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A08569 A learned and very eloquent treatie [sic], writen in Latin by the famouse man Heironymus Osorius Bishop of Sylua in Portugal, wherein he confuteth a certayne aunswere made by M. Walter Haddon against the Epistle of the said bishoppe vnto the Queenes Maiestie. Translated into English by Iohn Fen student of Diuinitie in the Vniuersitie of Louen; In Gualtherum Haddonum de vera religione libri tres. English Osório, Jerónimo, 1506-1580.; Fenn, John, 1535-1614. 1568 (1568) STC 18889; ESTC S100859 183,975 578

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deuised and wronght by the labour studie and diligence of Satan What rage hath so driuen you what madnes hath so stirred you that you durst set vpon so wicked an enterprise For you haue made open warres against honestie and chastitie you haue furiously brokē into the holy Monasteries you haue ouerthrowen bashfulnes honestie and continencie you haue chased awaie that most excellent loue of perpetual virginitie you haue geuen the goods of religions personnes to whome you listed and now when you triumph at the fall of chastitie and Religion you so vaun● your selues in it as though you had by this noble victorie gotten euerlasting fame and honour Now foloweth the disputation of the pulling downe of Images whiche you like verie well and are offended with me bicause I should saie that when the images are takē awaie there is nothing left wherby the mind might be stirred vppe to thinke vpon godlie thinges The which I neuer spake For there are manie other thinges whiche you haue ouerthrowen together with the ymages that moue our mindes more vehemently then they doe But this much I saied For so much as Images are verie good and effectuall to bring al men especially ▪ the vnlearned to the remembraunce of the wonderful vertue which shone sometimes in the holy Saintes and it were expediēt that the benefit of Christ should be represented vnto vs by al signes in al places it was wickedly done of them that pulled downe Crosses and Images For we doe neither praie nor offer nor sacrifice vnto them but we are by them put in remembraunce of those thinges that are of dew to be worshipped It is saie you against the expresse commaund●ment of God I would your doctours would instructe you better in Diuinitie that you might no more babble out such childi●h toyes Tell me I praie you haue you neuer read that there were in the tabernacle of God Images of Cherubines set before the Arke of promise The vele whiche diuided the inner part from the reste of the tabernacle was is not wrought betwene with manie Images of Cherubines Was there not made the Image of a Serpent in brasse by the commaundement of God in the wildernes vpon the whiche suche as were bitten of serpentes looked and were healed What Images then hath God forbidden to be made Those Images without dowbte by the whiche men blinded with synne went abowte to expresse a thinge that can neither be deuised nor painted nor engrauen nor expressed wyth woordes nor conceiued with the heare that is the infinite Maiestie of God Besides this there was greate daunger lest the people being now acqueinted with the manners of the Aegiptians being also abowt to goe into a land which was infected with the selfe same errours might through familiaritie and neighbourhood of these vngodlie nations fall into the like errour and offer vp sacrifice vnto goddes made of stockes and stones or at the least make the ymages of some naughty and vile men and set them vp in the place of God The feare of this daunger caused manie thinges to be taken quite awaie which had ben otherwise lawfull and tolerated The ymage of the brasen serpent was diligently kept as a goodlie monument of the benefite of God and singular sacrament of the saluation to come But after manie yeares when the people were come to such madnes that they thought there had benne some diuinitie in the ymage and therfore offered sacrifice vnto it it was by the holie King Ezechias broken and made into powder Shew you now that we doe goe about to expresse the nature of God by signes or that we thinke that ther is anie godhead in dome images and then may you wel conuince vs of blindnesse and folie So long as you doe not this there is no cause whie you should feare the dotage of idolatrie as you terme it or laie blindnesse to our charge with such● monstruous wordes For we doe that that is by right and reason ordeined by the holie Churche approoued by sentence of holy Fathers determined The gospell say you commaundeth vs to absteine from Images That is true But what must we vnderstand to be ordeined by this commaundement For sooth this that no man should offer vp sacrifice to Images or for anie pretense of religion make as though he did follow the errour that was in other men For the faithful men were not then commaunded to ouerthrow and breake their Images but to forsake the detestable Sacrifices Moreouer what Images were those Of Iuppiter Apollo Minerua Mars and Mercurie and other the like Goddes which were thought of old time to be verie true goddes in deede But we doe neither offer vp sacrifice vnto idols neither doe we thinke the Images of vncleane and vicious men to be worthie of any reuerence in the world You say afterward But this feare being taken awaie yet must the doctrine of Christ haue ful authoritie ●mongest Christian men in the which it is plainlie said that God is a spirite and that the true order of praying to God is to worship him in spirite and ●rewth Of like we know not that M. Haddon and therefore doe we make God like a man both in bodie and māners Would God you had learned what it is to worship God in spirite and then had you neuer fallē into such vngodly opinions You say that the true ordre of praying nedeth not these helpes of outward thinges Although you and such as you are hauing nowe waded so farre in the exercise of spiritual life neede not these outwarde helpes but may without them presse euen to the throne of God yet should you remembre that there are manie that are not yet come to so high a degree of heauenlie perfection as you be and therfore haue neede to be holpen by all meanes possible Not so saie you but raither while our owtwarde man is to muche occupied in these shadowes of holie thinges the feruencie of the minde waxeth colde within Not so M. Haddon but rather while the minde waxeth colde within it is by these outwarde representations of holie thinges to be stirred vp to remembre those thinges that were forgotten for as Dionysius teacheth vs so long as we are inclosed within the frame of this bodie and can not altogether withdrawe our minde from the acqueintance of the bodie we are to be stirred vp nowe and then by bodilie Images to the remembrance of the inuisible God This not withstanding you goe fore warde and saie Let vs put examples The old Church of the Apostles and Martyrs had none of all these monumentes and yet was their spirite moste earnestly inflamed with the loue of God In the wane of ●ure Religion pictures crope in by litle and litle and so appalled in the heartes of men that former boyling heat of Religion Not so sir but then were Images and pictures necessarie to stirre vp againe by almeanes the feruencie of religion which was as you say appalled For so long as
the Image of the Crosse was printed and engrauē in the hearts of all men this multitude of Images was not so necessari● But you doe much like as if a man should say that the remedies of diseases were the causes of diseases for the picture did not cause men to forgette holie thinges but rather it was wisely deuised that men might not forgette them If the vse of Images quenched as you saie that feruēcie of spirit with the which men were inflamed in the olde tyme then must it needes folow that when Images were first ouerthrowē of you you were by and by verie hote in spirite Tel me therefore if it please you When you first brake downe the Images tables and other monumentes of Saintes when you defaced them māgled them and dasshed them in a thousand peeces when you burned the relikes of the most holie Martyr S. Thomas was there foorth with enkendled in you so great a heat as you speake of were you by and by wholly inflamed with fier from heauen I beleeue there fell from aboue not onely fierie tongues but also fierie heartes and bowelles the heate and flames whereof wrought with you so extremely that you are not able by any meanes to abide this straūge force of loue which burneth within you Neither do you now liue vpon the earth but in hearte and mind you are in heauen For euen as vpon the ouerthrow of the authoritie of the bishop of Rome ther arose out of hand a new sonne emōgest you so must it nedes folow that vpon the pulling downe of Images vppon the breaking of the monumentes of Christ crucified vpon the digging vp of the graue of the holy Martyr and burning of his bones you cōceiued foorth with such a fier of heauenly loue in your bowelles that there is nothing in the world to be seene in your heartes but only that same hoat and sierie loue of God If it be so I commend the vehemencie of your spirite I allowe your doing I thinke this worthie acte of yours deserueth immortall fame and honour for what so euer quencheth the feruencie of the spirite what so euer doth any thing breake or weaken the force of loue it would be put back with the whole bent of the hart Neither ought we to beare anie thing in the world that might cause a dulnes or slakenes in the minde But if it be nothing so if after the breaking downe and defacing of the goodlie monumentes of vertue you were not inflamed by and by with fier from heauen then it is most euident that the Images and reliques of holie men buried vnder the grownde did nothing hinder you from that feruent loue of God Whie then what the diuell madnes came into your heads that you should be so earnestly bent to make a waste and spoile of thinges whereof you could take no commoditie in the worlde At the length you speake verie earnestly as you doe often against the diuinitie of the schoole doctours wherin I can not much blame you for you haue good cause to be offended with them whose whole drifte both of mindes and disputation is altogether against you For they haue receiued a pure and true Doctrine from holie men you haue taken a pudlie and stinking doctrine of most wicked persons They are bound to the verie auncient Religion that was deliuered from the Apostles you falling from the auncient religion are wickedly flitted to this new fangled secte They for the most part of them doe worship Christ with honest conuersation and vpright cōscience but you haue done and spoken manie thinges verie impudentlie and rashly to the reproche and dishonour of Christ Nowe whereas you impute the cause of Images to them you shew your selfe to be not only very shamelesse but also very witlesse ●or you doe not accompt emongest the schoole Doctours Cyrillus or Athanasius or Ierome or Ambrose or Augustine Whome then Dowbtlesse such as folowed Petrus Lombardus and beganne manie yeares after his tyme to expound openly in schooles his Sentences as they cal them gathered out of the bookes of the holie Fathers and brought into one volume Petrus Lōbardus flourished about the yeare of our Lord. 1141. And the second Councel of Nice was kept in the yeare 781. Neither was it firste decreed in that coūcel that Images shuld be set vp but that they should not be pulled down And the herefie of such as would haue them to be ouerthrowen was there condemned by the ful agreement of al the fathers Of the which errour as it appeared by the testimonials brought into the Councel the firste brochers were certaine Manichees and Marcionistes It was there declared at that time by the authoritie of Basile Gregorie of Nissa Cyril Ierom Augustin and by the custome receiued in the Church euen from the Apostles time that the Images of Christ of his most blessed Mother and of other holie men had ben set vp vpon a great good consideration to call the mindes of men continually to remēbre the goodnes of God In the selfe same Councel also was read an oratiō of Athanasius of a miracle whiche was wrought at Berith a citie of Syria when certaine Iewes pearced the Image of Christe with a speare For out of the wound flowed out bloud whervpō the Iewes were turned vnto Christe And although in the Apostles time suche signes were nothing necessarie and as then it was not lawful through the tyrannie of Princes to builde Churches and to bewtifie them with comely ornaments yet doe the auncient monumentes declare that euen at that time there was some vse of Images As for the Images of the Crosse there is no doubt for so much as the most aunciēt monumentes both of Aethiopia and India make mention of them In that part of India which is within the riuers Indus and Ganges towardes the east there is a towne called Mailapur and belongeth to the great kingdō of Narsingua where the bodie of S. Thomas was buried Ther not many yeares ago was digged out by the prouidēce of God a great Crosse made of stone whose top and both sides an arke hewen out of the same stone couered wherein were engrauen letters of verie great antiquitie whiche no man could reade but such as were lerned in the aunciēt letters of the Bracmans The meaning of the letters as it was afterwardes founde was a storie of the death of S. Thomas whiche declared howe a holie man named Thomas in the time of King Sangam ruler of those landes was sent of the sonne of God to visite those countreis and to bring the people vnto the knowledge of God and how the ennemies of religion crucified him vpon the same Crosse ▪ And the Crosse euen at this daie is smeared with spottes of bloud Eusebius also writeth that in a citie called Philips Cesarea there was a brasen Image of Christ set vpō a foote of a good heith and before it an other Image of a woman ▪ the whiche being sometime sicke of a bloudie