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A69592 An apologie concerning perfection being a fundamentall answer and reply upon Esaiah Stiefel his exposition of four texts of the Holy Scripture written in the year 1622 ... / by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Vom Irrthum der Secten Esaiae Stiefels und Ezechiel Meths. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3415; ESTC R14771 119,599 158

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marryed people might learn to distinguish the holy in the Love from the beastiall and learn in this work to remain Modest Chast and Temperate before God and Man 11. And not as a burning Lustfull Bull to which brutish work this Authour openeth a wide Door while he calleth it totally holy and so at last in his holy giving forth All shame would be extinguished 12. Whereas yet the understanding and also Nature testifieth that an Abomination hangeth to it which is not quite holy before God in respect that also Nature it self together with the Soul is ashamed of it which ought well to be considered and how the poor Soul which appeareth by the Eyes is ashamed before its Bridegroome CHRIST that it now after the Fall must propagate it self after such a Beastiall Manner like other Beasts 13. For this cause I will unfold it that marryed people may learn to know themselves and that this Authour might not make them So totally blind and they live in abomination before God as Beasts without any knowledg thereof unlesse for this I would not particularly oppose him in this Article for holy people should get also holy children which yet miserably often faileth as is apparent to our Eyes 14. We know what Moses saith That God said Let us make Man an Image that is like us He saith not TWO Images but ONE Image that is like us 15. God is according to the Fire and Light but ONE substance viz according to the Fires and Lights Tincture in the Eternall Nature he is also but ONE substance And that he is and is called Father and Sonne yet he is therein also but ONE substance 16. But manifested in TWO Principles viz with the stern Fire-world according to the Fathers Property and according to the Light and Love-world in the Sonnes Property And yet is but ONE only substance undivided but ONE God as Fire and Light is ONE 17. Thus he hath also created his Image Man according to his similitude out of his out-spoken substance out of ALL into ONE substance into one only Image and also inbreathed the Spirit of all the THREE Principles into ONE only Spirit 18. All the Three worlds viz The Eternall dark cold fiery viz the Eternall Nature as also the Eternall Light fiery together with the substance thereof viz the pure Element and therein the Paradise for also the outward Four Elementary and Syderiall world with its substance were in this created Image but One in like or Equall Concord or agreement 19. Man was and is the Inward and outward world the Inward World is the Heaven wherein God dwelleth thus was Man upon Earth in Heaven the Inward and outward was ONE the Inward manifested it self in the outward viz God in the Time the Outward is the Time that was in Man swallowed up in the Eternity but it was manifested in it self not totally for the Dominion but for the wonder of the Dominion of the Divine World 20. The Outward World knew it selfe not in the Time but it wrought in it selfe as an Instrument of the Master The outward Sulphur and Mercury of the Body were manifested in the power of the inward Spirituall Sulphur and Mercury The Tinctures of both were manifested in one another as One the Spirit wrought through the Time and that was a Paradise where neither heat nor cold might be manifested 21. The Life of Both worlds viz the Heavenly Holy in the Pure Element and also the outward in the Four Elements were but One only Life and that was a Similitude according to God viz an Expresse Image 22. For God dwelleth in the Time and the Time is not manifested in him but before him as a similitude it is IN him in the dominion all one The Time is servant and his work it liveth in it self but God is the Life of Time But in comprehensible to Time the Time ruleth not in God but it is in him as an Instrument wherewith he ruleth and maketh or worketh 23. But now understand us concerning the Soul The Soul is not out of the Temporary or Time-Nature the Time-Nature is but its dwelling-house even as an Instrument with which it maketh or worketh It hath in it self the Center to the Fire and Light world and out of the Center it became inbreathed into Adam by the Holy Spirit in the Moving of the Father out of the Three Principles 24. And this is its Fall and Sinne that it hath through its mighty desire manifested the Properties of the Dark World in the Center of the Eternall Nature which was done through Imagination in that it introduced its Lust into the Instrument of Time viz into the Outward world 25. And would try how it relished when the Equality of agreement went forth or away one from another so that Evill and good were Manifested each in it self it lusted to eat of the relish of both and thereby be omniscient and suttle as Lucifer in like manner so perished who lusted after the dark Center in the Fire-birth and awakened that in his desire that so the like concordance or equall agreement in him might be Manifested in an awakening of all Properties whence Lust and falshood or wickednesse existed to him 26. For if the Lifes forms viz the Forms of the Eternall Nature were manifest every One in it self then there is a great Enmity for every one will rule every One hath its own will and if this were not then there would be neither perceptibility nor finding but an Eternall stillnesse 27. But now the Lifes formes should not be manifested in the qualifying or operating each pressing forth but instanding in equall agreement like a Tuned Lute and the Spirit which was brought forth out of this equall agreement by Gods Spirit was also in equall agreement viz the Spirit of the Soule as the Aire out of the Fire that should enter into the Sound of God and strengthen it self in the power of the Light and with that very power strike the Cittron of the Lifes forms 28. But that it did not but it entered into own will and reached after the Center of the Lifes forms and awakened the same it would it SELF be GOD and made it self a dark Devill according to the first impression in the Fiat of its Property out of which in this world are evill poysonous worms and beasts come to be according to the outward Impression and that is the reall Fall of the Devill as also of Adam 29. But that we may render it better intelligible concerning Adam as also concerning his Wise Adam was a totall entire Image of God when God had created him then he was Man and Wife and yet neither of them but a modest Virgin in the Similitude of God 30. He had the Fires Matrix and also the Lights Matrix out of which through the Element water becometh generated through the dying in the Fire He had the Fires and Lights Desire in him viz the Mother of the Love
the Holy Trinity hath been hidden to all Creatures and yet is through the second moving of the Deity as a holy sweet Love-Sun become manifested 15. I must not say that in the Person CHRIST viz in the Man according to his humanity according to that part which he hath on him from us Men from our Body and Soul that is on to the Deity on to the Divine Substantiality or Heavenly Corporeity taken on to him That the Creature is ceased and taken up or that the Creature Soul and Body from us Men is unmeasurable 16. No for such a One is not our Eternall High Priest which I could never more see in the Form of Man for the Men when he went to Heaven said Ye shall SEE this JESUS come again as he is Ascended 17. Only the Deity in him and the Christ understand the divine property together with the Heavenly divine substantiality wherewith he saith John 3. 13. He was come from Heaven THIS is uncreaturely and yet IN every Man as an own Sun yet only in one point which shineth forth out of the fountain of this Sun indeed from no place or space but the place of this holy revelation or Manifestation is in ALL Men the Center of the Originall 18. This SUN is in all Men but this Sun is not revealed or manifested in all Men but only in the Desire to the Point which is CHRIST which point is JESUS out of JEHOVA 19. But concerning the Holy woman or wife which this Authour mentioneth which is holy and PERFECT wherein the Man CHRIST becometh generated needeth also a farre other Explanation 20. And though he sets down the Holy Christianity to be the woman or wife which I blame not yet a Man must not speak that concerning the outward Earthly Man for the Earthly Man is not Christs Spouse or Wife but the inward Spiritual which faded or disappeared in Adam the Heavenly which Christ as viz the Holy SUN vivifieth 21. But this Authours writing is altogether Contradictory and runnes counter against it selfe for here in this Point he writeth of this Spouse or Woman and Body thus which he NOT outwardly prepareth createth and maketh new but in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart from the beginning of the world instantly after the Fall in Grace Love and Mercy yes in the Faith espouseth betrotheth and uniteth to himself and prepareth it for his Eternall Rest In like manner also this holy Man CHRIST JESUS the Innocent Lamb of God yes the Triune highly praised Sonne of God God himself which was slain from the beginning of the world IN all Faithfull and Saints according to the Testimony of the Scripture 22. Before this Authour hath set down in another place that if CHRIST became manifest or revealed in Man then Nature falleth Totally away Now he sets it down that CHRIST in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart hath from the beginning of the world espoused and united himself with the Saints in the Faith which indeed were true if he did not speak it concerning the Man CHRIST but concerning the Promised CHRIST in the Covenant which first in Time fulfilled the Covenant 23. For Not CHRIST the Man who in the Time in the Limit of the Covenant manifested or revealed himselfe was slain in the Holy Patriarchs but the Children of Faith in whom the Covenant became manifested 24. CHRIST hath once given and offered up his holy Life in the sweet Love to his Father into his Anger which was manifested in the Humane Property and with the Love broken the Anger to pieces He hath not dyed in ALL the Saints from Adam to this time and suffered himself to be slain and put to death Only the Children of the Faith of the Covenant have suffered themselves to be put to death according to the MAN of SINNE that the word of Life in the Covenant in them might put on the new promised Life which would manifest it self in the Covenant with the future Sun of the New Life in the Spirit of the Covenant 25. So that when Christ would manifest himself in the Covenant in the Flesh he also in that Covenant which had manifested it selfe in them would be manifested in them with the divine Substantiality viz with Christs heavenly Flesh 26. For even after the Resurrection of Christ when he had assumed the Humanity and slain death it was not CHRIST that dyed any more in his Members in the Christians or was slain but Adam in Christs Death that Christs Spirit in the Soul and the holy Man might Live When Christ becometh born then should the Man of Sinne continually Dye till at last when the Outward body departeth it WHOLLY ceaseth 27. But if Christ the Lamb of God were become slain in the Old Patriarchs then the reconciliation was performed IN them and then it cometh not solely and onely from the Sonne of MARY 28. Abel was NOT the Lamb of God which was slain for Sinne Christ dyed not in Abel but in the BODY which he received from MARY 29. Abel and all the Martyrs dyed as to their own Bodies for the sake of the Covenant which opened it self in them they were slain and dyed as to their sinfull Adamicall Body and not as to the Holy Body which was shut up in the Covenant which Christ when he would manifest himself in the Covenant would manifest it to be an Eternall Life and holy Flesh in which he would dwell and be the power and Life thereof 30. When the Holy Scripture saith CHRIST was slain in the Saints then it understandeth then Members of the Body of CHRIST according to Christs humanity which HE the Christ assumed It understandeth not the Triune God that should suffer it selfe to be slain from the beginning of the world for doubtlesse God cannot dye That which dyeth is only the Body of Christs Members according to the humane Creature and not according to the Spirit of Christ 31. The Spirit of Christ hath therefore manifested it self in the Humanity and slain Death in his assumed Body that the Gates of Life in us should be opened for if I be murthered for the sake of Christs Name and the Testimony thereof then doth not Christ dye in me but Adam dyeth in Christs death and Christ in my dying becometh first rightly manifested 32. My dying is Christs Resurrection in ME for I dye away to the sinfull self-hood or Nothingnesse and live to the Resignation in the Spirit of Christ 33. Therefore this is a voyd and groundlesse thing that this Authour writeth that the Man Christ the Innocent Lamb of God God himself which from the beginning of the world according to the Testimony of the Scripture was slain in all the Saints and faithfull c. 34. The Triune God is not from the beginning of the world slain in his Saints the Scripture saith not so but the Faithfull Men were slain for Christs sake and NOT the Triune Christ IN them
passe from me and he prayed to God so that he sweat a bloudy sweat 4. Also when he would do Wonders or Miracles and Signes then he prayed his Father to hear him as may be seen by his raising Lazarus from Death Moreover it is written also that God will give his honour to no other Also I only am the LORD and GOD Also God is one only God and none Else 5. Therefore his Title and Introduction to the Person for whom he sets forth the Explanation is instantly very Erroneous and he will answer in the Perfect power of the Omniscience in and out of the Holy Trinity and esteemeth himself like God in every thing or substance and sets himself up as if he were God himself 6. He will in Christ with his totall humane substance outwardly and inwardly in all Saints be and know that which no Creature can know or do or be but the Spirit of God only which IN Every Man bloweth up the knowledge and imparteth to every one his own measure according to his gifts as be will not as the Creature willeth 7. But this man saith He will answer out of Christ out of his Eternall Wisdome out of the Heart and Mouth of God out of the holy Trinity 8. And though he had a divine command for it which a Man may very well doubt of and come to us in an Angelical Embassie yet he could NOT speak to us out of the Manifested or revealed sound or voyce of the Holy Trinity out of Christs self-subsisting Person but out of his Creature in divine Power through the Creaturely and humane Property in that kind as all men from the beginning of the world to this time have spoken 9. And though Men may with truth say that Gods Spirit speaketh through the Humane sound yet men should give the honour to God and not ascribe it to himself For it is written God will not give his honour to another he hath given it to his Son JESUS CHRIST to whom alone he hath given the holy Spirit in the Eternall Word without Measure and to no other 10. Whence Christ saith Matth 28. All power in Heaven and on Earth is given to me of my Father which no other Man while he liveth in this world dare say concerning his creaturely Humanity that he hath all power in Heaven and on Earth but only this JESUS whose out-going hath proceeded from Eternity 11. Also this JESUS CHRIST said when he would depart from us If any shall come and say he is Christ that we should not beleeve it and prophesied to us that Many false Christs and Prophets would arise after him of whom we should beware 12. Therefore it is very suspicious to us that this man will of himself speak out of the Heart and Mouth of the Holy Trinity for the Creature should humble himself before God and by no means say that he is God himself but a created work and Image of his Likenesse with whom God may do what he will 13. Further He speaketh of the Originall and Creation of Man so wonderfully that he cannot shew it in the Holy Scripture nor in the Light of Nature and there belongeth clean another Explanation to it 14. Yes he speaketh also of Christ so strangly that in briefe it appeareth to be no sufficient intelligible Explanation he saith CHRIST is from Eternity the expresse Image of God in the Divine Mother of his Love generated or born out of the voyce of the holy Trinity and so maketh a difference between the first born before all Creatures and the Holy Trinity and yet will have him also dwelling in the Holy Trinity 15. So he makes very wonderfully FOUR Persons as it should seem in the Deity as if the holy Trinity had from Eternity generated in it self some other Similitude and Image in which birth or geniture he also will have the Humane Originall from Eternity and so wonderfully blendeth one thing with another that a Man can not understand what God is and what Creature is 16. He saith God hath Created all Heavenly and Earthly Creatures in that first begotten or born Sonne of God and begotten the Sonne out of the Greatest Substance even to the least from Eternity out of God he understandeth thereby out of the Holy Trinity 17. And maketh all things one in another as a whirling Wheele so that a Man cannot understand out of what the Creaturely Originall is seeing he concludeth all without distinction in Christ and so setteth the Name of CHRIST as proceeding from Eternity 18. And saith that God hath brought forth all things in Christ and then he must also have brought forth all Evill venomous poysonous Worms and Beasts in Christ as also Darknesse and the hellish quality source or Torment and all whatsoever liveth in such a property 19. John saith in the first Chapter At the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and God was the Word the same was in the beginning with God through that he hath made all things that were made and without it was nothing made that was made John saith God was the Word and in him was the Life of Men. 20. He saith NOT At the Beginning was CHRIST but the Word that very Word became Man in the Virgin Mary that was Christ which quenched the Anger of his Eternall Father in the humane property through the Christ and the Crusher or bruiser of the Serpent and destroyed the Devills Den of Robbery in the humane property 21. When the Angel Gabriel came to Mary and brought her the Message That she should be impregnate and bear a Sonne whose Name she should call JESVS whose out-going is from Eternity to whom God the Father will give the Throne of his Father David 22. He saith NOT there whose Name you shall call JESUS CHRIST but only JESUS whose beginning and Exit is from Eternity but the Name CHRIST existed in the JESUS when he possessed the Throne of his Father David and brake the Head of the Serpent and shed his Heavenly Bloud into the Fathers Anger and quenched the same in the humane property with divine Love 23. There he obtained the Name CHRIST as a Healer of the Soar or the Anoynted of God a breaker through Death a victorious Prince over Hell Death and the Devill 24. No Creature is Created or made in the CHRIST but he in the Regeneratour of the humane property he bringeth the humane Life out of Death and generateth that in CHRIST through the Name JESUS in the divine Power anew and to be the Child of God 25. For CHRIST is the Mother of the Regeneration and not the Creatour of All things in which all things lye inclosed 26. The CHRIST is become Man but the JESUS in the CHRIST is the Creatour of all things 27. The CHRIST saith To ME is given all power both in Heaven and on Earth he saith not from Eternity God
and the Mouth Fall on and doth the work of the false or Evill desire 36. Then standeth Christ in his tender humanity in the inward Holy Body and reproveth the outward Man presseth upon him and taketh his power from him and setteth him before the Eyes in the Mind that it is abomination and Sinne and driveth him again to the unloading of that which the desire of the Flesh hath loaden upon him viz to abstinence and Repentance 37. Which is nothing else but a going again out of the Abomination and then the wrought Abomination remaineth to the Anger of God and to the Devill for food that is ITS refreshing but the Mystery of Man becometh Free again in it self 38. But as the Fowler watcheth the Fowles so the Devill watcheth upon the Soul so soon as it gazeth a little upon him then he bringeth his Imagination into it and stirreth the desire of the Flesh and then beginneth the Devills Dance again with whom Christ must fight without ceasing 39. But if he be not yet born and manifested in Man in the Heavenly Substantiality so that the fair Image standeth yet disappearing and without Life As in Truth with MOST it is so then know this That IMMANUEL viz the Spirit which in Paradise promised it self to Adam Eve and went to meet them in their Light of Life and called them saying Where art thou Adam in the Light of Life of the Soul and did set it self towards them with great desire and now continually calleth the soul saying it should incline and turn it self to GOD. 40. Then will JESUS manifest himself in the faded or disappeared Image and Generate CHRIST viz a New Life in the heavenly Substantiality and that is the true drawing of the Father whereof Christ speaketh saying None cometh to me except the Father draw him the Father draweth the Soul that it should enter into Gods Love and Mercy 41. And if it entereth in then is JESUS CHRIST a true Man in the faded disappeared Substance and possesseth the Gates of the Deep and of those saith Christ My Lambs shall none pluck out of my hands for if HE be born then may the Devill rage and rave and throw the BODY as it were to the ground yet then the Saviour standeth in the Battle and draweth the whole Man continually again out of the misery and raiseth him up before him that man runneth continually again to Repentance of his abominations heaped on him from the Devill and unloadeth himself of them again 42. But concerning the Conception of Children That a right true Regenerate Christian Man should beget his Children totally Holy without Guilt as this Authour conceiteth that is Babell and a great Errour which the Serpent introduceth under which it will cover it self that a Man might not know the Kitling it would fain be called Holy Men have a long time called it the Black slick Evill Devill and now it would once fain be called also Christ and a God but the Most high hath discovered it so that we see and know it and would have you Christianly warned 43. Every Tree and Vegetable bringeth forth fruit out of it selfe as the Plant is but know this That the spirit of Nature presseth so hard together into the power out of which the branch groweth that the branch oftentimes becometh evill withered yea altogether a dry rotten Branch 44. THUS it is with Man that which is sown that groweth but Gods Anger through the Devils Imagination especially when he observeth that the outward Constellation of the Starres in the Elements is evill presseth it self often in therewith so that honest Parents beget evill Children and on the contrary also many times evill Parents beget honest Children as experience maketh it apparent before our Eyes 45. And to that End CHRIST hath commanded us the Infant Baptisme to baptize the Child in the Name of the Holy Trinity then he will thus in this his Covenant be powerfull and with his power kindle again the poor captive Tinder and take the Serpents Poyson away out of the Light of Life so that the divine drawing standeth open 46. Then the introduced Poyson remaineth IN the outward Flesh which will afterwards be broken in CHRIST and the Gates out and in stand open to Man and then it is as it is written To whom you give your selves as Servants in Obedience his servants ye are whether of Sinne to Death or of the Obedience of God to Righteousnesse 47. The Soul hath free-will to go OUT and IN but it can NOT generate it self in Christ it must only go out of its own Evill Will and enter into Gods Mercy Then CHRISTS Spirit which in JESU stood presented to the Soul in the Light of Life taketh it in his Armes of the desire and Sprouteth in its desire in the faded disappeared Substantiality forth from the pure Element of Heaven as a New Life out of Death and that is CHRIST Man and God 48. Readers let me perswade you iry it goe with it into the Holy Scripture try it inwardly and outwardly and learn the Truth out of Christs Spirit then you will put no belief in him but we have seen it in Ternario Sancto in the holy Ternary and know what we write 49. But I am a Childe whose understanding hangeth at the Breasts of my Mother and have no authority and NO understanding unlesse what my Mother giveth me I lye in imbecillity as a dying Man but the most high raiseth me up in his Breath so that I go according to his Wind. 50. But I warn you Christianly that you would understand the zeal to the welfare of your own Souls I have wages enough If I attain your Breath and may Sprout up IN you and may give you my Life what should I give you more take the present and lay it well to Heart 51. Not in opinion only but introduce it into the Breath of God and try it in Body and Soul and take the cleernesse thereof let affections go they are not the Pearl but set for the shame of a sinner that the Evill and Malice might cease and not pride it self in FLESH take only the pure Oyle for healing the rest taketh not hold of the Souls Wounds but only the wounds in the outward Man I pray the Reader not to interpret this otherwise then as it hath its true Ground 52. Now as to what the Authour saith concerning the Good Divine Wife or Woman which doth not exist from Adams sinfull Flesh and evill Lust which conceiveth and generateth the Holy Man which is CHRIST God and Man THAT I also beleeve it is true But his understanding is erroneous in that he understandeth it to be out of the outward Man and will have a totall transmutation of the outward into the inward in this world 53. The Good Wife or Woman is the Heavenly Image viz the second Principle which dyed in Adam in that very faded or
35. Man in his self-hood and I-hood is not Christ himself but Christ dwelleth in him he is the shining Lustre of his holy Life as himself saith John 8. 12. I am the Light of the World This he speaketh according to the Name CHRIST out of JESUS and not according to our Humanity which Dyed on the Crosse concerning which Isaiah calleth him a simple Servant in that he saith who is so simple as my servant 36. This Servant of God is not the Holy Trinity but the revelation or Manifestation and habitation of the holy Trinity the servant is become slain as a Lamb and not the holy Trinity Men should alwayes make a difference between God and the Humanity else if God were dead in his Trinity then were Death stronger than God who must thus have given himself up to Death 37. Christ is indeed God and Man in ONE Person but the Deity viz the Divine Property is not the Person the Man but the Homo or humanity is the Man and the Lamb of God which was slain and is called Christ from the Anointing so that God hath anointed this humanity of CHRIST with his Spirit without measure for the JESUS is the Anointing viz the Deep Love in the Deity 38. Therefore now the Lamb of God according to the humanity viz IN the Members thereof wherein the promised Covenant was out of which Covenant the Anointing would manifest or reveal it self was slain not Christ the Anointed of God which in the Covenant was hidden in them 39. Abel was not anointed with Christ but indeed with the promised word in the Covenant in which the Christ manifested himself and when Christ manifested himself in the Covenant in the Humane property THEN Abel put on Christ in the Flesh before Christs humanity Abel had put on the Covenant in the promised Word and WHEN Christ arose from the Dead then Abel also arose in Christs anointing in Christs humanity out of Christs Death and lived in the Anointing of Christ 40. The Man Christ is the First that arose from the Dead in the Anointing and is also the First who in the Anointing dyed to the Humane I-hood He is only and alone the Lamb of God in whom God brake his wrath to pieces Abel and all Martyrs are his Members upon whom the breaking death in pieces pressed or penetrated out of this Lamb Christ 41. Abel received an imputed Righteousnesse not a self wrought one of his own Abel before the humanity of Christ was not the Lamb of God but he was a Member in the Lamb of God Christ hath in all things the preheminence and none of them hath been able to call himself a Christian much lesse the Lamb of God that is hath been Slain for or instead of Christ 42. They have all of them only been put to death in the spirit of Faith upon Christs future coming they have put on Christ in the Covenant of Promise in the Spirit of Faith Not as a Lamb or Man but in Power not in the Flesh but in the Spirit so that Christ is the First who in the Flesh should be called The Lamb of God 43. This Authour mentioneth in this Manner But also this holy divine Substantial womans seed hath in and to the Saints appeared and been manifest in many kinds and wayes as in Adam and Eve after the Fall If this be so that the divine substantiall womans Seed was manifest in Adam and Eve then they have put on Christ viz the true womans Seed in Substance 44. And then they need not expect further about any other womans seed why did Eve then say when she bare Cain I have the Man the LORD if she had before the substantiall womans seed manifested in her why did she then hope for another 45. And God said also to Abraham In thy seed shall all Nations be blessed this was spoken concerning the future womans seed which would manifest himself in Abrahams seed Substantially with divine Heavenly Substantiality 46. If it were spoken as to the present then God had not commanded him the Circumcasion and after that the Sacrifice The Substantiall womans seed was not in the Sacrifice but the word of Promise in the Covenant 47. The substantiall seed of which God said therein all Nations should become blessed that lay shut up in Abraham unlesse the opening of the Name JESUS should open it the Promise to Abraham went on as to the Limit 48. That very substantiality wherein God would become Man was saded or disappeared in Adam when he dyed to the Kingdome of Heaven and Paradise This saded or disappeared Seed become in its Principle co-propagated 49. And in this Seed stood the limit of the Covenant out of which the Spirit of God in the Saints manifested it self and not through the faded or disappeared substance but with Christs becoming Man or Incarnation the Substantiall revelation or Manifestation proceeded where God dwelleth within in the substance viz as a Life of the Substance 50. Also this Authour writeth further And after that through Christ the Triune highly praised God himselfe the promise of the Perfect womans seed of the Messiah was pronounced and promised to them The strong Hope Faith and Confidence in this womans Seed caused it self openly to sound forth from them 51. Now if Christ dwelt substantially in Adam and Eve what need he then promise another substance to them I verily think Christ would not be manifested or revealed in Adam much lesse hath Christ promised Adam to become Man in his seed but God promised the Christ to Adam viz to awaken the Anointed of God in his seed viz in the womans seed and not in the Mans seed As in the Fourth Point shall be expressed at large 52. Christ stood in Adam and Eve in the Limit of the Covenant in the Name JESU in JEHOVAH in divine hiddennesse or secresie in the seed of Adam and Eve without humane substance and unmoveably in the promised seed till the End of the Limit there he moved himself in the womans seed 53. This High hitherto much repeated Speech concerning the Triune Womans Seed before Christs Humanity is much more a Confusion than an Explanation the CHRIST in the womans seed was manifested in No Saint before Christs Birth but only in the Spirit of the Deity in a Prophetick manner and not in a Humane Manner 54. By the womans Seed is alwayes understood the Paradise which faded or disappeared in Adam viz the Heavenly corporeity from the pure Element and NOT the FOUR Elements this was manifest neither in Adam nor Abel till the Saviour CHRIST became manifest in this Seed 55. This Authour so wonderfully blends one in another that it hath no sufficient understanding one while he speaks of Faith that the Saints have had the womans seed manifested in the Faith then suddenly he speaks of the substance whereas in the Substance there was no manifestation or revelation in THEM but only in