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A75398 The answer of the Commissioners of the Navie, to a scandalous pamphlet, published by Mr Andrewes Burrell. England and Wales. Commissioners of the Admiralty and the Navy. 1646 (1646) Wing A3289; Thomason E340_31; ESTC R200889 31,218 38

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