187._o unto_o this_o m._n d._n shall_v first_o answer_v p._n 84_o of_o his_o bar_n though_o they_o transgress_v they_o do_v not_o renounce_v the_o covenant_n 2._o they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n till_o excommunicate_v well_o now_o let_v he_o come_v to_o speak_v about_o the_o sacrament_n p._n 131._o all_o who_o be_v visible_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n say_v he_o be_v visible_o out_o of_o covenant_n i_o pray_v mark_v it_o if_o natural_a man_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n how_o be_v they_o visible_o out_o of_o covenant_n if_o they_o be_v visible_o in_o christ_n how_o do_v they_o visible_o reject_v christ_n answ_n 1._o i_o have_v answer_v this_o cavil_n former_o by_o compare_v the_o prophet_n hosea_n with_o himself_o and_o with_o other_o scripture_n 2._o experience_n prove_v that_o some_o church-member_n do_v in_o the_o very_a letter_n reject_v the_o covenant_n instance_n in_o witch_n therefore_o my_o first_o assertion_n must_v be_v understand_v 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of_o a_o seal_a pardon_n here_o repeat_v again_o we_o grant_v as_o the_o pardon_n be_v offer_v to_o all_o conditional_o which_o general_n include_v every_o particular_a so_o it_o be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o all_o conditional_o whether_o they_o receive_v or_o no._n but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o their_o receive_v the_o sign_n who_o visible_o reject_v the_o thing_n signify_v as_o the_o promise_n so_o the_o sacrament_n be_v offer_v to_o all_o if_o they_o will_v believe_v and_o repent_v but_o unbeliever_n and_o impenitent_a person_n must_v neither_o partake_v of_o the_o promise_n nor_o of_o the_o seal_n m._n h._n p._n 188._o absolute_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v no_o man_n interest_n as_o m._n d._n vain_o imagine_v answ_n 1._o if_o it_o seal_v not_o the_o believer_n interest_n absolute_o than_o the_o best_a saint_n can_v take_v no_o solid_a comfort_n by_o the_o sacrament_n this_o vain_a conceit_n of_o m._n h._n like_o the_o philistines_n earth_n will_v stop_v up_o the_o well_o 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as_o a_o very_a considerable_a one_o how_o ever_o m._n h._n be_v please_v to_o overlook_v it_o m._n d._n the_o sacrament_n be_v god_n seal_n as_o relate_v to_o god_n covenant_n etc._n etc._n m._n h._n p._n 188._o a_o good_a confession_n then_o they_o be_v not_o god_n seal_n as_o relate_v unto_o faith_n and_o institute_v formal_o to_o ratify_v faith_n they_o be_v not_o seal_n of_o faith_n for_o righteousness_n etc._n etc._n answ_n be_v not_o this_o strange_a logic_n the_o sacrament_n be_v god_n seal_n as_o relate_v to_o the_o covenant_n therefore_o they_o be_v not_o god_n seal_n as_o relate_v unto_o faith_n he_o may_v as_o well_o argue_v isaac_n be_v abraham_n son_n as_o relate_v to_o the_o promise_n therefore_o he_o be_v not_o abraham_n son_n as_o relate_v to_o his_o faith_n or_o isaac_n be_v a_o child_n of_o the_o promise_n therefore_o he_o be_v not_o a_o child_n of_o faith_n i_o hope_v god_n faith_n and_o the_o covenant_n be_v not_o at_o such_o a_o distance_n but_o that_o each_o of_o they_o may_v have_v a_o propriety_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o seal_n beside_o if_o faith_n be_v a_o part_n of_o god_n covenant_n which_o have_v former_o be_v prove_v then_o the_o sacrament_n must_v needs_o be_v faith_n seal_v as_o well_o as_o the_o covenant_n seal_v be_v the_o covenant_n god_n covenant_n the_o sacrament_n god_n sacrament_n as_o the_o author_n thereof_o and_o be_v not_o my_o faith_n also_o god_n faith_n as_o the_o author_n thereof_o and_o why_o then_o may_v not_o god_n seal_v be_v my_o faith_n seal_n as_o well_o as_o the_o covenant_n seal_v we_o dispute_v not_o about_o formality_n but_o reality_n it_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v true_o faith_n seal_v as_o well_o as_o god_n and_o the_o covenant_n seal_v though_o in_o some_o respect_n it_o may_v be_v faith_n seal_v in_o which_o respect_n it_o be_v not_o god_n seal_n m._n d._n be_v not_o faith_n and_o every_o save_a grace_n promise_v in_o the_o new-covenant_n unless_o m._n h._n will_v turn_v pelagian_a m._n h._n ib._n we_o neither_o make_v faith_n the_o birth_n of_o man_n freewill_n nor_o yet_o to_o be_v give_v by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o man_n which_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v but_o to_o be_v god_n most_o free_a gift_n that_o proceed_v from_o election_n and_o discover_v the_o mysteric_a thereof_o answ_n 1._o i_o be_o glad_a m._n h._n be_v so_o orthodox_n as_o to_o acknowledge_v faith_n to_o be_v the_o birth_n not_o of_o man_n freewill_n but_o of_o god_n free_a elect_a grace_n this_o agreement_n in_o fundamental_o be_v comfortable_a though_o we_o differ_v in_o superstructure_n 2._o that_o in_o general_a faith_n and_o other_o grace_n be_v promise_v in_o the_o new-covenant_n be_v to_o i_o unquestionable_a for_o proof_n whereof_o i_o shall_v entreat_v m._n h._n to_o turn_v to_o jerem._n 31._o v._o 31_o 32_o 33._o 27._o see_v likewise_o ezek_n 36._o v._o 25_o 26_o 27._o and_o 1._o there_o you_o have_v a_o covenant_n 2._o a_o future_a covenant_n i_o will_v make_v a_o covenant_n as_o distinct_a upon_o that_o account_n from_o the_o eternal_a covenant_n make_v with_o christ_n which_o even_o then_o be_v a_o covenant_n past_a 3._o a_o new_a covenant_n and_o that_o either_o in_o opposition_n to_o the_o covenant_n of_o work_n make_v with_o adam_n or_o which_o be_v the_o proper_a scope_n of_o the_o place_n in_o contradistinction_n to_o the_o legal_a covenant_n make_v with_o the_o israelite_n at_o mount_n sinai_n compare_n ver_fw-la 32._o 4._o a_o covenant_n express_o make_v with_o man_n even_o with_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n and_o judah_n ver_fw-la 31_o and_o 33._o 5._o mark_v i_o pray_v what_o be_v give_v by_o virtue_n of_o this_o covenant_n thus_o make_v with_o man_n ver_fw-la 33._o i_o will_v put_v my_o law_n in_o their_o heart_n and_o write_v it_o in_o their_o mind_n etc._n etc._n and_o what_o
be_v a_o mere_a non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la in_o both_o branch_n true_o the_o covenant_n promise_n the_o sacrament_n seal_v the_o seal_n secure_v grace_n absolute_o only_a to_o the_o elect_n and_o effectual_o call_v better_o when_o i_o say_v initial_a grace_n be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n to_o the_o elect_v i_o will_v not_o here_o be_v mistake_v i_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o initial_a grace_n be_v seal_v to_o a_o elect_a person_n now_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n as_o progressive_a grace_n be_v seal_v to_o a_o person_n effectual_o call_v for_o illustration_n suppose_v paul_n before_o conversion_n receive_v the_o sacrament_n or_o be_v present_a at_o it_o etc._n etc._n i_o do_v not_o think_v the_o sacrament_n can_v assure_v paul_n though_o elect_v that_o he_o shall_v be_v convert_v but_o that_o it_o assure_v only_o in_o the_o general_n that_o all_o the_o elect_n shall_v be_v convert_v who_o indeed_o be_v the_o seed_n and_o the_o true_a israel_n rom_n 9_o v._o 6_o 7,8_o compare_n jer._n 31._o 33._o and_o this_o at_o present_a i_o can_v but_o assent_v to_o till_o i_o be_v convineed_a that_o the_o whole_a covenant_n of_o grace_n be_v not_o seal_v or_o confirm_v in_o the_o lord_n supper_n which_o in_o its_o very_a institution_n be_v a_o sign_n and_o seal_v of_o christ_n blood_n shed_v not_o only_o for_o the_o apostle_n but_o also_o for_o many_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o fin_n compare_v matth._n 26._o 28._o and_o luke_n 22._o 20._o and_o why_o that_o many_o shall_v not_o include_v all_o the_o elect_n as_o well_o as_o some_o of_o they_o i_o know_v not_o yet_o i_o will_v not_o be_v peremptory_a but_o shall_v very_o willing_o learn_v of_o mr._n h._n or_o any_o other_o that_o will_v inform_v i_o better_o but_o how_o do_v it_o thence_o follow_v that_o i_o must_v necessary_o take_v upon_o i_o to_o judge_v who_o be_v reprobate_n or_o else_o all_o must_v be_v admit_v mr._n h._n give_v the_o reason_n because_o man_n may_v be_v visible_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n 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since_o the_o ground_n of_o suspension_n be_v not_o simple_o man_n be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n but_o their_o actual_a unworthiness_n as_o visible_a whether_o they_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n or_o not_o now_o if_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o the_o conditional_a seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o i_o must_v either_o admit_v all_o or_o undertake_v to_o judge_v who_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n why_o shall_v it_o follow_v from_o the_o absolute_a seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n that_o all_o must_v be_v admit_v or_o i_o undertake_v to_o judge_v who_o be_v reprobate_n and_o this_o be_v the_o more_o considerable_a because_o the_o conditional_a covenant_n be_v seal_v to_o all_o not_o so_o the_o absolute_a covenant_n and_o if_o the_o conditional_a covenant_n seal_v to_o all_o be_v no_o ground_n for_o universal_a admission_n much_o less_o be_v the_o absolute_a covenant_n seal_v only_o to_o some_o church_n member_n a_o ground_n why_o all_o church-member_n shall_v be_v admit_v again_o if_o deny_v the_o sacrament_n to_o divers_a to_o who_o the_o covenant_n be_v seal_v conditional_o be_v no_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o i_o judge_v they_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n much_o less_o be_v the_o deny_v of_o the_o sacrament_n to_o any_o a_o argument_n that_o i_o judge_v they_o to_o be_v reprobate_n my_o suspension_n of_o any_o argue_v indeed_o that_o at_o present_a i_o judge_v such_o a_o person_n to_o be_v visible_o unworthy_a at_o least_o actual_o but_o it_o argue_v not_o necessary_o that_o i_o judge_v he_o to_o be_v in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n much_o less_o that_o i_o judge_v he_o to_o be_v a_o reprobate_n mr._n h._n ib._n have_v not_o the_o man_n so_o much_o contemn_v i_o he_o may_v have_v find_v how_o to_o distinguish_v between_o what_o come_v from_o god_n undertake_v with_o man_n or_o the_o conditional_a bosom_n of_o the_o covenant_n and_o what_o come_v from_o his_o undertake_n with_o christ_n or_o the_o free_a absolute_a bosom_n of_o election_n i_o perceive_v here_o the_o man_n be_v trouble_v as_o apprehend_v that_o i_o contemn_v he_o which_o be_v a_o fond_a and_o groundless_a jealousy_n i_o hate_v his_o error_n but_o i_o honour_v his_o person_n withal_o he_o twit_v i_o as_o not_o distinguish_v between_o what_o come_v from_o god_n undertake_v with_o man_n and_o what_o come_v from_o god_n undertake_v with_o christ_n i_o confess_v i_o be_o too_o dim-sighted_a and_o therefore_o shall_v willing_o be_v instruct_v by_o mr._n h._n or_o any_o other_o provide_v they_o will_v suffer_v i_o to_o see_v with_o my_o own_o eye_n and_o not_o take_v thing_n upon_o bare_a report_n and_o trust_v i_o shall_v therefore_o crave_v leave_n to_o distinguish_v between_o god_n undertake_v for_o man_n and_o god_n undertake_v with_o man_n for_o man_n god_n undertake_v with_o christ_n from_o eternity_n to_o call_v some_o effectuality_n with_o man_n god_n undertake_v two_o way_n 1._o with_o all_o at_o least_o to_o who_o the_o covenant_n be_v proclaim_v to_o give_v they_o salvation_n by_o christ_n upon_o condition_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o repentance_n 2._o with_o some_o that_o be_v the_o effectual_o call_v 1._o to_o give_v they_o perseverance_n in_o the_o condition_n which_o himself_o have_v already_o wrought_v in_o they_o partly_o of_o free_a grace_n and_o partly_o by_o virtue_n of_o the_o covenant_n make_v with_o christ_n on_o their_o behalf_n and_o 2._o in_o the_o issue_n to_o give_v they_o eternal_a salvation_n upon_o the_o forementioned_a account_n of_o christ_n and_o free_a grace_n and_o why_o god_n undertake_v for_o man_n may_v not_o be_v seal_v in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o well_o as_o god_n undertake_v with_o man_n as_o yet_o i_o must_v confess_v i_o see_v no_o convince_a reason_n m._n h._n ib._n i_o pray_v compare_v m._n d._n his_o three_o particular_a with_o this_o first_o the_o sacrament_n he_o say_v there_o be_v for_o nourishment_n and_o that_o i_o hope_v to_o the_o elect_a so_o p._n 147._o it_o seal_v not_o initial_a but_o progressive_a grace_n and_o yet_o here_o the_o covenant_n he_o count_v promise_v initial_a grace_n to_o the_o elect_a and_o the_o seal_n secure_v what_o be_v in_o the_o covenant_n so_o that_o what_o need_v i_o to_o dispute_v with_o mr._n drake_n when_o his_o own_o particular_n have_v a_o opponent_n and_o defendant_n among_o themselves_o etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o the_o sacrament_n seal_v not_o nourishment_n at_o present_a to_o the_o elect_v unregenerate_a in_o sensu_fw-la conjuncto_fw-la as_o the_o covenant_n promise_v not_o growth_n to_o they_o before_o they_o have_v life_n as_o the_o covenant_n promise_n so_o the_o sacrament_n seal_v orderly_o 1._o life_n and_o initial_a grace_n 2._o nourishment_n and_o growth_n m._n h._n therefore_o may_v have_v spare_v his_o parenthesis_n but_o that_o by_o it_o he_o hope_v to_o slur_v i_o
up_o of_o tare_n be_v a_o scripture-ordinance_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 5_o 7._o the_o term_n be_v seem_o but_o not_o real_o contradictory_n the_o tare_n must_v not_o be_v pluck_v up_o and_o the_o tare_n must_v be_v pluck_v up_o as_o other_o of_o the_o like_a nature_n god_n see_v no_o sin_n in_o his_o child_n and_o god_n see_v sin_n in_o his_o child_n the_o church_n be_v without_o spot_n and_o the_o church_n be_v spot_v etc._n etc._n all_o which_o be_v only_a seem_o contradictory_n because_o not_o understand_v under_o the_o same_o respect_n for_o the_o difficulty_n about_o pluck_v up_o or_o not_o pluck_v up_o the_o tare_n we_o can_v have_v a_o better_a reconciler_n than_o christ_n himself_o matth._n 13._o 29._o where_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o prohibition_n be_v the_o rule_n and_o bind_v of_o the_o prohibition_n from_o thence_o i_o gather_v 1._o that_o the_o prohibition_n be_v not_o absolute_a but_o with_o a_o caution_n lest_o you_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n also_o how_o ever_o mr._n humphrey_n page_z 89._o be_v please_v to_o judge_v of_o it_o and_o in_o the_o close_a to_o favour_v i_o with_o a_o jest_n 2_o lie_n that_o man_n visible_o wicked_a must_v be_v tolerate_v in_o the_o church_n rather_o than_o person_n visible_o godly_a shall_v be_v prejudice_v by_o rash_a and_o preposterous_a rigour_n against_o wicked_a church-member_n as_o it_o fall_v out_o by_o the_o anabaptist_n see_v calvin_n and_o pareus_n upon_o the_o place_n other_o think_v the_o tare_n in_o palestine_n be_v like_o the_o wheat_n whence_o there_o may_v be_v danger_n of_o eradicate_v the_o wheat_n with_o they_o but_o its_o evident_a the_o servant_n know_v the_o tare_n and_o be_v offend_v with_o they_o whether_o by_o servant_n you_o understand_v church-officer_n or_o other_o discern_a church-member_n whence_o it_o seem_v to_o follow_v that_o either_o some_o may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v tare_n who_o can_v juridical_o be_v prove_v to_o be_v so_o and_o such_o be_v the_o case_n of_o judas_n or_o though_o they_o can_v be_v prove_v to_o be_v such_o yet_o circumstance_n may_v so_o fall_v out_o that_o just_a severity_n against_o they_o by_o way_n of_o excommunication_n may_v be_v noxious_a to_o the_o godly_a in_o which_o case_n such_o tare_n must_v be_v patient_o tolerate_v till_o either_o god_n open_v a_o door_n for_o the_o church_n to_o cast_v they_o out_o or_o deal_v with_o they_o himself_o by_o particular_a or_o general_a judgement_n 3_o lie_n that_o church-member_n may_v be_v know_v to_o be_v wicked_a and_o in_o the_o state_n of_o nature_n without_o danger_n of_o enter_v upon_o god_n throne_n this_o mr._n humphrey_n grant_v here_o and_o the_o parable_n hold_v it_o forth_o matth._n 13._o 26_o 27._o however_o he_o dispute_v against_o it_o elsewhere_o 4_o lie_n that_o where_o wicked_a man_n may_v be_v cut_v off_o without_o prejudice_n to_o the_o godly_a there_o the_o pluck_n up_o of_o those_o tare_n be_v not_o prohibit_v by_o the_o parable_n this_o will_v be_v do_v at_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n have_v be_v do_v and_o may_v be_v do_v by_o excommunication_n 5_o lie_n that_o a_o minister_n knowledge_n of_o a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o tare_n be_v not_o enough_o to_o cast_v he_o out_o of_o the_o church_n since_o it_o be_v of_o great_a concernment_n that_o the_o wheat_n as_o well_o as_o the_o servant_n shall_v know_v the_o tare_n that_o the_o congregation_n as_o well_o as_o church-officer_n shall_v be_v satisfy_v a_o person_n be_v a_o tare_n before_o he_o be_v pluck_v up_o which_o order_n be_v observe_v there_o can_v be_v no_o such_o danger_n of_o pluck_v up_o the_o wheat_n a_o minister_n may_v suspend_v a_o positive_a act_n in_o not_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o such_o a_o person_n for_o the_o present_a but_o he_o can_v put_v forth_o a_o positive_a act_n to_o cut_v off_o such_o a_o person_n from_o the_o church_n without_o consent_n or_o satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n at_o least_o representative_a and_o if_o in_o the_o former_a case_n the_o minister_n do_v wrong_a 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then_o for_o a_o gospel_n minister_n be_v mr._n humphrey_n so_o careful_a to_o reconcile_v christ_n member_n and_o so_o careless_a to_o reconcile_v christ_n truth_n mr._n humphrey_n 89._o pag._n 89._o public_a confession_n will_v hardly_o down_o and_o auricular_a we_o hardly_o approve_v of_o etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 1._o no_o more_o will_v good_a physic_n down_o with_o too_o many_o yet_o a_o wise_a and_o faithful_a physician_n will_v take_v some_o course_n to_o get_v it_o down_o where_o he_o apprehend_v its_o useful_a for_o his_o patient_n 2_o lie_n public_a confession_n of_o sin_n indeed_o be_v harsh_a because_o by_o it_o one_o take_v public_a shame_n to_o himself_o which_o the_o proud_a heart_n of_o man_n be_v loath_a to_o do_v yet_o in_o some_o case_n it_o must_v be_v submit_v to_o but_o public_a profession_n of_o faith_n be_v honourable_a and_o which_o it_o be_v a_o shame_n for_o a_o christian_n to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o bride_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o profess_v their_o love_n of_o and_o confidence_n in_o their_o bridegroom_n before_o the_o minister_n and_o the_o church_n if_o need_v be_v and_o shall_v christ_n spouse_n be_v ashamed_a to_o declare_v her_o faith_n in_o and_o love_n of_o her_o most_o precious_a lord_n and_o husband_n before_o the_o friend_n of_o the_o bridegroom_n 3_o lie_n this_o profession_n be_v not_o so_o public_a as_o to_o offer_v violence_n to_o the_o modesty_n of_o any_o it_o be_v make_v but_o before_o two_o or_o three_o who_o be_v also_o ready_a to_o prompt_v the_o bride_n when_o her_o modesty_n seal_v up_o her_o lip_n with_o silence_n 4_o lie_n to_o avoid_v the_o imputation_n of_o auricular_a confession_n etc._n etc._n this_o profession_n be_v not_o make_v to_o the_o minister_n alone_o but_o before_o person_n also_o of_o know_a integrity_n who_o we_o hope_v without_o offence_n we_o may_v call_v elder_n and_o if_o they_o be_v not_o such_o it_o be_v the_o error_n and_o fault_n of_o those_o who_o choose_v they_o and_o may_v be_v remedy_v by_o 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deceive_v the_o reader_n in_o tell_v he_o i_o place_v the_o whole_a business_n of_o excommunication_n in_o suspension_n from_o actual_a receive_v when_o its_o evident_a by_o my_o whole_a discourse_n i_o place_n but_o part_n of_o the_o business_n of_o excommunication_n in_o it_o it_o be_v a_o low_a degree_n and_o but_o a_o negative_a excommunication_n as_o we_o manage_v it_o like_o his_o excommunication_n of_o infant_n and_o idiot_n after_o sundry_a pitiful_a shuffling_n with_o some_o scoff_v intermix_v to_o make_v the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n serve_v his_o turn_n 89._o pag._n 88_o &_o 89._o mr._n humphrey_n at_o last_o 25._o matth._n 13._o 25._o come_v to_o issue_n and_o be_v pinch_v with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o excommunication_n which_o cut_v the_o throat_n of_o his_o interpretation_n of_o that_o parable_n be_v please_v to_o take_v notice_n of_o my_o objection_n in_o these_o word_n if_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v the_o tare_n let_v alone_a until_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n 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