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A41816	The separation of the Church of Rome from the Church of England founded upon a selfish and unchristian interest. By a presbyter in the Diocess of Canterbury. Febr. 28. 1689/90. Imprimatur, Z. Isham, R.P.D. Henrico Episc. Lond à sacris.	Grascome, Samuel, 1641-1708?	1691 (1691)	Wing G1578A; ESTC R218847	114,589	226

such turn away Actual Separation therefore may sometimes be a Duty when it is a Departure from those who have before departed from the Right and violated the Unity and corrupted the Communion of the Church But being there ought to be no Separation but upon the score of Avoiding Obligations to Sin and no further then may secure us in that matter there can be no Separation but there will be Sin on the one side or the other And being the bare Separation may not only be lawful but duty the Sin of Schism must Lie where the cause and evil is found and they are the Schismaticks who unjustly cause the Breach And indeed simple Separation doth not include the whole Nature of Schism in an Eccl●siastical Sense For though those who depart from any true Church of God as it is a part of the Catholick Church do break off from the Body yet those who depart upon just and warrantable Grounds though they depart from the Schismaticks yet they do not fo sake the Church of God but continue in its Communion and are Members of that Body and therefore cannot be Schismaticks But I need not Discourse this any further because I think it is Agreed on all Hands that the Sin of Schism follows the Cause Now from all that hath been said this or the like Definition of Schism may be Gathered That it is an unjust Violation Breach or Solution of the Unity of the Church Or to express it more plainly a Causeless Separation from Ecclesiastical Communion XI How far some more moderate Person in the Church of Rome may be willing to go along with Me in these Considerations I cannot tell the Generality of them I know go further but that will not be the least part of that Controversie However here we must part But because I do prosess my self a Person who doth deeply Mourn over that dismal state of the Church to which these Divisions have brought it and that God who knows the Secrets of all Hearts knows that I say true and do wish an End of their Broils and would Contribute the utmost of my Endeavors to Repair the Breaches And do moreover freely confess That Schism is a Sin of a very dangerous Nature it will therefore Concern Me to discharge my self from being either a Partner in or an Abettor of that Mischievous Evil of which I Complain And therefore now I shall endeavour to prove not only that the Cause of the Schism between the Church of England and the Church of Rome lyes at the Church of Rome's door But further that let them pretend what they will that Schism was first made and still Maintained and Upheld for such Reasons as ought to be Strangers to the Christian Religion and do drive on and keep up such an unwarrantable and fulsom Interest as is not Consistent with the true state of Gods Church If any Man shall give me better Information upon due Consideration I shall be willing to receive it and thankful for it But if any Man shall please to set himself against Me I would desire him to deal with Me as a Man who is of the Communion of the Chu●ch of England in sense of duty who never gave u● my self to any particular Party of Men and who in all my Studies have had a Special Eye to the Advancement of the Peace of Gods Church and the Satisfaction of my own Conscience CHAP. IV. Of the Liberties and Priviledges of the Britannick Churches And of the Actual Separation HE who would Build true will first clear the Ground And therefore I must crave leave to Remove some old Rubbish out of my way before I can descend to some such particular Matters for I pretend not to take in all as I think may Justifie that Separation which we now Maintain for we are not the Men who made it but defend that Church which we found and were born and bred in and therefore ought not to desert it without just Cause Two things with no lack of Confidence are Urged as a Prejudice against our whole Cause First That these Churches and even all their Bishops did owe a particular Subjection to the Bishop of Rome either as Sole V●c●r and Plenipot●ntiary of Christ Jesus on Earth or at least as the Western Pat●iarch Secondly that supposing this to be otherwise yet since the Separation Matters have been decided by a General Council viz. That of Trent to which all ought to submit I shall Endeavor to give a fair Answer to both these Objections But first must premise That supposing not granting the truth of either or both these Objections yet of themselves they do ●ot overthrow our Cause for no Plea of any exorbitant Authority or Conciliar Determination can oblige us to a Sinful Communion And if that Plea be made good against them all their other Arguments Vanish into Air For the Holy Ghost never Assisted any Council to make wicked Determinations Nor did the Ancients know of any such Exotick Power in the Pope as that he might be Obeyed in every thing for though several Matters contributed to gain him an extraordinary Respect in and Influence on the Church yet they held him to the Canons And if he deviated from them or the Truth they without scruple opposed him When Basilides and Martialis two Spanish Bishops justly deposed fled to Stephen Bishop of Rome And by Lyes and Flattery so prevailed with him that he not only admitted them to Communion but endeavored to restore them St. Cyprian smartly opposeth it writes not only to the Bishops but even to the People there to refuse Communion with them Commends the Substituting two other Bishops in their Room and says That the Faults of Basilides in Endeavoring his Restitution by Stephen's means were Non tam abobita quàm cumulata Epist 68. dd Pam. I could bring Instances enough of this kind but this being a by-matter in this place I will leave it and Return to the Objections II. Two Titles are set up the better to secure us But the one is purely forged and the other is crackt weak and bad and not able to support the Claim which is Founded on it It is hard to say what Authority the Bishop of Rome doth not Challenge under the Notion of Christs Vicar His Flatterers will scarce allow any Bounds to be Set to it and Examine his Actions and you will find that he Sets himself none On this score not only we but all the Christian Churches in the World which are not of the Roman Communion are stigmatized for Schismaticks On the contrary I think that there is no one thing that doth better Justify our Separation then the Challenge and what in him lies Exercise of such an Arbitrary and boundless Authority over all the Churches of God Upon this Account this Matter will fall under a particular Consideration as one of the principal Grounds and Reasons of our Separation And therefore at present I will leave this great Vicar-General and

their Authority is the greatest of any Men on Earth God I think would not suffer such Men so qualified to deceive us in any thing of necessity to Salvation and therefore they are not lightly to be regarded And if th●se things could be truly said for the Councel of Tr●●t I should have a better esteem for it then I am like to have in ●aste Put on the other Hand ●f any Pastors of the Church how many soever though never so able and industrious Meet together and be not Honest and Sincere but at least by the prevailing Number for base Interest labour by subtile and unworthy Arts not to Amend but Establish gross Errours Abuses and Corruptions These Men not only Offer the greatest Affront to God and his Christ but Attempt to put th● most pernicious Cheat upon the Christian World And in stead of Assistance from God they may rather expect that in Judgement he should give them over to strong delusions to believe a Lye And these are to be A●ominated and with as great indignation Rejected as good and lawful Councels are with Reverence to be received and followed And in which of these Rancks the Councel of Trent ought to stand I shall now Enquire VI. And in the first place it may not be Amiss to Consider what time was taken to Frame and Mould this Councel to the Popes Mind The Councels of Constance and Basil having Eclipsed the Roman See in the very Height of its Greatness and Glory the Popes ever since have looked with a maligne Aspect upon General Councels and the very Naming one was enough to put any of them into a Fit of a Feavour And indeed this made following Councels not only useless but noxious For if the Necessities of the Church seemed at any time to Require a General Councel the Pope would never suffer it to be but in such place that he could Command And always took care that it should Consist of such Persons who at least for the greater Number were at his devotion And yet even then was wofully uneasie till it was Finished so unwilling are Popes to trust themselves with a Councel though themselves have the packing of it But that Spark which first fell through the Clashing of Luther and the Pardonmongers being blown to such a Flame that no Common Help could quench it a General Councel seemed necessary But to Manage it for the Advantage of the Roman See and to hold it in convenient place was a Matter of no small difficulty in such times of Confusion so that it seemed to be as dangerous to the Pope as it was necessary for the Church It was well for the Court of Rome that the greatest Princes of those times were perswaded that it was the Popes Right though meerly Founded upon Usurpation● to Call General Councels For by this means they gained time to Fit Matters for their Turn And yet though the most Refined Politicians in the World it was not a little time did serve their Turn For though the Popes successively seemed daily willing that so they might stop Mens Mouths and Gratifie their Importunity yet was it not less then Twenty seven yeares before these perfect Crafts-Masters could Contrive Matters to their Mind and then too they were rather Necessitated then willing and in no small fear that their Wings would be Clipt Luthers first Appeal to a ●eneral Councel which was quickly followed with the desires of all Germany was in the Year 1518. But the Councel of Trent did not open till the 13th of December 1545. So long did this Compassionate Successor of St. Peter suffer the Wounds of the Church to Lye Bleeding and at last only Cured them as Chyrurgions do Gangrenes by Cutting off the Members As for the Indictions at Mantua and Vicenza I make no Account of them for as it may Reasonably be suspected that they were only Shams to gain time so had either taken effect it is certain it was a Device to keep the Councel in greater Slavery then it was at Trent though it was so great there that little good could be expected from it as shall presently appear And now after so long Plotting having got something like a Councel in a frightful place at a time when Christian Princes were most jealous of each other and the Pope had Leasure and Opportunity to play his Game Let us enquire into its State and Actions And if just Exceptions cannot be brought against it let it take place VII I do not pretend to bring all the just Exceptions which may be Alledged against the Councel of Trent It is sufficient if those few I shall bring or any one of them be so material and to the purpose as to Justify our Rejecting it Now the first Quarrel I have against them is that the prevailing Part all along carried on a Design to betray the Liberties of all the Churches and the Power of all Bishops to the Pope and to make him the absolute Monarch of the whole Church And what good can we expect from Men who were Traitors to their own Order But though there could be no greater baseness and falseness then such a Design yet it must be Confessed that never was an Intrigue Managed more Neatly or more Slily brought about for they never Offer to put his Supremacy to the Vote nor by any express Canon or Decree declare or give it him for that might have Awakened the Sleeping Bishops and Alarm'd the World and perhaps they might not have Carried it Or if they had yet what one Councel gave another might take away At least he must have been beholding to them and held it as their Gift which would not do the Pope's Business But more craftily whilest the Councel was intent upon other Matters they upon all Occasions Slu●r in such words into the Decrees and Canons which though nothing to the purpose as to the Matter to be decided and therefore in all likelihood little Heeded yet might infer the Pope's Supremacy by an Antecedent or Divine Right And thus they insensibly put him out of the Reach of all Councels and did their Work more effectually then if they had spoke never so plainly Those who Heedfully Read over the Canons and Decrees of the Councel of Trent may furnish themselves with plenty of Instances To Avoid Tediousness I shall only mention some few For a Trial how this would glide down the Decree for Reformation is Ushered in with these words Eadem SS Synodus Piis Summorum Pontificum Probatorum Conciliorum Constitutionibus inhaerens Sess 5. cap. 1. Here the Pope is not only put before the Councels but that ye might see by what Right he is Adorned with the Epithet Summus And though the Councels are suffered to wait on-him yet it is with a Restriction they must be such as are Probata Now what those are and who shall have the Approving them any Man may guess without being suspected for a Conjurer For with them the meanest Provincial Councel