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A43281 The paradoxal discourses of F.M. Van Helmont concerning the macrocosm and microcosm, or, The greater and lesser world and their union set down in writing by J.B. and now published.; Paradoxale discoursen ofte ongemeene meeningen van de groote en kleyne wereld en speciaal van de wederkeeringe der menschelijke zielen. English Helmont, Franciscus Mercurius van, 1614-1699.; J. B. 1685 (1685) Wing H1393; ESTC R9542 180,034 376

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