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A62179 The cruell subtilty of ambtioin [sic] discovered in a discourse concerning the King of Spaines surprizing the Valteline / written in Italian by the author of the Historie of the Counsell of Trent ; translated by the renowned Sir Thomas Roe, Knight ... with his epistle to the House of Commons in Parliament ...; Discorso sopra le ragioni della resolutione fatta in Val Telina contra la tirannide de' Grisoni & heretici.. English Sarpi, Paolo, 1552-1623.; Roe, Thomas, Sir, 1581?-1644. 1650 (1650) Wing S695; ESTC R9079 64,072 117

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Which therefore being well considered might produce ●conorary effect●● For if the most Christian King shall once resoluo himself●● to carry the warne abrond he shall rest most scoure and qu●et within his owne Kingdome The gne●● and warlike mindes of the French Nobilitio borne to Armes and Eli●t●●p●is●●● cannot lie wasting in I dienesse While they haue not elsewhere to bee exercised it is no wonder that at ho●● they may be easily excited to tumults But if they shall bee imployed in fora●●● Actions they will ronne greddy●● victorins and glory of which they are most ambitiour And will desire like wise men that their owne Country should rost in peace to bee the more able with their Sword to subdue others not will they suffer themselues to bee disturbed by the treacherous ma●hinations of them who affect th●● ruine But this is spoken by the way by occasion of the like stratagom at present used among the Grisoms the which ●eeing it hath begunne to take effect in the Valteline the Gouernour of Millan is leapt into the field not with intent to sauour but to opprosse the party risen yet to giue another relish Proposing still this axio●●e of Machianell that feined Roligion doth much aduantage the Actions of Princer he would make the world beleaue that he was moued with pittio to take the protection of the miserable Valtelines oppressed as saith the Manifest in Religion and politike life Of which two things it is now requisite distinctly to entreate The Grisons doe pretend that if God when hee ereued man loft him in the state of free will the Conscience ought to be free no man being able to take away that which is the gift of the Diuine Maiestie They esteeme their Condition to be most wretched and miserable who are violently forced to professe to beleeue that which their Conscience truely doth not beleeue and therefore they require libertie of Religion They are diuided into Roman and Euangelique euery one follower that part to which his Conscience ●●olineth him Euery one doth beleeue hee beleeues well and sinnes mortally when he doth transgresse from that ancient Institution wherein he was borne and bred Violence is done to no man In the publike Gouernment aswell the one as the other doe participate without any Distinction Now the Ministers of your Maiestie say as may be need in the Manifect that the Professers of the Ramish Religion haue no more libertie to follow their true faith because the contrary faction doth tyr●●nously oppresse them And h●●● they alleage many violent Action● which if in case some are true certainly they are not happened but for grieuous Iniuries and offences first done by the Romanists to the Euangeliques but the truth is that the most part of them are false the effect to this day hath shewed it to be most false that euer the Euangeliques did attempt to oppresse the Romanists Vpon which for better illustration wee will with reason discourse a little in the fauour of truth These two Factions Roman and Euangelique either are equall or the one is superiour to the other If they are equall euery one doe persist in their own opinion it being certaine that in their D●●●● called by them Dritu●● the Ministers of the one and the other equally are assistant of necessiti● it must bee said that when any thing is handled which doth preiudine the one or the other there can noues be any agreement But seeing they doe accord as it appeares by the Diett of Tosana in the yeare 1618. in which so many Rebells as well Romans as Euangeliques without all respect were punished Then it must be concluded not to bee true that they practise one to preindice the other Then it is salse that the Euangeliques doe oppresse the Romanists But who shall say that the one is too strong and doth persecure the other How is it that in so many and so many yeares that part hath not vsurped the absolute dominion If the Roman preuaile how doe they consent that their Clergia men should bee chastised and as your Maiesties Ministem affirme in despight of Religion If the Euangelique be superiour how can it stand that putting to death the Arch Priest of Sondrie and exiling the Bishop of Coura for being of the Roman Religion afterward they admitted another Bishop and another Arch-Priest of the same Religion And why did they condemne only those two and not many other good and truely religious men of which in that State there are multitudes Let it bee then said not to be a truth that the Euangeliques doe persecute the Romanists And if the aforesaid Clergie-men haue suffered the trespasses by them committed in communem patriam did cause that with Common consent aswell of the Catholique Romans as of the Euangeliques they haue beene punished as it is notorious by the aforementioned writing of the yeare 1618. And that it was not done in the hatred of Religion may more clearely from this be discerned that amongst the accused and condemned there were many more Euangeliques then Romans Whence it is euident that with all integritie and without any respect those of the Euangelique faction haue onely aymed not sparing themselues at the administration of Iustice And Rodolfo Planta that then was banished as it knowne to all men was not onely an Heretique but a principall Head of the Heretiques With two things about this Subiect the World is greatly amazed and scandalized The one that the Ministers of your Maiestie in the Manifest printed by them for the Valtelines haue dared to giue the title of a true Martyr of Christ to the Arch priest of Sondrio a man blood-thirsty and a Traitor to his Prince whence it appeares that onely for being their fauourer he obtained the merit to be Canonised for a Saint The other is that they haue alwayes held so strict Intelligence with Rodelfo Planta and other principall Heretiques and haue fauoured and stipendiated them both before and after their Banishment and haue made vse and yet doe vse them continually in matters very indecent Neither doe they make at all scruple of Conscience thereof though they publikely proclaime themselues Protectors of the Religion and perperuall Enemies of all Heretiques If the wonder and Se●md●ll bee iust I remit it to the Righteous Iudgement and prudent mind of your Maiestie I expect that connicted with the force of these reasons some should step forth and say That when notwithstanding the Euangeliques doe not leeke to oppresse the Romanists and doe suffer euery one to liue to himselfe yet by all meane it is requisite to extirpate the ill race of Heretiques Enemies to holy Church I vnwillingly enter into this particular but of force the matter requires that somewhat therein bee spoken I doe beleeue and I thinke am not deceiued that to punish Heretiques the Ecclesiasticall authoritie is necessary How then will the Ministers of your Maiestie intermeddle in that which to them appertaines not And who will not say that greedinesse to vsurpe the State of others doth moue them also to vsurp the Pontisisall Iurisdiction O