baptism_n be_v of_o great_a latitude_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o that_o all_o that_o do_v bring_v their_o child_n to_o partake_v of_o the_o former_a 〈◊〉_d nâ—t_v therefore_o themselves_o present_o partake_v of_o thâ—_n latter_a but_o that_o many_o may_v have_v their_o child_n baptise_a and_o yet_o regular_o be_v debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n we_o may_v also_o mention_v the_o concurrence_n of_o divine_n with_o we_o in_o particular_a reason_n explication_n and_o assertion_n relate_v to_o â—â—is_n matter_n â—â—_o that_o baptism_n be_v annex_v to_o the_o â—eing_v or_o begin_n of_o faith_n the_o lord_n supper_n to_o the_o special_a exercise_n of_o it_o that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o all_o member_n but_o the_o lord_n supper_n to_o soâ—e_a only_o that_o be_v so_o and_o so_o qualify_v that_o all_o visible_a believer_n who_o in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n and_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n be_v such_o as_o be_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n vrsin_n and_o pareus_n answer_v that_o objection_n against_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o then_o they_o must_v be_v admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v these_o word_n magnum_fw-la discrimen_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o be_v a_o great_a difference_n between_o baptism_n and_o the_o supper_n for_o 1._o baptism_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o entrance_n and_o reception_n into_o the_o church_n but_o 〈◊〉_d supper_n be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o continuance_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d confirmation_n of_o the_o reception_n 〈◊〉_d make_v 2._o regeneration_n by_o 〈…〉_z 372_o and_o not_o to_o they_o present_o but_o after_o that_o they_o have_v hold_v forth_o a_o confession_n of_o faith_n and_o repentance_n 380._o also_o it_o may_v be_v mind_v that_o it_o be_v the_o currant_n and_o constant_a expression_n of_o our_o divine_n that_o they_o call_v and_o count_v all_o that_o be_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n whether_o infant_n or_o adult_n fideles_fw-la vâ—cati_fw-la faithful_a call_v &c._n &c._n and_o they_o will_v tell_v you_o that_o they_o be_v for_o baptise_v no_o infant_n but_o such_o as_o be_v infant_n fidelium_fw-la the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a or_o of_o believer_n infant_n non_fw-la omnes_fw-la sed_fw-la duntaxat_fw-la fidelium_fw-la i._n e._n baptizatorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la chamier_n tom._n 4._o pag._n 130._o so_o daneus_n infant_n ex_fw-la fidelibus_fw-la i._n e._n baptizaâ—â—s_fw-la nati_fw-la possunt_fw-la baptizari_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la lib._n 5._o de_fw-fr sacram._n pag._n 538._o and_o yet_o they_o do_v not_o look_v at_o all_o these_o no_o not_o at_o all_o the_o adult_n that_o come_v under_o this_o denomination_n and_o who_o child_n they_o baptise_v to_o be_v regular_o admittable_a to_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o plain_o show_v their_o judgement_n to_o be_v that_o all_o adult_n person_n who_o be_v in_o a_o latitude_n of_o expression_n to_o be_v account_v visible_a believer_n or_o in_o ecclesiastical_a reputation_n to_o be_v look_v at_o as_o fideles_fw-la be_v not_o therefore_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n dr._n ames_n account_n that_o a_o person_n may_v be_v a_o believer_n on_o christ_n and_o yet_o be_v unfit_a for_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o sufficient_o instruct_v thereunto_o bellar._n eneru._n tom._n 3._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 1._o and_o he_o express_o say_v that_o church-children_n be_v to_o be_v number_v among_o the_o faithful_a and_o reckon_v they_o to_o have_v the_o beginning_n of_o faith_n yet_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o all_o ordinance_n till_o increase_v of_o faith_n appear_v medul_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 32._o thes._n 12_o 13._o mr._n hooker_n take_v it_o for_o grant_v as_o a_o clear_a case_n that_o one_o may_v be_v a_o convert_n sound_o bring_v home_o to_o christ_n and_o yet_o through_o his_o weakness_n not_o able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n aright_o nor_o fit_a to_o partake_v of_o the_o supper_n survey_n part_n 3._o pag._n 16._o and_o in_o his_o sermon_n on_o gen._n 17.23_o pag._n 21._o he_o have_v these_o word_n baptism_n be_v the_o entrance_n into_o christ_n family_n there_o be_v much_o more_o to_o be_v look_v at_o to_o make_v a_o person_n capable_a of_o the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n a_o man_n must_v be_v able_a to_o examine_v himself_o he_o must_v not_o only_o have_v grace_n but_o growth_n of_o grace_n he_o must_v have_v so_o much_o perfection_n in_o grace_n as_o to_o search_v his_o own_o heart_n and_o he_o must_v be_v able_a to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n or_o else_o he_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n so_o as_o there_o be_v more_o require_v in_o this_o for_o there_o must_v be_v a_o growth_n but_o baptism_n be_v our_o entrance_n and_o the_o low_a degree_n of_o grace_n will_v serve_v here_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n worthy_a hildersham_n on_o psal._n 51.5_o pag._n 257._o say_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v say_v to_o be_v holy_a not_o because_o they_o be_v without_o sin_n but_o because_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n they_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v not_o infidel_n as_o other_o child_n of_o pagan_n but_o christian_n and_o believer_n and_o holy_a and_o true_a member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o hence_o 1._o so_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v bear_v they_o have_v title_n to_o the_o seal_n of_o god_n covenant_n and_o the_o church_n may_v not_o deny_v it_o unto_o then_o and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o church_n deny_v baptism_n to_o any_o child_n of_o a_o believe_a parent_n sure_o because_o the_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o esteem_v every_o such_o child_n not_o a_o infidel_n but_o rather_o a_o believer_n and_o a_o true_a christian._n 2._o when_o they_o die_v we_o be_v in_o christian_a charity_n to_o judge_v that_o they_o die_v in_o god_n favour_n and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o salvation_n and_o all_o this_o because_o of_o the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o as_o he_o there_o add_v yet_o the_o same_o hildersham_n will_v not_o admit_v such_o as_o these_o who_o be_v bear_v and_o grow_v up_o in_o the_o visible_a church_n to_o the_o lord_n table_n without_o a_o strict_a examination_n not_o only_o of_o their_o knowledge_n and_o life_n but_o of_o their_o spiritual_a estate_n doct._n of_o lord_n supper_n pag._n 8_o 14._o all_o which_o we_o produce_v not_o as_o if_o the_o testimony_n and_o concurrence_n of_o author_n be_v the_o basis_n that_o our_o judgement_n in_o this_o matter_n stand_v upon_o but_o because_o this_o preface_n do_v both_o in_o this_o place_n and_o in_o other_o part_n of_o it_o insinuate_v to_o the_o reader_n as_o if_o authority_n of_o writer_n be_v for_o the_o dissenter_n and_o against_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n which_o be_v far_o from_o be_v so_o the_o contrary_a be_v abundant_o and_o undeniable_o evident_a and_o as_o we_o bottom_n our_o faith_n in_o this_o point_n whole_o and_o only_o upon_o the_o scripture_n and_o do_v refer_v the_o decision_n of_o this_o and_o of_o all_o other_o theological_a controversy_n to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n so_o we_o acknowledge_v it_o to_o be_v no_o small_a confirmation_n to_o we_o to_o find_v that_o we_o have_v the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o godly-learned_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o congregational-way_n may_v be_v gather_v from_o the_o doctrine_n &_o principle_n of_o our_o best_a and_o able_a reform_v divine_n 43._o which_o do_v not_o a_o little_a confirm_v we_o in_o it_o and_o deliver_v it_o from_o the_o imputation_n of_o novelty_n or_o singularity_n but_o shall_v we_o limit_v baptism_n to_o so_o narrow_a a_o scantling_n as_o our_o brethren_n strive_v for_o we_o shall_v therein_o go_v against_o the_o whole_a stream_n of_o divine_n even_o of_o those_o that_o have_v be_v most_o eminent_a in_o their_o generation_n for_o learning_n holiness_n and_o studiousness_n of_o reformation_n yea_o of_o those_o from_o who_o our_o congregational_a leader_n have_v profess_v to_o receive_v their_o principle_n as_o be_v abovesaid_a and_o we_o confess_v ourselves_o conscious_a to_o so_o much_o of_o our_o own_o weakness_n that_o unless_o we_o have_v very_o clear_a light_n and_o undeniable_a argument_n constrain_a we_o we_o be_v slow_a and_o fearful_a to_o go_v alone_o or_o to_o go_v contrary_a to_o the_o concurrent_a judgement_n of_o our_o best_a divine_n who_o if_o we_o may_v use_v our_o brethren_n phrase_n have_v be_v star_n of_o the_o first_o magnitude_n incomparable_a champion_n for_o the_o truth_n and_o have_v be_v raise_v up_o by_o christ_n to_o light_v the_o path_n of_o reformation_n in_o these_o late_a age_n now_o as_o for_o what_o be_v here_o allege_a by_o our_o brethren_n as_o favour_v their_o cause_n to_o say_v that_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la be_v not_o in_o the_o primitive_a time_n to_o be_v baptize_v before_o they_o be_v fit_a for_o the_o lord_n supper_n consider_v how_o it_o can_v consist_v with_o
the_o above_o mention_v practice_n of_o antiquity_n in_o not_o so_o much_o as_o teach_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o they_o be_v baptize_v indeed_o as_o the_o darkness_n and_o corruption_n of_o the_o time_n increase_v baptism_n be_v not_o only_o defer_v till_o easter_n as_o be_v here_o say_v but_o till_o death_n which_o be_v just_o tax_v as_o a_o abuse_n by_o cartwright_n in_o his_o catechism_n pag._n 182._o and_o we_o suppose_v will_v not_o be_v approve_v by_o any_o the_o arausiacan_a council_n 19_o canon_n do_v not_o concern_v the_o matter_n of_o baptism_n as_o it_o be_v set_v down_o by_o the_o magdeburg_n centurist_n cent._n 5._o pag._n 907._o but_o however_o it_o be_v it_o be_v of_o small_a moment_n the_o overlong_a hold_v off_o of_o adult_n convert_v from_o baptism_n that_o we_o sometime_o read_v of_o in_o the_o four_o and_o five_o century_n be_v a_o manifest_a deviation_n from_o the_o apostolical_a practice_n we_o find_v also_o that_o in_o augustine_n time_n and_o some_o age_n after_o they_o give_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o infant_n yet_o than_o we_o suppose_v they_o will_v give_v both_o sacrament_n to_o some_o infant_n who_o parent_n they_o debar_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o if_o it_o be_v indeed_o a_o grievous_a error_n to_o administer_v the_o lord_n supper_n to_o infant_n as_o be_v here_o right_o say_v by_o our_o brethren_n how_o then_o be_v baptism_n of_o no_o great_a latitude_n as_o to_o the_o subject_a thereof_o than_o the_o lord_n supper_n yea_o let_v any_o man_n show_v a_o reason_n why_o baptism_n shall_v be_v regular_o extendible_a to_o infant_n and_o not_o the_o lord_n supper_n if_o the_o very_o saâ—e_v qualification_n be_v absolute_o requisite_a to_o the_o one_o as_o to_o the_o other_o we_o say_v absolute_o requisite_a for_o no_o man_n doubt_v but_o that_o the_o better_a qualification_n a_o person_n who_o receive_v baptism_n for_o himself_o or_o for_o his_o child_n be_v endue_v 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lie_v in_o the_o holy_a and_o religious_a application_n of_o it_o to_o its_o proper_a end_n and_o use_n by_o divine_a institution_n but_o the_o proper_a end_n and_o use_n of_o one_o ordinance_n may_v by_o divine_a institution_n be_v such_o as_o may_v admit_v more_o to_o partake_v of_o it_o then_o of_o another_o and_o yet_o the_o sacred_a nature_n thereof_o be_v no_o whit_n impair_v cohere_v but_o the_o preface_n add_v indeed_o of_o late_a there_o have_v be_v those_o who_o have_v make_v baptism_n of_o a_o far_o large_a extent_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n this_o have_v be_v one_o practical_a difference_n between_o congregational-man_n and_o presbyterian_o answ._n whether_o it_o have_v be_v only_o a_o late_a or_o novel_a notion_n to_o make_v baptism_n large_a than_o the_o lord_n supper_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n when_o he_o have_v consider_v the_o testimony_n before_o allege_a with_o many_o more_o that_o may_v have_v be_v add_v thereunto_o but_o we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o look_v upon_o a_o different_a latitude_n of_o these_o two_o sacrament_n to_o be_v a_o presbyterian_a principle_n or_o anti-congregational_a as_o that_o we_o persuade_v ourselves_o the_o congregational_a way_n can_v long_o stand_v without_o it_o for_o if_o we_o deny_v this_o and_o administer_v baptism_n to_o none_o but_o those_o who_o parent_n do_v partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o so_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n then_o we_o must_v either_o make_v full_a communion_n very_o large_a which_o in_o the_o congregational-way_n where_o brethren_n have_v so_o great_a a_o interest_n in_o church-transaction_n will_v soon_o ruin_v all_o or_o else_o make_v baptism_n and_o consequent_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n so_o straight_o as_o will_v never_o stand_v before_o rational_a and_o scriptural_a man_n yea_o we_o shall_v put_v multitude_n out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n that_o be_v in_o a_o visible_a state_n of_o salvation_n which_o be_v absurd_a for_o to_o deny_v person_n 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child_n be_v member_n of_o a_o institute_v church_n according_a to_o gospel-rule_n and_o that_o they_o be_v under_o personal_a covenant_n i._n e._n personal_o 〈◊〉_d into_o covenant_n by_o god_n according_a to_o his_o gospel-rule_n though_o they_o have_v not_o perform_v the_o act_n of_o covenant_v in_o their_o own_o person_n yea_o under_o explicit_a covenant_n also_o if_o the_o parent_n covenant_v be_v explicit_a deut._n 29._o so_o ames_n they_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o same_o covenant_n and_o also_o of_o the_o same_o profession_n with_o their_o parent_n though_o we_o take_v it_o for_o a_o principle_n grant_v by_o congregational_a man_n with_o one_o consent_n that_o implicit_a covenant_n preserve_v the_o be_v of_o a_o true_a church_n and_o so_o of_o true_a church-membership_a 2._o the_o consequent_a of_o our_o assertion_n here_o urge_v as_o absurd_a viz._n that_o then_o in_o ease_n all_o the_o pro-parent_n
desert_n of_o church-censure_n which_o be_v manifest_o the_o case_n of_o the_o person_n describe_v in_o the_o synod_n five_o proposition_n and_o then_o all_o the_o discourse_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o objection_n wherein_o not_o a_o little_a confidence_n and_o spirit_n be_v express_v fall_v to_o the_o ground_n as_o not_o reach_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n though_o beside_o there_o be_v sundry_a mistake_n in_o it_o as_o may_v after_o appear_v for_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v grant_v that_o in_o church_n where_o discipline_n be_v not_o in_o use_n and_o in_o a_o case_n notorious_a wherein_o a_o person_n do_v apparent_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n as_o by_o turn_v turk_n or_o the_o like_a a_o man_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o from_o membership_n by_o his_o own_o apostasy_n and_o wickedness_n though_o the_o church_n do_v not_o through_o her_o sinful_a neglect_n formal_o censure_v he_o yet_o this_o on_o the_o other_o hand_n be_v also_o a_o sure_a and_o clear_a truth_n that_o no_o act_n of_o a_o man_n own_o will_n or_o can_v cut_v he_o off_o from_o membership_n but_o that_o which_o deserve_v a_o cut_n off_o by_o censure_n and_o for_o which_o the_o church_n shall_v cut_v he_o off_o by_o censure_n if_o she_o do_v her_o duty_n this_o be_v plain_a because_o when_o a_o man_n be_v once_o in_o the_o church_n he_o can_v be_v out_v till_o god_n out_o he_o god_n do_v not_o out_o he_o till_o some_o rule_n or_o appointment_n of_o he_o in_o his_o word_n do_v out_o he_o but_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n that_o appoint_v any_o man_n to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o make_v as_o a_o heathen_a and_o publican_n but_o for_o and_o upon_o such_o wickedness_n of_o his_o as_o be_v censurable_a by_o the_o church_n and_o in_o that_o case_n the_o rule_n do_v appoint_v and_o enjoin_v the_o church_n to_o censure_v he_o or_o to_o put_v he_o away_o from_o among_o they_o by_o censure_n mat._n 18.17_o 1_o cor._n 5.5_o 13._o when_o some_o divine_n do_v so_o speak_v as_o if_o person_n may_v be_v break_v off_o from_o the_o church_n without_o a_o formal_a censure_n in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n the_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o a_o man_n do_v by_o his_o own_o wickedness_n be_v it_o never_o so_o notorious_a immediate_o so_o become_v felo_fw-la de_fw-la se_fw-la or_o vn-member_n himself_o as_o that_o the_o church_n have_v nothing_o to_o do_v with_o he_o to_o censure_v he_o yes_o she_o may_v and_o aught_o to_o censure_v he_o for_o his_o wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n and_o so_o if_o a_o church-member_n turn_n turk_n or_o papist_n the_o church_n to_o which_o he_o belong_v aught_o to_o lay_v he_o under_o censure_n for_o it_o and_o for_o such_o a_o one_o to_o be_v a_o member_n till_o censure_v i._n e._n a_o rot_a member_n fit_a to_o be_v cut_v off_o be_v no_o contradiction_n nor_o absurdity_n see_v mr._n cotton_v holiness_n of_o church-member_n pag._n 15._o 5.11_o and_o do_v all_o church_n in_o the_o world_n do_v their_o duty_n there_o shall_v no_o man_n live_v that_o ever_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n yet_o in_o be_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o a_o non-member_n but_o he_o that_o be_v so_o censure_v on_o excommunicate_v at_o least_o unless_o some_o extraordinary_a and_o rare_a circumstance_n of_o a_o case_n do_v render_v the_o church_n cognizance_n thereof_o impossible_a but_o the_o meaning_n only_o be_v that_o where_o man_n have_v palpable_o and_o notorious_o lose_v the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o a_o church_n through_o the_o sinful_a want_n or_o neglect_v of_o discipline_n never_o look_v after_o they_o only_o by_o her_o doctrine_n declare_v against_o such_o but_o haply_o continue_v in_o that_o neglect_n from_o age_n to_o age_n there_o the_o notoriousness_n of_o the_o case_n and_o the_o evidence_n of_o the_o rule_n do_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o a_o judicial_a sentence_n and_o the_o church_n doctrinal_a declaration_n may_v be_v look_v at_o as_o a_o implicit_a excommunication_n and_o hence_o other_o church_n may_v just_o carry_v towards_o such_o as_o non-member_n and_o hence_o also_o in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o reformation_n of_o such_o church_n after_o deep_a and_o long-continued_a corruption_n such_o person_n may_v be_v set_v by_o without_o a_o formal_a censure_n but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o child_n of_o our_o church_n who_o be_v admit_v in_o minority_n in_o stead_n of_o notorious_a wickedness_n and_o apostasy_n when_o grow_v up_o do_v in_o some_o measure_n own_o the_o god_n and_o covenant_n of_o their_o father_n and_o be_v neither_o cast_n out_o nor_o deserve_v so_o to_o be_v who_o no_o rule_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n appoint_v to_o be_v put_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o hence_o tâ—ey_n stand_v and_o continue_v regular_a i._n e._n according_a to_o the_o appointment_n and_o allowance_n of_o the_o rule_n member_n of_o it_o be_v neither_o excommunicate_a nor_o by_o rule_n to_o be_v excommunicate_v where_o shall_v we_o find_v either_o scripture_n or_o sound_a reason_n to_o tell_v we_o that_o these_o have_v cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o membership_n or_o be_v nâ—w_o become_v non-member_n but_o to_o come_v to_o a_o plain_a and_o distinct_a close_o in_o this_o matter_n we_o assert_v this_o position_n that_o in_o church_n waâ—â—ing_v in_o the_o order_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o exercise_v discipline_n according_a to_o the_o rule_n thereoâ—_n no_o person_n can_v while_o he_o live_v among_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o by_o excommunication_n or_o without_o a_o church-act_n in_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n the_o sum_n of_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o be_v because_o we_o find_v this_o way_n of_o cessation_n of_o membership_n viz._n by_o excommunication_n plain_o prescribe_v and_o appoint_v by_o the_o lord_n in_o scripture_n and_o we_o find_v not_o any_o other_o while_o the_o church_n and_o the_o person_n continue_v in_o be_v see_v a_o more_o particular_a proof_n of_o it_o in_o the_o preface_n to_o mr._n shepard_n treatise_n of_o church-membership_a of_o child_n late_o publish_a but_o if_o any_o do_v affirm_v there_o be_v another_o way_n it_o lie_v on_o they_o to_o show_v and_o prove_v it_o let_v we_o now_o consider_v whether_o that_o be_v do_v by_o all_o that_o be_v here_o further_o say_v preface_n when_o whitgift_n say_v that_o papist_n and_o atheist_n may_v still_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n mr._n parker_n tell_v he_o that_o even_o a_o veritius_fw-la will_v condemn_v he_o and_o it_o be_v no_o new_a doctrine_n in_o the_o school_n to_o say_v that_o a_o heretical_a apostate_n be_v no_o more_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n than_o a_o wound_n a_o sâ—re_n a_o brand_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o man_n as_o eâ—ery_o one_o know_v that_o be_v mediocritèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholasiiâ—al_a divinity_n therefore_o we_o conclude_v that_o church-member_n may_v become_v no_o member_n by_o their_o own_o defection_n ans._n sure_o he_o that_o be_v but_o mediâ—critèr_fw-la doctus_fw-la in_o scholastical_a or_o chemical_a divinity_n may_v easy_o know_v that_o here_o be_v the_o show_n of_o a_o argument_n or_o of_o authority_n of_o writer_n witâ—_n out_o the_o substance_n of_o either_o for_o when_o our_o divine_n against_o the_o papist_n do_v so_o often_o over_o say_v that_o wicked_a or_o unregenerate_a person_n be_v but_o equivocal_o or_o improper_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o nail_n haâ—r_n sore_n and_o superfluous_a hu_o â—urs_n or_o as_o a_o wooden_a leg._n a_o glass_n eye_n etc._n etc._n be_v member_n of_o the_o live_a body_n of_o a_o man_n they_o mean_v it_o proper_o with_o reference_n to_o the_o invisible_a mystical_a church_n or_o to_o the_o visible_a church_n consider_v in_o its_o internal_a spiritual_a live_a state_n 1113._o not_o with_o reference_n to_o man_n external_a stand_n or_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n nor_o do_v they_o ever_o dream_v that_o man_n be_v by_o the_o want_n of_o internal_a gracious_a qualification_n cut_v off_o from_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o any_o church-censure_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o they_o reckon_v hypocrite_n and_o secret_o unregenerate_a person_n as_o well_o as_o heretical_a apostate_n or_o the_o openly-wicked_n to_o be_v but_o equivocaliy_v of_o the_o church_n viz._n in_o comparison_n and_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o true_a and_o live_a member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n â—nd_v as_o â—aul_v diâ—tinguishes_n between_o israel_n and_o they_o that_o be_v of_o israel_n rom._n 9.6_o and_o say_v he_o be_v not_o a_o jew_n i._n e._n not_o a_o jew_n indeed_o and_o accept_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o god_n who_o be_v â—ut_v outward_o â—nâ—_n rom._n 2.28_o 29._o but_o will_v you_o therefore_o say_v that_o a_o close_a hypocrite_n unâ—eâ—bers_v himself_o and_o fâ—lls_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n without_o
alone_o give_v right_o for_o god_n have_v make_v it_o one_o commandment_n of_o four_o to_o provide_v for_o the_o manner_n of_o his_o worship_n require_v that_o all_o his_o holy_a ordinance_n be_v attend_v in_o a_o solemn_a humble_a reverent_a and_o profitable_a manner_n and_o it_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o be_v meet_a and_o needful_a that_o person_n shall_v both_o know_v and_o own_o the_o covenant-state_n they_o be_v in_o and_o the_o state_n of_o subjection_n to_o christ_n government_n which_o the_o covenant_n place_v they_o in_o especial_o when_o they_o partake_v of_o such_o a_o fruit_n of_o the_o covenant_n as_o baptism_n for_o their_o child_n be_v that_o they_o shall_v do_v covenant-duty_n when_o they_o come_v for_o covenant_n privilege_n that_o they_o shall_v both_o seek_v and_o attend_v the_o lord_n holy_a ordinance_n though_o it_o be_v their_o right_a never_o so_o much_o in_o humility_n and_o fear_n and_o it_o be_v one_o branch_n of_o the_o covenant_n that_o they_o give_v up_o their_o child_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o do_v promise_n to_o take_v care_n for_o their_o christian_a education_n it_o must_v needs_o be_v suitable_a that_o they_o be_v mind_v of_o it_o when_o they_o present_v they_o to_o baptism_n and_o the_o more_o explicit_o they_o do_v so_o promise_v it_o be_v the_o better_a hence_o all_o reform_a church_n do_v in_o their_o directory_n and_o practice_n require_v profession_n and_o promise_v of_o parent_n or_o those_o that_o present_v the_o child_n to_o baptism_n and_o appoint_v a_o solemn_a manner_n of_o administration_n and_o stand_v upon_o it_o as_o a_o needful_a duty_n though_o they_o unanimous_o own_v and_o grant_v that_o the_o child_n have_v a_o full_a and_o clear_a right_n to_o baptism_n by_o its_o be_v bear_v within_o the_o visible_a church_n see_v english_a liturgy_n of_o the_o administration_n of_o baptism_n directory_n pag._n 31._o late_o petition_n for_o peace_n pag._n 61_o etc._n etc._n zepperi_fw-la polit._n ecces_n pag_n 128._o &_o pag._n 147_o 150._o alasco_n pag._n 121_o 137._o ratio_fw-la discipl_n bohem._n pag_n 43._o hence_o also_o no_o man_n will_v doubt_v but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o comfortable_a and_o desirable_a thing_n that_o the_o parent_n do_v address_v himself_o in_o the_o most_o solemn_a serious_a and_o spiritual_a manner_n to_o draw_v nigâ—_n to_o god_n upon_o such_o a_o occasion_n as_o the_o baptise_v of_o a_o child_n by_o humble_v himself_o before_o god_n for_o all_o neglect_v and_o breach_n of_o his_o covenant_n by_o take_v hold_n of_o the_o encourage_v promise_n of_o grace_n in_o christ_n in_o reference_n unto_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o by_o pour_v out_o earnest_a prayer_n to_o god_n for_o his_o child_n and_o for_o a_o heart_n to_o do_v the_o duty_n of_o a_o christian_a parent_n towards_o his_o child_n as_o do_v become_v he_o etc._n etc._n and_o such_o thing_n as_o these_o parent_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v stir_v up_o unto_o in_o the_o ministry_n of_o the_o word_n as_o their_o duty_n but_o still_o we_o must_v distinguish_v between_o what_o belong_v to_o the_o manner_n of_o administration_n or_o to_o the_o better_a and_o more_o comfortable_a attendance_n thereof_o and_o between_o what_o be_v essential_o requisite_a to_o give_v right_a and_o title_n to_o the_o ordinance_n before_o the_o church_n this_o latter_a mere_a membership_n or_o membership_n alone_o do_v a_o state_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v that_o unto_o which_o the_o right_a of_o baptism_n be_v annex_v church_n as_o not_o only_o the_o synod_n but_o the_o scripture_n teach_v and_o so_o 2._o the_o assertion_n beforementioned_a viz._n that_o it_o be_v not_o mere_a membership_n but_o qualify_v membership_n that_o give_v right_a to_o baptism_n in_o the_o sense_n above_o give_v be_v also_o antiscriptural_a 1._o because_o it_o direct_o overthrow_v infant-baptism_n which_o the_o scripture_n establish_v for_o what_o have_v infant_n more_o than_o membership_n or_o federal_n holiness_n or_o covenant-interest_n to_o give_v they_o right_o to_o baptism_n i._o e._n what_o have_v they_o more_o than_o this_o that_o they_o be_v regular_o by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n and_o his_o institution_n therein_o within_o the_o visible_a church_n if_o this_o will_v not_o suffice_v but_o there_o must_v be_v some_o other_o qualification_n beside_o and_o superad_v unto_o this_o what_o shall_v become_v of_o they_o for_o our_o part_n we_o know_v no_o strong_a argument_n for_o infants-baptism_n then_o that_o church_n member_n or_o foederati_fw-la be_v to_o be_v baptize_v the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a be_v church-member_n or_o foederati_fw-la ergo._fw-la but_o if_o the_o foresay_a assertion_n hold_v this_o argument_n fail_v and_o fall_v short_a for_o now_o church-membership_a or_o to_o be_v in_o covenant_n or_o federal_n holiness_n will_v not_o serve_v the_o turn_n but_o there_o must_v be_v more_o than_o this_o to_o give_v right_a to_o baptism_n how_o the_o sinew_n of_o the_o strong_a argument_n of_o the_o synod_n for_o enlargement_n of_o baptism_n will_v fare_v we_o know_v not_o but_o sure_o we_o be_v that_o this_o cut_n in_o sunder_o the_o sinew_n of_o the_o strong_a argument_n for_o infant-baptism_n which_o must_v fall_v if_o this_o stand_n but_o fall_v it_o never_o will_v through_o grace_n while_o the_o lord_n appointment_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o abraham_n stand_v viz._n to_o have_v the_o initiate_a seal_n run_v parallel_n with_o the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o or_o christ_n commission_n matth._n 28.19_o viz._n to_o baptise_v all_o disciple_n or_o all_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n let_v this_o assertion_n therefore_o fall_v which_o make_v the_o extent_n of_o the_o initiatory_a seal_n short_a than_o the_o covenant_n and_o deny_v baptism_n to_o run_v parallel_n with_o church-membership_a under_o the_o gospel_n hence_o 2._o it_o contradict_v that_o which_o the_o harmony_n of_o scripture_n and_o all_o orthodox_n divine_v acknowledge_v for_o a_o principle_n viz._n that_o the_o whole_a visible_a church_n i._n e._n now_o under_o the_o new_a testament_n ought_v to_o be_v baptize_v or_o that_o all_o church_n member_n be_v subject_n of_o baptism_n for_o if_o not_o mere_a membership_n or_o membership_n alone_o but_o qualify_v membership_n give_v right_a to_o baptism_n than_o not_o all_o member_n but_o some_o only_a viz._n those_o that_o be_v so_o and_o so_o qualify_v be_v to_o be_v baptize_v if_o baptism_n do_v not_o belong_v to_o mere_a membership_n or_o to_o a_o member_n as_o such_o than_o not_o to_o all_o member_n as_o à _fw-la quatenus_fw-la ad_fw-la omne_fw-la so_o à _fw-la non_fw-la quatenus_fw-la ad_fw-la non_fw-la omne_fw-la valet_fw-la consequentiae_fw-la this_o deny_v not_o only_o in_o the_o five_o but_o the_o first_o proposition_n of_o the_o late_a synod_n which_o yet_o the_o antisynodalia_fw-la pag._n 17._o seem_v to_o consent_n unto_o but_o let_v the_o argument_n that_o be_v give_v from_o scripture_n to_o confirm_v that_o first_o proposition_n be_v due_o weigh_v and_o they_o will_v be_v find_v to_o be_v of_o great_a weight_n then_o to_o be_v shake_v by_o this_o assertion_n now_o for_o the_o proof_n of_o this_o assertion_n viz._n because_o john_n be_v baptism_n which_o be_v christian_n baptism_n may_v not_o be_v apply_v to_o some_o who_o be_v stand_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n because_o they_o be_v not_o qualify_v with_o repentance_n luke_n 3.8_o &_o 7.30_o therefore_o christian_a baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v apply_v unto_o such_o as_o stand_v member_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n if_o they_o be_v not_o qualify_v with_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n answ._n let_v this_o be_v answer_v with_o reference_n to_o infant-baptism_n which_o lie_v upon_o our_o brethren_n to_o do_v as_o well_o as_o on_o we_o see_v they_o above_o declare_v antipoedobaptism_n to_o be_v a_o sinful_a opinion_n and_o do_v profess_v to_o hold_v and_o maintain_v the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n though_o indeed_o the_o reader_n can_v not_o gather_v so_o much_o from_o these_o word_n christian_n baptism_n be_v not_o to_o be_v apply_v unto_o such_o 〈◊〉_d stand_v member_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n if_o they_o be_v not_o qualify_v with_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n this_n seem_v direct_o to_o gainsay_v infant-baptism_n for_o infant_n do_v indeed_o stand_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n but_o how_o do_v they_o or_o can_v they_o show_v that_o they_o be_v qualify_v with_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n for_o it_o seem_v that_o neither_o be_v repentance_n itself_o sufficient_a without_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n but_o we_o be_v to_o suppose_v our_o brethren_n do_v not_o intend_v to_o oppose_v infant-baptism_n and_o therefore_o that_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o to_o require_v these_o fruit_n of_o repentance_n or_o qualification_n superad_v to_o membership_n of_o the_o child_n or_o personâ—_n to_o be_v baptize_v but_o of_o their_o parent_n though_o it_o be_v not_o so_o express_v but_o let_v this_o argument_n
baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n whereunto_o be_v add_v somewhat_o out_o of_o bucer_n parker_n and_o mr._n cotton_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o judgement_n of_o our_o brethren_n ans._n take_v capable_a of_o receive_v baptism_n himself_o or_o right_o to_o baptism_n himself_o for_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o capacity_n we_o may_v grant_v the_o major_n but_o the_o minor_a in_o manifest_o to_o be_v deny_v but_o take_v it_o for_o a_o frame_n of_o actual_a fitness_n to_o receive_v baptism_n we_o can_v say_v that_o we_o may_v grant_v the_o minor_a but_o sure_o the_o major_n will_v not_o hold_v it_o be_v true_a that_o that_o which_o do_v not_o put_v a_o man_n into_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v i._n e._n into_o a_o state_n of_o church-membership_a will_v not_o enable_v he_o to_o give_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o a_o member_n or_o not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o covenant_n interest_n none_o of_o we_o plead_v for_o the_o child_n baptism_n and_o if_o he_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d sure_o he_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o subject_a of_o baptism_n or_o in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o it_o as_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v whatever_o may_v the_o facto_fw-la hinder_v it_o but_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o adult_n person_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o member_n and_o so_o of_o right_a to_o baptism_n to_o have_v something_o fall_v in_o which_o may_v hinder_v the_o actual_a application_n of_o baptism_n to_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v or_o his_o actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o and_o yet_o the_o same_o thing_n may_v not_o hinder_v a_o person_n already_o baptize_v and_o stand_v in_o a_o covenant-state_n from_o convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o the_o right_n of_o the_o child_n depend_v upon_o the_o state_n of_o the_o parent_n that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n for_o if_o so_o then_o divine_a institution_n carry_v or_o transmit_v membership_n and_o so_o baptism-right_a to_o the_o child_n but_o the_o parent_n regular_a partake_n of_o this_o or_o that_o ordinance_n for_o himself_o depend_v much_o upon_o his_o own_o actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o as_o suppose_v a_o unbaptised_a adult_n person_n admit_v into_o the_o church_n who_o before_o he_o be_v baptize_v fall_n into_o some_o great_a offence_n though_o such_o a_o case_n can_v hardly_o fall_v out_o if_o baptism_n be_v administer_v according_a to_o the_o rule_n and_o apostolical_a practice_n i._n e._n immediate_o upon_o first_o admission_n matth._n 28.19_o act_n 16.33_o much_o more_o be_v it_o a_o harsh_a and_o strange_a supposition_n for_o a_o parent_n that_o ought_v to_o have_v be_v and_o be_v baptize_v in_o his_o infancy_n to_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v but_o allow_v the_o supposition_n that_o a_o person_n 〈◊〉_d in_o adult_n age_n fall_v into_o offence_n before_o he_o be_v baptize_v he_o may_v be_v call_v to_o give_v satisfaction_n for_o it_o and_o to_o show_v himself_o in_o a_o more_o serious_a and_o penitent_a frame_n before_o himself_o receive_v baptism_n but_o suppose_v he_o die_v before_o he_o do_v that_o and_o leave_v child_n behind_o he_o shall_v not_o they_o be_v baptize_v in_o like_a manner_n if_o a_o person_n already_o baptize_v yea_o or_o already_o in_o full_a communion_n shall_v fall_v into_o offence_n you_o will_v say_v that_o will_v put_v a_o stop_n to_o his_o own_o baptism_n in_o case_n upon_o a_o impossible_a supposition_n he_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v but_o what_o rule_n or_o reason_n be_v there_o for_o it_o to_o make_v a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n to_o cut_v oâ—_n the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n when_o as_o the_o parent_n be_v notwithstanding_o that_o offence_n still_o a_o member_n and_o within_o the_o church_n and_o do_v not_o show_v any_o such_o incorrigibleness_n as_o that_o 〈◊〉_d be_v by_o rule_n to_o be_v put_v out_o when_o as_o the_o offence_n do_v not_o cut_v off_o the_o parent_n membership_n be_v there_o any_o reason_n it_o shall_v cut_v off_o the_o membership_n of_o the_o child_n and_o if_o it_o cut_v not_o of_o the_o child_n membership_n it_o do_v not_o cut_v off_o his_o right_n to_o baptism_n whatever_o may_v be_v say_v for_o require_v the_o parent_n to_o confess_v his_o sin_n before_o his_o child_n baptism_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o more_o expedient_a and_o comfortable_a manner_n of_o administration_n therein_o we_o oppose_v not_o yet_o where_o do_v the_o scripture_n allow_v we_o to_o disannul_v the_o child_n right_a to_o baptism_n upon_o a_o particular_a offence_n in_o the_o parent_n especial_o when_o it_o be_v not_o such_o as_o do_v touch_v upon_o the_o essential_o of_o christianity_n and_o notwithstanding_o which_o the_o parent_n be_v regular_o and_o orderly_o continue_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o there_o may_v be_v obstruction_n to_o a_o parent_n receive_v baptism_n for_o himself_o in_o case_n he_o be_v unbaptise_v which_o do_v not_o incapacitate_v a_o baptize_v parent_n to_o transmit_v if_o we_o may_v attribute_v transmit_v to_o a_o parent_n which_o be_v proper_o the_o act_n of_o god_n institution_n and_o covenant_n right_a of_o baptism_n unto_o his_o child_n but_o for_o the_o minor_a or_o assumption_n of_o the_o argument_n in_o hand_n it_o will_v not_o hold_v in_o either_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o proposition_n above_o give_v for_o 1._o we_o will_v ready_o grant_v that_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v not_o in_o a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a himself_o i._n e._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n he_o can_v convey_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n but_o how_o manifest_a be_v it_o that_o that_o which_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v in_o their_o five_o proposition_n do_v render_v the_o person_n there_o describe_v in_o a_o state_n of_o right_a to_o baptism_n for_o themselves_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v viz._n in_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n for_o the_o proposition_n speak_v of_o church-member_n such_o as_o be_v admit_v member_n in_o minority_n and_o do_v orderly_a and_o regular_o so_o continue_v and_o that_o a_o state_n of_o membership_n be_v a_o state_n of_o baptism-right_a or_o that_o all_o church-member_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o subject_n of_o baptism_n be_v a_o evident_a truth_n that_o can_v be_v deny_v by_o any_o that_o grant_v the_o synod_n first_o proposition_n for_o which_o there_o be_v sun-light_n in_o scripture_n and_o never_o be_v orthodox_n divine_a hear_v of_o that_o question_v it_o hence_o according_a to_o that_o rule_v case_n here_o mention_v the_o parent_n in_o question_n have_v themselves_o a_o title_n to_o baptism_n may_v entitle_v other_o they_o have_v not_o only_o a_o title_n to_o it_o but_o regular_a and_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o for_o they_o be_v baptize_v and_o in_o case_n they_o be_v yet_o unbaptise_v they_o will_v be_v church-member_n have_v a_o title_n of_o right_n unto_o it_o they_o will_v stand_v possess_v of_o a_o interest_n in_o a_o title_n to_o it_o as_o mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n here_o allege_v speaks_z whatever_o may_v de_fw-mi facto_fw-la hinder_v their_o enjoyment_n of_o it_o and_o as_o à _fw-la non_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la act_n be_v invalid_a so_o ab_fw-la habente_fw-la potestatem_fw-la they_o be_v valid_a and_o good_a but_o god_n have_v full_a power_n to_o give_v forth_o what_o grant_v he_o please_v and_o he_o have_v in_o the_o order_n of_o his_o covenant_n in_o the_o visible_a church_n grant_v a_o membership_n and_o so_o baptism-right_a unto_o child_n bear_v of_o parent_n that_o be_v member_n and_o so_o the_o parent_n that_o stand_v member_n of_o the_o church_n have_v as_o a_o instrument_n under_o god_n and_o from_o his_o grant_n power_n to_o 〈◊〉_d such_o a_o right_a unto_o his_o child_n child_n be_v within_o the_o covenant_n because_o they_o come_v from_o parent_n within_o the_o covenant_n in_o which_o they_o be_v include_v and_o so_o receive_v also_o by_o god_n say_v mr._n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n that_o be_v here_o cite_v survey_v part_n 3._o pag._n 18._o 2._o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v yield_v that_o the_o parent_n describe_v by_o the_o synod_n in_o their_o five_o proposition_n will_v not_o have_v right_a to_o baptism_n themseluâ—s_o in_o case_n they_o be_v unbaptise_v though_o you_o take_v right_a to_o baptism_n for_o actual_a and_o immediate_a fitness_n for_o the_o same_o in_o fero_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sure_o he_o will_v have_v a_o hard_a talk_n who_o shall_v undertake_v out_o of_o scripture_n or_o orthodox_n divine_v to_o show_v that_o adult_a person_n understanding_n and_o believe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o public_o profess_v the_o same_o not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n and_o solemn_o take_v hâ—ld_n of_o the_o covenant_n wherein_o they_o
say_v to_o enter_v into_o it_o ground_n and_o end_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 132_o 133._o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v a_o mistake_n to_o say_v or_o think_v of_o such_o elder_n as_o concur_v with_o the_o synod_n that_o what_o be_v do_v by_o they_o towards_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n be_v now_o adult_n be_v a_o admit_v of_o they_o into_o membership_n for_o this_o those_o child_n have_v afore_o they_o be_v adult_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o now_o admit_v into_o it_o but_o to_o leave_v this_o why_o shall_v the_o reverend_a author_n suggest_v such_o a_o thing_n into_o the_o mind_n of_o his_o reader_n that_o the_o elder_n in_o their_o practice_n do_v differ_v from_o their_o doctrine_n and_o teach_v one_o thing_n in_o the_o synod_n and_o in_o their_o practice_n do_v contrary_a be_v it_o not_o more_o suitable_a to_o love_n which_o think_v not_o evil_a 1_o cor._n 13._o nor_o receive_v a_o reproach_n against_o one_o neighbour_n psal._n 15._o to_o endeavour_v to_o bring_v such_o elder_n as_o be_v thus_o faulty_a if_o indeed_o there_o be_v any_o to_o repentance_n for_o their_o sail_v therein_o rather_o than_o to_o give_v occasion_n of_o misapprehension_n against_o they_o by_o write_v thus_o of_o they_o it_o may_v well_o be_v call_v misapprehension_n for_o there_o be_v few_o of_o the_o elder_n in_o comparison_n that_o have_v yet_o put_v the_o child_n of_o church-member_n to_o a_o public_a own_n of_o the_o covenant_n afore_o the_o time_n of_o their_o admission_n to_o full_a communion_n and_o for_o those_o few_o that_o have_v do_v it_o as_o this_o be_v not_o a_o admit_v of_o they_o into_o membership_n for_o that_o they_o have_v before_o so_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a to_o prove_v that_o when_o this_o be_v do_v that_o their_o infant_n may_v be_v baptise_a which_o be_v the_o case_n the_o synod_n speak_v of_o it_o will_v be_v hard_a we_o say_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o parent_n who_o so_o do_v be_v not_o qualify_v according_a as_o the_o five_o proposition_n describe_v and_o therefore_o to_o give_v occasion_n of_o other_o thought_n not_o only_o against_o some_o few_o of_o the_o elder_n but_o even_o of_o all_o for_o what_o be_v here_o intimate_v be_v not_o of_o some_o only_a but_o of_o all_o alike_o without_o difference_n what_o may_v be_v think_v of_o this_o we_o leave_v to_o the_o further_a consideration_n of_o the_o reverend_a author_n to_o the_o second_o argument_n of_o the_o synod_n that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v either_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n or_o stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n either_o holy_a or_o unclean_a either_o within_o the_o church_n or_o without_o either_o such_o as_o have_v god_n for_o their_o god_n or_o be_v without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n but_o he_o that_o consider_v the_o proposition_n will_v not_o affirm_v the_o latter_a concern_v these_o child_n and_o the_o former_a be_v grant_v infer_v their_o right_n to_o baptism_n to_o this_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o the_o more_o he_o consider_v the_o proposition_n the_o less_o he_o find_v in_o it_o to_o evince_v the_o former_a and_o the_o more_o to_o conclude_v the_o latter_a ans._n now_o the_o latter_a be_v that_o the_o child_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n not_o holy_a but_o unclean_a and_o without_o the_o church_n and_o such_o as_o be_v without_o god_n in_o the_o world_n and_o if_o the_o reverend_a author_n find_v so_o much_o to_o conclude_v thus_o of_o the_o child_n of_o church-member_n which_o member_n understand_v the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o public_o assent_v thereto_o be_v not_o scandalous_a in_o life_n but_o thus_o and_o further_o qualify_v as_o in_o the_o proposition_n be_v express_v if_o he_o find_v much_o to_o conclude_v thus_o of_o these_o child_n if_o he_o be_v have_v express_v any_o part_n thereof_o it_o may_v have_v be_v take_v into_o consideration_n but_o nothing_o be_v express_v how_o can_v it_o a_o mere_a contrary_a affirmation_n how_o can_v it_o go_v for_o a_o sufficient_a confutation_n as_o for_o that_o which_o he_o add_v that_o if_o a_o man_n have_v no_o more_o than_o the_o proposition_n hold_v forth_o he_o may_v be_v a_o stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n unclean_a and_o without_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o this_o speak_v of_o grow_v person_n and_o therefore_o how_o be_v the_o synod_n argument_n hereby_o touch_v which_o speak_v of_o little_a child_n nor_o be_v it_o easy_o prove_v that_o a_o grow_v person_n who_o be_v admit_v in_o minority_n and_o be_v now_o qualify_v as_o the_o proposition_n express_v that_o such_o a_o grow_a person_n be_v now_o a_o stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n and_o without_o the_o church_n and_o without_o god_n in_o tâ—â—_n world_n and_o this_o be_v respect_n of_o his_o external_a state_n or_o be_v in_o the_o church-visible_a we_o see_v not_o that_o this_o be_v prove_v at_o all_o for_o as_o for_o rom._n 9.6_o 7_o 8._o which_o be_v here_o allege_a they_o be_v not_o all_o israel_n which_o be_v of_o israel_n etc._n etc._n the_o text_n may_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v not_o all_o elect_a of_o god_n or_o sincere_a believer_n who_o in_o regard_n of_o external_a relation_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n and_o this_o will_v be_v easy_o grant_v but_o for_o membership_n in_o the_o church-visible_a of_o which_o be_v our_o question_n that_o text_n have_v nothing_o in_o it_o at_o all_o to_o prove_v that_o man_n who_o be_v member_n of_o this_o church_n in_o their_o minority_n be_v now_o qualify_v as_o the_o synod_n express_v that_o these_o be_v now_o without_o such_o membership_n and_o external_a state_n this_o be_v not_o prove_v at_o all_o by_o this_o text._n for_o if_o we_o shall_v so_o say_v we_o shall_v make_v the_o apostle_n to_o contradict_v himself_o for_o of_o these_o very_a person_n and_o people_n of_o who_o â—e_n say_v they_o be_v not_o all_o israel_n not_o all_o child_n not_o all_o the_o child_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n of_o these_o very_a person_n and_o people_n he_o say_v ver_fw-la 4._o that_o they_o be_v israelite_n to_o who_o pertain_v the_o adoption_n and_o the_o glory_n and_o the_o covenant_n and_o the_o give_v of_o the_o law_n and_o the_o service_n of_o god_n and_o the_o promise_n that_o be_v they_o be_v god_n adopt_a child_n in_o regard_n of_o external_a covenant_n and_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church-visible_a and_o yet_o these_o be_v not_o all_o israel_n that_o be_v they_o be_v not_o all_o god_n israel_n by_o election_n and_o spiritual_a regeneration_n thus_o the_o apostle_n word_n be_v easy_o reconcile_v but_o how_o shall_v they_o be_v reconcile_v if_o the_o latter_a as_o well_o as_o the_o former_a be_v mean_v of_o the_o church-visible_a can_v they_o be_v israelite_n and_o not_o israel_n in_o the_o same_o respect_n can_v they_o in_o respect_n of_o external_a state_n be_v partaker_n of_o adoption_n god_n covenant_n and_o promise_n etc._n etc._n and_o so_o be_v church-member_n and_o yet_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o same_o estate_n be_v no_o church-member_n at_o all_o nor_o in_o the_o church-covenant_n at_o all_o it_o be_v not_o easy_a to_o conceive_v how_o this_o can_v be_v and_o therefore_o the_o word_n in_o rom._n 9.6_o 7_o 8._o be_v not_o fit_o apply_v to_o prove_v that_o man_n who_o be_v church-member_n in_o their_o minority_n may_v be_v qualify_v as_o the_o five_o proposition_n express_v and_o yet_o now_o be_v stranger_n from_o the_o covenant_n and_o without_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o their_o visible_a and_o external_a state_n whereas_o the_o synod_n for_o a_o three_o argument_n say_v that_o to_o deny_v this_o proposition_n will_v be_v 1._o to_o stratten_v the_o grace_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o gospel-dispensation_n and_o to_o make_v the_o church_n in_o new-testament-time_n in_o worse_a case_n relate_v to_o their_o child_n successive_o than_o be_v the_o jew_n of_o old_a 2._o to_o render_v the_o jew_n when_o they_o shall_v be_v call_v in_o a_o worse_a condition_n then_o 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it_o not_o a_o vain_a thing_n the_o person_n who_o you_o be_v about_o to_o disown_n be_v either_o within_o the_o church_n or_o without_o a_o member_n or_o not_o a_o member_n 17._o if_o he_o be_v within_o why_o may_v you_o not_o judge_v and_o censure_v he_o with_o the_o censure_n of_o cut_v off_o or_o cast_v out_o i._n e._n excommunication_n 1_o cor._n 5.12_o 13._o there_o be_v cause_n for_o it_o if_o he_o be_v without_o why_o shall_v you_o disow_v he_o any_o more_o than_o you_o do_v non-member_n or_o such_o as_o be_v never_o join_v to_o the_o church_n will_v it_o not_o seem_v a_o strange_a and_o vain_a thing_n if_o the_o church_n shall_v put_v forth_o a_o solemn_a public_a act_n to_o disow_v a_o company_n of_o non-member_n that_o be_v without_o the_o church_n to_o what_o purpose_n shall_v this_o be_v how_o act_v 8.21_o here_o cite_v in_o the_o margin_n shall_v make_v for_o this_o disow_n we_o understand_v not_o peter_n there_o tell_v simon_n magus_n that_o he_o be_v far_o from_o have_v 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do_v not_o hence_o it_o be_v not_o full_a communion_n but_o membership_n that_o do_v proper_o and_o formal_o render_v a_o person_n a_o subject_a capable_a of_o excommunication_n hence_o it_o agree_v to_o all_o that_o be_v member_n though_o they_o have_v not_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n and_o every_o member_n have_v some_o communion_n though_o not_o full_a communion_n and_o therefore_o may_v be_v excommunicate_v paul_n when_o he_o be_v speak_v of_o the_o church_n judicial_a proceed_n and_o that_o unto_o excommunication_n make_v it_o applicable_a to_o all_o that_o be_v within_o 1_o cor._n 5.12_o if_o in_o full_a communion_n yet_o church-judgement_n fâ—lls_v upon_o they_o not_o as_o in_o full_a communion_n but_o as_o within_o the_o cast_v out_o of_o cain_n and_o ishmael_n the_o cut_n off_o of_o the_o bear_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n from_o their_o people_n a_o expression_n often_o use_v the_o cast_v out_o of_o the_o child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n matth._n 8.12_o do_v at_o 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until_o first_o increase_n of_o faith_n do_v appear_v but_o from_o those_o which_o belong_v to_o the_o begin_n of_o faith_n and_o entrance_n into_o the_o church_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v exclude_v where_o the_o doctor_n distinguish_v between_o initium_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o beginning_n of_o faith_n and_o incrementum_fw-la fidei_fw-la the_o increase_n or_o growth_n of_o faith_n and_o make_v the_o former_a to_o suffice_v unto_o baptism_n but_o the_o latter_a to_o be_v requisite_a to_o full_a communion_n or_o to_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o initial_a faith_n entitle_v to_o the_o seal_n of_o initiation_n but_o a_o grow_v faith_n i._n e._n a_o faith_n of_o some_o growth_n though_o yet_o far_o short_a of_o perfection_n and_o need_v to_o grow_v still_o a_o faith_n grow_v up_o unto_o some_o sensible_a and_o lively_a exercise_n be_v requisite_a unto_o the_o sacrament_n of_o growth_n and_o fruition_n they_o be_v believer_n yet_o but_o initial_a believer_n that_o john_n baptize_v in_o the_o 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man_n hinder_v the_o exercise_n of_o grace_n and_o so_o hinder_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o yet_o do_v not_o aways_o charitable_a hope_n of_o the_o be_v of_o grace_n or_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n if_o a_o man_n be_v under_o offence_n in_o the_o church_n he_o be_v suspend_v from_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o a_o renew_n or_o exercise_n of_o repentance_n do_v appear_v yet_o we_o still_o repute_v he_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o a_o believer_n or_o to_o have_v the_o be_v of_o grace_n now_o then_o to_o apply_v this_o to_o the_o synod_n proceed_n for_o answer_n to_o what_o be_v here_o sâ—id_v viz._n that_o the_o synod_n do_v acknowledge_v there_o aught_o to_o be_v true_a save_a faith_n in_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o judgement_n oâ—_n rational_a charity_n or_o else_o the_o child_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v baptise_a yet_o can_v not_o be_v prevail_v with_o to_o set_v this_o down_o â—â—r_a a_o conclusion_n 1._o we_o do_v and_o do_v acknowledge_v that_o in_o 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church_n approbation_n of_o his_o fitness_n and_o â—o_o want_v a_o orderly_a admission_n thereunto_o now_o in_o this_o sense_n we_o deny_v the_o major_n or_o proposition_n of_o the_o argument_n above_o mention_v and_o do_v conceive_v that_o there_o iâ—_n warrant_v to_o be_v â—â—und_v in_o scripture_n for_o the_o apply_v of_o baptism_n to_o child_n 〈◊〉_d parent_n do_v want_v actual_a qualification_n fit_v they_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n among_o sundry_a other_o scripture_n evidence_n of_o it_o one_o be_v from_o the_o analogy_n of_o the_o passeover_n and_o circumcision_n in_o the_o church_n of_o iâ—rael_n where_o the_o parâ—nt_n may_v want_v actual_a fitness_n for_o the_o passeover_n by_o manifold_a ceremonial_a uncleanness_n and_o yet_o that_o hinder_v not_o the_o circumcise_n of_o the_o child_n now_o a_o liberty_n of_o argue_v from_o thence_o to_o the_o gospel_n passover_n and_o gospel-circumcision_a i._n e._n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o baptism_n be_v here_o grant_v and_o 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qualification_n in_o a_o state_n of_o unfitness_n but_o he_o must_v be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o legal_a purity_n and_o cleanness_n before_o he_o partake_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n 2._o he_o must_v especial_o after_o some_o uncleanness_n of_o a_o more_o remarkable_a nature_n be_v judge_v and_o pronounce_v by_o the_o priest_n to_o be_v clean_o and_o so_o free_a to_o partake_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n levit._n 13.6_o so_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n must_v have_v their_o fitness_n for_o the_o lord_n table_n judge_v of_o and_o approve_v by_o those_o in_o the_o church_n to_o who_o the_o power_n of_o such_o judgement_n and_o approbation_n do_v belong_v and_o have_v these_o two_o thing_n personal_a qualification_n and_o church-approbation_n then_o and_o not_o before_o they_o be_v to_o come_v to_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o those_o two_o be_v all_o they_o need_v they_o do_v not_o need_v a_o new_a admittance_n into_o membership_n as_o if_o they_o be_v before_o not_o of_o the_o church_n no_o 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the_o gospel_n yet_o the_o present_a defect_n hereof_o do_v not_o put_v the_o parent_n out_o of_o the_o church_n nor_o exclude_v his_o child_n from_o membership_n or_o from_o the_o initiatory_a seal_n of_o it_o no_o more_o then_o alike_a defect_n do_v then_o we_o may_v also_o mind_v the_o case_n of_o one_o that_o have_v be_v in_o full_a communion_n but_o fall_v into_o offence_n be_v under_o public_a admonition_n for_o it_o be_v not_o he_o in_o a_o state_n of_o unfitness_n take_v it_o for_o want_v of_o actual_a fit_a qualification_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n yet_o this_o will_v not_o debar_v his_o child_n from_o baptism_n because_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o cut_v off_o from_o membership_n neither_o do_v his_o have_v once_o be_v in_o full_a communion_n alter_v the_o case_n or_o render_v he_o more_o in_fw-la a_o state_n of_o fitness_n then_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v for_o the_o one_o be_v a_o member_n as_o well_o and_o as_o true_o as_o the_o other_o and_o to_o be_v decline_v and_o fall_v off_o from_o supper-qualifications_a and_o debar_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n for_o open_a offence_n be_v worse_a than_o for_o a_o young_a man_n simple_o not_o to_o have_v attain_v thereunto_o it_o be_v at_o least_o ecclesiastically_o worse_o we_o speak_v not_o of_o what_o the_o inward_a state_n before_o god_n may_v be_v but_o that_o it_o be_v worse_o in_o foro_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la appear_v because_o the_o church_n have_v have_v and_o see_v cause_n to_o dispense_v a_o public_a censure_n in_o the_o one_o case_n but_o not_o in_o the_o other_o now_o if_o a_o person_n may_v retain_v his_o membership_n and_o so_o derive_v baptism-right_a to_o his_o child_n notwithstanding_o his_o personal_a unfitness_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o the_o former_a case_n why_o not_o as_o well_o nay_o much_o more_o in_o the_o latter_a but_o let_v it_o serious_o be_v consider_v whether_o there_o be_v any_o warrant_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n to_o make_v the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n to_o depend_v upon_o the_o parent_n actual_a fitness_n for_o or_o admission_n to_o the_o lord_n supper_n circumcision_n what_o fitness_n for_o the_o lord_n supper_n have_v those_o that_o be_v baptize_v by_o john_n baptist_n and_o by_o christ_n disciple_n at_o his_o appointment_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o public_a ministry_n what_o fitness_n have_v the_o jailor_n when_o himself_o and_o all_o his_o be_v baptize_v after_o a_o hour_n instinction_n wherein_o probable_o he_o have_v not_o so_o much_o as_o hear_v any_o thing_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n the_o teach_n of_o which_o follow_v after_o discipling_n and_o baptise_v as_o be_v hint_v by_o that_o order_n in_o matth._n 28.19_o 20_o and_o by_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o not_o teach_v the_o catechumeni_fw-la any_o thing_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o they_o be_v baptize_v as_o be_v witness_v by_o hanmer_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 13_o 14._o albaspinans_n apud_fw-la baxter_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 132._o we_o 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john_n to_o the_o end_n of_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n there_o be_v but_o one_o place_n that_o sound_v as_o if_o it_o be_v quick_o after_o viz._n act_n 2.41_o 42._o which_o be_v here_o allege_a by_o our_o brethren_n but_o to_o that_o 1._o there_o be_v no_o word_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n in_o peter_n sermon_n the_o head_n whereof_o be_v in_o that_o chapter_n set_v down_o though_o tâ—ere_o be_v somewhat_o of_o the_o other_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n ver_fw-la 38._o and_o upon_o glad_a receive_v 〈◊〉_d be_v word_n they_o be_v baptize_v immediate_o ver_fw-la 41._o 2._o hence_o there_o must_v be_v some_o time_n afterward_o for_o instruct_v they_o in_o the_o doctrine_n and_o use_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o paul_n nad_z some_o time_n for_o that_o aâ—_n corinth_n 1_o cor._n 11.23_o with_o act_n 18.11_o before_o their_o admission_n thereunto_o or_o participation_n thereof_o and_o so_o much_o be_v â—â—â—imated_v in_o the_o text_n when_o it_o be_v say_v they_o after_o their_o be_v add_v and_o baptize_v continue_v in_o or_o give_v sedulous_a attendance_n to_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n fiâ—st_o and_o then_o break_v of_o bread_n there_o be_v some_o time_n of_o gain_v further_o acquaintance_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o his_o way_n and_o ordinance_n and_o with_o this_o in_o special_a by_o the_o apostle_n doctrine_n and_o instruction_n between_o their_o baptise_v and_o their_o participation_n of_o the_o supper_n some_o time_n we_o say_v more_o or_o less_o and_o that_o that_o be_v attain_v in_o a_o very_a little_a time_n then_o under_o those_o plentiful_a pouring_n forth_o of_o the_o spirit_n require_v usual_o a_o much_o long_a time_n now_o in_o ordinary_a dispensation_n the_o preface_n proceed_v to_o strengthen_v their_o second_o reason_n by_o testimony_n and_o the_o assertion_n which_o they_o seem_v to_o intend_v the_o proof_n of_o by_o these_o testimony_n be_v a_o very_a strange_a one_o viz._n this_o neither_o do_v we_o read_v that_o in_o the_o primitive_a 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also_o admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o of_o this_o also_o we_o must_v say_v that_o we_o find_v not_o any_o thing_n that_o prove_v it_o but_o much_o to_o the_o contrary_n and_o though_o we_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o that_o have_v purposely_o handle_v this_o point_n touch_v the_o different_a extent_n of_o these_o two_o sacrament_n yet_o we_o find_v enough_o to_o show_v we_o that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n in_o all_o especial_o in_o the_o best_a age_n and_o the_o choice_a light_n therein_o both_o ancient_a and_o modern_a have_v concur_v and_o meet_v in_o this_o principle_n as_o a_o grant_v and_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o baptism_n be_v of_o large_a extent_n than_o the_o lord_n supper_n so_o as_o that_o many_o that_o be_v within_o the_o visible_a church_n may_v have_v baptism_n for_o themselves_o or_o at_o least_o for_o their_o child_n who_o yet_o ought_v not_o present_o to_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o who_o do_v at_o present_a want_n actual_a fitness_n for_o it_o the_o witness_n above_o cite_v tell_v we_o that_o in_o ancient_a time_n they_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o impart_v any_o thing_n to_o the_o caâ—echumeni_n about_o the_o lord_n supper_n till_o after_o their_o baptism_n and_o if_o hanmer_n have_v right_o observe_v even_o the_o adult_n after_o their_o baptism_n must_v have_v confirmation_n before_o they_o partake_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n hanmer_n of_o confirmation_n pag._n 15_o 22._o and_o vid._n pag._n 59_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o perfectus_fw-la among_o the_o ancient_n be_v as_o much_o as_o with_o we_o one_o in_o full_a communion_n but_o none_o be_v by_o they_o reckon_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o rank_n of_o perfect_a christian_n that_o have_v not_o receive_v the_o holy_a ghost_n either_o in_o extraordinary_a gift_n or_o in_o special_a confirm_a grace_n see_v hanmer_n of_o confirmat_fw-la
from_o john_n require_v of_o qualification_n over_o and_o above_o membership_n be_v answer_v with_o reference_n to_o infant-baptism_n and_o that_o will_v answer_v it_o as_o to_o the_o case_n in_o hand_n we_o remember_v in_o debate_n between_o the_o elder_n and_o a_o antipoedâ—baptist_n many_o year_n since_o this_o very_a argument_n be_v urge_v by_o he_o and_o the_o same_o answer_n that_o be_v give_v then_o we_o shall_v give_v here_o viz._n 1._o that_o mere_o to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o old-testament_n jewish_a church_n or_o simple_o to_o be_v in_o covenant_n or_o confederate_a under_o the_o old-testament_n manner_n of_o administration_n suffice_v not_o to_o baptism_n but_o to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n and_o covenant_n of_o the_o new-testament_n to_o be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o gospel_n church_n state_v and_o settle_v under_o the_o gospel_n manner_n of_o administration_n this_o be_v that_o which_o right_o to_o baptism_n stand_v upon_o and_o here_o membership_n alone_o suffice_v thereunto_o when_o we_o say_v that_o member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n confederate_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v baptise_a we_o must_v needs_o be_v understand_v to_o speak_v of_o the_o visible_a church_n or_o of_o covenant-interest_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o gospel-administration_n which_o be_v found_v upon_o christ_n already_o come_v and_o it_o be_v most_o absurd_a and_o irrational_a to_o understand_v we_o otherwise_o we_o have_v now_o no_o other_o church_n or_o covenant_n to_o speak_v of_o but_o that_o old_a testament-church-membership_a give_v right_a to_o circumcision_n new-testament_n church-membership_a give_v right_a to_o baptism_n but_o at_o the_o transition_n from_o old_a to_o new_a or_o at_o the_o first_o set_v up_o of_o the_o gospel-administration_n oâ—_n kingdom_n of_o heaven_n as_o it_o be_v call_v and_o of_o baptism_n the_o enter_a seal_n thereof_o in_o john_n baptist_n and_o christ_n time_n well_o may_v more_o be_v require_v then_o bare_a membership_n in_o the_o jewish_a church_n which_o be_v then_o also_o under_o great_a corruption_n and_o degeneracy_n hence_o all_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v not_o baptise_a but_o only_o those_o that_o in_o some_o degree_n embrace_v the_o new_a and_o reform_a administration_n in_o order_n to_o which_o a_o special_a repentance_n be_v then_o necessary_a mat._n 3.2_o but_o to_o infer_v from_o hence_o a_o necessity_n of_o qualification_n superad_v unto_o membership_n in_o state_v christian_a or_o gospel-churche_n in_o order_n to_o baptism-right_a will_v not_o hold_v there_o be_v a_o wide_a difference_n between_o the_o case_n of_o ecclesia_fw-la christiana_n constituenda_fw-la and_o constituta_fw-la in_o those_o first_o beginning_n of_o the_o gospel_n 48._o even_o pious_a person_n and_o man_n fear_v god_n such_o as_o the_o eunuch_n and_o cornelius_n must_v have_v further_a instruction_n and_o preparation_n before_o they_o can_v be_v baptise_a may_v a_o man_n thence_o infer_v that_o now_o in_o the_o christian_a church_n constitute_v a_o christian_a or_o church-member_n that_o fear_v god_n be_v not_o baptizable_a without_o further_a qualification_n 2._o much_o of_o what_o be_v require_v by_o john_n baptist_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n before_o he_o baptise_a they_o may_v be_v refer_v to_o the_o manner_n of_o administration_n and_o be_v upon_o that_o account_n attend_v in_o a_o case_n so_o circumstance_v as_o that_o be_v for_o that_o by_o reason_n of_o their_o church-state_n though_o so_o degenerate_a as_o they_o be_v they_o be_v in_o a_o far_a other_o and_o near_a capacity_n than_o non-member_n and_o that_o thereby_o they_o have_v a_o right_n to_o the_o ministration_n of_o john_n and_o christ_n among_o they_o be_v plain_a from_o many_o scripture_n luk._n 1.16_o john_n 1.11_o mat._n 10.6_o &_o 15.24_o 26._o rom._n 15.8_o but_o those_o that_o be_v then_o to_o be_v baptise_a at_o that_o first_o institution_n of_o baptism_n and_o beginning_n of_o the_o gospel-administration_n be_v adult_a person_n and_o they_o defile_v with_o scandal_n and_o degeneracy_n yea_o have_v much_o lose_v the_o truth_n of_o doctrine_n in_o many_o poinst_a hence_o they_o can_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o entertain_v that_o beginning_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o it_o be_v call_v mark_v 1.1_o 2._o and_o baptism_n the_o sign_n and_o seal_v thereof_o without_o previous_a conviction_n and_o penitential_a preparation_n by_o the_o powerful_a ministry_n of_o the_o baptist._n but_o it_o do_v not_o appear_v that_o more_o be_v pre-required_n of_o they_o than_o what_o be_v necessary_a to_o a_o humble_a submit_v to_o the_o ordinance_n and_o to_o that_o new_a and_o reform_a administration_n then_o on_o foot_n which_o be_v betokened_a and_o seal_v thereby_o and_o he_o that_o shall_v consider_v the_o multitude_n that_o be_v baptise_a by_o john_n mat._n 3.5_o 6._o luk._n 3.7_o 21._o in_o the_o short_a time_n of_o his_o ministry_n and_o in_o those_o glimmering_n of_o gospel-light_n that_o they_o then_o have_v together_o with_o the_o great_a weakness_n and_o rawness_n of_o some_o that_o he_o baptise_a john_n 3.25_o 26._o act._n 19.1_o 5._o will_n not_o think_v that_o the_o person_n baptise_a by_o john_n do_v excel_v those_o who_o the_o synod_n describe_v in_o their_o five_o proposition_n of_o which_o our_o brethren_n be_v so_o sensible_a in_o their_o antisynodalia_a pag._n 18._o that_o there_o they_o choose_v rather_o to_o wave_v johns_n practice_n and_o to_o seek_v for_o strict_a precedent_n though_o here_o they_o plead_v and_o that_o right_o and_o true_o that_o john_n baptism_n be_v christian_a baptism_n and_o hold_v forth_o a_o rule_n unto_o we_o as_o for_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n in_o mat._n 3.6_o when_o our_o child_n do_v in_o their_o assens_n to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o consent_v to_o the_o covenant_n acknowledge_v their_o sin_n and_o misery_n by_o nature_n their_o perish_a condition_n without_o christ_n etc._n etc._n be_v willing_a to_o submit_v to_o instruction_n and_o government_n for_o the_o reformation_n of_o their_o sin_n as_o those_o that_o be_v baptise_a by_o john_n show_v their_o penitential_a frame_n by_o that_o viz._n a_o submission_n to_o his_o instruction_n and_o counsel_n luk._n 3.10_o 14._o they_o can_v be_v deny_v to_o have_v somewhat_o of_o that_o confession_n of_o sin_n so_o chemnit_fw-la on_o the_o place_n they_o acknowledge_v themselves_o to_o be_v sinner_n 3.6_o and_o both_o in_o word_n and_o by_o their_o action_n in_o desire_v to_o be_v baptize_v they_o profess_v their_o fear_n of_o the_o wrath_n of_o god_n and_o desire_v to_o escape_v it_o but_o if_o any_o do_v stand_v guilty_a of_o open_a scandal_n we_o know_v not_o why_o they_o shall_v not_o make_v particular_a confession_n of_o their_o sin_n therein_o when_o they_o come_v to_o present_v themselves_o before_o god_n and_o desire_v baptism_n for_o their_o child_n if_o they_o have_v not_o do_v it_o before_o so_o 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right_o of_o
apply_v to_o they_o in_o all_o this_o therefore_o we_o see_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n or_o reason_n to_o necessitate_v a_o dissent_n from_o the_o synod_n our_o brethren_n have_v one_o thing_n more_o yet_o to_o add_v viz._n that_o there_o be_v danger_n of_o great_a corruption_n and_o pollution_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n by_o the_o enlargement_n of_o the_o subject_a of_o baptism_n answ._n 1._o and_o be_v there_o no_o danger_n of_o corruption_n by_o over-straitning_a the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n certain_o it_o be_v a_o corruption_n to_o take_v from_o the_o rule_n as_o well_o as_o to_o add_v to_o it_o and_o a_o corruption_n that_o our_o weakness_n be_v in_o danger_n of_o and_o it_o be_v a_o dangerous_a thing_n to_o be_v guilty_a of_o break_v god_n covenant_n by_o not_o apply_v the_o initiate_a seal_n unto_o those_o it_o be_v appoint_v for_o even_o unto_o all_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n gen._n 17.9_o 10_o 14._o moses_n find_v danger_n in_o it_o exod._n 4.24_o be_v there_o no_o danger_n of_o put_v those_o out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n who_o christ_n will_v have_v keep_v in_o and_o deprive_v they_o of_o those_o church_n advantage_n rom._n 3.1_o 2._o that_o may_v help_v they_o towards_o heaven_n even_o christ_n own_o disciple_n may_v be_v in_o danger_n of_o incur_v his_o displeasure_n by_o keep_v poor_a little_a oneâ—_n away_o from_o he_o mark_v 10.13_o 14._o to_o go_v pluck_v up_o all_o the_o tare_n be_v a_o â—ealous_a motion_n and_o have_v a_o good_a intention_n but_o the_o housholder_n conclude_v there_o be_v danger_n in_o it_o of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n also_o 2._o if_o the_o enlargement_n be_v beyond_o the_o bound_n of_o the_o rule_n it_o will_v bring_v in_o corruption_n else_o not_o our_o work_n be_v therefore_o to_o study_v the_o rule_n and_o keep_v close_o to_o that_o as_o the_o only_a true_a way_n to_o the_o church_n purity_n and_o glory_n to_o go_v aside_o from_o that_o to_o the_o right_a hand_n wlll_v bring_v corruption_n as_o well_o as_o 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conversion_n 〈◊〉_d to_o the_o child_n of_o the_o covenant_n a_o fruit_n of_o the_o covenant_n say_v mr_n coâ—ton_n 29._o if_o we_o do_v not_o keep_v in_o the_o way_n of_o a_o convert_v grace-giving_a covenant_n and_o keep_v person_n under_o those_o church-dispensation_n wherein_o grace_n be_v give_v the_o church_n will_v die_v of_o a_o linger_a though_o not_o of_o a_o violent_a death_n the_o lord_n have_v not_o set_v up_o church_n only_o that_o a_o few_o old_a christian_n may_v keep_v one_o another_o warm_a while_n they_o live_v and_o then_o carry_v away_o the_o church_n into_o the_o cold_a grave_n with_o they_o when_o they_o die_v no_o but_o that_o they_o may_v with_o all_o the_o care_n and_o with_o all_o the_o obligation_n and_o advantage_n to_o that_o care_n that_o may_v be_v 〈◊〉_d up_o still_o successive_o another_o generation_n of_o subject_n to_o christ_n that_o may_v stand_v up_o in_o his_o kingdom_n when_o they_o be_v go_v that_o so_o he_o may_v have_v a_o people_n and_o kingdom_n successive_o continue_v to_o he_o from_o one_o generation_n to_o another_o we_o may_v be_v very_o injurious_a to_o christ_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o soul_n of_o man_n by_o too_o much_o straighten_n and_o narrow_a the_o bound_n of_o his_o kingdom_n or_o visible_a church_n here_o on_o earth_n certain_o enlargement_n so_o it_o be_v a_o regular_a enlargement_n thereof_o be_v a_o very_a desirable_a thing_n it_o be_v a_o great_a honour_n to_o christ_n to_o have_v many_o willing_a subject_n as_o these_o be_v willing_a and_o desirous_a to_o be_v under_o the_o government_n of_o christ_n that_o we_o plead_v for_o and_o very_o suitable_a to_o the_o spirit_n and_o grace_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o gospel_n 110.3_o in_o church-reformation_n it_o be_v a_o observable_a truth_n say_v â—areus_fw-la on_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n that_o those_o that_o be_v for_o too_o much_o strictness_n do_v more_o buâ—t_a then_o profit_v the_o church_n see_v diodaâ—e_n on_o matt._n 13.29_o cyprian_n epist._n 51._o 3._o there_o be_v apparent_o a_o great_a â—anger_n of_o corruption_n to_o the_o church_n by_o enlarge_a the_o subject_n of_o full_a communion_n and_o admit_v unqualify_v or_o mean_o qualify_v person_n to_o the_o lord_n table_n and_o vote_v in_o the_o church_n whereby_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n will_v soon_o be_v prejudice_v and_o election_n admission_n censure_n so_o carry_v as_o will_v be_v hazardous_a thereunto_o now_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o this_o be_v and_o will_v be_v the_o temptation_n viz._n to_o ever-enlarge_a full_a communion_n it_o baptism_n be_v limit_v to_o the_o child_n of_o such_o as_o be_v admit_v thereunto_o and_o it_o be_v easy_a to_o observe_v that_o many_o of_o the_o reason_n of_o our_o brethren_n and_o other_o be_v more_o against_o the_o non-admission_n of_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n to_o full_a communion_n then_o against_o the_o admission_n of_o their_o child_n to_o baptism_n how_o unreasonable_a be_v it_o then_o to_o object_n against_o we_o â—s_a corrupter_n of_o the_o church_n when_o we_o stand_v for_o a_o great_a strictness_n than_o they_o in_o that_o wherein_o the_o main_a danger_n of_o church-corrupting_a lie_n we_o doubt_v not_o to_o affirm_v that_o that_o principle_n which_o have_v be_v hold_v forth_o by_o our_o brethren_n viz._n that_o if_o the_o church_n can_v have_v any_o hope_n of_o person_n that_o they_o have_v any_o thing_n of_o faith_n and_o grace_n iâ—_n they_o though_o never_o so_o little_a they_o ought_v be_v adult_n to_o be_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n this_o we_o say_v will_n if_o follow_v bring_v corruption_n and_o impurity_n into_o church_n for_o he_o must_v abandon_v all_o the_o rule_n of_o charity_n that_o can_v hope_v this_o of_o multitude_n of_o young_a person_n that_o grow_v up_o among_o we_o who_o yet_o if_o they_o be_v present_o admit_v to_o full_a communion_n we_o shall_v soon_o feel_v a_o change_n in_o the_o management_n of_o churchâ—affairs_n and_o the_o interest_n of_o formality_n and_o common_a profession_n will_v soon_o be_v advance_v above_o the_o interest_n of_o the_o power_n of_o godliness_n whether_o we_o be_v in_o the_o right_n in_o this_o matter_n of_o strictness_n as_o to_o full_a communion_n scripture_n and_o reason_n must_v determine_v and_o be_v this_o the_o place_n of_o that_o dispute_n we_o have_v much_o to_o say_v in_o it_o and_o to_o be_v sure_a the_o practice_n of_o these_o church_n hitherto_o have_v be_v for_o it_o as_o also_o their_o profession_n in_o the_o synod_n in_o 1648._o platform_n of_o discipline_n cap._n 12._o sect._n 7._o hence_o to_o depart_v from_o that_o will_v be_v a_o real_a departure_n from_o our_o former_a practice_n and_o profession_n whereas_o to_o enlarge_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o all_o that_o stand_v in_o the_o church_n be_v but_o a_o progress_n to_o that_o practice_n that_o suit_v with_o our_o profession_n but_o certain_a it_o be_v that_o we_o be_v and_o stand_v for_o the_o purity_n of_o the_o church_n when_o as_o we_o stand_v for_o such_o qualification_n as_o we_o do_v in_o those_o we_o will_v admit_v to_o full_a communion_n and_o do_v withstand_v those_o notion_n and_o reason_n that_o will_v infer_v a_o laxness_n therein_o which_o have_v apparent_a peril_n in_o it_o but_o we_o can_v hardly_o imagine_v what_o hurt_v it_o will_v do_v or_o what_o danger_n of_o spoil_v the_o church_n there_o be_v in_o it_o for_o poor_a child_n to_o be_v take_v within_o the_o verge_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o wing_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o ordinance_n and_o to_o be_v under_o church-care_n and_o discipline_n and_o government_n for_o their_o soul_n good_a to_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o initiation_n and_o education_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o consequent_o to_o have_v baptism_n which_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o initiation_n when_o as_o they_o shall_v not_o
the_o other_o with_o the_o term_n of_o member_n according_a to_o scripture_n or_o according_a to_o christ_n ordinance_n if_o it_o be_v grant_v that_o such_o member_n be_v the_o subject_n of_o baptism_n than_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o this_o point_n be_v grant_v as_o for_o what_o be_v here_o say_v to_o that_o proposition_n if_o this_o term_n according_a to_o scripture_n be_v not_o omit_v but_o take_v in_o viz._n that_o according_a to_o scripture_n the_o covenant_n be_v different_o administer_v in_o different_a time_n of_o the_o church_n which_o different_a manner_n of_o administration_n be_v here_o pag._n 22._o and_o in_o the_o ten_o position_n which_o be_v here_o cite_v say_v to_o be_v this_o in_o sum_n that_o the_o church_n be_v once_o in_o family_n or_o domestical_a under_o moses_n national_a and_o under_o christ_n congregational_n ans._n what_o if_o all_o this_o be_v grant_v be_v there_o any_o thing_n in_o this_o for_o we_o will_v willing_o keep_v to_o the_o question_n to_o overthrow_v the_o synod_n fâ—â—st_v proposition_n or_o their_o say_n that_o be_v here_o under_o debate_n viz._n that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o main_a ground_n of_o title_n to_o baptism_n it_o seem_v nothing_o at_o all_o for_o if_o according_a to_o scripture_n there_o have_v be_v different_a administration_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o different_a time_n and_o that_o the_o church_n be_v heretofore_o domestical_a afterward_o national_a and_o now_o congregational_a all_o this_o may_v be_v grant_v and_o yet_o it_o may_v be_v a_o truth_n that_o be_v here_o say_v that_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n be_v the_o main_a ground_n of_o title_n to_o baptism_n that_o these_o child_n be_v in_o covenant_n the_o synod_n say_v appear_v 1._o because_o if_o the_o parent_n be_v in_o covenant_n the_o child_n be_v so_o also_o but_o the_o parent_n in_o question_n be_v in_o covenant_n to_o this_o the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o if_o this_o be_v in_o covenant_n be_v understand_v of_o be_v in_o it_o according_a to_o gâ—spel-rules_n and_o that_o the_o child_n be_v in_o covenant_n be_v understand_v of_o infant_n child_n or_o child_n in_o minority_n than_o the_o proposition_n be_v true_a or_o else_o it_o must_v be_v deny_v ans._n concern_v the_o one_o of_o these_o particular_n viz._n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n according_a to_o gospel-rule_n it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o it_o be_v so_o to_o be_v understand_v and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v imagine_v that_o the_o synod_n mean_v it_o any_o otherwise_o but_o for_o the_o other_o particular_a that_o the_o child_n in_o covenant_n be_v only_a infant_n or_o child_n in_o minority_n this_o be_v a_o limitation_n that_o need_v further_a consideration_n and_o will_v be_v speak_v to_o afterward_o whereas_o the_o synod_n to_o prove_v the_o parent_n in_o question_n to_o be_v in_o covenant_n allege_v that_o they_o be_v once_o in_o covenant_n and_o never_o since_o discovenant_v the_o former_a because_o else_o they_o have_v not_o warrantable_o be_v baptise_a and_o the_o latter_a because_o they_o have_v not_o in_o any_o way_n of_o god_n be_v discovenant_v cast_v out_o or_o cut_v off_o from_o their_o covenant-relation_n the_o reverend_a author_n in_o his_o answer_n hereunto_o say_v that_o they_o be_v discovenant_v by_o not_o perform_v that_o whereunto_o they_o be_v engage_v by_o the_o covenant_n for_o which_o he_o allege_v rom._n 2.25_o ans._n 1._o it_o seem_v then_o the_o covenant_n do_v not_o only_o reach_v unto_o child_n during_o their_o minority_n but_o also_o when_o they_o be_v become_v adult_n for_o else_o how_o can_v they_o when_o adult_a be_v faulty_a in_o not_o perform_v that_o whereunto_o the_o covenant_n engage_v can_v man_n be_v faulty_a for_o not_o perform_v covenant-engagement_n when_o they_o be_v not_o comprehend_v in_o the_o covenant_n this_o seem_v not_o possible_a therefore_o here_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o concâ—ssion_n that_o the_o covenant_n reach_v further_a than_o to_o infancy_n or_o minority_n and_o that_o they_o who_o be_v in_o covenant_n in_o their_o infancy_n by_o mean_n of_o their_o parent_n covenant_v for_o they_o be_v also_o in_o that_o covenant_n when_o they_o be_v become_v adult_n 2._o nor_o be_v it_o clear_a that_o mâ—ns_v not_o perform_v what_o the_o covenant_n require_v of_o they_o do_v forthwith_o discovenant_v they_o if_o by_o be_v discovenant_v be_v mean_v their_o not_o be_v in_o that_o church-relation_n in_o which_o they_o be_v before_o for_o god_n be_v wont_a to_o be_v patient_a and_o long-suffering_a towards_o they_o that_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o he_o and_o to_o bear_v with_o they_o long_o afore_o be_v give_v they_o a_o bill_n of_o divorce_n as_o it_o be_v say_v in_o nehem._n 9.30_o many_o year_n do_v thou_o forbear_v they_o and_o therefore_o it_o may_v seem_v more_o rigour_n than_o the_o word_n allow_v to_o think_v or_o say_v that_o such_o as_o be_v in_o covenant_n with_o god_n in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n be_v forthwith_o fall_v out_o of_o that_o estate_n if_o they_o do_v not_o as_o soon_o as_o ever_o they_o become_v adult_n perform_v what_o that_o covenant_n require_v the_o long-suffering_a of_o god_n will_v not_o allow_v we_o so_o to_o judge_v unless_o we_o have_v more_o clear_a warrant_n for_o such_o judgement_n nor_o do_v the_o text_n allege_v viz._n rom._n 2_o 25._o prove_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o when_o it_o be_v there_o say_v thy_o circumcision_n be_v make_v uncircumcision_n the_o meaning_n be_v it_o shall_v not_o profit_v thou_o at_o all_o in_o such_o a_o state_n as_o to_o eternal_a benefit_n and_o so_o baptism_n may_v be_v say_v in_o such_o case_n to_o be_v no_o baptism_n and_o covenant_n and_o church-relation_n to_o be_v no_o covenant_n no_o church-relation_n i._n e._n not_o to_o yield_v any_o such_o profit_n in_o that_o estate_n but_o yet_o if_o such_o shall_v afterward_o be_v bring_v to_o repentance_n and_o new-obedience_n will_v any_o say_v that_o now_o such_o person_n must_v be_v circumcise_v again_o or_o baptize_v again_o as_o if_o the_o former_a in_o respect_n of_o the_o external_a act_n be_v become_v null_n we_o suppose_v this_o can_v not_o be_v say_v just_o though_o in_o respect_n of_o any_o profit_n to_o their_o soul_n their_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n in_o their_o former_a estate_n be_v as_o none_o and_o so_o we_o may_v say_v their_o covenant_n and_o church_n relation_n be_v as_o none_o in_o respect_n of_o any_o spiritual_a save_a benefit_n to_o their_o soul_n if_o they_o perform_v not_o what_o the_o covenant_n bind_v they_o unto_o and_o yet_o it_o can_v no_o more_o be_v say_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o their_o church-relation_n and_o external_a visible_a state_n they_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n or_o not_o in_o the_o covenant_n then_o in_o the_o other_o particular_n it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o circumcise_v or_o not_o baptize_v it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n and_o in_o the_o church_n in_o respect_n of_o external_a state_n and_o another_o thing_n to_o enjoy_v all_o the_o spiritual_a and_o eternal_a benefit_n of_o such_o a_o relation_n and_o though_o this_o latter_a be_v the_o portion_n of_o none_o but_o such_o as_o come_v to_o be_v true_o regenerate_v yet_o the_o other_o be_v and_o so_o continue_v the_o right_a of_o all_o that_o have_v once_o have_v it_o until_o in_o some_o way_n of_o god_n they_o be_v cut_v off_o from_o it_o and_o so_o deprive_v thereof_o the_o synod_n have_v say_v that_o person_n once_o in_o covenant_n be_v not_o break_v off_o from_o it_o according_a to_o scripture_n sare_z for_o notorious_a sin_n and_o incorrigibleness_n therein_o which_o be_v not_o the_o case_n of_o these_o parent_n the_o reverend_a author_n answer_v that_o if_o they_o break_v off_o themselves_o by_o break_v the_o covenant_n which_o be_v seal_v by_o baptism_n in_o their_o infancy_n or_o minority_n they_o thereby_o deprive_v themselves_o of_o the_o benefit_n and_o privilege_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o in_o such_o case_n be_v to_o be_v look_v at_o like_o those_o in_o 1_o joh._n 2.19_o ans._n if_o by_o break_v off_o themselves_o be_v mean_v no_o more_o but_o that_o they_o do_v this_o meritorious_o i._n e._n that_o by_o their_o sin_n they_o deserve_v to_o be_v break_v off_o than_o it_o may_v be_v grant_v that_o in_o this_o sense_n person_n may_v though_o not_o that_o these_o do_v break_v off_o themselves_o from_o their_o covenant-relation_n and_o so_o also_o may_v person_n that_o have_v be_v in_o full_a communion_n even_o these_o by_o their_o sin_n may_v thus_o break_v off_o themselves_o in_o which_o sense_n it_o be_v say_v hos._n 13.9_o o_o israel_n thou_o have_v destroy_v thyself_o i._n e._n that_o their_o sin_n be_v the_o procure_n or_o meritorious_a cause_n of_o their_o destruction_n but_o if_o hereby_o be_v mean_v that_o the_o person_n speak_v of_o do_v
appear_v by_o deut._n 26.17_o 18._o ans._n if_o so_o than_o they_o do_v every_o three_o year_n enter_v into_o a_o new_a membership_n for_o the_o reverend_a author_n conceive_v that_o what_o be_v say_v to_o be_v do_v in_o deut._n 26_o 17_o 18._o be_v do_v every_o three_o year_n as_o before_o â—_o 31_o but_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o same_o person_n or_o people_n may_v many_o a_o time_n enter_v into_o covenant_n or_o renew_v their_o covenant_n with_o god_n and_o yet_o not_o thereby_o enter_v into_o so_o many_o new_a membership_n it_o seem_v by_o psal._n 50.5_o where_o it_o be_v say_v they_o have_v make_v a_o covenant_n with_o i_o by_o sacrifice_n that_o so_o oft_o as_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v so_o oft_o there_o be_v a_o covenant_n make_v between_o god_n and_o they_o and_o yet_o it_o will_v not_o follow_v that_o at_o every_o time_n of_o sacrifice_v there_o be_v a_o enter_v into_o a_o new_a membership_n it_o may_v suffice_v to_o say_v as_o the_o synod_n do_v that_o at_o all_o such_o time_n there_o be_v a_o progress_n in_o memberly_n duty_n but_o why_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o the_o covenant_n in_o deut._n 26._o be_v enter_v into_o a_o new_a membership_n the_o reason_n render_v be_v this_o because_o they_o enter_v into_o the_o covenant_n personal_o and_o immediate_o not_o in_o and_o by_o their_o parent_n as_o they_o do_v in_o infancy_n gen._n 17.7_o and_o if_o covenant_v be_v the_o form_n of_o church-membership_a than_o a_o different_a form_n of_o covenant_v make_v a_o different_a kind_n of_o membership_n mediate_v and_o immediate_a covenant_v make_v mediate_v and_o immediate_a member_n ans._n but_o be_v this_o certain_a that_o a_o different_a way_n of_o covenant_v make_v a_o different_a kind_n of_o membership_n in_o gen._n 15._o there_o be_v covenant_v by_o diviâ—ing_v the_o heâ—feâ—_n the_o goâ—_n etc._n etc._n in_o the_o midst_n and_o pass_v between_o the_o piece_n or_o part_n and_o so_o in_o jer._n 34._o in_o gen._n 17._o there_o be_v covenant_v by_o silence_n and_o fall_v upon_o the_o face_n in_o nehem._n 9.38_o there_o be_v covenant_v by_o write_v and_o seal_v of_o it_o in_o 2_o chron._n 15._o by_o swear_v with_o a_o loud_a voice_n and_o by_o engage_v that_o whosoever_o shall_v not_o do_v as_o be_v there_o promise_v shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n here_o we_o see_v be_v various_a way_n of_o covenant_v but_o shall_v we_o say_v that_o these_o do_v infer_v divers_a kind_n of_o membership_n then_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o if_o the_o same_o person_n or_o people_n shall_v divers_a time_n enter_v into_o covenant_n or_o renew_v their_o covenant_n and_o this_o sometime_o in_o one_o of_o these_o way_n and_o sometime_o in_o another_o if_o a_o different_a form_n of_o covenant_v do_v make_v a_o different_a kind_n of_o membership_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o the_o same_o person_n and_o people_n may_v many_o time_n over_o again_z and_o again_o enter_v into_o a_o new_a kinâ—_n of_o membership_n which_o we_o suppose_v none_o will_v affirm_v and_o therefore_o this_o that_o be_v here_o say_v will_v not_o hold_v the_o thing_n for_o essence_n and_o kind_a may_v be_v the_o same_o when_o the_o way_n and_o manner_n of_o do_v may_v be_v various_a moreover_o covenant_v take_v for_o our_o act_n in_o make_v or_o renew_v the_o covenant_n be_v not_o the_o form_n of_o membership_n this_o be_v but_o the_o instrumental_a efficient_a but_o covenant-interest_n or_o to_o be_v in_o covenant_n be_v the_o formalis_fw-la ratio_fw-la of_o membership_n that_o be_v it_o which_o the_o synod_n affirm_v pag._n 24._o and_o that_o be_v the_o immediate_a actual_a and_o proper_a portion_n of_o the_o child_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o parent_n the_o three_o argument_n of_o the_o synod_n be_v from_o the_o relation_n of_o bear_a servant_n and_o subject_n by_o which_o the_o scripture_n sâ—â—s_v forth_o the_o state_n of_o child_n in_o the_o church_n levit._n 25_o 41_o 42._o ezek._n 37.25_o which_o relation_n as_o all_o man_n know_v do_v noâ—â—easâ—_n with_o infancy_n but_o do_v continue_v in_o adult_n age_n and_o â—ince_n it_o also_o follow_v that_o one_o special_a end_n of_o membership_n receive_v in_o infancy_n be_v to_o leave_v person_n under_o engagement_n to_o service_n and_o subjection_n to_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n when_o growâ—_n up_o etc._n etc._n pag._n 25_o 26._o the_o answer_n to_o this_o be_v that_o the_o one_o of_o these_o text_n be_v typical_a figure_v the_o tâ—â—e_n of_o grace_n whereby_o now_o christ_n have_v free_v we_o from_o the_o servitude_n of_o sin_n and_o satan_n etc._n etc._n the_o other_o text_n be_v a_o prophecy_n of_o the_o call_n of_o the_o elect_a nation_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o of_o the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n under_o the_o new_a jerusalem_n and_o therefore_o these_o do_v neither_o of_o they_o suit_n the_o thing_n in_o question_n ans._n but_o for_o the_o present_a nothing_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a but_o they_o may_v be_v suitable_a yet_o if_o the_o thing_n itself_o for_o which_o those_o 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their_o membership_n do_v not_o cease_v with_o their_o infancy_n deny_v that_o their_o membership_n continue_v when_o adult_n and_o then_o it_o must_v be_v say_v either_o that_o their_o state_n in_o infancy_n be_v not_o as_o bear_v servant_n and_o subject_n or_o that_o such_o relation_n do_v cease_v with_o infancy_n but_o for_o the_o reverend_a author_n he_o express_o grant_v that_o one_o special_a end_n of_o membership_n receive_v in_o infancy_n be_v to_o leave_v person_n under_o engagement_n to_o service_n and_o subjection_n to_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n when_o grow_v up_o when_o they_o be_v fit_a for_o it_o and_o have_v most_o need_v of_o it_o pag_n 43._o which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o that_o be_v here_o affirm_v by_o the_o synod_n and_o do_v not_o that_o hence_o follow_v which_o the_o synod_n infer_v that_o therefore_o their_o membership_n do_v not_o cease_v with_o infancy_n but_o do_v still_o continue_v it_o seem_v to_o follow_v unavoidable_o for_o how_o can_v they_o when_o 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than_o the_o servant_n since_o in_o the_o cafe_z allege_v the_o servant_n may_v trade_v under_o the_o freeman_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n may_v we_o suppose_v none_o will_v say_v this_o and_o therefore_o in_o this_o the_o comparison_n do_v not_o suit_v the_o case_n in_o hand_n the_o order_n and_o privilege_n of_o corporation_n be_v various_a according_a to_o the_o tenor_n of_o their_o several_a charter_n but_o what_o the_o charter_n of_o the_o church_n be_v we_o know_v viz._n that_o in_o gen._n 17._o it_o take_v in_o child_n into_o the_o church_n with_o their_o parent_n and_o do_v not_o allow_v they_o to_o be_v put_v out_o till_o censurable_a iniquity_n do_v appear_v 2._o if_o in_o some_o corporation_n one_o that_o be_v freeborn_a do_v lose_v his_o privilege_n when_o he_o become_v adult_n if_o he_o do_v not_o then_o enter_v personal_o into_o the_o engagement_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o certain_a that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o all_o sure_o no_o such_o thing_n be_v say_v of_o paul_n who_o 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