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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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church_n will_v there_o be_v even_o 33._o for_o so_o many_o be_v overcome_v but_o shall_v all_o these_o 33._o king_n be_v subdue_v these_o 33._o church_n will_v cease_v to_o be_v independent_a on_o each_o other_o and_o in_o stead_n of_o 33._o church_n depend_v each_o on_o their_o magistrate_n one_o national_a church_n shall_v be_v mould_v of_o the_o same_o extent_n of_o power_n as_o the_o magistrate_n that_o rule_v over_o they_o chapter_n xxii_o that_o the_o great_a opposer_n of_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n namely_o salmasius_n amyraldus_n and_o other_o have_v lay_v down_o the_o same_o ground_n for_o the_o right_n and_o power_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o so_o confute_v rather_o their_o own_o fancy_n then_o invalidate_v the_o tenet_n of_o the_o brethren_n the_o question_n whether_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n brief_o resolve_v that_o amesius_n and_o john_n mestrezat_n late_o minister_v of_o paris_n in_o their_o writing_n have_v hold_v the_o power_n of_o private_a church_n to_o 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these_o word_n the_o church_n and_o the_o commonwealth_n have_v some_o thing_n that_o seem_v common_a and_o they_o may_v be_v almost_o alike_o manage_v both_o by_o ecclesiast_fw-la call_v assembly_n and_o by_o the_o pow●r_n of_o the_o magistrate_n how_o do_v this_o agree_v with_o what_o we_o have_v hear_v he_o say_v that_o it_o be_v a_o horrible_a confusion_n for_o the_o church_n and_o state_n to_o be_v govern_v by_o the_o same_o man_n pag._n 198._o and_o 199._o he_o speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n in_o the_o language_n of_o our_o brethren_n it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o mere_a authority_n of_o council_n ought_v not_o to_o move_v we_o to_o receive_v a_o point_n of_o religion_n the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o thing_n ought_v to_o be_v the_o chief_a motive_n and_o ground_n but_o we_o have_v he_o very_o express_o teach_v his_o scholar_n and_o auditor_n at_o saumur_n that_o the_o appellation_n of_o a_o true_a visible_a church_n do_v proper_o belong_v to_o a_o 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