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A14450 A learned and excellent treatise containing all the principall grounds of Christian religion Set downe by way of conference in a most plaine and familiar manner. Written first in French by maister Mathew Virell, after translated into Latine: and now turned into English for the vse of our country-men.; Religion chrestienne declarée par dialogue. English Virel, Matthieu.; Egerton, Stephen, 1555?-1621? 1594 (1594) STC 24768; ESTC S119631 209,162 292

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Concerning the brasen serpent 2. Kin. 18 4. Ezechias is in that behalfe specially commended of the holy Ghost for that he brake it because after a sort it was worshipped of the people Now therefore with what face dare they alledge these examples to vphold their images set vp contrarie to the expresse commandement of God seeing especially there is so filthy an abuse of them vnto all kind of idolatrie Theoph. But what did the Cherubins and the brasen serpent signifie Math. Euerie Cherubin had foure wings with two they couered their face whereby was taught that the Angels them selues be so stricken with that brightnesse of the diuine Maiestie that they cannot endure it and so be cōpelled to couer their faces with the other two wings they couered the mercie seate which was vpon the Arke to instruct vs that God is incomprehensible and therefore ought not to be represented by anie humaine likenesse Touching the brasen serpent God signified by it that all they whom that old serpent namely the deuill with whose poyson and that indeed deadly we are infected through sinne had bitten were healed so as by faith they do flie vnto Christs death For the brasen Serpent was a figure of Christ as the Lord himselfe teacheth in these words As Moses lifted Iohn 3. 14. vp the serpent in the wildernesse so must the Sonne of man bee lifted vp that who soeuer beleeueth in him should not perish but haue life euerlasting Theoph. The third obiection I am satisfied for the second obiection the third is behind wherin they alledge almost innumerable miracles which were wrought in fauour of the worshippers of Idols and for the punishment of such as despised them Matth. The answer Although I might most worthely reiect the greatest part of those miracles as false and fayned yet will I grant this that they may be all taken for miracles indeed But what can they build with them might not the Heathen boast the selfe same things of their Idols Valer. M●… lib. 1. Cap. ● Let prophane histories bee read they will affoord infinite examples of those things neither indeede is it maruell For the deuill to the ende he might establish his owne false doctrine would therein followe God Theoph. How Matth. As God when hee meant to open his trueth vnto men sent foorth true Prophets and Apostles to preach it and furnished them with the power of the holy Ghost that they might confirme it by sundrie miracles So the deuill the father of lyes assayed the same thing when he would bring in Idolatrie and superstitiō into the world For he raised vp false Prophets and Apostles to preach it and put into them the power of working miracles for the confirmation of it Hereupon it is that Christ warneth vs diligently to take heede of Mat. 24. 24. false Prophets who saith he shall do great signes and miracles so as they shall deceiue if it might be the verie elect Whereunto also may be applied the saying of the Apostle speaking of Antechrist Whose cōming 2. Thes 2. 9. is by the working of Sathan with all power and signes and lying wonders Theoph. Why doth the Apostle call them lying wonders Matth. Not so much to note the falshood of them as to giue vs to vnderstand of the ende whereat those miracles do shoot And that is to confirme most false and lying doctrine such as are Idolatrie and superstitiō which are directly contrary vnto Gods word which indeed ought to be vnto vs in stead of a touchstone by the which to discerne true miracles from false that we be not deceiued by them Theoph. Thou thinkest therefore that all miracles which serue to confirme false doctrine are wrought by the deuill and therefore to be refused as lyes and done to deceiue Matth. I thinke so And for this cause doth the Lord warne vs by Moses if there arise in the middest of vs a Deut. 13. 1. 2. 3. Prophet that foresheweth things to come or sheweth anie other signes for this purpose to turne vs aside frō his worship that we do not heare such a Prophet for the Lord your God saith he proueth you to see whether you loue him with all your heart Theoph. But howe can the deuill haue the power to worke miracles which appertaineth onely to God Matth. The Lord looseth the bridle vnto him and giueth that power that he may auenge him selfe vpon those which despise and refuse his truth of whom Paule thus writeth Therefore will the Lord send them the 2. The. 2. 11 strength of delusion that they may beleeue lyes Theoph. Thou hast now satisfied me concerning the first part of this commaundement and those abuses haue bene discussed in it which are wont to be brought into the worship of God but chiefly the greatest amōg them namely Idolatrie It remaineth therfore that we The other part of the 2. commandement come to the other part to the end we may know what is to bee done in the outward seruice of God that is framed according to his owne will Matth. That is when a worship is giuen both agreeable to his nature and acceptable to his Maiestie Theop. What is that worship or adoration agreeable to the nature of God Math. Of spiritual worship It is taught of Christ himself Ioh. 4. 23. speaking to that woman of Samaria he saith The houre commeth and now is when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirite and truth for the Father requireth euen such to worship him Now he opposeth or setteth spirituall worship which God requireth against carnall worship deuised by men which because it is answerable to their carnal and corrupt nature maruellously pleaseth themselues but doth most of all displease God that is a spirite Yea indeed no worship but spirituall is acceptable vnto him Theoph. Now it is to be seene wherein that adoration or spirituall worship standeth Mat. Sincere prayer is the chiefe part of it whether it be publi●e or priuate when our hearts be lift vp vnto God with a pure cōscience all things being taken away that may withdraw or estrange our mindes from him as images candles and such other inuentions of men falling downe vpon our knees our heads vncouered and hands lifted vp to heauen Theoph. Are not kneeling vncouering of the head lifting the hands vp to heauen carnall ceremonies Matth. No in no wise For we call them carnall ceremonies that were deuised by men and such as tye our mindes to these earthly things but these are both ordained of God and do bring forth farre diuers or vnlike effects For they call our mindes from these earthly and fraile things and do lift them vp to true pietie and spirituall meditation Theoph Is there nothing else required to worship God spiritually besides the things which thou hast reckened vp Mat. There is somwhat else required namely that we do heare his word receaue the Sacraments with humblenesse and reuerence of mind