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A86891 A second vindication of a disciplinary, anti-Erastian, orthodox free-admission to the Lords-Supper; or, The state of this controversie revised and proposed: for the fuller understanding of the most, as to the grounds whereon it stands; and more especially for the ease, and clearer proceeding of those, that shall write about it, whether for it, or against it. / By John Humfrey, min: of Froome. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1656 (1656) Wing H3710; Thomason E1641_2; ESTC R209066 63,290 161

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and_o trouble_n upon_o i_o will_v add_v therefore_o two_o or_o three_o reason_n more_o against_o this_o opinion_n 1._o a_o regenerate_a person_n that_o can_v examine_v himself_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n in_o the_o strict_a sense_n yet_o may_v be_v scandalous_a and_o for_o that_o scandal_n deserve_v exclusion_n as_o theodosius_n by_o ambrose_n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o because_o the_o apostle_n command_v a_o man_n to_o examine_v himself_o and_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n that_o a_o scandalous_a person_n be_v exclude_v but_o because_o the_o apostle_n command_v otherwhere_a let_v such_o be_v censure_v put_v away_o from_o yourselves_o such_o a_o person_n the_o same_o ground_n or_o reason_n that_o will_v exclude_v a_o unregenerate_a man_n will_v exclude_v the_o regenerate_a and_o no_o other_o from_o whence_o likewise_o i_o shall_v take_v away_o this_o argument_n from_o the_o hand_n of_o my_o proper_a opposer_n if_o the_o keep_n of_o person_n from_o the_o lord_n supper_n 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not_o in_o the_o discipline_n of_o christ_n or_o the_o scripture_n i_o have_v speak_v more_o at_o large_a in_o my_o rejoynd_a part_n 2._o sect_n 1._o see_v particular_o p_o 87._o &_o 149._o where_o have_v show_v that_o church-censure_n or_o excommunication_n do_v reserre_v to_o church-communion_n in_o general_n and_o consequent_o that_o a_o person_n excommunicate_a be_v cast_v out_o from_o every_o part_n thereof_o and_o so_o from_o all_o the_o ordinance_n as_o well_o as_o the_o sacrament_n i_o do_v humble_o offer_v this_o distinction_n of_o a_o real_a and_o relative_n exclusion_n a_o real_a exclusion_n be_v a_o exclusion_n of_o a_o man_n from_o a_o thing_n so_o that_o he_o can_v by_o any_o mean_n participate_v of_o the_o thing_n a_o relative_a exclusion_n be_v the_o exclusion_n of_o a_o man_n from_o his_o relation_n to_o a_o thing_n or_o his_o right_n of_o privilege_n in_o it_o whether_o he_o yet_o otherwise_o possess_v the_o thing_n or_o not_o now_o that_o which_o we_o admit_v heathen_a to_o in_o receive_v they_o into_o the_o church_n i_o think_v we_o cast_v they_o out_o from_o in_o excommunicate_v they_o but_o we_o admit_v not_o person_n to_o a_o actual_a hear_v the_o word_n or_o participate_v such_o ordinance_n as_o they_o do_v and_o may_v attend_v before_o but_o we_o admit_v they_o into_o a_o state_n and_o relation_n whereby_o the_o ordinance_n belong_v to_o they_o with_o a_o difference_n of_o privilege_n from_o the_o world_n and_o as_o they_o partake_v of_o they_o while_o they_o be_v without_o they_o be_v then_o indeed_o admit_v to_o the_o word_n and_o it_o may_v be_v prayer_n to_o bring_v they_o in_o as_o they_o ought_v yet_o neither_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o ordinance_n do_v belong_v to_o they_o by_o way_n of_o advantage_n rom._n 3.2_o or_o propriety_n as_o external_o in_o covenant_n in_o christ_n redeem_v sanctify_v etc._n etc._n as_o they_o do_v be_v member_n consequent_o therefore_o my_o thought_n be_v that_o though_o excommunication_n cut_v off_o a_o person_n relative_o from_o all_o the_o ordinance_n from_o one_o alike_o as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o in_o the_o sense_n now_o speak_v and_o do_v cut_v off_o a_o man_n real_o from_o that_o ordinance_n the_o actual_a participation_n whereof_o be_v peculiar_a to_o that_o relation_n as_o the_o sacrament_n yet_o this_o relative_n exclusion_n do_v not_o necessary_o infer_v a_o real_a exclusion_n of_o a_o man_n from_o those_o other_o ordinance_n as_o the_o word_n and_o prayer_n which_o may_v be_v partake_v of_o out_o of_o that_o relation_n and_o so_o here_o will_v arise_v that_o which_o may_v give_v contentment_n to_o wit_n that_o upon_o this_o it_o shall_v be_v leave_v in_o the_o church_n hand_n by_o way_n of_o mitigation_n to_o admit_v the_o excommunicate_a hereunto_o whether_o one_o or_o more_o or_o none_o of_o they_o as_o she_o see_v it_o fit_a to_o use_v severity_n or_o