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A89854 Something further in answer to John Jacksons book called Strength in weaknesse. Naylor, James, 1617?-1660. 1655 (1655) Wing N318; Thomason E854_5; ESTC R207473 8,654 12

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to the weake their wisdom was not to speake all they knew though the Serpent speaks all he imagines more then he knowes 1 Cor. 3.2 2 Cor. 12.4 And still would be climbing to know but its death for him to obey what he knows and in this nature art thou seene to be who art glorying in words without life and practice and hath gathered with wisdom many words from others which are not thine owne nor fulfilled in thee these thou hast put forth that thou may seeme to be some body and so art glorying in appearance in that which is not wrought in thee for this I say had the Saints of God whose words thou hast got taken up no other Cross then thou dost nor lived no other life nor been acted by another Spirit in other waies then thy practice thou hadst had no Scripture to have taken those words out of and so now thou hast got them the Saints words do but little suite thy practice They were holy men of God and their worke was to waite upon God in life and not in words alone but thou art a man of the world and a servant thereto in its waies words and pleasures according thereto art thou fashioned which they was not Thou cannot owne their life nor will their words cover thee by talking them over thou cannot behold them but thou may see thy condemnation and the life will find thee out It s the Saints life that judges and tryes the Spirits and waies that are in the world It s that you cannot pervert nor wrest hypocrits worldlings and carnall mindes who live in pride oppression and deceipt gets their words once a weeke to talke on And with your disobedient wisdome you twine them to your own lusts and in your wills which are not obedient to the Cross of Christ you handle the letter which the life gave forth but the life you deny and the light you hate and oppose both in your selves and others and yet you would be called Christians when Christ you have not in his life power will nor obedience only you have him in your mouthes to talke on but the God of this world having possession of your hearts hath so blinded the eye and alienated you from the life of God that you can neither heare nor see nor know him where he is come but like the blind Jewes are thinking of his coming in observations without you but cannot receive his light and appearance within nor owne his life where it is brought forth in others without so its plaine you are seeking another Christ or in another manner then ever he appeared in flesh and another glory then he was ever cloathed with in this world in his dispised ones so his words are your condemnation who cannot own his waies but if thou wilt have an interest in the Saints words and not therwith to be condemned come to the Saints life and read the Scriptures there a little of them there will serve thy turne in that nature thou lives in if thou there come and make proofe of thy selfe in that thou canst not wrest thou likes to be covered with their words but lay by thy stateliness and come to be covered with their glory which Christ and all his used to be clad withall in this world that which the world strives not for read Christ in his wants and wanderings hunger and nakedness mocking buffeting stocking stoning prisonings Luk 2.3.4 1 Cor. 4.10.11.12.13 in his temptings fasting whippings banishings out of townes and Cities and Countries as a signe to be spoken against every where a stumbling stone and rock of offence to all sorts of professions especially to the wisest as the off scouring scum and filth of the world and a gazing-stock where ever he comes in flesh so he is to this day who suffer the opposition of all the wicked this is his glory and this is his joy in this world wherein we rejoyce to be counted worthy to suffer with him and if thou wilt read him in these lines in life without thy suttle meanings then shalt thou know a joy the world meddels not with nor will thy worldly Spirit delight to be cloathed with this glory though thou canst glory much in their words who were thus glorified but were you to medle no more with their words then you live in their practice so cease boasting of other mens lines made ready without you we should have many eloquent teachers now as dumbe as those was as Isaiah speaks of in his time to whom he preached the Covenant of light which they opposed Woe unto you a sad day is coming upon you all who have covered and not with the Spirit your literall coverings must be ript off and your nakedness must appeare that is the cause why you so oppose the light and Spirit within who have covered the outside but cannot abide the search within he is come who made the heart and the warre is begun against the Dragon so the devourer stands up one every side and let that of God in thy conscience judge betwixt God and thee on what part thou wilt be found and how thou loves his glory and what of the world thou denies for it and if thou own him with the loss of all things I say let that of God judge thee in secret and thy practice openly how thou ownes a Saints life and glory and way out of the world untill Christ appeare whose light thou opposest to reward thereafter thy works who art not in the worke of Christ nor the way of his ministers their sufferings and callings nay if thou minde that in thy conscience which doth not change thou may see thy selfe in the world before their call out and forsaken by them when they came to be disciples and if ever thou own their call thou must own their Cross though now the blind eye be up and would enter another way then Christ and his disciples hath gon and so all you that denie the light and life death in you gets the fame from without and therewith opposes your selves O you dead deafe and blind who are now banded together against the light of Christ and his appearance how hath the God of this world besotted you and filled your hearts with gross darkness above all you read of did ever generation practise contrary to what they professed like you you have gotten more words but less pōer then ever any of your Fathers the persecuters opposers ever had doth not your great profession little practice give an ill savour even amongst the heathen so that the name of Christians is become odious and they are become your Judges in the life of Christianity doe not they who have not the letter without who bring forth the effects of that law which God hath written in their hearts become the Children of obedience before you who have long said I goe sir hath not the greatest deceipt pride covetousness and oppression self-love that
ever was in the world since Cains time now got a cover of prefession and Church-name a mongst you how are you got above all reproofe herein for pride and stateliness soe that the very language and gestures of the Saints is abomination to you and the sufferings of such as follow them is not so much valued as you would do your dogs how have you made these the times of advantage to exalt your selves which God hath appointed to pull downe what was exalted how have you eaten up the sins of them that went before you and have added their curse to your own so that double blindness and hardness is come upon you And now you are more voide of feeling and feare then you was before ever you professed any thing of God The Lord and his light be Judge amongst you who now can swallow downe and live in that which once you could not have done for all the world so let the Lord be witness and no deceiptfull lips if I speake not the truth as to many of you how hath the enemie lead out your minds from the Spirit that while you are preaching the Saints words you are not able to look within at your own contrary practice and stop the mouth of the gainsayer that so the true witness of God might arise in you and let you see the cast away surely you are they that are to be bemoaned above all other who have had a measure of tenderness but now wholly lost and not only so but now oppose it in others who retaine it nor would seeke after it and now this being all that this shaking and reformation hath brought forth in you the righteous God hath cast you off and chosen things that are not and things weake and foolish and contemptible to confound the wise and mighty and learned And the Children of the Kingdom is casting out and from farre they come to inherit therefore the heads of the Serpent and the beast and the prophet that tels lies meete together to strengthen one another and this is seene amongst you of severall heads and hornes and collers so to you all I write and not to thee alone who art but one joyned in amongst many that if there be any amongst you that will own the despised light and search your hearts therewith and try your waies and returne to the Lord that you may be healed and with the light in thy conscience thou maist take thine own and so the rest of you for his witness is faithfull and swift against you and according thereto he will proceed except ye repent JAMES NAYLER A Few Words in answer to a printed paper subscribed F. B. who hath printed a peece of the Bible over again and added a few of his own words to it for to pervert it shewing himself to be one of those spoken of 2 Pet. 3.16 Unlearned unstable who wrests these and all other Scriptures out of their place and so to his own destruction FRiend thou hast gathered up many Scriptures which thou say'st dost witness against thy judgement and practice of the Quakers with a charge as thou callest against them but hast not proved one particular true but if thine eye had been single thou mightest have found thy selfe lying guilty under the condemnation there of in thy practice so take them back again and consider of them and let that of God in thy Conscience be judge for so it shall at that day when he shall clear the innocent The Scriptures we own and that Light and Spirit that gave them forth whereby we know thou art not he that spoke those words to Job but one that useth thy tongue boasting in other mens lines made ready without thee to oppose that life wherein they lived in his despised ones of this Generaion whom not one of these Scriptures doth reprove neither canst thou make it appear in any one particular Thou sayst thus saith the Lord who hath washed away our sins in his own blood I say see it be so least thou be found in sin and so proved a false witness for such are they who set up false Christs who profess a Christ without power and cry loe here loe there in outward forms without but who hath the true Christ goeth nor forth So consider the beam in thine own eye and the nakedness thou tells of appeareth in thy paper he that hath an eye doth see it For the lusts of the flesh thou tells on search and see if thou be not he that is found in the much wantonness thou speakest of which we deny a Servant to corrupt things and would have others so also if thou say we preach another Gospel thou should have shewed wherein but it is a small thing that we should be judged of man thou sayst judge nothing before the time until the Lord come who will bring to light the hidden works of darkness and will make manifest the Counsels of thy heart So it seems thou confessest a time of judgement where the Lord is come which time we witness and by the brightness of his comming the Man of sin revealed and the Councels of thy heart made manifest who to thy Mâster art fallen and for him thoustandeth Thou sayst doubtless thou countest all things but losse and dung that thou may win Christ I fay take heed it be so least when search is made thou be found a lyar thou sayest let nothing be done in vain glory but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better then themselves I say remember this and let it stop thy mouth when thou shalt plead for respect of persons which the redeemed ones John speaks of are redeemed from even out of Kingdoms Tongues People and Nations and all their vain Customs and Worships to worship God only thou sayst thou shalt rise up before the hoary head and honour the face of the old man and fear thy God I say see thou doth so but how is this fulfilled among you who will binde gray hairs to bow down and worship you where pride is got up in young ones thus God never commanded nor the Scriptures as thou might have found hadst thou had an eye to these Scriptures following James 2.10 Joh 32.21 22. Hest. 3. Prov. 28.21 Acts 10.18 Rom. 2.11 Ephes 6.9 Jude 16. with divers others which maketh little for prides purpose yet will they stand a witness against it for ever Now to thy slanders which thou hast added upon those thou callest deceived ones thou sayst by our Doctrines and practice we make little of Christ which is at the right hand of God in the Heavens That we make lesse of his word the rule of righteousness and judgement both of Doctrines Men and Spirits That we make nothing of his Ordinances in which his Saints are to wait until his second comming That we revile his Ministers that we condemn his justified ones who would deceive them of all that faith hope peace and joy in the holy Ghost wherein the Church of the first born hath ever lived To all which I say thou hast proved thy self the man thou speakest on who hast given thy mouth to evil and thy tongue frameth deceit and slanders and this must rest upon thee till thou prove us guilty of these things thou hast falsely accused us seeing thou layest the charge against all those thou callest Quakers And for the Army of Martyrs and their life thou tellest of If thou minde that in thy Conscience by which the Ministers was guided thou wilt finde it a witness against thee who hast armed thy self with their words against their life which is now made manifest in his despised ones which thou amongst the rest hast lifted up thy Horn against and thus thou shalt see when the book is opened and that eye which the God of this world hath blinded then shalt thou see though that in thy Book is of little force against us yet it riseth from the same root of envy from whence hath sprung greater things and that which hath stirred thee up to this is but making the way for thee to follow them that imprisoned and shed the blood of the Martyrs so take heed least thou proceed to faor and be given up to have an hand in the same practise for envy is as blind now as it was then and there is nothing stops it but the measure of God and his light which if thou forget and act against it when thou art found in the same work that hath been before mentioned thou mayst remember thou hast been warned For thy confused exhortation which riseth from the blind eye it is judged with the light of Christ who sees thy confusion Thou sayst repent and become sinners that we may be righteous in Gods righteousness repent and become meek in spirit and pure in heart and so shall we see God so thou mayst compare thy exhortation and see how it will hold in the ballance of truth but such repentance suits well with the love of the world where you may live in your sins and talk of Gods righteousness but where the heart is purified and God seen your repentance is judged and your vain talk of righteousness without life and you are known to be of those which shall not be able to stand in the sight of God So take thy exhortation back again and repent of thy false accnsations and speaking evil of that thou knowes not and publishing a generall charge that thou canst not prove and make a search through thy paper and what thou hast written more then the words of the Scripture is but to add slanders and false accusations and for the Scriptures thou hast printed it is but that thon mightest turn them out of their place to set them against that spirit that gave them forth and they little suit for thy purpose So when thy blind zeal is alittle abated thou mayst see thy work and be ashamed and learn when thou writest again to charge no more then thou canst prove least whilst thou goest onto cast thy dirt upon others whose lives thou canst not judge thou receive thy own inside and cover thy self with thy own shame thou mayst receive this if thou canst from a lover of thy soul who contendeth not for mastery but to clear the truth called JAMES NAILER THE END