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Master Edmund Calamies leading case
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was no design by me this is not the first time we have been trapanned T. F. There are few that know you that can allow you so much indiscretion as to yeild to the private importunities of a few Gentlemen against the publick authority of a whole Parliament Mr. Calamy I may say with reverence to the Lord Jesus of whom it is written that I had compassion of the multitude who were as sheep without a shepherd E. W. You must have taught the people better by your silence then by your Sermon your obedience had been better then sacrifice the misguided throng had been better taught by your cheerfull submission to authority then by your indiscreet discourse against it When you had been importuned to preach you should have said I pray you go home and learn what that meaneth Submit your selves to every Ordinance of man for the Lords sake whether it be to the King as supream or unto Governors as unto them who are sent by him for the punishment of evil doers and for the praise of them that do well for so is the will of God that with well doing we may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men as free and using your liberty as a cloak of licentiousnesse 1. Pet. 2. 13 14 15 16. wherefore ye must needs be subject not only for wrath but for conscience sake Ro 13 5 Mr. Calamy I hope an offence of this nature may be passed by being so innocent in the design of it so harmlesse in the consequence of it VV. F. How harmlesse it is in the design of it be it between you and your God and soul how dangerous it is in the consequence of it any man may guesse that considers what encouragement it may give your party if you are not punished and what offence it may give them if you are If you are winked at what say others are we not winked at too without respect of persons If you are punished then they say we are persecuted It is sad that you are become such an occasion of offence between the King and his good people Mr. Calamy I hope I am not so unhappy T. M. You were looked upon as the fittest man to break the Ice being a man so much esteemed for your own worth and so much interessed in honourable friends and acquaintance For as formerly Cartwright was encouraged by the E. of Lecester Travers was entertained by the L. Treasurer Cecill VValsingham was owned by Secretary VValsingham so you stir up your honourable women and look for the favour of many excellent personages M. Calamy I hope his Majesties gracious Declaration may excuse me F. H. When my Lord of London acquainted his Majestie with what you had done his Majestie said I am sure he hath no encouragement to it from my declaration His Majestie never intended any favour of this nature to you and I fear this passage will obabstruct that favour he intended Mr. Calamy So far I hope may this passage be from prejudicing his Sacred Majesty against us that it may rather incline him to favour us considering the necessity he hereby may perceive of our service and the reasonableness of his indulgence M. O. Flatter not your self with these vain thoughts his Majesty may pity you but he doth not want you God hath sent his word and great are the company of Preachers Mr. Calamy Let not the rigour of one Session restrain those whom the indulgence of another may release N. P. It is a question whether the same Parliament may repeal the act that made it whether those things that have been over-ruled may be debated by the same House Mr. Calamy I hope that what a Popish Priest may do without check a Protestant Minister may do without imprisonment R. B. Neither the one nor the other may be endured to seduce the people and with fair words to deceive the hearts of the simple if any man teach any other doctrine and consent not to wholesome words c. Mr. Calamy I hope his Majesty will use his interest with the Parliament A. C. You of all men should not expect it who complained of his late Majesties protecting Delinquents against his Parliament A Brother It is an unheard of course that the Church should be governed by Civil Laws and Ministers punished by Law-men An honest man Since the reformation by your leave and the Papists we have owned his Majesty under Christ Defender of our Faith and Law-maker of our Church the Church directs the State establisheth Good women Alas that they should use the good man so unworthily and hardly A. B. When Mr. Calamy and Mr. Love c. were under restraint and word was sent to the Army in Scotl. concerning it Harrison and others said If godly men transgresse the Law they should be punished by the Law Good w. Alas what harm hath the good man done R. L. In short be abused the Kings Authority he hath broken the settled Law he hath vilified the power of Parliam he hath disturbed the publick peace he stands to the principles of the Rebellion and provokes another Good w. I wonder what he preached A. B. He preached that glory was departing from our Isr Good w. These courses will bring us to another war A. B. Not so we hope What will you endanger the publick peace rather then be restrained will you not scruple at Rebellion who scruple at a few ceremonies what would you do if you had power in your own hands that are so bold without it shall the minor part impose upon the major shall a novel fancy bear down an Apostolicall institution shall a private opinion contest with a publick Law G. w. Alas that our teachers are removed into corners A. B. Our dangers begin at the Pulpit without the aid of seditions Sermons I do believe the strife had never come to bloud he was a wise man that said The single imprisonment of Crofton hath quieted that party more then all the multiplied and transcendent favors of his Majesty Good w. These are sad times A. B. Say not that the former times were better then these for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this thing when you guided the times others complained now others guide the times you complain when shall we be quiet I think it is our best way to rest where we are Good w. Good man he hath discharged his conscience A. B. He hath it may be discharged his conscience and my L. M. must discharge his he who in order to the making of good Christians makes bad subjects hath a zeal indeed but it is seditious a Religion but it is Rebellion G. w Now you suffer for righteousnes sake happy is he A. B. Yea but what glory have you if when ye are buffeted for your faults you take it patiently Let none of you suffer as a murderer or as a thief or as an evil doer or as a busie-body in other mens matter Mr. Calamy May I but be respited until to morrow L. M. Yes with all my heart upon your and your friends word Sr. I. B. Remember how you prayed preached and what you did Iune 6. 1641. and what was done Ian. 6. 1644. and I pray speak not with Argyle as you go home Jeremiah 37. 38. Calamy 1 This man seeketh not the welfare of this people but their hurt 1 This man envieth the establishment of this Nation and seeks its hurt 2 Thou fallest away to the Caldeans 2 Thou fallest away to the separation at Hemsted 3 It s false I fall not to the Caldeans 3 It is false I kept no Conventicle at Hemsted 4 Jeremiah said what have I done against thee or against thy servants that I should be put in prison 4 Mr. Calamy said what have I done worthy of imprisonment 5 Let my supplication I pray thee be accepted before thee O King 5 Let my petition be received by your most excellent Majestie 6 Then took they Jeremiah and sent him to the dungeon 6 Then took they M. Calamy sent him to Newgate 7 VVhen Ebedmelech the Ethiopian the chamberlain of the Kings house heard that they put Ieremiah in the dungeon he spake to the King saying my Lord the King these men have done evil in all they have done to Ieremiah the Prophet whom they have cast into the dungeon c. 7 Now when L. Ch. heard that Mr. Calamy was in prison he went to the King and said may it please your Majesty it is pity that reverend Mr. Calamy should be sent to Newgate Paena ad unum terror ad omnes FINIS
silenced Here you onely and a few others are suspended So that now Christ is preached and you may rejoice 4. They were suspended by the prevailing power of oppressions You are silenced by the reasonable power of your own Representatives in Parliament Jewes silenced them without a Law you by a Law which the men you have chosen have made have silenced your selves 5. A necessity which lay upon them who were called of God to reveal the Gospel which was hid from Ages doth not ly upon you who many of you are not so much as called by man to preach that Word which for many years God be thanked hath dwelt richly among us 6. They loved not their life unto the death that they might preach the Gospel you love your opinion so well that you will rather not preach the Gospel then hear it they would not be silenced to save their lives you silence your selves to save your repute and esteem Mr. Calamy O add not reproach unto affliction O Sir we would not have left our callings and stations for fear of death we must now leave them for fear of that which is worse then death we would willingly die rather then not serve the Lord in our calling we must rather not serve the Lord in our calling then sin An honest man Really I am afraid that while you think you avoid sin by refusing Ceremonies which are indifferent you committed sin in neglecting your calling which was necessary Mr. Calamy Let every man be fully perswaded in his own mind what is but indifferent in your apprehension was sinfull in mine and every man must give an account of himself B. S. It is not what you think of the thing imposed can secure your conscience but what they are that which is good remains good and that which is evil evil and that in the very same degree of good and evil as it was before neither better nor worse any mans particular judgement or opinion thereof notwithstanding Mr. Calamy That 's true indeed yet what is good or indifferent in it self If I am perswaded it is evil it is evil unto me to him that esteemeth any thing to be unlawfull to him it is unlawfull Rom. 4. 14. B. S. To him that thinketh a thing unlawfull and is at liberty whether he doth it or no to him it is unlawfull but to him that thinketh a thing unlawfull but yet is enjoyned by lawfull authority to do to him if he hath not a clear rule to the contrary it is lawfull Whatsoever is commanded us by those whom God hath set over us either in Church Common-wealth or Family which is not evidently contrary to the Law and will of God ought to be receivved and obeyed no otherwise then as if God himself had commanded it because God himselfe hath commanded us to obey the Higher Powers and to submit our selves to their Ordinances Rom. 13. 1. 1 Pet. 2. 23. Mr. Calamy I hope I must not go against my Conscience within me to comply mith my Superiours above me B. S. What a strange thing is this that when the blessed Apostle commanded you to obey for conscience sake you should disobey and that for conscience sake too Your Governors charge you upon your Conscience to be obedient and you pretend your conscience to be free from that subjection It is a sad thing that you have brought your selves and other poor souls to such a strait between two sins and you can by no means possible avoid both as long as you persist in this way for if you do the things commanded you go against the perswasion of your own conscience and that is a great sin and if you do them not you disobey lawfull Authority and that is a sin too Mr. Calamy Truely neither fancy faction nor humor makes me not to comply but meerly for fear of offending God And if after the best means used to satisfie my selfe as prayer to God discourse study I was not able to apprehend the lawfullnesse of what was required if it be my unhappinesse to be in an errour surely men will have no reason to be angry with me in this world and I hope God will pardon me in the next Mr. Sprin. When I was called upon either to conforme to the Laws for Uniformity or to leave my Ministry I asked of my self two things Whether I would rather suffer death then use the things imposed in Church professing the foundation and urging them as things indifferent not pressing them as binding conscience in themselves or as needfull to salvation And whether the execution of my Ministry which was pressed upon my conscience with a wo if I neglected it should be as dear to me as my life P. S. Good God to see to what pass small errors have brought us how difference of apprehension hath brought forth difference of judgement and difference of judgement hath brought forth difference of practice and disagreement of affection The difference of practice hath moved Authority to silence and suppress refusers of Conformity The disagreement in affection doth move you who are deprived to speak and act against persons in Authority whereby in the event the course of the Gospel is interrupted and of Popery enlarged the friends of Sion are grieved the enemies rejoyce the enemy of Mankind is gratified and the Lord is displeased the Church is rent with schism the Truth scandalized by dissention the Ministers undone by loss of living and the unity of brethren living in the same house professing the same faith and rejoycing in the same hope is pulled in pieces and this like to continue God knows how long Mr. Calamy It is sad that Magistrates should enjoyn such things as should cause such divisions as cause great thoughts of heart B. S. It is sad indeed that Subjects cannot submit to such things as are enjoyned for peace order and decency L. M. I wonder you should not consider how dangerous it should be to affront the most solemn injunction of the whole Nation a Law so universally desired so deliberately resolved on so seriously pressed as the greatest security of Church or State Mr. Calamy I was several times persecuted for owning his Majestyes Authority and Interest I did not think I should live to be imprisoned for opposing it Sr. T. E. The more favour his Majesty had for you for former service the more sorry he is that you have forfeited it by your present indiscretion His Majestie thought that Mr. Calamy would not have done so of any man in England Mr. Calamy Really I did not do it upon mine own head but upon the request of divers honourable and worthy persons who were otherwise like to be disappointed of a morning Sermon Sr. R. B. It is generally reported and upon the extraordinary concourse of people to your Church as generally believed that it was designed before hand several Citizens inviting one another to your Church to hear you preach Mr. Calamy It might be a design upon me it