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A65682 The second part of The ignoramus justices, or, An answer to the scandalous speech of Sir W.S. Barronet spoken to the grand-jury at the Sessions of Peace held for the county of Middlesex, at Hick's-hall, on Monday the 24 of April, 1682 : together with several remarks upon the order of Sessions, for the printing and publishing the same / by the same authour.; Ignoramus justices. Part 2 Whitaker, Edward.; England and Wales. Court of Quarter Sessions of the Peace (Middlesex) 1682 (1682) Wing W1705; ESTC R2042 37,153 39

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a promise not to be angry with her told him Sir you have a wart upon your Nose I saith he so I have and I have another upon my Ar put that to that Sir as you did yesterday But now I the hope Courteous Reader will pardon this slip though I leave Sir W. at his pleasure In page 2d Sir W. tells the Jury that the Conventiclers had abused and reviled those officers and others who in obedience to their Commands have endeavoured to put the Laws in Execution if the Dissenters have done so they are highly to blame but if neither himself nor all his fellow Justices can shew wherein they have so abused or reviled them for doing their duty sure then the Dissenters have great cause to say Sir W. is not sure any of them hath so done because he neither names the person that did the fact nor wherein the abuse was done some of the Standers by I am told was of opinion Sir W's meaning was the Constables and the Pamphlets called Order of Sessions was what he meant or the Answer to them now if his worship would be pleased but to explain himself both as to the persons and things he speaks of he would highly add to his former merits otherwise we are like to be in the dark still notwithstanding his state of convallency But Sir William goes on page 2. the question he askes is he would know of any sober thinking man which of the two parties his prudence would invite him too whether those under his Majesties and the Laws Protection or to that party which leads through Briars and Thornes which I suppose he meanes to be the Dissenters if so then I must tell him that the Laws do equally Protect both the one and the other and for him to start such a question under his favour is no less then to tell the world that his Majesty will protect one and not the other and since Sir W. is resolved to pun upon the honest plain Country Jury-men that hath not been used to be so accosted by such Rhetorick heretofore it may not be amiss to sift this part of the Speech a little further In this page he tells the Country men of slippery places where they shall never be able to stand their groud but what ground he means is kept secret and therefore we can't guess at the meaning which is suppos'd to be this Gentlemans Grand-Jury men and all that hear me this day I tell you I am a thinking man I think of the times past when I was a Col. and how I behaved my self in Richard's time past when I Addressed to him swimming then with the Tide I was safe I scorned that pittiful thing called concience I alwayes trod upon sure ground and in frosty hard weather tho' the wind blew never so hard yet I always sheltered my self under some penthouse though it was but a thatched Cottage I would never deny my self in any thing but whatever Richard who then Reigned de facto though not de jure did yet I was the same to him as I pretend now to the King and I stood by that means fast and by that meanes I stand fast now and so may you grand Jury-men if you will but think on me you never need fear treading upon Knives or Razors for what ever Card turns up Trump I have a Knave at all times ready both in heart and hand And therefore you thinking Grand Jury men remember me and be sure to take care of self preservation and be obedient to me and present these unthinking people that do not know their own safety But to proceed in this Page 2d here is so much of excellent Variety and depth of Wisdom that is seems wonderful especially if we consider the State matters here in this page set forth and that is he not only tells us of the expence of money his Majesty hath been at as was before hinted and the benefit like to accrew to Trade by the peace with Algier and the Turkey Trade but he seems to understand the whole series of all the State affairs of the King as a great and learned Privy Councellor For he tells you that some had the impudence to report that Tangier was or would be sold to the French King how was it possible the Justice should know that except he were of the Cabinet Councel at home or the French Kings Councel abroad For he doth not say he heard it was reported to be sold or would be sold but that some had the impudence to say so and this must be certainly to himself it was spoken or else he devised it for he cannot produce his Author but that which may cause a further belief of his being a Courtier and in the most deepest State of affairs is his telling us in the same page the very exact quantity of money the thirty Capital Ships will cost more then the Parliament did give which is thus the King was forced to advance 100000 of his own money now it is a very great wonder that this Justice in such a capacity not being a Ship-wright should exactly know these things if he be not either a Privy Councel or one of the Treasury and that which makes it a wonder how he comes to know the exact charge is that yet all the thirty Capital Ships are not built and some of them not so much as begun to this day But I suppose Sir W. did not speak from a Command he had but to shew his zeal to raise the 100000 l. that would be wanting when the Ships were done or rather that he might have one fling at the Parliament for being so absurd as not to compute their Matters right nor give money enough for Sir W. always hath a good wish or a good wrod for the Parliament since he was summon'd before the Committee Well but now in the third page he tells us the whole Charge the King haht disbursed is about 800000 l. which ought to be paid him by the people for whom it was disbursted and that the Establish'd Revenue will not ballance the necessary Charges of the Government and where shall the accidental charge be born I am confident the King never bid him put such a question to the Grand-Jury for this reason because he well knows they nor their whole single County cannot do it if it were lawful for Loans or Ship-money or Privy-Seals to go about the Country again as was done by the wicked enemies of the King and Kingdom heretofore to keep off Parliaments that they that had acted Roguery and Villany in the Intervals in the late King's Time might not be called to account which in all probability is the design of this Justice if he dare speak out and that he can mean no less seems most plain for what should he else tell the Grand-Jury of such things as these which they have no conusance of in the least and for the Justices saying he hath heard in the House