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A80164 Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici revindicatæ: or The preacher (pretendedly) sent, sent back again, to bring a better account who sent him, and learn his errand: by way of reply, to a late book (in the defence of gifted brethrens preaching) published by Mr. John Martin of Edgefield in Norfolk, Mr. Samuel Petto of Sandcroft in Suffolk, Mr. Frederick Woodale of Woodbridge in Suffolk: so far as any thing in their book pretends to answer a book published, 1651. called Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici; with a reply also to the epistle prefixed to the said book, called, The preacher sent. By John Collinges B.D. and pastor of the church in Stephens parish in Norwich. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1658 (1658) Wing C5348; Thomason E946_4; ESTC R207611 103,260 172

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righteousness_n 2_o cor._n 11.15_o of_o christ_n 2_o cor._n 11.33_o of_o the_o church_n 0.0.0.0_o our_o brethren_n p._n 2._o tell_v we_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v often_o apply_v to_o saint_n no_o officer_n but_o as_o they_o have_v quote_v only_o 2_o cor._n 9.1_o for_o that_o so_o they_o may_v consider_v that_o no_o preach_a saint_n in_o scripture_n who_o be_v no_o officer_n be_v ever_o so_o call_v though_o if_o he_o have_v it_o have_v not_o signify_v much_o as_o to_o the_o present_a question_n for_o any_o one_o that_o serve_v but_o his_o master_n table_n be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o if_o our_o brethren_n do_v only_o urge_v the_o common_a usage_n of_o the_o word_n than_o they_o do_v but_o play_v with_o a_o equivocal_a term_n scripture_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o it_o signify_v in_o scripture_n the_o three_o word_n use_v be_v
he_o can_v come_v near_o act_v 9.14_o now_o beside_o these_o more_o general_a distribution_n of_o a_o church_n the_o church_n as_o visible_a be_v capable_a of_o several_a state_n from_o whence_o arise_v 3_o other_o notion_n of_o it_o 1._o there_o be_v a_o more_o imperfect_a state_n of_o it_o as_o consider_v without_o officer_n this_o divine_n call_v a_o entitive_a or_o material_a church_n which_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o any_o particular_a number_n any_o part_n of_o that_o company_n before_o mention_v who_o be_v find_v in_o any_o nation_n province_n city_n parish_n so_o call_v out_o of_o the_o paganish_a world_n agree_v in_o the_o profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o sense_n i_o always_o think_v that_o we_o and_o our_o brethren_n of_o the_o congregational_a persuasion_n have_v be_v agree_v that_o there_o be_v national_a provincial_a and_o parochial_a church_n 2._o there_o be_v a_o second_o notion_n of_o the_o church_n result_v from_o the_o consideration_n of_o this_o body_n 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