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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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a_o argument_n that_o as_o the_o sign_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n be_v one_o thing_n before_o consecration_n another_o after_o it_o so_o our_o lord_n body_n after_o its_o union_n to_o his_o divine_a person_n cease_v to_o be_v in_o substance_n what_o it_o appear_v and_o be_v change_v into_o the_o divine_a nature_n of_o the_o godhead_n theodoret_n repli_v upon_o he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o be_v take_v in_o your_o own_o net_n for_o the_o mystical_a sign_n after_o consecration_n recede_v not_o from_o their_o former_a nature_n but_o remain_v in_o their_o former_a substance_n form_n and_o appearance_n mark._n he_o say_v not_o only_o in_o their_o former_a form_n and_o appearance_n but_o in_o their_o substance_n also_o this_o be_v a_o irrefragable_a testimony_n against_o the_o novel_a doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n i_o will_v add_v the_o word_n of_o gelasius_n who_o be_v as_o some_o say_v bishop_n of_o rome_n but_o however_o one_o that_o live_v towards_o the_o 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virgin_n mary_n may_v be_v eve_n advocate_n hence_o most_o impertinent_o they_o infer_v that_o eve_n pray_v or_o may_v pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n whereas_o all_o that_o can_v be_v conclude_v from_o those_o word_n be_v that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v for_o eve._n i_o wonder_v how_o it_o be_v possible_a to_o conceive_v that_o eve_n shall_v pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n some_o thousand_o of_o year_n before_o she_o be_v bear_v the_o truth_n be_v those_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n do_v not_o at_o all_o relate_v to_o any_o religious_a advocation_n or_o invocation_n for_o in_o that_o place_n he_o only_o make_v a_o parallel_n or_o comparison_n betwixt_o eve_n and_o the_o virgin_n mary_n that_o as_o eve_n a_o virgin_n bring_v sin_n and_o death_n into_o the_o world_n so_o mary_n a_o virgin_n bring_v forth_o a_o saviour_n and_o redeemer_n ut_fw-la maria_fw-la sit_fw-la evae_n advocata_fw-la that_o mary_n may_v be_v a_o advocate_n or_o pleader_n to_o excuse_v the_o sin_n of_o eve_n and_o defend_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o sex._n take_v tertullia_n verse_n as_o a_o comment_n on_o irenaeus_n who_o speak_v full_o and_o clear_o what_o he_o mean_v virgo_fw-la viro_fw-la nocuit_fw-la sed_fw-la vir_fw-la de_fw-la virgine_fw-la vicit_fw-la 10._o lib._n 1._o advers._fw-la marcionem_fw-la v._o origen_n in_o dialog_n p._n 256._o &_o tertul._n de_fw-fr habitu_fw-la mulier_fw-la c._n 10._o virgin_n ut_fw-la virgo_fw-la caro_fw-la carnis_fw-la debita_fw-la solvat_fw-la that_o as_o by_o a_o virgin_n come_v death_n so_o also_o by_o a_o virgin_n come_v deliverance_n from_o death_n the_o virgin_n mary_n in_o and_o by_o her_o son_n make_v full_a reparation_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o eve_n transgression_n what_o do_v this_o concern_v religious_a invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o satisfy_v myself_o much_o less_o other_o in_o bare_a assert_v let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o cause_n and_o produce_v our_o witness_n justin_n martyr_n fine_a ecclesia_fw-la nec_fw-la invocationibus_fw-la angelicis_fw-la facit_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sed_fw-la purè_fw-la orationes_fw-la dirigens_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la iren._n lib._n 20._o c._n 57_o in_o fine_a apol._n 2._o give_v a_o account_n to_o the_o emperor_n antoninus_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n say_v we_o offer_v up_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n to_o god_n we_o think_v he_o alone_o worthy_a of_o this_o honour_n by_o who_o all_o thing_n be_v create_v and_o a_o little_a after_o we_o worship_v god_n alone_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n be_v accuse_v by_o the_o heathen_n 21._o euseb_n hist_o eccl._n lib._n 4._o c._n 15._o v._o lactant._n instit_fw-la lib._n 5._o cap._n 11._o de_fw-la vera_fw-la relig_n c._n 55._o cont._n faustum_n lib._n 22._o c._n 21._o as_o if_o they_o intend_v to_o worship_v their_o martyr_a bishop_n saint_n polycarp_n answer_v in_o vindication_n of_o themselves_o we_o worship_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n but_o martyr_n we_o worthy_o love_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o his_o disciple_n and_o faithful_a servant_n who_o memory_n on_o their_o natalitia_fw-la or_o obit_n day_n we_o celebrate_v which_o exact_o agree_v with_o st._n austins_n dogmatical_a resolution_n of_o this_o question_n we_o honour_v angel_n charitate_fw-la non_fw-la servitute_fw-la with_o love_n not_o service_n and_o in_o another_o place_n with_o the_o worship_n or_o honour_n of_o love_n and_o fellowship_n as_o holy_a man_n be_v worship_v in_o this_o life_n origen_n against_o celsus_n edit_fw-la lib._n 8_o p._n 386._o edit_fw-la cant._n and_o the_o same_o he_o say_v lib_n 5._o c._n 60._o vet_z edit_fw-la the_o good_a angel_n in_o some_o sense_n we_o reverence_v honour_n or_o worship_n as_o god_n minister_n but_o we_o worship_v one_o god_n and_o his_o only_a son_n with_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n offer_v they_o to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a beget_v beg_v that_o he_o as_o our_o high_a priest_n will_v present_v they_o to_o god._n he_o say_v not_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n upon_o our_o prayer_n to_o they_o or_o angel_n but_o christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n our_o high_a priest_n who_o peculiar_a office_n it_o be_v as_o such_o to_o present_v our_o prayer_n and_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n unto_o god._n and_o a_o little_a after_o god_n alone_o be_v to_o be_v pray_v unto_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v also_o to_o his_o only_a son._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o whereas_o celsus_n allege_v as_o now_o papist_n do_v the_o power_n of_o courtier_n to_o injure_v or_o help_v those_o who_o respect_n or_o disrespect_n they_o 1._o v._o ambros_n p._n 300._o in_o rom._n cap._n 1._o origen_n advise_v he_o to_o commit_v and_o commend_v himself_o to_o god_n only_o the_o supreme_a ruler_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o to_o beg_v of_o he_o all_o that_o help_n and_o protection_n which_o come_v from_o angel_n and_o just_a man_n for_o say_v he_o as_o the_o shadow_n follow_v the_o motion_n of_o the_o body_n so_o he_o that_o please_v god_n have_v the_o friend_n of_o god_n 140._o v._o origen_n in_o romanos_fw-la 2._o p._n 140._o angel_n and_o bless_a soul_n favourable_a to_o he_o who_o will_v render_v god_n more_o favourable_a and_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o he_o although_o unrequested_a but_o of_o our_o pray_v therefore_o to_o they_o not_o a_o word_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o his_o book_n against_o celsus_n yea_o in_o these_o word_n the_o ground_n of_o all_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n be_v whole_o take_v away_o not_o to_o weary_v the_o reader_n lib._n 5._o in_o cell_n p._n 233._o he_o say_v all_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v up_o to_o god_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a or_o reasonable_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o call_v upon_o angel_n if_o not_o on_o angel_n much_o less_o on_o saint_n the_o same_o we_o find_v lib._n 8._o in_o cell_n p._n 402._o clemens_n alexandrinus_n account_v it_o gross_a folly_n to_o beg_v of_o those_o who_o be_v no_o god_n as_o if_o 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