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nothing_o have_v be_v more_o easy_a to_o do_v especial_o in_o luther_n time_n if_o any_o such_o company_n have_v be_v extant_a that_o protestant_n confess_v that_o before_o luther_n their_o church_n have_v no_o protestant_a pastor_n chap._n vii_o 1._o the_o 4._o demonstration_n for_o to_o prove_v that_o luther_n be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o protestant_a church_n and_o religion_n we_o will_v take_v out_o of_o that_o protestant_n acknowledge_v their_o church_n before_o his_o time_n to_o have_v whole_o want_v pastor_n first_o therefore_o they_o confess_v that_o their_o pastor_n in_o former_a time_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o world_n world_n protestant_n pastor_n unknown_a to_o the_o world_n and_o to_o protestant_n themselves_n d._n fulk_n in_o his_o book_n of_o succession_n pag._n 26_o god_n have_v raise_v up_o pastor_n in_o all_o age_n howsoever_o they_o be_v unknown_a to_o the_o world_n and_o pag._n
22_o i_o deny_v say_v be_v this_o succession_n of_o pastor_n to_o be_v always_o notorious_a to_o the_o world_n and_o in_o his_o answer_n to_o stapletons_n cavillat_n who_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o she_o alone_o it_o the_o true_a church_n who_o can_v show_v her_o pastor_n in_o a_o continual_a succession_n d._n humphrey_n to_o 3._o reason_n of_o f._n campian_n p._n 288._o confess_v that_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o name_n of_o the_o pastor_n who_o teach_v their_o church_n be_v extant_a d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2_o quest_n 5._o cap._n 6._o page_n 508._o thus_o write_v what_o then_o be_v the_o succession_n of_o our_o pastor_n always_o visible_a no._n for_o this_o be_v not_o needful_a though_o therefore_o our_o pastor_n be_v not_o in_o time_n past_o manifest_a neither_o can_v we_o name_v then_o yet_o etc._n etc._n d._n morton_n in_o the_o first_o part_n of_o his_o apology_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 21._o say_v that_o the_o catholic_a church_n can_v always_o show_v the_o ordination_n of_o pastor_n d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 410_o i_o have_v show_v the_o teacher_n of_o our_o faith_n do_v lawful_o succeed_v and_o so_o always_o have_v do_v though_o not_o outward_o and_o visible_o to_o the_o world_n the_o like_a he_o have_v pag._n 411._o and_o 436._o sadel_n write_v his_o book_n the_o vocatione_n ministrorun_v against_o such_o protestant_n as_o think_v that_o their_o minister_n want_v all_o lawful_a call_n because_o say_v they_o they_o have_v no_o perpetual_a visible_a succession_n from_o the_o apostle_n unto_o these_o time_n and_o himself_o there_o pag._n 560._o confess_v that_o visible_a succession_n have_v be_v break_v of_o for_o many_o year_n in_o the_o church_n thou_o see_v good_a reader_n how_o they_o plain_o confess_v that_o before_o luther_n start_v up_o their_o pastor_n be_v unknown_a to_o the_o world_n not_o manifest_a their_o succession_n not_o always_o visible_a their_o name_n not_o extant_a nor_o they_o can_v be_v name_v of_o protestant_n and_o indeed_o and_o effect_v they_o all_o confess_v the_o same_o when_o as_o none_o of_o they_o can_v produce_v any_o one_o man_n worthy_a of_o credit_n who_o hear_v any_o protestant_a preacher_n who_o before_o luther_n arise_v preach_v justification_n by_o only_a faith_n and_o the_o other_o fundamental_a point_n of_o protestancy_n 2._o second_o luther_n either_o complain_v or_o boast_v for_o sometime_o he_o alone_o preach_v protestancy_n in_o his_o preface_n upon_o his_o 1._o tome_fw-mi at_o first_o i_o be_v alone_o alone_o luther_n alone_o and_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o captivity_n of_o babylon_n tom_n 2._o fol._n 63_o at_o that_o time_n i_o alone_o do_v role_n this_o stone_n and_o against_o the_o king_n of_o england_n fol._n 497_o i_o alone_o stand_v in_o the_o battle_n i_o alone_o be_v compel_v to_o cast_v myself_o upon_o the_o weapon_n of_o the_o emperor_n and_o the_o pope_n i_o stand_v alone_o in_o danger_n forsake_v of_o all_o help_v of_o none_o and_o upon_o the_o gradual_a psalm_n tom_n 3._o fol._n 5â—5_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o my_o quarrel_n i_o take_v all_o the_o matter_n upon_o myself_o and_o do_v think_v that_o by_o god_n help_n i_o alone_o shall_v sustain_v it_o and_o otherwhere_o as_o before_o be_v report_v he_o say_v that_o without_o he_o other_o shall_v not_o have_v know_v one_o jot_n of_o the_o gospel_n melancthon_n in_o the_o preface_n of_o the_o act_n of_o ratisbon_n tom_n 4._o pag._n 730_o say_v luther_n alone_o dare_v meddle_v with_o the_o error_n of_o the_o pope_n &_o school_n zuinglius_fw-la in_o his_o exegesis_n to_o 2._o term_v luther_n jonathas_n who_o alone_o dare_v set_v upon_o the_o camp_n of_o the_o philistian_o and_o caluin_n in_o his_o admonition_n to_o westphalus_n pag._n 787._o say_v luther_n alone_o doubt_v not_o to_o set_v upon_o all_o popery_n beside_o luther_n as_o before_o we_o have_v rehearse_v write_v that_o the_o only_a scripture_n be_v leave_v whereby_o man_n may_v recover_v the_o faith_n but_o if_o 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tom_fw-mi 3._o fol._n 568_o the_o church_n have_v no_o true_a ministry_n under_o antichrist_n ministry_n no_o true_a ministry_n upon_o the_o 25._o of_o genesis_n tom_n 6._o fol._n 319_o in_o our_o time_n after_o those_o popish_a monster_n the_o true_a knowledge_n of_o the_o word_n and_o of_o divine_a ordination_n be_v extinguish_v and_o upon_o the_o 49._o chap._n fol._n 655_o extinguish_v extinguish_v we_o be_v not_o the_o church_n for_o any_o ordinary_a succession_n caluin_n epist_n 290_o because_o the_o true_a rank_n of_o ordination_n be_v break_v of_o by_o the_o tyranny_n of_o the_o pope_n now_o we_o need_v have_v new_a help_n to_o raise_v again_o the_o church_n of_o break_a of_o and_o in_o answer_n to_o sadolet_n pag._n 132._o he_o write_v that_o when_o the_o supremacy_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v set_v up_o the_o true_a order_n of_o the_o church_n perish_v perish_v perish_v and_o of_o true_a reformation_n p._n 322_o not_o without_o cause_n do_v we_o avouch_v the_o church_n of_o god_n for_o some_o age_n to_o have_v be_v so_o ioâ—ne_a and_o scatter_v that_o be_v it_o be_v destitute_a of_o true_a pastor_n beza_n in_o his_o catechism_n pastor_n destitute_a of_o pastor_n title_n of_o the_o church_n cap._n 5_o sect_n 18_o in_o our_o time_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v thing_n be_v so_o fall_v down_o that_o there_o be_v leave_v no_o place_n for_o ordinary_a vocation_n and_o epist_n 5._o pag._n 39_o in_o our_o time_n ordinary_a vocation_n where_o ordinary_a vocation_n no_o where_o which_o no_o where_n be_v neither_o can_v nor_o aught_o to_o be_v expect_v and_o epist_n 24_o you_o know_v be_v teach_v by_o fresh_a example_n how_o the_o public_a ministry_n be_v as_o it_o be_v overwhelm_v for_o a_o time_n yet_o the_o church_n of_o god_n remain_v and_o epist_n 81_o the_o matter_n come_v to_o that_o pass_n ground_n overthrow_v to_o the_o ground_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a order_n be_v whole_o overthrow_v even_o to_o the_o foundation_n the_o vain_a name_n thereof_o only_o remain_v and_o lib._n de_fw-fr notis_n eccles_n pag._n 82_o they_o who_o in_o our_o memory_n have_v free_v the_o church_n from_o the_o tyranny_n of_o antichrist_n have_v none_o of_o who_o they_o may_v lawful_o ask_v or_o receive_v imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o epist_n 86_o it_o be_v manife_a that_o for_o some_o age_n lawful_a order_n be_v quite_o abolish_v in_o the_o church_n abolish_v quite_o abolish_v none_o not_o so_o much_o as_o the_o slender_a shadow_n of_o the_o chief_a part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a call_n remain_v the_o french_a confession_n art_n 31_o sometime_o as_o in_o our_o age_n the_o state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v interrupt_v it_o be_v needful_a that_o some_o pastor_n shall_v be_v extraordinary_o raise_v of_o god_n sadeel_n also_o de_fw-la vocat_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la p._n 556._o say_v that_o true_a order_n of_o pastor_n be_v interrupt_v d._n whitaker_n cont._n 2._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 6._o pag._n 510_o we_o say_v that_o our_o man_n calling_n be_v not_o ordinary_a but_o 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about_o to_o show_v any_o other_o kind_n of_o pastor_n final_o all_o those_o who_o affirm_v that_o the_o vocation_n or_o mission_n of_o luther_n and_o their_o first_o minister_n be_v extraordinary_a must_v needs_o say_v that_o there_o be_v no_o former_a protestant_n pastor_n of_o who_o they_o can_v have_v be_v send_v or_o approve_v pastor_n protestant_n say_v the_o church_n may_v be_v without_o pastor_n 4._o the_o same_o also_o they_o insinuate_v when_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o church_n may_v be_v without_o pastor_n which_o they_o affirm_v that_o thereby_o they_o may_v defend_v the_o be_v of_o their_o own_o church_n before_o luther_n when_o it_o have_v no_o pastor_n luther_n in_o cap._n 4._o oseae_n tom_n 4._o fol_z 295_o as_o if_o the_o church_n be_v tie_v to_o any_o certain_a order_n of_o ministry_n the_o confession_n of_o saxony_n cap._n 12_o god_n eftsoon_o restore_v the_o ministry_n caluin_n of_o true_a reform_v pag._n 332_o i_o grant_v indeed_o that_o it_o can_v never_o fall_v out_o that_o the_o church_n perish_v but_o when_o they_o refer_v that_o to_o pastor_n which_o be_v promise_v of_o the_o perpetual_a continuance_n of_o the_o church_n in_o that_o they_o be_v much_o deceive_v for_o the_o church_n do_v not_o perish_v straight_o if_o pastor_n he_o want_v beza_n of_o the_o note_n of_o the_o church_n pag._n 55_o ordinary_a succession_n and_o vocation_n of_o pastor_n be_v not_o always_o needful_a or_o perpetual_a sadeel_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o abjure_v article_n pag._n 533_o it_o be_v false_a that_o the_o outward_a ministry_n must_v be_v perpetual_a the_o same_o he_o have_v in_o repetit_fw-la sophism_n turriani_n pag._n 763._o junius_n and_o danaeus_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 8._o bucan_n in_o his_o 41._o place_v de_fw-fr eccles_n quest_n 19_o sometime_o the_o outward_a and_o usual_a ministry_n of_o the_o church_n be_v interrupt_v the_o church_n be_v extraordinary_o nourish_v of_o god_n as_o it_o be_v in_o the_o desert_n keckerman_n in_o his_o 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cit_fw-la cap._n 17._o write_v thus_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o proposition_n to_o wit_n where_o there_o be_v no_o succession_n there_o be_v no_o church_n you_o know_v to_o be_v weak_a and_o cap._n 18._o he_o affirm_v this_o say_n to_o be_v false_a succession_n of_o doctrine_n can_v be_v divide_v from_o succession_n of_o person_n and_o cap._n 23._o say_v succession_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v without_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n and_o succession_n of_o doctrine_n without_o succession_n of_o person_n d._n fulke_o lib._n the_o success_n pag._n 319_o yea_o even_o the_o very_a public_a preach_v of_o the_o word_n may_v be_v silent_a for_o a_o time_n and_o the_o church_n be_v deprive_v for_o a_o time_n of_o this_o ordinary_a mean_n of_o her_o salvation_n may_v be_v preserve_v so_o long_o of_o god_n and_o d._n white_a in_o his_o way_n to_o the_o church_n pag._n 87_o all_o the_o external_a government_n of_o the_o church_n may_v come_v to_o decay_v in_o that_o the_o local_a and_o personal_a 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to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n in_o former_a time_n be_v in_o popery_n be_v ground_v upon_o that_o saying_n apocal._n 18_o go_v out_o of_o she_o babylon_n my_o people_n therefore_o god_n people_n be_v in_o babylon_n that_o be_v say_v theâ—_n in_o popery_n thus_o argue_v luther_n in_o cap._n 12._o genes_n tom_fw-mi 6._o fol._n 144._o and_o in_o cap._n 19_o fol._n 234._o the_o magdeburgian_o in_o praefat._n centur._n 8._o plessy_a lib._n de_fw-fr eccles_n cap._n 10._o and_o other_o common_o yea_o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a tract_n 22._o write_v that_o by_o this_o commandment_n it_o may_v be_v gather_v that_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v long_a time_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n wherein_o he_o speak_v more_o true_o than_o he_o mean_v for_o the_o true_a church_n be_v and_o be_v always_o in_o the_o roman_a but_o the_o protestant_n neither_o be_v nor_o be_v there_o to_o the_o argument_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o place_n can_v be_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n 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book_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n many_o obscure_a thing_n be_v tell_v and_o there_o be_v few_o thing_n therein_o 17._o lib_n 20._o de_fw-mi civit._n c._n 17._o by_o light_n whereof_o the_o rest_n may_v be_v seek_v aught_o with_o labour_n and_o with_o protestant_n d._n andrew_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o bellarmine_n apology_n cap._n 9_o be_v he_o ignorant_a that_o concern_v the_o apocalypse_n nothing_o certain_a or_o of_o faith_n be_v yet_o prescribe_v by_o the_o church_n that_o it_o may_v be_v lawful_a to_o use_v one_o only_a kind_n of_o interpretation_n and_o no_o other_o as_o if_o it_o be_v so_o clear_a and_o evident_a that_o it_o be_v a_o heinous_a offence_n to_o leave_v it_o or_o to_o dissent_v any_o way_n from_o it_o yea_o as_o any_o may_v with_o great_a probability_n show_v the_o prophecy_n there_o to_o be_v fulfil_v so_o be_v it_o free_a for_o any_o to_o use_v his_o judgement_n &_o to_o follow_v his_o own_o opinion_n in_o explicate_v they_o and_o d._n whitaker_n cont._n 4._o quest_n 5._o cap._n 3_o pag._n 677_o it_o be_v well_o enough_o know_v that_o john_n in_o the_o apocalypse_n speak_v not_o of_o clear_a and_o open_a matter_n but_o of_o obscurt_n and_o hide_a m._n brightman_n in_o his_o preface_n of_o the_o apocalypse_n in_o so_o great_a abundance_n of_o ancient_a and_o new_a exposition_n the_o apocalypse_n yet_o as_o all_o agree_v need_v a_o apocalypse_n and_o m._n sheldon_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o miracle_n of_o antichrist_n cap._n 4._o pag._n 54_o call_v it_o a_o dark_a &_o mystical_a prophecy_n in_o which_o say_v he_o quot_fw-la verba_fw-la tot_fw-la latent_fw-la mysteria_fw-la and_o pag._n 226_o the_o apocalypse_n be_v a_o book_n whole_o mystical_a which_o do_v except_v some_o few_o doctrinal_a rule_n and_o exhortation_n to_o virtue_n in_o type_n figure_n form_n and_o resemblance_n describe_v and_o foretell_v the_o future_a event_n of_o the_o
the_o pope_n be_v that_o antichrist_n whereof_o s._n paul_n speak_v 5._o the_o three_o argument_n they_o wring_v out_o of_o the_o 12._o apocal._n where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o dragon_n shall_v cause_v the_o woman_n that_o be_v the_o church_n to_o fly_v into_o the_o wilderness_n this_o also_o be_v a_o fallacy_n not_o unlike_a to_o the_o former_a first_o because_o it_o be_v more_o unknown_a that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v the_o woman_n or_o the_o true_a church_n or_o the_o pope_n that_o dragon_n or_o the_o popery_n the_o desert_n hen_n that_o protestant_n be_v heretofor_a among_o papist_n again_o there_o be_v no_o speech_n at_o all_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v so_o long_a time_n and_o so_o secret_a as_o protestant_n say_v their_o church_n be_v in_o popery_n yea_o the_o time_n which_o this_o woman_n be_v to_o abide_v in_o the_o wilderness_n be_v set_v down_o to_o be_v 1260_o day_n or_o as_o it_o be_v say_v cap._n 20._o a_o small_a tyme._n and_o as_o luther_n upon_o daniel_n tom_n 4._o fol_z 265._o and_o bullinger_n conc_fw-fr 46._o in_o apocal._n write_v almost_o all_o doctor_n attribute_v but_o 3._o year_n and_o half_a to_o the_o persecution_n of_o antichrist_n wherefore_o these_o kind_n of_o testimony_n by_o which_o protestant_n make_v show_v to_o prove_v that_o their_o church_n be_v heretofore_o in_o popery_n be_v but_o as_o s._n augustin_n speak_v of_o the_o like_a testimony_n use_v by_o donatist_n 19.23_o de_fw-fr unit_fw-la c._n 19.23_o slender_n snare_n of_o delay_n wherewith_o you_o underprop_v a_o evil_a cause_n by_o delay_v but_o we_o demand_v some_o manifest_a testimony_n therefore_o bring_v out_o some_o manifest_a produce_v some_o thing_n that_o need_v no_o interpreter_n or_o if_o you_o can_v perform_v that_o which_o so_o just_o we_o demand_v of_o you_o believe_v truth_n hold_v your_o peace_n sleep_v a_o nap_n and_o after_o waken_v to_o salvation_n 6._o their_o 4._o sophism_n they_o draw_v out_o of_o reason_n in_o this_o sort_n as_o 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no_o 8._o no_o cap._n 8._o pastor_n to_o govern_v no_o 3._o no_o cap._n 3._o sheep_n to_o be_v govern_v no_o 5._o no_o cap._n 5._o appearance_n to_o be_v see_v no_o 9_o no_o cap._n 9_o place_n to_o abide_v no_o 1._o no_o cap._n 1._o be_v to_o be_v what_o then_o can_v it_o be_v but_o a_o fiction_n of_o lie_a man_n or_o a_o imagination_n of_o phrantike_a man_n vain_o devise_v untrue_o avouch_v and_o fond_o believe_v that_o all_o the_o protestant_n first_o hear_v of_o have_v be_v in_o former_a time_n papist_n chap._n xi_o the_o 6._o demonstration_n for_o to_o prove_v luther_n to_o have_v be_v the_o author_n of_o protestancie_n shall_v be_v ground_v upon_o that_o all_o protestant_n who_o be_v first_o hear_v of_o have_v be_v all_o papist_n before_o luther_n begin_v to_o teach_v papist_n luther_n before_o a_o papist_n of_o himself_o thus_o write_v luther_n prefat_n in_o tom_n 1._o before_o all_o thing_n i_o request_v the_o godly_a reader_n that_o he_o read_v all_o with_o judgement_n and_o consider_v that_o i_o be_v once_o a_o monk_n and_o a_o most_o mad_a papist_n when_o i_o begin_v this_o cause_n so_o drunken_a and_o drown_v in_o papistry_n that_o i_o be_v most_o ready_a to_o kill_v all_o if_o i_o have_v be_v able_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o psalm_n 45_o tom_n 3._o fol._n 441_o i_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o pope_n house_n i_o be_v catechise_v &c_n &c_n and_o in_o psalm_n 51._o fol_z 476_o i_o whole_o live_v so_o in_o trust_n of_o my_o justice_n as_o if_o any_o have_v then_o â—aught_v that_o which_o i_o now_o teach_v i_o think_v i_o shall_v have_v tear_v he_o with_o my_o tooth_n and_o in_o cap._n 1_o galat._n tom_n 5._o fol._n 291_o if_o any_o at_o anytime_n sure_o i_o before_o the_o light_n of_o the_o gospel_n do_v think_v pious_o and_o be_v zealous_a for_o popish_a law_n and_o tradition_n of_o father_n and_o do_v in_o great_a earnestness_n urge_v and_o defend_v they_o as_o holy_a and_o the_o observation_n of_o they_o as_o necessary_a to_o salvation_n i_o pure_o adore_v the_o pope_n and_o what_o soever_o i_o do_v i_o do_v of_o a_o simple_a heart_n a_o good_a zeal_n and_o to_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v so_o great_a with_o i_o that_o i_o judge_v it_o a_o crime_n worthy_a of_o eternal_a damnation_n to_o dissent_v from_o he_o and_o will_v have_v subministre_v with_o fire_n and_o sword_n for_o the_o defence_n of_o the_o pope_n authority_n 2._o melancthon_n who_o as_o caluin_n write_v be_v a_o principal_a minister_n of_o god_n in_o do_v great_a matter_n and_o be_v indeed_o luther_n chief_a instrument_n in_o his_o dispute_n of_o matrimony_n tom_n 2._o luther_n fol._n ult._n give_v god_n thancke_n papist_n melancthon_n first_o a_o papist_n that_o he_o be_v deliver_v out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n and_o poposh_n error_n and_o say_v as_o report_v scusselburg_n tom_n 13._o catal._n haer._n pag._n 625._o of_o himself_o i_o move_v not_o these_o controversy_n but_o fall_v into_o they_o after_o they_o be_v move_v which_o be_v many_o and_o not_o explicate_v i_o begin_v to_o consider_v they_o with_o a_o desire_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o saxonicall_a minister_n in_o the_o conference_n of_o alburg_n scrip._n 7._o pag._n 349._o write_v that_o melancthon_n of_o his_o own_o accord_n acknowledge_v himself_o a_o scholar_n of_o luther_n yea_o the_o whole_a university_n of_o witterberg_n papist_n the_o university_n of_o witterberg_n first_o papist_n out_o of_o which_o almost_o all_o luther_n first_o champion_n come_v be_v in_o former_a time_n popish_a as_o appear_v by_o their_o epistle_n ad_fw-la milititium_fw-la tom_n 1._o lutheri_fw-la fol._n 205._o where_o thus_o they_o write_v we_o be_v so_o affect_v both_o to_o all_o the_o christian_a religion_n and_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a and_o holy_a church_n of_o rome_n that_o if_o we_o
common_a both_o to_o good_a and_o bad_a touch_v his_o ascend_n up_o to_o heaven_n and_o his_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n of_o all_o these_o point_n they_o contend_v and_o that_o with_o such_o exceed_a heat_n of_o disputation_n as_o that_o old_a heresy_n not_o a_o few_o long_o since_o abolish_v and_o condemn_v begin_v again_o to_o lift_v up_o their_o head_n as_o if_o they_o be_v recall_v from_o hell_n the_o like_a they_o have_v ibidem_fw-la in_o prolegomenis_fw-la of_o the_o controversy_n which_o be_v between_o the_o lutheran_n &_o sacramentary_n about_o the_o â—eall_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n martyr_n in_o locis_fw-la tom_fw-mi 2._o p._n 156._o give_v this_o judgement_n the_o contention_n and_o difference_n therein_o concern_v the_o chief_a head_n of_o religion_n caluin_n epist_n 292._o say_v that_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o lutheran_n do_v by_o mischievous_a juggling_n and_o legierdemain_n overturn_v the_o principle_n of_o faith_n beza_n in_o his_o 5._o epist_n that_o it_o destroy_v the_o verity_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o epist_n 81._o that_o it_o recall_v from_o hell_n the_o folly_n and_o dote_a error_n of_o martion_n and_o eutiches_n bucer_n cite_v by_o hospin_n part_n 2._o hist_o fol._n 84_o it_o follow_v thereupon_o that_o christ_n be_v not_o true_a man_n paraeus_n in_o cap._n 3._o galat._n lection_n 37_o there_o be_v nothing_o more_o direct_o opposite_a to_o christian_a religion_n then_o to_o think_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n do_v indeed_o lie_v hide_v real_o under_o the_o bread_n and_o that_o the_o same_o be_v true_o eat_v with_o the_o mouth_n sadeel_n in_o tract_n de_fw-fr coniunctione_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 369._o that_o it_o overthrow_v the_o true_a nature_n of_o the_o true_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o thing_n say_v he_o we_o still_o lie_v to_o their_o charge_n and_o tract_n de_fw-fr sacramentali_fw-la manducatione_n pag._n 26._o that_o it_o be_v a_o word_n of_o evil_n pag._n 267_o that_o it_o train_n after_o it_o idolatry_n and_o pag._n 268_o that_o it_o cannot_v stand_v with_o the_o verity_n of_o christ_n body_n hospin_n part_n 2._o citat_fw-la fol._n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o papistry_n and_o fol._n 181_o the_o base_a and_o pillar_n which_o sustain_v all_o the_o whole_a blend_a and_o disorder_a heap_n of_o abuse_n and_o all_o the_o bread-worship_n whicâ—_n have_v under_o the_o popedom_n be_v devise_v and_o bring_v in_o lavaterus_n lib._n the_o dissid_v euchar._n fol._n 7._o that_o it_o be_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o popedom_n cureus_n in_o spongia_n that_o it_o be_v the_o foundation_n the_o strength_n the_o throne_n of_o the_o god_n maozim_n and_o of_o the_o popish_a state_n 12._o caluin_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la p._n 8._o &_o in_o cons_n pag._n 754._o beza_n in_o foe_n 6._o v._n 23.62_o &_o add_v 4._o demonstr_n illyrici_fw-la zanâ—hius_n in_o confess_v c._n 16._o sect_n 12._o and_o vrsinus_n in_o catechism_n quest_n 78._o cap._n 3._o say_v as_o long_o as_o the_o opinion_n of_o the_o corporal_a presence_n be_v maintain_v popish_a adoration_n and_o oblation_n and_o the_o whole_a popish_a mass_n be_v keep_v on_o foot_n and_o there_o be_v not_o one_o sacramentary_a but_o think_v the_o verity_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o his_o ascension_n &_o sit_v at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o the_o father_n clean_o take_v away_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v he_o be_v substantial_o in_o the_o eucharist_n whereupon_o zanchius_n tom_n 1._o miscell_n in_o iudicio_fw-la de_fw-la dissidio_fw-la coenae_fw-la pag._n 553._o say_v there_o be_v two_o main_a reason_n why_o the_o one_o party_n to_o wit_n the_o sacramentary_n renounce_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o body_n the_o one_o that_o the_o article_n of_o christ_n ascension_n into_o heaven_n may_v be_v keep_v entire_a the_o other_o that_o the_o nature_n and_o verity_n of_o his_o humane_a body_n be_v not_o destroy_v nay_o some_o of_o the_o sacramentary_n in_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n condemn_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o lutheran_n as_o mad_a and_o blasphemous_a for_o confess_v crengerina_n cap._n de_fw-la coena_fw-la domini_fw-la say_v we_o condemn_v their_o madness_n who_o avouch_v and_o maintain_v flesh-eating_a that_o be_v who_o hold_v that_o christ_n natural_a and_o very_a body_n raw_a and_o bloody_a without_o any_o change_n or_o transubstantiation_n at_o all_o be_v receive_v with_o the_o very_a mouth_n and_o the_o scot_n in_o their_o confess_v pag._n 159._o say_v they_o detest_v that_o blasphemous_a opinion_n which_o avouch_v christ_n real_a presence_n in_o the_o bread_n &_o wine_n and_o that_o he_o be_v receive_v by_o the_o wicked_a or_o take_v into_o the_o belly_n this_o and_o much_o more_o of_o the_o like_a be_v sometime_o the_o sacramentary_n plea_n against_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o yet_o at_o other_o time_n they_o profess_v that_o this_o controversy_n be_v not_o of_o so_o great_a weight_n and_o moment_n as_o that_o it_o shall_v dissolve_v ecclesiastical_a communion_n and_o fellowship_n for_o so_o teach_v martyr_n apud_fw-la simlerum_n in_fw-la vita_fw-la eius_fw-la the_o author_n of_o the_o orthodox_n consent_n prefat_n apologet._n hospinian_n part_n 2._o histor_n fol._n 78._o caluin_n de_fw-fr scandalis_fw-la pag._n 95._o in_o consens_fw-la p._n 764._o beza_n lib._n de_fw-la coena_fw-la cont_n westphalum_fw-la pag._n 258._o m._n perkins_n in_o his_o exposition_n of_o the_o creed_n col_fw-fr 792._o and_o other_o nay_o as_o we_o say_v before_o these_o man_n beseech_v the_o lutheran_n who_o steadfast_o maintain_v the_o real_a presence_n to_o hold_v they_o for_o brethren_n and_o member_n of_o their_o church_n they_o can_v then_o find_v in_o their_o conscience_n to_o have_v fellowship_n and_o communion_n with_o those_o man_n who_o doctrine_n they_o condemn_v as_o frantic_a &_o blasphemous_a who_o doctrine_n they_o say_v destroy_v christ_n ascension_n brethren_n what_o kind_n of_o man_n sacramentary_n challenge_v for_o brethren_n and_o the_o verity_n of_o his_o humane_a nature_n subvert_v the_o principle_n of_o faith_n and_o chief_a point_n of_o religion_n recall_v the_o dote_a folly_n of_o martion_n and_o eutyches_n establish_v the_o kingdom_n of_o antichrist_n train_n after_o it_o idolatry_n and_o a_o world_n of_o evil_n fie_o on_o these_o man_n belief_n who_o think_v the_o maintenance_n of_o a_o opinion_n which_o as_o themselves_o profess_v overthrow_v the_o principal_a article_n of_o christian_a faith_n draw_v after_o it_o idolatry_n and_o most_o foul_a heresy_n lay_v the_o foundation_n whereon_o antichristianity_n be_v raise_v of_o so_o slight_a consequence_n as_o it_o ought_v not_o to_o dissolve_v fraternity_n and_o communion_n what_o regard_n of_o faith_n or_o salvation_n may_v we_o think_v these_o man_n have_v there_o be_v yet_o another_o point_n oâ—_n luteranisme_n touch_v the_o ubiquity_n or_o presence_n of_o christ_n body_n every_o where_o reprove_v of_o the_o sacramentary_n and_o hold_v in_o extreme_a dislike_n of_o which_o they_o likewise_o exclaim_v that_o it_o be_v 252._o be_v beza_n respon_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la montisb_n l._n pag._n 252._o forge_v and_o compose_v of_o eutychianisme_n and_o nestorianisme_n that_o the_o heresy_n of_o 17._o of_o caluin_n 4_o instit_fw-la c._n 17._o p._n 17._o martion_n and_o eutyches_n yea_o well_o nigh_o 2._o nigh_o hosp_n pref_o par_fw-fr 2._o all_o old_a heresy_n be_v by_o it_o raise_v again_o from_o hell_n that_o it_o subvert_v the_o whole_a 792._o whole_a perkins_n expos_fw-fr symb._n coll_n 792._o creed_n that_o it_o take_v away_o the_o nat_n the_o sadeel_n de_fw-fr verit_fw-la humh_o nat_n chief_a head_n of_o christian_a religion_n &_o that_o there_o be_v scant_o any_o one_o article_n of_o christian_a belief_n which_o it_o do_v not_o utter_o abolish_v and_o yet_o these_o self_n same_o sacramentary_n style_v they_o who_o defend_v this_o opinion_n sup_v opinion_n sadeel_n sup_v most_o flourish_a church_n and_o make_v earnest_a sure_a to_o be_v hold_v for_o 462._o for_o beza_n in_o colloq_fw-la montisbel_n pag._n 462._o brethren_n of_o those_o very_a man_n who_o uphold_v this_o doctrine_n against_o they_o and_o maintain_v it_o to_o their_o face_n nay_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o sacramentary_n themselves_o consist_v of_o part_n main_o disjoin_v in_o matter_n of_o belief_n they_o sacramentary_n say_v there_o be_v fundamental_a difference_n among_o they_o example_n hereof_o we_o need_v not_o seek_v a_o broad_a our_o own_a protestant_n tell_v we_o how_o the_o puritan_n their_o brethren_n allow_v not_o of_o the_o book_n of_o common_a prayer_n but_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v full_a of_o 157._o of_o whitgift_n resp_n ad_fw-la admonit_fw-la p._n 145._o 157._o corruption_n and_o all_o abomination_n and_o teach_v that_o protestant_n schedas_fw-la protestant_n ib._n resp_n ad_fw-la schedas_fw-la wicked_o mangle_v and_o wrest_v the_o scripture_n that_o they_o have_v no_o 6._o no_o resp_n cit_fw-la pag._n 6._o pastor_n that_o they_o have_v not_o a_o true_a church_n
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