battels at Granson Morat and Nancy where he losed his treasure his men and his life The Grisons H. 8. BVt how stand the Grisons affected to Spaine E. 6. Spaine through the vicinity of Millane doth so often knocke at their doores that if they keepe them not fast shut they know or at least feare that hee will shortly enter by the Voltaline and Chiavena Q.M. O though of late they made a shew of resistance yet the gold of Spaine the neighbourhood of Millane the Fort Fuentes but chiefly their owne credulity and security hath almost brought them to the King of Spaines lure Q.E. This people were both warlike and wise P.H. But Spaine will briefly make them fooles and cowards if they will hearken to him Q M. As how Nephew pray be not bitter against Spaine P. H. Why first Spaine will nussell them vp in peace and security till matters be ripe or else he will engender factions and sowe discords among themselues either for Religion or ranke or betwixt them and their dearest friends the Swissers and so when he sees all things ready and the Iron hot then hee will march and strike and not faile to vnite and annex the Cantons of the Grisons to Millane as he hath already done Millane to Spaine H. 8. If the Grisons at any time lose the Swissers friendship or their owne vigilancy and generosity it will not be long ere they shake hands with their liberty and lives Q.M. So Spaine hopes for if warre cannot worke and effect it they make no doubt but peace shall Q.E. If the Grisons hearken to the Charmes of Spaine they are halfe lost Q.M. If they hearken not to Spaine they are wholly vndone but if they listen to Spaine all will be well H. 8. Yea Daughter I beleeue for the Spaniards but not for the Grisons Q. E. To trust to Spaine is to rely on a broken staffe and to harbour a Serpent in our own bosomes P.H. To trust to the promises of Spaine is to commit our selues to the mercy and protection of a Lyon who will devoure vs. Q.M. The Grisons will see and say the contrary E. 6. So will I say if I see the contrary till when I feare the Grisons will buy their peace as well with teares as blood Savoy H. 8. BVt how doth Savoy brooke Spaine for I take it this present Duke Charles Emanuell married this King Philip 3. his second Sister the Infanta Katherina Michaela P.H. Savoy loves Spaine as it hath deserved of it for the noble and generous Duke thereof cries out God defend mee from such a brother in law as King Philip. Q.M. I beleeve if the Catholique King offered that Duke any vnkinde office it was nothing but because hee was so neere a neighbour to Geneva as hee and the Pope suspected his Highnesse would turne Caluinist Q. E. Alas that good Citie of Geneva why all the world knowes the Dukes loue to it and its Religion witnesse the Barron of Attignac and his Consorts as also Terraill and Bastide but if there were once a Spanish Garison in this Citie Savoy would soone know how to distinguish betwixt good and bad neighbours E. 6. But it is the laughture of the world to say that Spaine hates Savoy because he loves the Religion of Geneva P. H. Yet this is as true as many other of Spaines colours pretexts and evasions when hee hath a purpose and plot to vsurpe Q.M. Why wherein hath the King of Spaine abused or wronged the Duke of Savoy P.H. First in being himselfe the chiefe cause and subiect and then making him the