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A57854 An answer to Dr. Stillingfleet's Irenicum by a learned pen. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1680 (1680) Wing R2217; ESTC R31782 123,510 178

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i_o need_v not_o insist_v on_o what_o he_o write_v p._n 268_o etc._n etc._n of_o the_o rite_n of_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n enough_o have_v be_v say_v to_o show_v that_o it_o prove_v not_o what_o he_o intend_v nor_o on_o the_o person_n ordain_v in_o the_o synagogue_n and_o in_o the_o church_n of_o which_o he_o pa._n 272_o etc._n etc._n for_o in_o both_o he_o confess_v abomination_n to_o have_v be_v do_v in_o common_a by_o those_o in_o power_n and_o afterward_o without_o divine_a warrant_n restrain_v to_o one_o if_o christ_n have_v give_v power_n to_o all_o presbyter_n to_o do_v it_o we_o must_v have_v some_o warrant_v to_o restrain_v this_o power_n ere_o we_o dare_v do_v it_o but_o of_o this_o enough_o before_o sect._n 9_o in_o his_o further_a prosecute_a the_o correspondence_n of_o the_o apostolic_a church_n with_o the_o synagogue_n he_o speak_v p._n 285._o of_o the_o order_n settle_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o church_n plant_v by_o they_o for_o rule_v of_o they_o and_o first_o he_o make_v a_o work_n about_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v the_o same_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d use_v in_o the_o synagogue_n but_o from_o his_o own_o discourse_n it_o be_v clear_a how_o little_a weight_n be_v to_o be_v lay_v on_o this_o consideration_n as_o to_o what_o he_o intend_v see_v that_o name_n be_v ever_o use_v to_o denote_v power_n and_o dignity_n whether_o in_o church_n or_o state_n and_o so_o do_v no_o more_o belong_v to_o the_o synagogue_n than_o other_o thing_n i_o take_v notice_n of_o what_o he_o say_v in_o the_o end_n of_o p._n 286._o if_o his_o design_n be_v not_o to_o dispute_v the_o argument_n of_o of_o either_o party_n viz._n those_o who_o conceive_v the_o apostle_n settle_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o absolute_a purity_n or_o else_o by_o superiority_n and_o subordination_n among_o the_o settle_a officer_n of_o the_o church_n but_o to_o lay_v down_o these_o principle_n which_o may_v equal_o concern_v both_o in_o order_n to_o accommodation_n but_o i_o humble_o conceive_v it_o be_v very_a incumbent_n upon_o he_o to_o answer_v the_o argument_n of_o both_o party_n and_o they_o must_v be_v answer_v to_o we_o before_o we_o be_v oblige_v to_o receive_v his_o doctrine_n of_o which_o anon_o that_o we_o can_v know_v what_o form_n the_o apostle_n settle_v and_o that_o they_o settle_v not_o any_o one_o form_n for_o as_o long_o as_o argument_n bring_v by_o either_o of_o the_o controvert_n party_n do_v stand_v untaken_v away_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o apostle_n settle_v this_o or_o that_o form_n the_o judgement_n can_v never_o acquiesce_v in_o his_o opinion_n that_o they_o settle_v none_o or_o that_o we_o can_v know_v what_o they_o settle_v this_o be_v a_o strange_a way_n of_o dispute_v especial_o when_o the_o design_n be_v to_o satisfy_v the_o conscience_n in_o order_n to_o peace_n and_o yield_v up_o its_o opinion_n to_o
they_o heb._n 13._o 7_o 17._o prove_v also_o the_o same_o thing_n most_o clear_o other_o place_n may_v be_v bring_v but_o these_o instance_n may_v show_v that_o mr._n still_v undertake_v to_o show_v that_o no_o place_n in_o scripture_n determine_v what_o be_v the_o form_n of_o government_n in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n do_v not_o touch_v the_o most_o considerable_a place_n common_o bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n but_o have_v mention_v a_o few_o and_o those_o which_o be_v least_o insist_v on_o by_o they_o who_o he_o oppose_v and_o even_o to_o they_o he_o have_v say_v nothing_o to_o scare_v any_o from_o use_v they_o as_o argument_n afterward_o his_o three_o argument_n for_o the_o uncertainty_n of_o the_o primitive_a or_o apostolical_a form_n of_o government_n take_v from_o the_o insufficiency_n of_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n be_v this_o i_o pass_v it_o because_o we_o have_v ground_n enough_o for_o the_o certainty_n of_o it_o from_o scripture_n and_o what_o he_o say_v prove_v no_o more_o but_o that_o antiquity_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o bear_v witness_n to_o it_o also_o because_o all_o or_o most_o that_o he_o there_o discourse_v prove_v that_o it_o can_v be_v gather_v from_o ancient_a record_n that_o episcopacy_n be_v the_o apostolical_a form_n which_o we_o willing_o yield_v sect._n 14._o i_o come_v then_o to_o his_o second_o proposition_n mention_v before_o which_o he_o lay_v down_o p._n 322._o thus_o that_o the_o apostle_n in_o probability_n do_v not_o observe_v any_o one_o fix_a course_n of_o settle_v the_o government_n of_o church_n but_o settle_v it_o according_a to_o the_o several_a circumstance_n of_o place_n and_o person_n which_o they_o have_v to_o deal_v with_o this_o assertion_n he_o lay_v down_o ex_fw-la abundanti_fw-la not_o as_o a_o foundation_n of_o his_o opinion_n but_o a_o doctrine_n of_o probability_n which_o may_v tend_v to_o compose_v difference_n about_o church-government_n to_o clear_v our_o way_n in_o this_o dispute_n with_o he_o let_v it_o be_v observe_v 1._o that_o the_o question_n be_v only_o about_o parity_n and_o imparity_n of_o pastor_n all_o other_o difference_n in_o apostolic_a practice_n that_o may_v be_v allege_v be_v impertinent_a to_o this_o purpose_n 2._o it_o help_v not_o he_o nor_o harm_v our_o cause_n if_o we_o shall_v grant_v that_o the_o apostle_n do_v in_o some_o extraordinary_a case_n vary_v from_o their_o ordinary_a course_n for_o it_o be_v what_o they_o do_v ordinary_o and_o where_o no_o extraordinary_a cause_n move_v they_o to_o do_v otherwise_o that_o we_o inquire_v about_o 3._o our_o question_n be_v not_o about_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v for_o a_o time_n exercise_v by_o extraordinary_a officer_n immediate_o send_v of_o god_n but_o what_o be_v the_o way_n the_o apostle_n settle_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v govern_v in_o by_o her_o ordinary_a and_o abide_a officer_n wherefore_o it_o make_v nothing_o for_o his_o purpose_n if_o it_o be_v make_v out_o that_o the_o church_n be_v some_o time_n govern_v one_o way_n by_o extraordinary_a officer_n at_o other_o time_n or_o place_n another_o way_n by_o ordinary_a officer_n take_v these_o consideration_n along_o with_o we_o i_o come_v to_o hear_v the_o proof_n of_o this_o his_o proposition_n the_o first_o be_v take_v p._n 323._o from_o the_o different_a state_n condition_n and_o quantity_n of_o the_o church_n plant_v by_o the_o apostle_n and_o here_o he_o premise_v 3_o thing_n viz._n that_o god_n do_v not_o give_v the_o apostle_n equal_a suceess_n of_o their_o labour_n in_o all_o place_n that_o a_o small_a number_n of_o believer_n do_v not_o require_v the_o same_o number_n of_o officer_n to_o teach_v and_o govern_v they_o that_o a_o great_a church_n do_v 3._o that_o the_o apostle_n do_v settle_v church-officer_n according_a to_o the_o probability_n of_o increase_n of_o believer_n and_o in_o order_n thereto_o in_o some_o great_a place_n about_o these_o i_o shall_v not_o controvert_v with_o he_o only_o the_o 2d_o must_v be_v understand_v with_o this_o distinction_n else_o we_o can_v grant_v it_o that_o a_o few_o number_n if_o form_v into_o a_o church-society_n though_o it_o do_v not_o need_v as_o great_a a_o number_n of_o officer_n of_o every_o kind_n as_o teacher_n elder_n deacon_n yet_o will_v it_o need_v as_o many_o sort_n of_o officer_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o all_o those_o act_n be_v needful_a to_o be_v do_v to_o they_o which_o must_v be_v do_v to_o great_a congregation_n they_o must_v be_v teach_v rule_v and_o their_o poor_a care_v for_o and_o therefore_o they_o must_v not_o want_v any_o of_o these_o sort_n of_o officer_n who_o work_n these_o act_n be_v i_o mean_v where_o such_o officer_n can_v be_v have_v for_o christ_n institution_n tie_v not_o to_o impossibility_n from_o these_o premise_n he_o infer_v these_o two_o conclusion_n to_o make_v out_o his_o proposition_n the_o first_o be_v p._n 325._o that_o in_o church_n consist_v of_o a_o small_a number_n of_o believer_n where_o there_o be_v no_o great_a probability_n of_o increase_n afterward_o one_o single_a pastor_n with_o deacon_n under_o he_o be_v only_o constitute_v by_o the_o apostle_n for_o the_o rule_n of_o these_o church_n on_o this_o conclusion_n before_o i_o come_v to_o his_o proof_n of_o it_o i_o shall_v make_v these_o remark_n 1._o here_o be_v nothing_o here_o for_o the_o imparity_n of_o presbyter_n or_o the_o authority_n of_o a_o bishop_n over_o presbyter_n if_o where_o more_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v have_v one_o be_v to_o do_v the_o work_n this_o do_v not_o at_o all_o say_v that_o the_o apostle_n ever_o do_v or_o that_o we_o may_v set_v one_o over_o the_o rest_n where_o many_o may_v be_v have_v to_o rule_v the_o church_n this_o conclusion_n than_o prove_v nothing_o 2._o these_o deacon_n that_o here_o he_o speak_v of_o either_o have_v rule_v power_n or_o not_o if_o he_o say_v the_o first_o i_o doubt_v if_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o ever_o any_o such_o deacon_n be_v in_o the_o apostolic_a church_n where_o the_o deacon_n work_n be_v to_o serve_v not_o to_o rule_v that_o church_n and_o if_o they_o have_v rule_v power_n they_o be_v not_o only_a deacon_n but_o roll_a elder_n both_o work_n be_v lay_v on_o the_o same_o person_n for_o want_n of_o man_n to_o exercise_v they_o distinct_o which_o make_v nothing_o against_o presbyterian_o if_o the_o second_o first_o i_o question_v if_o any_o instance_n can_v be_v give_v of_o a_o church_n so_o constitute_v by_o the_o apostle_n 2._o if_o it_o be_v so_o it_o be_v necessity_n not_o choice_n that_o make_v they_o be_v without_o rule_v elder_n sect._n 15._o but_o how_o prove_v he_o this_o his_o conclusion_n by_o 3_o or_o 4_o testimony_n out_o of_o clement_n epiph._n and_o other_o what_o have_v he_o so_o soon_o forget_v himself_o he_o have_v immediate_o before_o spend_v about_o 30_o page_n in_o prove_v that_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o father_n be_v not_o sufficient_a to_o prove_v what_o be_v the_o apostle_n practise_v and_o that_o by_o make_v out_o the_o defectiveness_n ambiguity_n partiality_n and_o repugnancy_n of_o the_o record_n of_o the_o succeed_a age_n it_o be_v strange_a then_o that_o to_o prove_v this_o his_o assertion_n concern_v apostolic_a practice_n he_o shall_v bring_v no_o other_o argument_n at_o all_o but_o such_o as_o he_o have_v set_v that_o nigrum_fw-la theta_n upon_o neither_o see_v i_o what_o those_o testimony_n prove_v contrary_a to_o we_o the_o testimony_n of_o clement_n say_v no_o more_o than_o what_o be_v employ_v phil._n 1._o 1._o that_o the_o apostle_n ordain_v bishop_n and_o deacon_n and_o our_o author_n himself_o maintain_v that_o those_o be_v not_o by_o their_o constitution_n any_o more_o than_o presbyter_n whatever_o they_o may_v after_o get_v by_o man_n institution_n prove_v not_o what_o be_v apostolic_a constitution_n for_o the_o testimony_n of_o epiphanius_n he_o confess_v its_o intricacie_n and_o obscurity_n and_o therefore_o by_o his_o own_o argument_n of_o which_o before_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v lay_v weight_n upon_o but_o he_o take_v a_o great_a deal_n of_o pain_n to_o explain_v it_o and_o make_v it_o speak_v this_o in_o sum_n that_o at_o first_o there_o be_v only_a bishop_n and_o deacon_n by_o bishop_n he_o mean_v presbyter_n as_o appear_v from_o his_o subjoyn_v immediate_o that_o there_o be_v necessity_n for_o presbyter_n and_o deacon_n and_o that_o by_o these_o all_o ecclesiastical_a office_n may_v be_v perform_v but_o afterward_o where_o there_o be_v need_n and_o there_o be_v find_v any_o worthy_a of_o it_o there_o be_v a_o bishop_n appoint_v but_o where_o there_o be_v not_o many_o to_o be_v presbyter_n they_o be_v content_a with_o a_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n here_o be_v 3_o case_n presbyter_n and_o deacon_n a_o bishop_n and_o deacon_n this_o in_o case_n of_o necessity_n where_o more_o presbyter_n can_v not_o be_v
his_o council_n of_o bishop_n without_o a_o charge_n of_o the_o several_a diocese_n for_o the_o king_n council_n have_v not_o precedency_n of_o several_a part_n of_o the_o country_n and_o they_o must_v authorise_v their_o deputy_n like_o sheriff_n yearly_a etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o commonwealth_n there_o must_v be_v independent_a government_n but_o this_o i_o hope_v the_o author_n will_v not_o own_o 6._o it_o be_v most_o unreasonable_a to_o say_v that_o the_o church-government_n shall_v be_v conform_a to_o the_o civil_a because_o they_o be_v conversant_a about_o thing_n and_o aim_n at_o end_n so_o different_a the_o one_o respect_v thing_n that_o be_v most_o different_a in_o several_a nation_n viz._n man_n civil_a interest_n and_o custom_n and_o inclination_n the_o other_o respect_v that_o which_o ought_v to_o be_v every_o where_o the_o same_o viz._n religion_n his_o 4._o argument_n p._n 379._o be_v that_o other_o episcopal_a government_n be_v settle_v in_o the_o church_n yet_o presbyterian_a ordination_n be_v look_v on_o as_o valid_a this_o be_v not_o againt_v we_o his_o last_o argument_n p._n 382._o be_v that_o several_a restraint_n be_v lay_v on_o by_o council_n about_o the_o observation_n of_o rite_n and_o custom_n and_o something_o of_o church-discipline_n but_o what_o be_v this_o i_o pray_v to_o parity_n or_o imparity_n we_o be_v not_o against_o determination_n of_o indifferent_a thing_n that_o concern_v order_n and_o decency_n though_o we_o think_v that_o the_o form_n of_o government_n be_v determine_v by_o christ_n not_o leave_v to_o the_o will_n of_o man_n chap._n viii_o in_o this_o chapter_n our_o author_n will_v make_v we_o believe_v that_o all_o the_o world_n be_v ever_o of_o his_o opinion_n and_o indeed_o this_o be_v so_o common_a for_o man_n to_o allege_v whatever_o be_v their_o singular_a notion_n of_o thing_n that_o we_o be_v not_o to_o lay_v much_o weight_n upon_o it_o videlius_n take_v as_o much_o pain_n to_o make_v all_o reform_a divine_n to_o speak_v for_o erastianism_n i_o may_v excuse_v myself_o from_o meddle_v any_o further_o with_o this_o last_o chapter_n of_o he_o 1._o from_o the_o needlesness_n of_o the_o thing_n because_o we_o do_v not_o build_v the_o divine_a right_n of_o presbytery_n on_o man_n opinion_n who_o we_o know_v can_v err_v and_o therefore_o if_o all_o the_o world_n be_v against_o it_o if_o the_o scripture_n be_v for_o it_o so_o must_v we_o 2._o from_o the_o disadvantage_n i_o lie_v under_o as_o to_o this_o part_n of_o the_o dispute_n with_o he_o if_o i_o have_v be_v of_o mr._n still_o opinion_n in_o this_o point_n in_o controversy_n i_o may_v through_o compliance_n with_o course_n have_v be_v furnish_v with_o a_o good_a library_n and_o other_o conveniency_n of_o study_v the_o want_n of_o which_o do_v incapacitate_v i_o to_o search_v into_o the_o opinion_n of_o those_o worthy_a man_n which_o he_o cit_v in_o do_v whereof_o i_o hope_v it_o will_v not_o be_v difficult_a to_o show_v that_o some_o of_o their_o testimony_n be_v make_v to_o speak_v otherwise_o than_o they_o think_v and_o other_o of_o they_o be_v irreconcilable_a with_o what_o themselves_o have_v elsewhere_o write_v sect._n 2._o notwithstanding_o we_o shall_v essay_n brief_o to_o say_v as_o much_o to_o his_o allegation_n as_o may_v take_v off_o that_o edge_n they_o seem_v to_o have_v for_o cut_v asunder_o the_o cause_n which_o we_o maintain_v p._n 384._o he_o have_v a_o confident_a assertion_n i_o believe_v say_v he_o there_o will_v upon_o the_o most_o impartial_a survey_n scarce_o be_v one_o church_n of_o the_o reformation_n bring_v which_o do_v embrace_v any_o form_n of_o government_n because_o it_o look_v upon_o that_o form_n as_o only_o necessary_a by_o a_o unalterable_a stand_a law_n but_o every_o one_o take_v up_o that_o form_n of_o government_n which_o be_v judge_v most_o suitable_a to_o the_o state_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o several_a church_n i_o wonder_v to_o see_v this_o so_o confident_o assert_v 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