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A68236	The third booke of commentaries vpon the Apostles Creede contayning the blasphemous positions of Iesuites and other later Romanists, concerning the authoritie of their Church: manifestly prouing that whosoeuer yeelds such absolute beleefe vnto it as these men exact, doth beleeue it better then Gods word, his Sonne, his prophets, Euangelists, or Apostles, or rather truly beeleeues no part of their writings or any article in this Creede. Continued by Thomas Iackson B. of Diuinitie and fellow of Corpus Christi College in Oxford.; Commentaries upon the Apostles Creed. Book 3	Jackson, Thomas, 1579-1640.	1614 (1614)	STC 14315; ESTC S107489	337,354	346

his steed Peter the Scriptures tell vs was to follow Christ but as they pretend left Pope Linus in his place so hath euery Pope his successor since that time Yet these latter mightily faile in not nominating others whiles they themselues are liuing and visible stones as Christ without question did Saint Peter whiles conuersant with the faithfull in the flesh and Peter Linus in his lifetime 20. But howsoeuer they must of necessitie either make Peter Linus and their successors but one ioint permanent foundation and so the Popes should not bee builded vppon the foundation of the Prophets and the Apostles but rather Christs other Apostles vpon them vpon whom likewise all the faithfull since the Apostles time should be immediatly built Or if they doe not make Peter and the Popes one ioint vnseparable foundation they must admit as many seuerall foundations as Popes so as the euerlasting Rocke whereon the Church is built could not be truly said one and the same but by a perpetuall equiualency of alteration or succession as we say corruptible elements fire or water or candles remaine one and the same because as one part consumes another as good comes in the place This glorious aedifice as hath been obserued stands only by faith or firme adherence to the foundation and by the Aduersaries owne confession to disclaime the authority of the present Romish Church or Pope in points of faith is an heresie or Apostasie of the same nature as if a man had renounced Peter for his supreame head and this all one as if he had cut himselfe of from being a member of Christ Wherefore in respect of vs that are now to be edified the authority of this present Pope is equiuale ●t to Christs our adherence to the one in points of faith and manners must be such as it should haue been to the other had we liued in the dayes of his visible conuersation in the world Finally CHRIST Saint Peter and his successors in regiment of the Church militant here on earth differ by the Roman account no otherwise then Romulus Numa Ancus c. Romulus was first Founder of that kingdome but least other of kings of the same ranke and order he was onely his dignity after his departure was acknowledged greater in another world because as his people were made to beleeue be ascended aliue into heauen as a God Much better might the Romanist deriue his Psewdocatholique Romane faith from Romulus the first builder of that great City that sometimes ruleà ouer the Kings of the earth then from Christ who did erect a kingdome indeed but not of this world wherein none was to succeed him because he remaines Yeasterday to day the same for euer Whence the Prophet sayth this kingdome shall neuer be destroied or giuen to another people but shall breake and destroy all former kingdomes and it selfe stand for euer For any especially of that nation whose former kings had put this immortall King to death concerning the flesh to enstile themselues Rockes and foundation of this euerlasting Empire or absolute spirituall Monarchies in this place doth euidently shew they are the feete of that image most of which hath been as shall be broken to peeces by that stone cut without hands out of the Mountaine vntill it become like the chaffe of the summer flowers carried away with the winde and no place bee found for them or as the Apostle interprets the Prophet the Lord shall consume them with the spirit of his mouth and shall abolish them with the brightnesse of his comming 21. Would the Iesuite then know wherein he and his Latian Lord God must take after Saint Peter Me thinks their formal acknowledgement of that generall principle Christ manifested in the flesh made the headstone in the corner compared with their late mentioned Apostacy in seeking to lay another foundation was liuely resembled if not mystically prefigured by Saint Peter faith immediatly after his glorious confession eclipsed by interposition of such earthly conceits as perpetually darken their mindes For vpon our Sauiours declaration what bodily calamity what ignominy reproach should at Ierusalem shortly after befall the Rocke it selfe whereupon that Church against which hee had now sayd the gates of hell should neuer preuaile was founded Peter as Saint Mathew sayth tooke his Master aside and friendly checks him as if he had forgotten his former promise Maister be good to your selfe this shall not be vnto you As if he had sayd if the gates of hell shall not preuaile against your Church or vs your poore Disciples I hope you are able to priuiledge your owne person from such disgrace and scorne as none but they can intend against you So carnally did this great Apostle vpon ignorance conceit Christs spirituall promise as the papacy vpon habituall or affected error doth to this present day For one principall argument most vsuall in the mouthes and pennes of that great Heads chiefe disciples to proue the Romish the only Church vnto which that glorious promise was made or at least hath been perpetually performed is because no temporall or secular power hath euer beene able though many wicked Potentates Kings and Emperors such titles they giue to all their enemies haue attempted either to deface her externall pompe state and splendor or so to vse the Popes or Cardinalls or other of her principall and dearest children as the Iewes did our Sauiour Christ and his Disciples They are of the world and therefore speake they of the world and the world heareth them But could they vnto any child of God more plainly proue themselues heires to that checke giuen by our Sauiour to Saint Peter Goe behinde me Satans ye are an offence because ye vnderstand not the things that are of God but the things that are of men Could they more euidently demonstrate the Pope to be that man of sin that must be inducted to the Church of God by Satan 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the chiefe aduersary or accuser he himself bearing the name of aduersary likewise in his title 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a second foundation in shew subordinate in deede and consequence quite contrary to that which the Prophets and Apostles haue laide eternally priuiledged if wee may beleeue his followers from those spurnings of men from which the pretious stone of Syon was not exempted 22. To collect the summe of late Romanists comments vpon their Churches supposed fundamentall Charter Their confession of Christ come in the flesh and made head stone in the corner though conceiued in forme of words orthodoxal enough proues only this but disabundantly to all the world that the Pope their supreame head sits in the Temple of God whose circumference in respect of men who cannot search other mens hearts is defined by this confession Their attributing the title of Rocks or fun damentall supportance of that spirituall house vnto this head proclaimes vnto all the world that hee

Gods working in miracles effected by his owne immediate peculiar power without the coagencie of any inferiour or created cause he may resolue of himselfe alone not consulting his Cardinals Bishops or others This power and libertie the Trent Councell it selfe seemes to giue vnto the Pope as it were for an vp-shot to all the fooles thunderbolts they had let slie before And least any man should thinke this absolute acknowledgement of the Popes plenarie power to be a Counsell rather then a necessarie precept The Cathechisme published by the Trent Councels authoritie hath inserted amongst the Articles of faith That the present Pope is the sole visible head of the whole Christian Church though Christ the inuisible The meaning of which if I mistake not is this That the Pope concerning the points aboue mentioned hath as absolute power in Christs absence as Christ himselfe should haue were he present or shall haue in that day of finall iudgement wherein if these mens positions bee true he shall haue nothing to doe in matters of saith but onely to ratisie what the Pope hath defined who must not be called to any account of his Spirituall as Kings and Monarchs must be for their Temporall Stewardships nor shall it be said to him as it must be to some of them Well done thou good and faithfull Seruant For such men onely by our aduersaries Doctrine doe well as might haue done ill but the Pope liue as hee list cannot possibly doe a misse in determining matters of Faith which are of all that are of greatest difficultie and consequence 14 When first I reade Iosephus Acoste I much wondred to see a man otherwise of an ingenuous spirit and of partes so excellent so zealous withall for the Popes Supremacie But now I perceiue the reason was all priuate Catechismes were to bee conformed vnto that publique one authorized by the Councell and Pope Amongst other contents of that Article of the Catholique Church almost quite omitted in the former Indian Catechismes Acostaes aduise is to haue this inserted as an essentiall part That the Pope is head of the Catholique Church Christs Vicar on earth indued with his plenarie power to whom all other Christians Kings and Princes not excepted owe obedience These allegations may testifie our sinceritie in proposing the state of the question and points of difference betwixt vs gathered not out of one or two but the generall agreement of best Romish Writers and whereunto Valentian were hee aliue would willingly subscribe For he as since I haue obserued proposeth the title of his maine Controuersie concerning the Churches authoritie in tearmes aequiualent to those I vsed Lib. 2. Section 1. Cap. 3. and Lib. 1. Parag. Vlt. SECT II. The first branch of Romish blasphemie in preferring humane authoritie before Diuine AGainst these late recited and infinite other aequiualent assertions frequent in their publique determinations and best priuate Writers our Writers vsually obiect If the Church be iudge of Scriptures her authoritie must be aboue the Scriptures If the sense of Scripture without the Church or Popes asseueration or proposall be not authentique nor apt to beget most firme beleefe then the word of God must receiue strength and authoritie from the word of man Some Romish Writers grant the inference with this restraint In respect of vs and yet wipe their mouthes with the whore in the Prouerbe as if they had neither commited Idolatrie nor spoken blasphemie But Bellarmine was too cunning a Baude to expose his mothers foule face to publique view without more artificiall painting CHAP. I. Bellarmines Reply to the maine obiection iointly vrged by all Reformed Churches against the Romish the Equiuocation which hee sought in the obiection apparently found in his Reply 1 THE former argument howsoeuer much esteemed by such as bring it yet in Bellarmines iudgment is very weake and as hee suspects sicke of his owne disease Totum in aequiuocatione versatur The aequiuocation he seeketh to vnfold with this distinction The former speeches may admit a double sence First their meaning may bee that the Church doth iudge whether that which the Scriptures teach be true or false Or Secōdly This sure foundation of faith being first laid The words of Scripture are most infallible and true The Church doth iudge which is the true interpretation or meaning of them This distinction he applieth thus The former obiectuns were pertinent if we held the Pope or Councell to determine of Scriptures in the former sence but taking our right meaning they are meere calumnies For we affirme the Church to iudge Scriptures onely in the later and so to iudge them doth not set the Church or Pope aboue Scriptures but aboue the iudgment of priuate men Nor doth the Church by this assertion become a Iudge of Scriptures truth but of priuate mens vnderstanding Neither will it hence follow that the word of God recetueth strength from the word of man but priuate mens knowledge may and doth receiue strength and infallibilitie from the Church Finally the Scripture or Word of God as Bellarmine thinkes is neither more true or certaine because it is expounded by the Church but euerie mans opinion is more true and stable when it is confirmed by the Churches exposition or decision Hee hath said as much as the whole Councell of Trent could haue said for themselues But let vs see if this be enough 2 A priuate mans opinion saith Bellarmine is truer when it is confirmed by the Church If we had only an opinion of the truth or sence of Scriptures the consent of others especially men skilfull in such maters would indeede much confirme vs for all opinions or vncertaine perswasions receiue increase of strength from addition of probabilities But his words are more generall and concerne not onely vncertaine but all perswasions that a faithfull man in this life can haue of Gods Word at least of those writings which wee and they acknowledge for such and the marke he aimes at is That no perswasion in diuine matters can be certaine without the Churches confirmation as hee expressely addeth in his answere to the next argument 3 If the Reader will be attentiue hee shall easily perceiue that not our Writers obiections but Bella●mines answere is tainted with aequiuocation For this speech of his The Church doth iudge whether that which the Scriptures teach be true or false hath a double and doubtfull sence It may be meant either Of Scriptures taken indefinitly or indeterminately for that which God hath spoken whatsoeuer that be Of those particular Scriptures which wee and they acknowledge or any determinate written or vnwritten precepts questionable whether they were from God or no. 4 If we speake of Scriptures in the former sence Bellarmines answere is true For the Romish Church doth not take vpon her to iudge whether that which is supposed or acknowledged by all for Gods word be most true in it proper natiue but

Waters whereon the great Whoore sits From what historie therefore doe they beleeue the Pope is Peters successour from historie canonicall or diuine no Secular Monkish or Ecclesiasticall at the best vpon which the best faith that can be founded is but humane and their professed villanie in putting in and out whatsoeuer they please into what writing soeuer Gods word only excepted makes it more then doubtfull whether many ancient Writers did euer intimate any such estimate of the Romish Church as is now fathered vpon them or rather this foule iniquitie late reuealed whilest some haue beene taken in the manner hath beene long time concealed as a mysterie of the Romish state But they beleeue not this succession from expresse written historie but from Tradition partly From Tradition of whom Of men what men Men obnoxious to error and parties in this present controuersie yet neither partiall nor erroneous while they speake ex Cathedra saith the Iesuit But who shall assure vs what they haue spoken ex Cathedra concerning this point The Councels What Councels Councels assembled by the Pope Councels of men for the most part as ill qualified as carnally minded and so palpably carried away with faction that to attribute any diuine authoritie vnto them were to blaspheme the holy Spirit Councels which the Papists themselues acknowledge not of sufficient authoritie vnlesse they follow the Popes instructions from whom likewise they must receiue their approbation The Pope must assure vs the Councell which perhaps elected him reiecting a Competitor euery way more sufficient doth not erre But that the Pope is lawfully elected that so elected he cannot erre in this assertion who shall assure vs hee himselfe or h●s Predecessors This then is the last resolution of our faith if it relie vpon the Church 8 We must absolutely beleeue euery Pope in his owne cause First that he himselfe is secondly that all his Predecessors vp to Saint Peter were infallible When as many of them within these few hundred years late past by their owne followers confession were such as whatsoeuer must deriue it pedigree from them may iustly be suspected to haue first descended from the father of lies such as not speaking ex Cathedra were so far from the esteeme of absolute infallibility that such as knew them best did trust them least in matters of saecular commodity and if they were found vnfaithfull in the wicked Mammon who will trust them in the true Not Papists themselues vnlesse they speake ex Cathedra Then belike our Sauiour did not foresee this exception from his generall r●ie or Iudas by this knacke might haue proued himselfe or any other knaue as faithfull a Pastor as S. Peter 9 But if a Pope shall teach ex Cathedra that he is Peters lawfull successor and therefore of diuine infallible authority in expounding all the former places wee must notwithstanding our Sauiours caueat belieue him Why Because it must bee supposed he hath diuine testimony for this assertion As what either diuine history diuine tradition or diuine reuelation Diuine history thy disclaime nor can impudency it selfe pretend it It may bee hee hath the perpetuall traditions of his predecessors But here againe wee demaund what diuine assurance they can bring forth that euery Pope from Saint Peter downewards did giue expresse cathedrall testimony to this perpetuall succession in like authority Suppose what no Iesuite dare auouch vnlesse hee first consult his superiours whether hee must not of necessity say so for maintenance of the Popes dignity that this assertion had beene expresly conueyed from Saint Peter to the present Pope without interruption yet if any one of them did receiue it from his predecessor hauing it but as a priuate man or vpon his honesty hee might erre in deliuering it to his successor so might the third in belieuing him For no beliefe can bee more certain then it proper obiect or immediate ground If That bee fallible the beliefe must needs be vncertaine obnoxious to error and at the best humane No better is the Popes testimony vnles giuen ex Cathedra and no better is the ground of his owne beliefe of what his Predecessors told him vnlesse they tolde it him so speaking Wherfore though this present Pope should teach ex Cathedra viua voce that hee is Peters lawfull successor yet vnlesse hee can proue that none of his predecessors did euer neglect so to auouch the same truth it is euident that hee speakes more then hee can possibly know by any diuine testimony either of history or vnwritten tradition It is euident againe hee bindes vs to beleeue that by diuine faith which hee cannot possibly know himselfe but onely by faith humane For the onely ground of his assertion is this supposed perpetuall tradition and this is but humane vnlesse it bee perpetually deliuered ex Cathedra No is there any other meanes possible vnder the sunne nay either in heauen or earth for to know matters of this nature forepast but either the testimonie of others that haue gone before vs who either were themselues or tooke their relations vpon trust from such as were present when the things related were acted or else by reuelation from him who was before all times and is a present spectatour an eye witnesse of euery action 10 Our knowledge of matters forepast by the former means though Popes themselues be the relators vnlesse their relation bee cathedrall as hath been proued are but humane and fallible Things known by immediate reuelation from God are most certaine because the immediate Relator is most infallible Doth the Pope by this meanes know what his Predecessors or Saint Peter thought concerning this perpetuall succession or generally all matters concerning this point long since forepast He may as easily tell vs what any of his successors shall doe or say an hundred yeers hence And thus much if this present Pope will vndertake the Christian people then liuing may safely belieue what the Pope then being shall say of this or both of their predecessors But to belieue man as an infallible prophet of things past which cannot approue himselfe a true foreteller of things to come were to inuert Gods ordinance and mocke his word For it hath been a perpetuall law of God that no mā should euer be belieued more then man or by any faith more then humane though in matters present whereof hee might haue beene an eye witnesse vnlesse he shewed his participation of the diuine spirit by infallible praediction of things to come or euidencie of miracles fully answering to the prediction of Gods word already written as shall bee shewed at large in the next section 11 If wee put together the first elements of Romish faith as they haue beene sounded apart they make no such compound as the simple and ignorant Papists who in policy are taught to read this lesson as little children vntaught will by gessing at the whole in grosse without spelling the parts belieue they

ones dealing was I confesse most vnusual so was the others death yet a liuely document to cause all that should heare of it vntill the worlds end take heede of dispensing with the word of the Lord once made known vnto themselues vpon beliefe of more manifest reuelations or instructions by what meanes soeuer giuen to others either for recalling or restraining it Hence may the Reader discry aswell the height of our aduersaries folly as the depth of their impietie making their Churches authority which by their own acknowledgement cannot adde moe bookes to the number of the Canon already finished but onely iudge which are Canonicall which not farre greater then theirs was that did preach and write these very bookes which both wee and they acknowledge for Canonicall For the Prophets words were no rule of faith vntill examined and tried by the written word precedent or approued by the euent the Popes must be without triall examination or further approbation then his owne bare assertion CHAP. IX That the Church representatiue amongst the Iewes was for the most part the most corrupt Iudge of matters belonging to God and the reasons why it was so 1 BVt was the neglect of Moses law or this peoples inward corruption abounding for want of restraint by it the sole cause of their dulnesse in perceiuing or of their error in peruerting the things of Gods spirite This ouerflow of wickednesse serued as a tide to carry them but the continuall blasts of such vaine doctrine Templum Domini Templum Domini the Church the Church was like a boisterous wind to driue them headlong into those sands wherein they alwayes made shipwracke of faith and conscience The true Prophets neuer had greater opposites then the Priests and such as the Papists would haue to be the onely pillars yea the onely materiall parts of the Church representatiue Notwithstanding whom the Fathers had traduced for impostors or Sectaries and oftimes murdered as blasphemers of the Deity or turbulent members of the state the Children reuerenced as men of God and messengers of peace vnto the Church and common weale What was the reason of this diuersity in their iudgement or doth it argue more stedfast beliefe in posterity No but more experience of the euents foretolde oftimes not fulfilled vntill the Priests and other opposites either coaeuals or ancients to the Prophets were couered with confusion The childrens motiues to belieue particulars oppugned by their parents were greater and the impediments to withdraw their assent from them lesse That the children should thus brooke what their fathers most disliked in the Prophets is no more then wee may obserue in other Writers Few much reuerenecd in any faculty by posterity but had eager detractors in their flourishing dayes vicinity alwayes breeding enuy And euen of such as did not aemulate them for their skill nor would haue beene moued with enuy at their fame or glory they were not esteemed as they deserued being defrauded of due praise by such of the same profession as better pleased the predominant humor alwayes next in election to the lauish Magnificates of present times but vsually reiected by posterity when that particular humour euermore shorter liuth than the humorous beganne to change Thus in euery faculty haue those authors which most applied themselues to solidity of truth neglecting new-fangle trickes or flashes of extemporary wit endured in greatest request and best credit throughout all ages as meates strongest and most nourishing not most delicate are fittest for continuall diet What the Latine Poet said of his Poems euery Prophet might haue more truely applyed vnto his writinges Mox tibi si quis adhuc pretendat nubila liuor Occidet meriti post me referentur honores Though cloudes of enuy now may seeme thy splendent rayes to choake These with my ashes shall dissolue and vanish as their smoake VVhat whilest I breath sharpe censures blast when my leafe fals shall spring Thy fame must flourish as I fade graue honour forth shall bring It was a Methode most compendious for attaining such eternity of fame as the continuall succession of mortality can affoorde vs which is giuen by another Poet but in prose Dum viuas virtutem colas inuenias famam in Sepulchro Hee that hunts after vertue in his whole course of life shall bee sure to meete with fame after death but hardly sooner least of all could these Prophets bee much honoured in their owne Country whilest men of their owne profession carnally minded possessed the chiefe seates of dignity sometimes the best stay and pillars of faith in Gods Church most capable of that infallibility which their proud successors did more boast of Yet were euen these seducers alwayes willing to celebrate the memory of ancient prophets because the authority giuen to their sayings or reuerence shewed vnto their memory by the present people ouer whome they ruled did no way preiudice their owne dignity or estimation which rather increased by thus consorting with the multitude in their laudatoes of holy men deceased Thus from one and the same inordinate desire of honour and praise from men did contrary effects vsually spring in these masters of Israel The dead they reuerenced because they saw that acceptable vnto most likely to make way for their owne prayse amongst the people but feare lest the liuing Prophets should bee their coriuals in suites of glory whereunto their soules were wholly espoused did still exasperate and wher the malice of impatient mindes conscious of their own infirmities against their doctrine which could not be embraced but their estimation must be impaired their affections crossed their politique proiects dashed The higher in dignity the Priests and Rulers were the more it vexed them such poore men as the true Prophets for the most part were should take vpon them to direct the people Their obiections against those men of God their scurrilous taunts and bitter scoffes their odious 〈◊〉 forged to make way for bloudy persecutions are most liuely represented by the like practizes of the Romish Clergy continued almost as many yeares against the Albigeans Hu●sites and generally against al whom they suspect to haue any familiarity with the spirit whose testimony against them is as authentique as euident onely ouerborne through Gods permission in the worlds sight by preiudice of priuatenesse Thus when poore Michatah would not say as the King would haue him the politique State-Prophet Zidkiah sonne of Chenaanah gaue him a blow on the cheeke to beate an answere out to this demand When went the Spirit of the Lord from mee to thee As many proud Prelates would in like case reply vpon his poore brother that should crosse his opinion specially in a matter belonging though but a farre off vnto the State Sirrha I am your better know your place before whom and in what matter you speake Nor did Zidkiah onely but 400. more no otherwise discernable for false Prophets then by such triall as wee contend for as