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A11510 A discourse vpon the reasons of the resolution taken in the Valteline against the tyranny of the Grisons and heretiques To the most mighty Catholique King of Spaine, D. Phillip the Third. VVritten in Italian by the author of the Councell of Trent. And faithfully translated into English. With the translators epistle to the Commons House of Parliament.; Discorso sopra le ragioni della resolutione fatta in Val Telina contra la tirannide de' Grisoni & heretici.. English Sarpi, Paolo, 1552-1623.; Roe, Thomas, Sir, 1581?-1644.; Philo-Britannicos. 1628 (1628) STC 21757A; ESTC S116780 64,044 104

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produce a contrary effect For if the most Christian King shall once resolue himselfe to carry the warre abroad he shall rest most secure and quiet within his owne Kingdome The great and warlike mindes of the French Nobilitie borne to Armes and Enterprises cannot lie wasting in Idlenesse While they haue not elsewhere to bee exercised it is no wonder that at home they may be easily excited to tumults But if they shall bee imployed in foraine Actions they will runne greedily to victories and glory of which they are most ambitious And will desire like wise men that their owne Country should rest in peace to bee the more able with their Sword to subdue others not will they suffer themselues to bee disturbed by the treacherous machinations of them who affect their ruine But this is spoken by the way by occasion of the like stratagem at present used among the Grisons the which seeing it hath begunne to take effect in the Valteline the Gouernour of Millan is le●pt into the field not with intent to fauour but to oppresse the party risen yet to giue another relish Preposing still this axiome of Machiauell that feined Religion doth much aduantage the Actions of Princes hee would make the world beleeue that he was moued with pietie to take the protection of the miserable Valtelines oppressed as saith the Manifest in Religion and politike life Of which two things it is now requisite distinctly to entreate The Grisons doe pretend that if God when hee created man left him in the state of free will the Conscience ought to be free no man being able to take away that which is the gift of the Diuine Maiestie They esteeme their Condition to be most wretched and miserable who are violently forced to professe to beleeue that which their Conscience truely doth not beleeue and therefore they require libertie of Religion They are diuided into Roman and Euangelique euery one followes that part to which his Conscience enclineth him Euery one doth beleeue hee beleeues well and sinnes mortally when he doth transgresse from that ancient Institution wherein he was borne and bred Violence is done to no man In the publike Gouernment aswell the one as the other doe participate without any Distinction Now the Ministers of your Maiestie say as may be read in the Manifect that the Professors of the Romish Religion haue no more libertie to follow their true saith because the contrary faction doth tyrannously oppresse them And here they alleage many violent Actions which if in case some are true certainly they are not happened but for grieuous Iniuries and offences first done by the Romanist● to the Euangeliques but the truth is that the most part of them are false the effect to this day hath shewed it to be most false that euer the Euangeliques did attempt to oppresse the Romanists Vpon which for better illustration wee will with reason discourse a little in the fauour of truth These two Factions Roman and Euangelique either are equall or the one is superiour to the other If they are equall euery one doe persist in their own opinion it being certaine that in their Di●ts called by them Dritture the Ministers of the one and the other equally are assistant of necessitie it must bee said that when any thing is handled which doth preiudice the one or the other there can neuer be any agreement But seeing they doe accord as it appeares by the Diett of Tosana in the yeare 1618. in which so many Rebells as well Romans as Euangeliques without all respect were punished Then it must be concluded not to bee true that they practise one to preiudice the other Then it is false that the Euangeliques doe oppresse the Romanists But who shall say that the one is too strong and doth persecute the other How is it that in so many and so many yeares that part hath not vsurped the absolute dominion If the Roman preuaile how doe ●hey consent that their Clergie men should bee ch●stised and as your Maiesties Ministers affirme in despight of Religion If the Euangelique be superiour how can it stand that putting to death the Arch-Priest of Sondrio and exiling the Bishop of C●ira for being of the Roman Religion afterward they admitted another Bishop and another Arch-Priest of the same Religion And why did they condemne only those two and not many other good and truely religious men of which in that State there are multitudes Let it bee then said not to be a truth that the Euangeliques doe persecute the Romanists And if the aforesaid Clergie-men haue suffered the trespasses by them committed in communem patriam did cause that with Common consent aswell of the Catholique Romans as of the Euangeliques they haue beene punished as it is notorious by the aforementioned writing of the yeare 1618. And that it was not done in the hatred of Religion may more clearely from this be discerned that amongst the accused and condemned there were many more Euangeliques then Romans Whence it is euident that with all integritie and without any respect those of the Euangelique faction haue onely aymed not sparing themselues at the administration of Iustice And Rodolfo Planta that then was banished as is knowne to all men was not onely an Heretique but a principall Head of the Heretiques With two things about this Subiect the World is greatly amazed and scandalized The one that the Ministers of your Maiestie in the Manifest printed by them for the Valtolines haue dared to giue the title of a true Martyr of Christ to the Arch-priest of Sondrio a man blood-thirsty and a Traitor to his Prince whence it appeares that onely for being their fauourer he obtained the merit to be Canonised for a Saint The other is that they haue alwayes held so strict Intelligence with Rodolfo Planta and other principall Heretiques and haue fauoured and stipendiated them both before and after their Banishment and haue made vse and yet doe vse them continually in matters very indecent Neither doe they make at all scruple of Conscience thereof though they publikely proclaime themselues Protectors of the Religion and perpetuall Enemies of all Heretiques If the wonder and Scandall bee iust I remit it to the Righteous Iudgement and prudent mind of your Maiestie I expect that conuicted with the force of these reasons some should step forth and say That when notwithstanding the Euangeliques doe not seeke to oppresse the Romanists and doe suffer euery one to liue to himselfe yet by all meanes it is requisite to extirpate the ill race of Heretiques Enemies to holy Church I vnwillingly enter into this particular but of force the matter requires that somewhat therein bee spoken I doe beleeue and I thinke am not deceiued that to punish Heretiques the Ecclesiasticall authoritie is necessary How then will the Ministers of your Maiestie intermeddle in that which to them appertaines not And who will not say that greedinesse to vsu●pe the State of others doth moue them also to vsurp the Ponti●icall Iurisdiction O