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A57864 A vindication of the Church of Scotland being an answer to a paper, intituled, Some questions concerning Episcopal and Presbyterial government in Scotland : wherein the latter is vindicated from the arguments and calumnies of that author, and the former is made appear to be a stranger in that nation/ by a minister of the Church of Scotland, as it is now established by law. Rule, Gilbert, 1629?-1701. 1691 (1691) Wing R2231; ESTC R6234 39,235 42

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