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A67103 Truth will out, or, A discovery of some untruths smoothly, told by Dr. Ieremy Taylor in his Disswasive from popery with an answer to such arguments as deserve answer / by his friendly adversary E. Worsley. E. W. (Edward Worsley), 1605-1676. 1665 (1665) Wing W3618; ESTC R39189 128,350 226

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this Section concerning the emptying of Purgatory Certainly the Millions of Indulgences and innumerable other helps in the Church should ere this have a hundred times over evacuated that place of its sad Inhabitants I answer this Objection is like the rest feeble and forceless and would the Doctor ponder well these words of the Royal Prophet Psal 100. Misericordiam judicium cantabo tibi Domine He would see the weakness of it God is Merciful but withal just His Mercy impowers the Church to free many But that prodigal use of the Keys in freeing all would be against Justice and would make sinners little to value or fear those torments which St. Austin says Surpass all the pains in this World CHAP. XIV A word more of Indulgences Of the Doctors Mistakes in quoting Authors Whether the Prayer of a sinner avails him Of the Doctors harsh Doctrine THe Doctor after his High heap of dangers and great number of little doubts pag. 97. tells us that there is one thing necessary viz. To work out our Salvation with fear and trembling Answ First a poor penitent that apprehends most deeply the pain of Purgatory and doth so much Penance as we see daily done among good Christians for the releasment of that pain cannot be supposed in any Christians Charity to be without fear and trembling 2. We might if it were worth the while move as many doubts concerning this fear and trembling as he doth against Indulgences We might ask him to work out our Salvation how often must we fear How often must we tremble From what motive-must this fear proceed How strong and intens must this trembling be when all is done How know we that we have trembled enough and whether we are not to tremble till we all turn Quakers Let the Doctor resolve these doubts upon good certainty and I 'll warrant you his scruples about Indulgences will cease What he adds of Venial sins hindring the fruit of Indulgences is not worth taking notice of But Saith he pag. 99. Pope Adrian taught a worse matter viz. He that will obtain an Indulgence for another c. And where find we this worse matter Mark I beseech you his Marginal Quotation Apud Petrum de Soto lect de institut Sacerd. de necessariis ad effectum Indulg Truly our Doctor all along hath been unfortunate in his citations and here he shews himself so very unskilful that I believe he never saw Soto Know then that Petrus de Soto besides other works hath a book in a large Decimo sexto which he Intitles Tractatus de institutione sacerdotum with me it is printed at Brixia anno 1586. under that Title in general he handles many Questions De scientia sacerdotum de Baptismo and other Sacraments c. Every Treatise he devides into Lectiones And after the middle of the Book hath a Title de Indulgentiis pag. 263. This Treatise he divides into three Lectiones Now the Doctor gives you not the Right Lectio of that Treatise which is the third in number but unskilfully directs you to his Lectio de Institutione sacerdotum There is no general Lectio but Tractatus de institutione sacerdotum the Lections are subdivisions to several Treatises Well though without much help from the Doctor we have found the place in Soto Lectio 3. now cited page with me 275. his words are Notat Hadrianus circahoc movet quaestionem c. Adrian who by the way speaks not as Pope but as a Divine or private Doctor proposeth this Question whether one in mortal sin can avail to obtain an Indulgence for another as if an Indulgence for Example be granted to him who gives an Alms or to him for whom it is given by another Adrian holds the Affirmative So that he who doth the work and wisheth the Indulgence to another doth an action Morally good Nam pro peccato non conceditur Indulgentia For an Indulgence is never granted for a sinful work This I say was Adrians private Opinion not so harshly related by Soto as it is by our Doctor who talks as if it were a definition of a Pope Pope Adrian taught a worse matter I censure not Adrians Opinion he was a great Divine nor approve it yet this I 'll say that the Doctor doth not so much as probably impugn it Mark how weakly he argues As if saith he a man could do more for another then he can do for himself Answ Most certainly he may Cannot one uncapable of a dignity or a favour in a Common-wealth beg of his Prince a Grace for another who is capable A meer secular man unlearned and Married may petition his Majesty and perhaps prevail that Doctor Taylor be the next Bishop of Canterbury who they say lives ever unmarried Here is our very Case This secular man is uncapable of such a Grace So a sinner is of an Indulgence This secular man prevails to get the Grace for another who is capable so a sinner may prevail to obtain an Indulgence for another just man capable of the favour The parity holds exactly Therefore it is evident that one may do more for another then he can for himself in some cases The Doctor goes on and speaks not like a Christian As if saith he God would regard the Prayers of a wicked person when he intercedes for another and at the same time if he Prays for himself his Prayer is an abomination Answ This last is certainly impious Doctrine for the consequence of it must needs be this That no sinner ought in conscience ever to Pray for himself I 'll prove what I say thus No sinner can in conscience commit an abomination in the sight of God or sin mortally But to pray for himself is an abomination and a mortal sin therefore no sinner can in conscience pray for himself Consequently that poor Publican 9 Ioan that prayed for himself Deus propitius mihi esto peccatori God be merciful to me a sinner Was an abominable man upon the account of his Prayer which place of Scripture no less a Doctor then St. Austin made use of to prove that a sinner may pray for himself Were the Doctor a Divine I could tell him that prayer in a wicked man may be a supernatural Act and proceed from Gods Grace not sanctifying Grace as Faith is supernatural which preceeds justification in a sinner What he adds of a work done ungratiously is a wrong to Adrian who requires Opus Moraliter bonum A work morally good though not meritorious Finally the Doctor saith that because Divines require the state of Grace necessary in a man at that time he gains an Indulgence though before a sinner they turn Divinity into Mathematicks and Clock-work A conceit not worthy a Doctor say I beseech you if this good man ascends a Pulpit and a larems his hearers thus Good people you have hitherto profited little by my Sermons Hodie si vocem ejus audieritis To day this very moment this minute