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A14450 A learned and excellent treatise containing all the principall grounds of Christian religion Set downe by way of conference in a most plaine and familiar manner. Written first in French by maister Mathew Virell, after translated into Latine: and now turned into English for the vse of our country-men.; Religion chrestienne declarée par dialogue. English Virel, Matthieu.; Egerton, Stephen, 1555?-1621? 1594 (1594) STC 24768; ESTC S119631 209,162 292

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Concerning the brasen serpent 2. Kin. 18 4. Ezechias is in that behalfe specially commended of the holy Ghost for that he brake it because after a sort it was worshipped of the people Now therefore with what face dare they alledge these examples to vphold their images set vp contrarie to the expresse commandement of God seeing especially there is so filthy an abuse of them vnto all kind of idolatrie Theoph. But what did the Cherubins and the brasen serpent signifie Math. Euerie Cherubin had foure wings with two they couered their face whereby was taught that the Angels them selues be so stricken with that brightnesse of the diuine Maiestie that they cannot endure it and so be cōpelled to couer their faces with the other two wings they couered the mercie seate which was vpon the Arke to instruct vs that God is incomprehensible and therefore ought not to be represented by anie humaine likenesse Touching the brasen serpent God signified by it that all they whom that old serpent namely the deuill with whose poyson and that indeed deadly we are infected through sinne had bitten were healed so as by faith they do flie vnto Christs death For the brasen Serpent was a figure of Christ as the Lord himselfe teacheth in these words As Moses lifted Iohn 3. 14. vp the serpent in the wildernesse so must the Sonne of man bee lifted vp that who soeuer beleeueth in him should not perish but haue life euerlasting Theoph. The third obiection I am satisfied for the second obiection the third is behind wherin they alledge almost innumerable miracles which were wrought in fauour of the worshippers of Idols and for the punishment of such as despised them Matth. The answer Although I might most worthely reiect the greatest part of those miracles as false and fayned yet will I grant this that they may be all taken for miracles indeed But what can they build with them might not the Heathen boast the selfe same things of their Idols Valer. M●… lib. 1. Cap. ● Let prophane histories bee read they will affoord infinite examples of those things neither indeede is it maruell For the deuill to the ende he might establish his owne false doctrine would therein followe God Theoph. How Matth. As God when hee meant to open his trueth vnto men sent foorth true Prophets and Apostles to preach it and furnished them with the power of the holy Ghost that they might confirme it by sundrie miracles So the deuill the father of lyes assayed the same thing when he would bring in Idolatrie and superstitiō into the world For he raised vp false Prophets and Apostles to preach it and put into them the power of working miracles for the confirmation of it Hereupon it is that Christ warneth vs diligently to take heede of Mat. 24. 24. false Prophets who saith he shall do great signes and miracles so as they shall deceiue if it might be the verie elect Whereunto also may be applied the saying of the Apostle speaking of Antechrist Whose cōming 2. Thes 2. 9. is by the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders Theoph. Why doth the Apostle call them lying wonders Matth. Not so much to note the falshood of them as to giue vs to vnderstand of the ende whereat those miracles do shoot And that is to confirme most false and lying doctrine such as are Idolatrie and superstitiō which are directly contrary vnto Gods word which indeed ought to be vnto vs in stead of a touchstone by the which to discerne true miracles from false that we be not deceiued by them Theoph. Thou thinkest therefore that all miracles which serue to confirme false doctrine are wrought by the deuill and therefore to be refused as lyes and done to deceiue Matth. I thinke so And for this cause doth the Lord warne vs by Moses if there arise in the middest of vs a Deut. 13. 1. 2. 3. Prophet that foresheweth things to come or sheweth anie other signes for this purpose to turne vs aside frō his worship that we do not heare such a Prophet for the Lord your God saith he proueth you to see whether you loue him with all your heart Theoph. But howe can the deuill haue the power to worke miracles which appertaineth onely to God Matth. The Lord looseth the bridle vnto him and giueth that power that he may auenge him selfe vpon those which despise and refuse his truth of whom Paule thus writeth Therefore will the Lord send them the 2. The. 2. 11 strength of delusion that they may beleeue lyes Theoph. Thou hast now satisfied me concerning the first part of this commaundement and those abuses haue bene discussed in it which are wont to be brought into the worship of God but chiefly the greatest amōg them namely Idolatrie It remaineth therfore that we The other part of the 2. commandement come to the other part to the end we may know what is to bee done in the outward seruice of God that is framed according to his owne will Matth. That is when a worship is giuen both agreeable to his nature and acceptable to his Maiestie Theop. What is that worship or adoration agreeable to the nature of God Math. Of spiritual worship It is taught of Christ himself Ioh. 4. 23. speaking to that woman of Samaria he saith The houre commeth and now is when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirite and truth for the Father requireth euen such to worship him Now he opposeth or setteth spirituall worship which God requireth against carnall worship deuised by men which because it is answerable to their carnal and corrupt nature maruellously pleaseth themselues but doth most of all displease God that is a spirite Yea indeed no worship but spirituall is acceptable vnto him Theoph. Now it is to be seene wherein that adoration or spirituall worship standeth Mat. Sincere prayer is the chiefe part of it whether it be publi●e or priuate when our hearts be lift vp vnto God with a pure cōscience all things being taken away that may withdraw or estrange our mindes from him as images candles and such other inuentions of men falling downe vpon our knees our heads vncouered and hands lifted vp to heauen Theoph. Are not kneeling vncouering of the head lifting the hands vp to heauen carnall ceremonies Matth. No in no wise For we call them carnall ceremonies that were deuised by men and such as tye our mindes to these earthly things but these are both ordained of God and do bring forth farre diuers or vnlike effects For they call our mindes from these earthly and fraile things and do lift them vp to true pietie and spirituall meditation Theoph Is there nothing else required to worship God spiritually besides the things which thou hast reckened vp Mat. There is somwhat else required namely that we do heare his word receaue the Sacraments with humblenesse and reuerence of mind
in vs to lead our liues in the obedience of God strengtheneth vs and finally giueth vs the gift of perseuerance to the end Cōfirmeth me against all temptations If at any time I fall it raiseth me vp by true repentance and promiseth to be with me with his grace euen vnto death The holy Catholicke Church I beleeue the Catholick Church gathered together by the power of the holy Ghost that is to say the company of the faithfull chosen of God which are scattered throughout the whole world of whose number I do certainly know my selfe to be one I beleeue that all we which are faithful are so vnited The cōmuniō of saints and ioyned with Christ our head that we are made partakers of his gifts that is of the merite of his death and the power of his resurrection The remission of sins Resurection of the body The life euerlasting Whereupon I am assured of the full forgiuenesse of my sinnes and of my glorious resurrection in the last day which the partaking of eternall life shall follow together with all the faithfull and elect with whom he shall for euer be praysed of me in the heauens Theoph. I haue verily heard of thee an excellent Paraphrasis or short exposition of the Apostles Creede such a one as doth not a little serue for edification But that thou mayst prouide for and helpe the memorie of the vnlearned draw all this into as short a summe as thou canst Mat. The summe of the Creede It cannot be made shorter then if thou say I put the whole hope of my saluatiō in one Iesus Christ crucified who being giuen vnto me by the mercie of the Father communicateth himselfe vnto me by the power of the holy Ghost to make me partaker of the merite of his death and also of eternall life Now this agreeth with that which the Apostle saith 1. Cor. 2. 2. I determined to know nothing among you but Iesus Christ and him crucified Theoph. I am fully satisfied with this exposition of the Apostles Creede and it containeth many things which bring no small comfort to the hearers And I pray our good and heauenly Father to engraue them in our hearts by the working of the holy Ghost that so we may earnestly acknowledge stedfastly beleeue that immeasurable loue wherewith he loueth vs in Christ Iesus By whō he hath redeemed vs from euerlasting death and hath taken vs for his children that at length we may be heires of his kingdome Mat. But now night draweth on wherefore I would aduise that we put off the rest till to morow Farewell Theophilus Theoph. Fare thou well also Matthew The end of the first Booke THE SECOND BOOKE OF CHRISTIAN Religion wherein the testimonies of our saluation are declared CHAP. I. Of good workes by the which the faith that is hidden in our hearts is manifested that it may be seene and knowne Theophilus GOd saue thee most dearely beloued Matthew Mat. God saue thee also most louing Theophilus hast thou thought vpon the things which were handled of vs yesterday Theoph. Yea indeede most diligently in somuch as they occupied my mind in my sleepe wherof to make proofe if it be not troublesome to thee I will comprehend them in a short summe which shal be as an entrance for vs to the rest Mat. Thou shalt do me a very great pleasure Theoph. The summe of our speach yesterday may be referred to foure heads 1 The first whereof is of God distinct in three persons Who also by his prouidence gouerneth all things is most perfectly iust and most perfectly mercifull 2 The second is of man who being by his owne nature a most wretched sinner is guiltie of eternall death before the iudgement seate of God 3 The third is of Christ Iesus whose death is a most present remedie for vs against death 4 The fourth is of faith wherby that remedy is applied to vs for our saluation Now vnlesse I be deceiued order requireth that we speake of good works which do necessarily cleaue vnto faith be effectes of it Moreouer seeing in the first Chapter of the former booke it hath bene declared what manner one God is and in the third and fourth Chapters what a one he sheweth himselfe towards vs this one thing seemeth now to remaine that we vnderstand how we should carrie our selues toward him that is to say what works are to be done of vs that we may obey him and be acceptable to his Maiestie Mat. Thou hast verie well deliuered the summe of our yesterdayes talke I do also allow the order propounded by thee concerning good works This one thing remaineth that thou moue thy questions of thē in some easie method to the end that this place which of it selfe is somwhat intricate and doubtfull may be plainly and clearely handled of vs. Theoph. I haue no easier order then that which somtimes I learned of thee namely that all this discourse be brought vnto three heads 1 First what be the good works to be done of vs that we may please God 2 How those works may be performed of vs. 3 And thirdly to what end they must be done and what is the vse of them But in the former booke when we spake of regeneration we did sufficiently discusse that second point For we taught that man of himselfe could do no good thing and that God by his spirite wrought in vs both to will and to be able to do There are therefore behind the two other points to be examined of vs which will cause vs to deuide this Chapter into two parts if it so seeme good vnto thee The first part of this Chapter sheweth what good workes are to be done of vs. Theoph. Let vs therfore come to the first part namely what good works are to be done that we may obey God Matth. Before we go any further we are to call vpon him without whose guidance no good thing can be thought much lesse performed of vs. I do therefore pray our good God and heauenly Father to giue vs the spirite of wisedome and vnderstanding that the things which we shal speake of good works may agree with the truth so as they may tend to his glorie and the building vp of his Church Now Theophilus do I answer vnto thy question that we must do those good works to obey God which himselfe hath commanded in his owne Law Theoph. Why so Mat. For he hath plainly forbidden that any thing be added vnto it or taken from it and that any man should turne aside from it either to the right hand or Deut. 4. 2. Deut. 5. 32. to the left Theoph. What if men be so rash that they dare do it Mat. The Lord will not accept their foolish deuises for good works but will demand of them that which in former times he demanded of the Israelites Isay 1. 12. Who required these things at your hands Theoph. I confesse it to be a most