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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A18920	Errour on the right hand, through a preposterous zeale Acted by way of dialogue. Betweene 1 Mal-content and Flyer. 2 Flyer and Anabaptist. 3 Anabaptist, & Legatine-arrian. 4 Flyer and Legatine-arrian. 5 Flier, Legaine-arria[n] & Familist. 6 Flyer and Familist. 7 Flyer and Mediocritie. Whereto is also added, certaine positions touching Church and Antichrist: as without the true holding thereof, it is impossible for a zelous soule, to auoyde either schisme or faction. By Henoch Clapham.	Clapham, Henoch.	1608 (1608)	STC 5341; ESTC S118639	27,520	96

long-swords do keepe out the Ordinances of Christ Iesus Haue you not so taught and written Mal. content Indeed I thinke I so writ once in a Sermon vpon Rom. 12.6 7 8. and in some of my Petitions to the Parliament c. Flyer In your c. you may vnderstande many other Bookes the most of your publique Sermons and specially your Conuenticles in secret where your priuat Disciples might priuately applaud you And if you remember I was one of your Classis when in Cambridge you in secret chattred out that Sermon vpon Rom. 12. which afterwardes was published without name because it seemeth you were not minded for it publiquely to take up Christs crosse and so to follow him Mal-con You Flyers be exceeding harsh in your censures Flyer And you sir Mal-content exceeding doble in your dealinges But to come to the poynt doe you not stand a member of that Church whose gouernment is Antichristian Mal-con What if I doe Flyer Then you are a member of Antichrist and all your Prayers and Preachinges but so many badges of the Beast and all accursed Mal-con But it may be I stand no ordinarie member of that Church Flyer Are you a member of the Church of England yea or no Mal-con A member I am but no Ordinarie member For though I sometimes heare some man preach that is but occasionally as a man passing by some Scolds might occasionally giue them a while the hearing And as for the sacrament of Communion I neuer meddle with it because Righteousnes can haue no fellowship with vnrighteousnes and so I am no ordinarie member Flyer O monstrous hypocrisie with your two-peny-ordinary Was it euer heard of in the Bible that a man should be a member not a member of a Church which you call a member not-ordinary So I may be a member of the Church of Rome a member of Mahomets Sinagogue and of whom not It this be not a Babel a Confusion of men and manners what then can bee But answere to this question Under whose gouernment are you whiles you are in a parish Church hearing a Preacher of the Bishops ordination Mal-con To speake the trueth vnder the regiment of Antichrist Flyer Are you not there held for a Subiect to the sayd Antichristian regiment Mal-cont The most it may be doe but it may be that some there know that my heart is against their doinges Flyer So the good testimonie which you should seeke for of men doth rest vpon It may be it may be It may be you may leaue this halting but I know not when The Prophet Daniel had not this subtiltie when though he did well he would not be thought of any to do euill as omitting duetie of prayer to God Hananiah Azariah and Mishael could by your Religion haue bowed before the Idoll and notwithstanding haue sayd that their heartes were against it and one of them could haue borne witnesse of anothers good meaning But they had learned that both body and soule were bought with a price euen with the blood of the immaculate Lambe and therefore they must glorifie God in both Trueth is naked and seekes none of these corners But tell me I pray you If the King should giue all his Subiects leaue to forsake all communion with the Confused people leitourgie and gouernement of the Church of England would you not for sake them all and betake you presently to that Church whereof I am a member Mal-cont Indeed I should And that is the maine point in truth the King not giuing leaue to come out of this Aegypt this spirituall house of bondage Flyer Mal-content You tearme your Church uery fitly A spirituall house of bondage And because Spirituall therefore not to be fraied in till y e King giue leaue to goe out Do more then the Theefe Adulterer or Durtherer is to stay in his sinne till the King bid him go out And yet these euils against the second Table onely whereas the other is hypocrisie in Religion and flat Idolatrie against the first Table of the ●orall law which commaundeth Holynesse towardes God as the second inioyneth Righteousnesse towardes man Though Daniel Hananiah Azariah Mishael and their brethren might not depart Babel them coastes till y e King gaue leaue yet they might ought and did depart from their Idolatrie and false worship howsoeuer their Godyes for testifying against it were ●ardly intreated and still kept in corpo●all bondage Mal-con Mee thinkes M. Flyer you now ●uch your selfe who departes the Kinges territories and your owne natiue land which is more for planting a Church amonst a people of hard language For which respect a principall Norwich-man of your sect hath helde you for a true Church while yee were in your owne Nation But departing once the limits of your owne language he hath taught that so ye apostate from Fayth and Charitie and to be no true Church I thinke you cannot answere him Flyer If I could not yet that is no excuse for your standing in spirituall euil But I pray you did not Elias fly in time of persecution Did not our Sauiour so and teach his Apostles to do so Mal-con True but no flight to continue with any people whose language they vnderstood not much lesse there to plant a Church Flyer Well for that poynt I am not yet studied I will aske councell about it Meane time looke you to your winding and doubling euen against the light of your minde and confession of your mouth Mal-con Nay we haue some of vs moe exceptions against you For you cannot be contented onely to depart from vs but you condemne euery soule of our Church for a lim of the sonne of Perdition and so to stand visibly in the state of damnation Whereas you know well enough that many of vs grone vnder the burden of sinne and do striue after that is good Flyer Mal-content Mal-content you must not onely grone vnder sinne but grieue at it and fly from it as I and others haue who as Hee-goates before the Flocke haue gone foorth with our faces towardes Sion Mal-con Besides M. Flyer in the writings you publish you fill all the Margines with allegations from Scripture and the most to none or to a lying purpose As to giue one instance It is held of you and vs that the new Testament hath his peculiar forme of Church-gouernment giuen by Christ and that the old Testament hath his peculiar gouernment giuen by Moses And yet for proofe of Christes Discipline and Institutions you quote Scriptures from the olde Testament which planely establish the Mosaicall orders A seconde instance may be this Such Scriptures as speake of the inuisible Church knowen to God for holy and vnspotted you quote for probatiō of the visible Church her state and constitution which you intende must be Visibly all holy and vnspotted in this life If such allegation of Scripture be not a notable taking of Gods name in vaine I then vnderstand nothing Flyer First let it be so