no God but me for there is no Saviour besides me Hos. 13.4 Deut. 6.4 I even I am the Lord and besides me there is no Saviour Isa. 43 11. and 44.6 8. and 45.15 And all Flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and Redeemer the Mighty One of Jacob chap. 49.26 and 60.16 Jer. 50.34 I will mention the Loving-kindness of the Lord c. for he said Surely they are my Children People that will not Lye So he was their Saviour Isa. 63.7 8. Thy People shall be all Righteous c. chap. 60.21 O the Hope of Israel the Saviour thereof in time of Trouble Jer. 14 8. He Saved them from the hand of him that hated them and redeem'd them from the hand of the Enemy by this he made his Power known Psa. 106.8 10 21. With the Lord there is plentious Redemption and he shall Redeem Israel from all his Iniquities Psa. 130.7 8. See also Psa. 19.14 and 20.6 and 28.8 and 34.22 and 49.8 Draw nigh unto my Soul and Redeem it Psa. 69.18 He shall Redeem their Souls from Deceit and Violence and precious shall their Souls be in his Sight Psa. 72.14 The Redemption of their souls is precious Psa. 49.8 And Mary said My soul doth Magnifie the Lord and my spirit hath rejoyced in God my Saviour Luk. 1.46 47. see also 1 Tim. 1.1 2.3 4.10 Tit. 1.3 2.10 God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son that whosever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting Life Joh. 3.16 Our Saviour Jesus Christ gave himself for us that he might Redeem us from all Iniquity and purifie unto himself a peculiar People Tit. 2.14 But after that the Kindness and Love of God our Saviour towards man appeared not by Works of Righteousness which we have done but according to his Mercy he Saved us by the washing of Regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost which he shed on us aboundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour Tit. 3.4 5 6. I and my Father are one Joh. 10.30 Jesus of Nazareth was a man approv'd of God by Miracles and Wonders and Signs which God did by him Acts 2.22 The Son can do nothing of himself but what he seeth the Father do Joh 5.19 30. We have seen and do testifie that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the World 1 Joh. 4.14 He is the Propitiation for our sins and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole World 1 Joh. 2.2 Lord thou wilt ordain Peace for us for thou also hast wrought all our Works in us Isa. 26.12 The Nature of Christianity in the true Light c. In Answer to Robert Gordon The first Part. The Title of R. G's Pamphlet CHristianity Vindicated or the Fundamental Truths of the Gospel Concerning the Person of Christ and Redemption through Faith in him maintained Answer These are covertly and deceitful Insinuations implying that we deny Christianity or deny Redemption through Faith in Christ both which are very false for it is Antichristian Sin pleasing-doctrines which oppose and slight the inward Work of Christ in his People that we oppose And what we have said on this account are neither Cavils nor groundless Exceptions as we are falsly accus'd R. G. to the Reader saith Having lately published a Book intituled A Testimony to the true Saviour Concurring with the Voices â—f all the Prophets and Apostles to the Man Christ Jesus c. Answ. Nay it was a heap of Confusion which could add nothing to the credit of the Prophets nor Apostles if they had been question'd but their Testimonies of the Man Christ Jesus we never doubted of nor oppos'd as wickedly and falsly he hath mis-represented us R. G. And unto Reconciliation Justification and Redemption as already in being in him purchased compleated and perfected with God for Sinners by the price of his whole entire and perfect Obedience in his crucified Body without us to be made effectual by the operations of his Spirit c. Answ. That perfect Reconciliation and Redemption c. were in being both in God and his Son for us while Enemies we assert but not receiv'd by us till we were made Friends and so reconci'd in our Minds by the Spirit or Word of Reconciliation operating within But R. G. to thy matter I query first How and of whom Reconciliation Justification c. are purchas'd for Sinners and so perfected whilst not made effectual by the workings of the Spirit within Or are men justified when no good is wrought in them by any Light or Spirit whatsoever as thy Doctrine was and is And thou shouldst have plainly spoke-out and told us what thou meanest by the words Purchased with God whether in the sence of Satisfaction and Payment to God in our stead as thy Tutors the Presbyterians and Independants hold yea or nay And whether the Love which is infinite was not the cause of his sending his Son into the World that the World through him might be sav'd and so the coming and manifestation of Christ in his Life Works Doctrines Sufferings tasting Death for every man c. Effects of the Love of God to Mankind yea or nay And tell us plainly where doth the Scripture say That Justification and Redemption are purchas'd of God and perfected without us by the crucified Body when no good is wrought within And if all these things are so purchas'd and perfected without for Sinners or the whole World what must be the Spirit 's operation within And how then can God condemn any for sin if thy Doctrine be true If thou sayst it is because of their Unbelief then this hath respect unto the Work of the Spirit and Faith within without which men cannot be sav'd nor justify'd wherein thou R. G. dost plainly contradict thy self whatever thou or carnal Professors imagine of your Justification c. being purchas'd and perfected without you you are not yet purchas'd nor redeem'd from Iniquity nor from a deceitful spirit wherein thou hast shew'd thy pretended love to be Enmity and Falshood against us and the Truth as will further appear R. G. That there are some pretending to be Teachers among them under the disguise of the names of Light and Power within thereby bring in damnable Errors to pervert the Faith among whom these four Men have numbred themselves by their voluntary opposition against the plain Truth left us upon record by the Prophets and Apostles and testified by me c. Answ. It s our Testimony of the Light and Power within that perplexeth thee and such dark and lifeless Professors as thou art who are in the spirit of Enmity And why dost thou Envy and Belye us call'd Quakers or those for whom Christ died as well for thy self If we had oppos'd the plain Truths of the Prophets and Apostles in Scripture as thou hast most falsly accus'd us it had been thy part and duty to have prov'd the Scriptures true if we had
and purchas'd all And of whom did God purchase Salvation according to thy strange manner of Expreâ—sion Whereas thou go'st so often over with these words Jesus Christ the Son of Mary whom thou call'st God-Man I ask thee If this be not of kin to the Papists calling Mary the Mother of God and where did the Apostles so often or ever use those Expressions Jesus Christ God-man the Son of the Virgin Mary And who were they that said Is not this the Carpenter the Son of Mary To whom Jesus said A Prophet is not without Honour but in his own Country c. Mark 6.3 4. Now what think'st thou Did they Honour him in those Expressions And which hast thou more Honour'd Him or Mary But Peter gave a higher Testimony of him when he said Thou art Christ the Son of the Living God To whom Jesus answer'd Blessed art thou Simon Barjona for Flesh and Blood hath not reveal'd it unto thee but my Father which is in Heaven Mat. 16.16 17. But do not the Papists honour him as much as thou in their frequâ—nt calling him the Son of Mary as thou hast done Who also hast grosly wrong'd my words where I said Nor was the Son of God nor his Light under such a Limitation either as to Time or Place aâ— a finite Creature but his Out-goings were of Old from Everlasting c. from which thou infer'st If that Holy Thing conceiv'd â—f the Holy Ghost and born of Mary was not therefore the Son of God Then the Man Jesus Christ of Nazareth who wâ—s the Soâ— of the Virgin Mary was not the Son of God thou say'st Whereby â—hou falsly add'st That I have given the Angel Gabriel the Lye and am in union with those Jews who reckon'd him but a meer Man the Carpenter 's Son c. John 10.33 To be sure thou art in union with a Lying spirit and art a gross Perverter for though I do not own that the Son of God and his Light is under such a Limitation the Holy One and his Light being unlimited I did neither thereby intend nor do my words bear any such Construction as that The Holy Thing conceiv'd by the Holy Ghost was not the Son of God Besides thou having confest that his Out-goings were from Everlasting hast thereby granted to what I said That the Son of God and his Light are not under a Limitation as to Time and Place especially if thou wilt own his Divinity or that he ever was the Son of God before he took a Body in the Womb of the Virgin but if thou dost not own that the Son of God was before then then thou dost not own his Divinity nor him no more then a finite Creature And herein the Heathen may judge thee as Nebuchadnezar when he said Lo I see four men loose walking in the mid'st of the Fire and they had no hurt and the form of the forth is like the Son of God Dan. 3.24 25. How came he to speak of the Son of God then And by what Scripture and how much hast thou exceeded those Jews that call'd Christ the Carpenters Son or those that call'd him the Carpenter the Son of Mary Mark 6.34 who therein did not truly honour him as a Prophet much less as the Son of God no more then thou hast in thy frequent calling him the Son of Mary the Son of Mary the Son of Mary c. as the POPE and PAPISTS do But when one said unto Christ Behold thy Mother and thy Brethren stand without c. He answer'd who is my Mother and who are my Brethren Behold whosoever shall do the Will of my Father which is in Heaven the same is my Brother my Sister and Mother Mat. 12.47 to the end Mark 3.33 34 35. Luke 8.21 and 11.29 30. And now to what thou say'st pag. 41. Of Sinners Vngodly Vnjust Enemies even while Enemies and no Good wrought in them by any light or spirit whatsoever that for these Christ made an end of Sin abolish'd Condemnation Curse and Death c. And this is thy Explanation Of God-Man having at once without us wrought compleated and purchas'd all with God as thou nonsensically word'st it For which I query If all this be done for the whole World when no Good is wrought in them by the Light or Spirit of God then why are any condemn'd Can it be just with God to condemn any or with-hâ—ld Salvation from any if it be so purchased paid for or he satisfied for and with men in their sins when no Good is wrought in them But what absurdity is it to say That Transgression is finish'd and Sin made an end of and Condemnation Curse and Death abolish'd where yet in thee and other such empty and dead Professors both Transgression and Sin actually remains and Death raigns for which you are liable to Condemnation the Wrath of God being reveal'd from Heaven against all Vngodliness and Vnrighteousness of men who hold Truth in Vnrighteousness and his Wrath abiding on him that believes not in the Son But if thou reckon'st that men's Transgression is finish'd and their Sin made an end of and that they are reckon'd Righteous when no Good is wrought in them then it must thus be taken That they are imputatively Righteous while actually Sinful and though Sin be in them God sees it not or takes no notice of it as to condemn them or reprove them for it which is still corrupt Antinomianism and contrary to reason or Truth Though heâ—eby I do not oppose but really confess Christ to have given himself for us an Offering and Sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling Savour Eph. 5.2 Yea and that God hath set him forth to be a Propitiation through Faith in his Blood to declare his Righteousness for the Remission of Sins that are past through the Forbearance of God Now though there be an Appeasment of Wrath and Remission held forth in this Propitiation for sins that are past yet this Righteousness of God declar'd thereby doth not admit of sin to be continu'd or of sins past present and to come as thy words are This Righteousness will not indulge thee nor otherâ— in Unrighteousness all your dayes neither is it the Nature of this Blood of his Sacrifice nor of Faith in it to cover or excuse thee in thy sins for Faith purifies the Heart and the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth from all sin where it is receiv'd in the Living Faith Neither will thy Profession of sin being ended without thee and Righteousness brought in in Christ's Person without thee be any Cloak for thee in thy sin and enmity nor yet will thy confus'd Talk of God-Man having Purchas'd all with God for thee stand thee in any stead in God's dreadful Day Although thou professest Victory and Perfection in Christ while in Sin and Imperfection in thy self as thou represents the Believer's state p. 43. which shews thy Ignorance both of Perfection Victory and being in Christ for
to them Now though plenteous Redemption Salvation and Peace were in being in Christ for us while Enemies and that God commended his Love towards us in that while we were Sinners Christ died for us vers 8. which doth explain the intent of the words If when we were Enemies we were reconcil'd to God by the death of his Son c. yet it is not the nature of Reconciliation for men to be Enemies to God I appeal to the Conscience of both R.G. and all other Professors Whether Enmity and Reconciliation do not differ And whether while Persons are at enmity they be then actually reconcil'd Though while we were Enemies we were reconcil'd by the death of his Son intentionally on God's Terms but not actually in our selves till the Enmity was slain in us as God with reference to his Purpose speaks to Abraham I have made thee a Father of many Nations before he was actually so made For Paul in the following words saith God who quickeneth the Dead calleth those things which be not as though they were Rom. 4.17 And also Zacharias being filled with the Holy Ghost he Prophesied saying Blessed be the Lord God of Israel for he hath visited and redeemed his People Luke 1.67 68. and to the end of the chapter Now though this Redeemed be spoken of as a thing done yet it was spoken of in the Prophesie of Christ the Horn of Salvation whose Salvation is Deliverance and Preservation out of the hands of our Enemies that we may serve him without fear in Holiness and Righteousness before him all the dayes of our life This was not witnessed when the Enemy rul'd and no good was wrought in us Further If Reconciliation and Redemption had been actually finish'd without us when no good was wrought in us what needed the Apostle so earnestly beseech and pray them in Christ's stead to be reconciled to God 2 Cor. 5.20 They might have said that is done and complated already Or to say Tbat Jesus Christ gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity and purifie unto himself a peculiar People c Tit. 2.14 They might have said we are redeem'd at once already without us while no good is wrought in us What needst thou to tell us of redeeming from all Iniquity or of being purified We do not expect any such thing while we live here and yet we are redeemed justified and perfect in Christ. This is according to R. G's Doctrine and Sense but the Apostle's Sense is contrary as where he saith You that were sometimes alienated and Enemies in your minds by wicked works yet now hath he reconciled in the Body of his Flâ—sh through Death to present you Holy and Vnblameable and Vnreprovable in his sight if ye continue in the Faith grounded and seâ—tled Col. 1.21 22 23. Mark here the nature and tendency of a reconcil'd stateâ— and how it differs from that of Enemies in the mind as you were sometimes Enemies yet now reconciled viz. Ye Saints and faithful Brethren in Christ which are at Coloss chap. 1.2 But the mind of him that is an Enemy in his mind is not reconcil'd to God or his Truth Drunkards Swearers and Ranters are not in a reconcil'd State nor justified State neither is God reconcil'd to them nor in Union with them Again The words Purchased and Redemption are us'd by R. G. in an Unscriptural Sense while he doth so nonsensically render it as God man having purchased all of God without and so justified man when no good is wrought in him by the Spirit of God and as if Christ's Works without were the previous purchasing cause of the Love of God and also states man's Justification and Redemption as only without and preceeding the work of the Spirit within whereas redeeming from all Iniquity and Bondage under which man was sold is not wrought without the opperation of the Spirit of God within but it is a Work to be fulfilled within where Sin and Bondage have ruled and being Washed Sanctified and Justified by the Spirit are plac'd in their proper order 1 Cor. 6.11 Sanctified being plac'd before Justified And the Apostle Paul saith You are seal'd with the Holy Spirit of Promise which is the earnest of our Inheritance note that until the Redemption of the purchased Possession unto the Praise of his Glory Eph. 1.13.14 So mark here The Holy Spirit of Promise was the Earnest of their Inheritance until the Redemption c. And grieve not the Holy Spirit whereby you are sâ—aled until the Day of Redemption Eph. 4.30 But with R. G. the Day of his Redemption was long since over many years before he was Born he was redeemed and justified above Sixteen Hundred Years ago but then he must suppose or conceit himself an Elect person before that or else the whole World is as much justified as he See how plainly these Scriptures refute R. G. as also God purchased his Church with his own Blood Acts 20.28 So his chosen People were a purchas'd Possession God was in Christ reconciling the World unto himself but the Saints who are hiâ— Friends are actually reconcil'd he hath fulfill'd it in them And now because those terms in Scripture relating to Christ and his Works are mis-understood and pâ—rverted by many Professors and Priests as this man hath done I shall state them with the natural and simple sense thereof as followeth viz. Jesus a Saviour who saveth from sin of whom it was said by the Angel Thou shalt call his Name Jesus for he shall save his People from their sins Mat. 1.21 Christ is Anointed for he was anointed with Power from on High Propitiation a Sacrifice well-pleasing which is to purge away sin and in Scripture sence to make nigh to God and which imports Forgiveness Reconciliation Favour Mercy Kindness c. as Propitious is favouable merciful c. Sacrifice an Oblation or Offering which is to Consecrate or make Holy Reconciliation an Agreement a Peace-making between them that have been Friends and afterwards Foes a setting at One. Covenant an Accord Agreement a Contract a Treaty a Condition c. Attonement Peace Quietness c. between them that are reconcil'd or in mutual Friendship Redemption a Ransoming Buying again Rescuing or Recovering such as were under Bondage or sold under Slavery Salvation a Saving Preserving or a making Safe from the hand of an Enemy Destroyer or Oppressor c. Imputation an Ascribing Attributing to laying to the Charge of or an Accounting Reckoning or Thinking Justification a making Righteous Just Upright Vertuous Good Perfect c. and also an Adjudging Pronouncing and Sentencing one that is made Righteous to be so Now if Professors come not to feel and experience these things or works of Christ fulfill'd within them they are but meer empty Professors and Talkers of them without the true Life and Power of Christianity and true Religion Certain Scriptures touching the Saviour Redeemer Redemption and Salvation c. Thou shalt know
which saves the soul and it is the soul as in the Power that is unchangable And God is not to be divided into parts and particulars he is not divisable nor separable It was the Priests words That the soul is a part of the Divine Essence 〈◊〉 in the said Book pag. 227. And one of them confessed That there was a kind of Infiniteness in the soul pag. 90. And in p. 68. it is said God breathed into man the Breath of Life and he became a Living Soul for that which came out from God is the Cause that man became a Living Soul And is not this of God c Now Infinite Divine c. is no otherwise intended to the soul then as relating to the Breath of Life which immediately came from God by which the soul lives and subsists in its Beeing which figuratively some have put for or called the Soul as being the Soul or Life of it by which it lives and is upholden whether under a sense of Anguish or Peace And this hath no accord with Rantism but is a Testimony against it and thee too And it had been well for thee to have cleared thy self of Rantism ere thou hadst charged it on others for indeed thy doctrine hath a direct tendency to it as That men are perfectly justified and reconciled in the sight of God Gâ—d with them and they with him while Whoring Killing Stealing Cursing Roaring Ranting yea that Raâ—ters if all while Enâ—mies wicked no good wrought in them c. are perfectly justified reconciled with God and Gâ—d with them Doth not this tend directly to strengthen the Ranters in their Rantism And as touching G. F's words the places have been look'd and it s found that thou hast disorder'd them and left out what was necessary â—o clear their sense and his Intent R. G. If their Consciences accuse them not neither have I who have not so much as mention'd them Answ. Our Consciences do not accuse us but thou hast covertly and deceitfully when thou didst not mention us by name and now hast openly revil'd us and wrong'd our Principles contrary to that love so much pretended by thee So now thou appearest in thy own shape and for all thy shuffling and shifting in this matter I appeal to thy own Conscience if thou didst not chiefly mean the Quakers in thy other Pamphlet more than Turks or Jews Arians Papists Socinians or Ranters Will these Pretences excuse thee And as to thy not finding a plain consistency in our Principles nor a unanimous reception of them by every Person among us no doubt but thou hadst us'd thy skill to make an inconsistency in our Principles but art disappointed and to stumble the weak by thy undeâ—ly Insinuations against us But I ask What persons among us are so far from the reception of our Principles as to receive thine or own thy spirit R. G. What an inconsistency is there between thy words and this work published by you four against my Testimony and that not by the youngest among you Answ. Thou knowest in thy own Conscience that it was G. K. that chiefly answer'd thy Book A. R. and G. L. were little concern'd in it and it was thy irreconcilable Contradictions that I chiefly took notice of What a silly ambitious Boaster art thou then to seek to make the World believe that four of us were so deeply engag'd against thee and thy self to be such an eminent Champion against us Thy Testimony is so much of it false and confus'd that many more then us four would have testified agâ—inst it and what we did it was not so much to wage War with thee as to answer the Truth in our selves and clear it in general However through thy Ambition thou shewest thy Vapouring spirit and Ostentation against four oâ— us the least of which yea the youngest Child of Truth may see thy weakness Whereas G. K. said Though Redemption is wrought within by the Spirit of Christ. To which thou sayst Here I take notice of thy slighting that great Work of man's Redemption as already purchas'd by Christ for Sinners by that one Sacrifice of his crucified Body Answ. We do not slight that one Sacrifice nor the Dignity thereof by confessing to Redemption as wrought within by the Spirit of Christ if thou wilt own Redemption in the true sense thereof as Christ gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity whiâ—h is not remov'd without his spiritual Operation within But thou contradictest thy Tutors thâ— Presbyterians and Independants in saying That man's Redemption is purchas'd by his Crucified Body for they say He did not satisfie as Man simply but as God and Man or as God Man which is all one as to say that God satisfied and paid God or that God purchased Redemption of himself for they say That his Suffering being finite could not purchase an infinite Reward for nothing but an infinite Price could procure that there must be an equivâ—lency between the Price and the thing purchas'd c. Whereas it was the Love and Good-will of God to send his Son into the World to redeem man from Sin and Corruption which is a work inwardly effected and Christ giving himself a Ransom for all was for a Testimony of Gods Love to all R. G. The Operations of the Spirit of Holiness being necessary for bringing the Believer into Vnion and Friendship with God c. p. 8. Answ. This confuteth much of thy work for then men are not in a reconcil'd state while out of that Friendship for where the mind is reconciled to God it is brought out of the enmity and evil works into union with God and so there is mutual union between him and the Creature R. G. He slew the Enmity in himself God reconcil'd us to himself through the Death of his Son while we were yet Enemies so no qualification wrought in us by any spirit whatsoever in order to the perfecting of the Purchase and paying the Ransom for Sinners pag. 8. Answ. Here is still thy old Story with thy additional Excuse of purchasing and payment to lessen the dignity and worth of the Spirit of God and its Qualification and Work within â—s as if God did not value the same Spirit of his and its work in his People now as formerly in Christ and his Followers whenas it is the same Spirit by which Jesus Christ offered up himself a Lamb without Spot to God and that rais'd him up from the dead which also quickeneth true Believers But thou preferest the Suffering of the Body before the Spirit and layest all the stress upon it as the only cause of Redemption Justification c. and the Works of the Spirit but as the Effect thereof How darkly hast thou herein consulted and set the Flesh above that Spirit which is the cause of Spiritual Effects for without the eternal Spirit his Body could not be offer'd nor rais'd nor the Saints quickened And concerning his Slaying the enmity
order to give them a day of Visitation wherein the tenders of Life and everlasting Salvation may be held forth unto them that believing and receiving the Son of God they may be sav'd from Sin and Death in themselves for he is the Saviour of all men but especially of them that believe whose Faith is not a meer Historical Faith of things only done without but a FAITH in the Name and Power of the Son of God a Heart-purifying Faith a justifying Faith a Faith that worketh by Love a Faith that is victorious over the World by which Faith we being justified we have Peace with God and by which Faith we have received Christ in Spirit and know him after the Spirit The Traditional Knowledge Faith and outward Profession of him as meerly after the Flesh will neither save nor justifie The Pope and Papists have as much of these as Robert Gordon who hath only his Tradition and Faith or Credulity for his Religion and Profession Although the concurring Testimonies of the holy Prophets and the four Evangelists and true Apostles and Ministers of Christ concerning his outward Birth Life Miracles Suffering in the Flesh Death Resurrection and Assention we never deny'd nor hereby in the least oppose by treating of the Nature and Effects of Faith in him as the Son of God the Foundation the Power and Wisdom of God the Light Life Salvation Righteousness Sanctification and Redemption of true Believers For he that believeth in and hath the Son hath Life but he that believeth not in him the Wrath of God abideth upon him How then is he or such perfectly justified with God Reconcil'd and Redeem'd at once without them aâ—â—ording to R. G. while the Wrath of God abides upon them and while no Good is wrought in them Is it good Doctrine to say That men are perfectly justified while under the Wrath of God And that thâ—y are perfectly Redeem'd and reconciled and so at Peace and imputatively Righteous while actually under the Wrath of God in themselves Were it not as good Doctrine to say That they are imputatively saved while actually Damned But this is something like the Doctrine of R. G. and his Teachers or Ministers the Presbyterians and Independants under whose Ministry he hath receiv'd what he hath testified which he deceivedly thinks came from the Lord. And whereas R. G. having deny'd that this Light which enlightens every man is Christ in which G. K. and I oppos'd him and to our saying So John Preacht him c. R.G. again answers in scorn Thou should rather have added So G. F. Preacht him and so others among the Quakers And further addeth John or any of the Pen Meâ— never so wrote of Christ neither canst thou show me one place of Scripture wherein it is inserted of Christ that the Light enlighteneth every man that comes into the World is the true Christ. Rep. What is this â—uâ— to deny the Divinity of Christ or to deny him to be that Word or Life which was the Light of men testified of John 1. which Word became Flesh and tabernacl'd in us Was not this still â—â—â—ist that John testified of that was the true Christ that enligâ—â—â—â—s every man that comes into the World Is it not Anti-christian Doctrine to deny this enlightening true Light to be Christ and to scoff at us for asserting it And because I distinguished between Christ the Enlightener and his Gift of Light or Illumination in man R. G. hath judg'd me severely as to be in Self-contradiction for my saying That we affirm a Spiritual Divine Light to be in eveâ—y man yet we do not say that Christ is in every man or that every man hath the Son though still I own the Son to be the Enlightner of every man This he counts a Contradiction but herein he hath but slightly overlookt and censured my words for there is no Contradiction in them any more then in saying Christ the true Light enlighteneth every man so that there is Christ and his Illumination yet every man is not a Child of Light walks not in the Light hath not the Son is not attain'd to the Revelation of Christ and yet hath a degree of his Light and Illumination in them wherein is his power and capacity of believing and receiving the Son of God or otherwise it is sufficient to leave them without Excuse yea the least Measure of Christ's Light is sufficient in each respect although this Opposer most ignorantly sâ—ights the Work of any Law or Light in man or Obedience wrought thereby as not able to deliver him from the Condemnation and Curse of the Law so as to obtain Justification with God theâ—eby pag. 25. Whereas the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ makes free from the Law of Sin and Death and this Law of the Spirit of Life is within this Law is Light this being obey'd thus freeth man from the power of Sin and Death where true Obedience to the Light is sin is not obey'd neither sin nor death doth raign in the Creature but Righteousness raigns within unto Life sin being forsaken the cause of Condemnation and the Curse is remov'd and where there is no Condemnation there is Justification even to them that walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit And is not this a state accepted of God seeing its the Doers of his Will that are just and justified But after this R G. hath oppos'd and scoffâ—d at that saying That this Light that enlightens every man that comes into the World is Christ having deny'd this he in plain Contradiction to himself is forc'd to acknowledge the Truth in these words I also acknowledge that it is said John 1.9 of Christ Jesus that was the true Light which 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 illuminat enlighteneth every man 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 venientem coming into the World for so it is in the Greek and that every man is enlightened by Jesus Christ as he is the Word that made the World c. pag. 27 28. See here R. G. against R. G. one while the true Light which enlighteneth every man is not the true Christ with him another while Jesus Christ was the true Light which enlighteneth every man that cometh into the World Do you think this is a trusty man to give credit to let the unprejudic'd Readers judge And further We do not call the enlightening in every man the Christ but the Light of Christ having already distinguished between the Enlightener and the Illumination and between the Giver and the Gift And now as concerning the Law and Nature by which the Gentiles did the things contain'd in the Law R. G. saith This Law or Enlightening thus planted in man'â— nature by generation is by Generation convey'd into every man as he cometh into the World and that it is called by Solomon the spirit of man which is the Candle of the Lord c. Pro. 20.27 Answ. This Law and Light that inwardly taught the Gentiles was
Mary as now imaginary he saith existing outwardly bodily without us Whereupon I ask him If he hath so considered him to be God the Saviour or the Son from the Substance of the Father as some of his Brethren have confessed the Son is And that he Existeth outwardly bodily without us at God's Right-hand What Scripture Proof hath he for these words And then What and where is God's Right-hand is it visible or invisible within us or without us only And is Christ the Saviour as an outward bodily Existenâ— or Person without us distinct from God and on that consideration to be worshipped as God yea or nay And where doth the Scripture say He is outwardly and bodily glorified at God's Right-hand Do these termes express the Glory that he had with the Father before the World began in which he is now glorified But did not Mary express a higher Praise and Worship then R. G's and the Multitudes Hosanna to the Son of David when she said My Soul doth Magnifie the Lord and my spirit doth Rejoyce in God my Saviour Luke 1.46 47. And whereas concerning the Law or Light in every man he instanceth Doth not even Nature it self teach either to prove this Law or Light natural as mans Nature insufficient or far below the Teachings of the new Covenant and yet in pag. 31. confesseth That it show'd them to wit the Gentiles that which may be known of God being manifested in them They are left without Excuse saith he and that of God which is manifest in them gave them an Eye to see his Invinsible Power and Godhead to know God and glorifie him as God page 32. A large Confession to his own Confusion And was that of God in them or that which might be known of God in them Natural as of man's Nature or but the form'd spirit of man or something proceeding from Natural Generation Oh gross Ignorance That ever a man should pretend to vindicate Christianity and shew so much Contradiction to himself and so much Ignorance of that Divine Light and Power which gives both to see the invisible things of God and to glorifie him as God surely this is not natural nor of corrupt nature that is sufficient to bring men into this good Estate or to leave them without excuse if they abide not in it retain not God in their Knowledge or glorifie him not as God see Rom. 1.19 20 21 28. How contrary to plain Scripture and Reason hath this man reason'd against the Light of God and Christ within as also ignorant of the Seed within and its being raised and of the Righteousness in the Elect Seed For he calls these New imagined Notions whereof there is no mention made in the Scriptures of Truth pag. 32. I believe they are New to him and such as he is in whom the seed of the Serpent is so highly risen and raigns as so openly to oppose this blessed seed of God where it is raised though they cannot prevail against it for though it be sown in Weakness it s rais'd in Power And yet in contradiction to himself in the same page confesseth That the ingrafted Word which is able to save the Soul which is called the Seed of the Kingdom which in the Children of Faith takes deep root downward and brings forth fruit upwards Neither of which it hath done in this and such like confus'd Gainsayers who can talk much of the outward Birth of Christ but know nothing of his spiritual Birth this is R. G's state but as much as in them lies bury the Seed having crucified unto themselves the Son of God untill by their persisting in their Gainsaying and wilful Opposition against the Light and Seed of God within there remains no more Sacrifice for them though there remains a Sacrifie for them that do not persist in wilful Disobedience nor crucifie to themselves the Son of God or Seed of â—ife and Righteousness in its Appearance within which Appearance being received and believ'd and so the Righteous Seed which abides in him that is born of God taking place and rule within this bringeth forth the Fruit of Righteousness unto Life and Justification and so removes and works out that which is the Cause of Wrath and Condemnation Let him that can receive it AND as to R. Gordon's Part against Gawen Lowry It appears an impertinent Flam and a piece of Cavil much like the rest of his stuff against us He seems to be offended That G. L. should communicate to others his private Letter and yet he himself hath published some Passages of G. L's Letter to him in Print with his own impertinent Cavils and Pervertions Now if he thinks G. L. did not well in communicating his Letter to be publish'd why did he publish G. L's with such cross and peevish Aggravations against him Hath he not herein done that by another which he would not have done by himself Where is his Pretended-love or Friendship or his Equal-dealing As for what could be sqeezed out of his Letter to his disadvantage tending as his words are forc'd to speak to no less then an owning another Mediator then Jesus of Nazareth as he saith But that we needed not do by his Letter it needed neither forcing nor sqeezing to make it worse then it was for we laid down his own very words in it and did write but little to it it appear'd so gross and Antichristian And now because he saith That he is not asham'd of what he hath written it is meet his doctrine should be here inserted again that the Reader may further take notice thereof Some Places of Scripture sent to Robert Gordon by Gawin Lawry John 1. from the first verse forward In the beginning was the Word Chap. 12. verse 46. I am come a Light into the World c. Chap. 15. ver 5. I am the Vine ye are the Branches Rom. 8.10 If Christ be in you c. 1 Cor. 1.24 Christ the Power of God and the Wisdom of God 2 Cor. 13.3 Seeing you seek Experience of Christ speaking in me Tit. 2 14. Who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity 1 Joh. 5.12 He that hath the Son hath Life Chap. 4. vers 4. Greater is he that is in you then he that is in the World Robert Gordon's Answer to these Scriptures I have considered the Scriptures thou mentionest and I find that in none of them it is testified who the true Christ our only Saviour is but what he is through the operations of his Spirit in Believers called therefore the Anointing within or Christ within but these Operations of his Spirit within are no where in Scripture called the Lord's Christ our only Saviour And if thou own no other Mediator Christ or Saviour then what is described in these Scriptures thou mentions then necessarily thou disowns the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth a Man approved of God c. Thus far R. G. telling us also of the Writings of