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A47739 A defence of a book intituled, The snake in the grass in reply to several answers put out to it by George Whithead, Joseph Wyeth, &c. Leslie, Charles, 1650-1722. 1700 (1700) Wing L1126; ESTC R13374 294,979 550

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the Gift of God He of His Infinit Mercy Grant it at length to these Miserably Deluded Souls For they yet stick fast in this Root of Bitterness and Bond of Iniquity As you may see in a Book lately Publish'd by one of themselves but who has with others happily Discover'd the most Gross of their Heresies this is one Daniel Leeds in America his Book is Intitul'd News of a Trumpet Sounding in the Wilderness Printed at New-York An. 1697. And some Numbers of them are sent over hither There at the Conclusion of the Preface he tells of the Doctrin which is at Present Preach'd among the Quakers in America One Preach'd thus says he It is the work of the Devil to cause People that have Profest the Appearance of Christ in the Heart to Respect the Person without them Another Preached thus I am Grieved that any that have Profest the Light shou'd now direct the Minds of People to Respect him as he is now in Heaven above the Clouds Truly Friends it is Delusion Another Preach'd thus There is that wou'd have Flesh added in the Creed but let them take it that will I believe the Lord will give them his Plagues and Torments with it Of this a Quaker there one Abraham Hulings complained and gave in a Paper with the above cited Quotations under his hand to the Quakers Church at Burlington desiring them to censure this Doctrin But they wou'd not On the contrary they Exccommunicated or Disown'd as they Phrase it this Hulings for opposing this Doctrin Moreover says Dan. Leeds there is one John Humphrey a Preacher near Philidelphia that writes a Letter against G. Keith and his Friends wherein he has this Expression I am Grieved to hear some say they expect to be Justify'd by that Blood that was shed at Jerusalem In Justification of which Passage he writes in another Letter thus His Christs own words will clear me from your Aspersion Joh. 6.63 It is the Spirit that Quickneth the Flesh profiteth nothing So He himself ascribes the work of Mans Salvation and Sanctification not to the Flesh that Suffer'd but to the Spirit that Quickned Not to the Blood that was shed at Jerusalem but unto that Flesh and Blood which was Spiritual c. of this False Doctrin G. K. complain'd to the Quarterly Meeting at Philadelphia but no Answer cou'd he have nor no Blame nor Condemnation must pass against their Brother John Humphrey for this False Doctrin tho' it 's near Six years since these Letters were Writ Thus far Dan. Leeds As to the Quakers mis-understanding of this and other Texs in the 6th of St. John it is Rectify'd before p. 101. this Text. ver 63. is an Explanation of ver 53. viz. That it was Christ's Literal Flesh of which He spoke but He corrected the Gross Conception of Eating it Literally in which sense it wou'd not have Profited any who had Eat it But the Spiritual-Eating of it by Faith is that which Quickneth but the Quakers put the Figure and the Allegorie upon the Flesh as if it were not the Outward Flesh of Christ of which He spoke but an Inward and Allegorical Flesh by which they mean what they call their Light within And so Enervat and Evacuat the Whole Foundation of the Christian Faith Dan. Leeds Informs Us That in America the Quakers had heard that their Brethren in England particularly at London where most Notice has been taken of the Late Controversies with them had begun of Late to Preach of an outward Christ and of His Death and Sufferings But this is only to Amuse For as has been said they are not Charg'd with Denying the Matter of Fact that Jesus of Nazareth did Suffer as is Recorded of Him in the H. Gospel And which they now Preach to make themselves Appear to be Christians But who ever heard them Preach of Faith in Him His outward Sufferings and Death as of any Necessity to Salvation This only is the Christian Faith The other of an Historical Belief that He did Suffer is no more than what Jews and Mahometans do Confess And which the very Devils do Believe and Tremble And no more have the Quakers yet Preached But they think that a Great Deal and are brought to it with mere Force For till of late the outward Christ or Jesus of Nazareth was seldom or never so much as mention'd in any of their Meetings unless to Revile and cast Dirt upon Him To give it as a Mark of False Ministers Will. Smith's Primmer p. 8. Gr. Mystery p. 250. to Preach Christ without and bid People believe in Him as He is in Heaven above Nay as a Proof of their being Possest with the Devil as G. Fox Blasphemes The Devil was in thee says he to a Christian Thou say'st thou art Saved by Christ without thee and so hast Recorded thy self to be a Reprobate But tho' the Quaker Preachers in London to stop the Cry against them have of late submitted to Mention the outward Christ with some seeming Respect Yet in the Country where they have less Politicks and more Honesty they cannot be brought even to that as you may see in Sat. Dis. Glean Sect. vi N. 4. p. 94. And there are later Instances which G. Keith met with in a Progress he made last Summer by Invitation from some Quakers who begin to open their Eyes in Huntington-shire and other Places thereabouts where tho' kindly Receiv'd and the Doctrin he Preach'd of Faith in the Lord Jesus of Nazareth and what He Did and Suffer'd for us well Entertain'd and Listen'd to by several of the Sincere tho' Deluded among the Quakers Yet it was a New Doctrin to them And ther were others who violently oppos'd this Doctrin particularly of the Quaker both He and She-Preachers one of which at St. Ives in Hunington-shire ask'd him what Christ he Preached He said The Man Jesus of Nazareth who was Born of the Virgin Nail'd to the Cross c. She askt what was become of him G. K. said That He was gone into Heaven What said she that Heaven above our Heads Pointing upwards Which she Ridicul'd And said she knew no Christ or Heaven but within her self Thank'd God That she had Bread in her own House and Water in her own Cestern And did not believe that ther was any thing without her cou'd do her any Good And upbraided G. K. that he cou'd not be content with the Ancient Doctrin of Friends of Faith in the Light within as alone sufficient to Salvation and ask'd him if now he wou'd have any thing else Or wou'd he make himself Wiser than all the Friends who had gone before And to the like purpose A He-Preacher at Charteres in the Isle of Ely being askt by G. K. What he suppos'd was become of that Body which Christ took of our Nature Answered That He left it behind Him when He Rose from the Dead And he Profess'd to Believe in no other Christ but only his Light
And Prophesy'd of the Mighty things which GOD had to do with them In order to which the QVAKERS gave them their Directions from THE LORD how to Manage But their SPIRIT of DISCERNING Fail'd them here as it us'd to serve them For within seven Days after the Date of this their Address to that Parliament they were Turn'd out by Lambert Which they little suspecting but thinking that they were to hold the Reins of Government for a longer time gave their Wise Instructions in the above Quoted Councel and Advice to Employ the QVAKERS in their Affairs And then all would do well without Doubt Tho' by the Advice they Gave the Quakers were of all Men the least Fit to be Employ'd They Hit Themselves Exactly in the Description they gave of other Men For they Advis'd not to Employ WILLFVL and HEADY Men not VN-CONSTANT and CHANGEABLE Men nor TRAYTORS that have Turn'd for self Advantage and will CHANGE with the TIMES to any way of Government c. But especially they Guarded against the Return of Hereditary Monarchy as before Quoted Yet as soon as that Return'd in the Restauration of the Royal Family which was within 7 Months after this was wrote then the Quakers were for the King and Monarchy And without any Blush Vpbraided and Accused the other Dissenters to the King as Changeable Men who Turn'd to Every Power and every Government as it Turn'd And therefore not fit to be Trusted See their Two Declarations in Sn. p. 224. and p. 227. And from this time they Began to Chop and Change Curtail and Alter their Former Books in the Re-printing of them And this not only in leaving out whole Chapters and some Intire Treatises as those before Instanc'd which were so Rank as could not possibly be Screw'd to mean any thing short of Bare-fac'd TREASON and REBELLION But they took care likewise of Words and Expressions that might give Offence for Example 3. In The Trumpet of Burrough's before Quoted p. 7. he Accuses the Officers and Souldiers for Exercising the like Tyranny as the King had done The same Oppression says he and Kingly Power of Cruelty stands in Dominion under another Appearance But in his Works Re-printed p. 99. the word Kingly is left out 4. In a Letter to Oliver with whom he Rejoyceth and Congratulats for the Many Victories Honourable and Remarkable which says he to OLIVER were given thee over them who had Exalted themselves above God And Ruled in Tyranny over his People whom the Lord pitied and thou an Instrument in his Hand was ordain'd by him to lead forth a People whom he Blessed with thee against a Cruel People and Generation of Oppressors who Exercised Tyranny over the Lord's Heritage till they were taken away and cast out and is a Reproach unto the Lord and his People unto this day and even so shall all be that follows their Example and are Oppressors and Tyrants over the seed of God as they were And this thou knowest c. This Letter is in p. 552. of Burrough's Works Re-printed But all within the Crotchets in Roman Letters is left out which I have Copy'd out of the First Edition of what he Intitules Good Councel and Advice Rejected Printed An. 1659. p. 4. And it bears this Direction For the hands of the Protector This Book consists of Letters from Burrough to Oliver and Richard Protectors And on the Title-Page he says Put to Publick View by one that wished well to them in their Day But this is likewise left out in the Re-print Ther are several other such like Passages of this Book left out in the Re-printing of it among the Rest of Burrough's Works As 5. In p. 17. Where Instigating Oliver against his Enemies Scatter'd through all these Nations who is full of Wrath and Ravening Envy towards thee Even of those known by the Name of MALIGNANTS party in whose hearts to this day ther is continual Hatred and evil surmising lodgeth against thee and all thy offspring And not slipping any Advantage how to Revenge themselves and the Cause of their King The above words within the Crotchet viz. Those known by the Name of MALIGNANTS Party are left out in p. 559. of Burrough's Works And the last words in this Quotation viz. The Cause of their King are Changed thus To Promote their Cause 6. In the same Page he says thus to Oliver of the King and the Malignants I know the Lord hath Cursed them and their Endeavours to this day and thou hast had Dominion and Power given thee of God to Bruise them and Break them to Pieces And what thou hast done unto their KING should not be Reckoned against thee by the Lord if now thou wert faithful to what he Requireth of thee for because of the Wickedness of that Generation which was Grown to the full did the Lord Raise thee up c. These words within the Crotchets are left out in his Works p. 560. Whereby neither King nor Malignants being Nam'd the Quakers may have a Latitude to Pretend when Challeng'd That they did not mean Them but some other Wicked People Especially they wou'd not Desire to have it known That they Pronounced Absolution from the Lord to Oliver for his Murther of the King 7. In p. 38. He writes To the Protector 's Kindred his Wife and Children and says God gave you the Palace of Princes And threw out the High and Mighty before you because of their Wickedness which was Great in the sight of the Lord Even for that Cause was the Generations of the STEWARTS cast out And if you walk in the same steps c. These words within the Crotchets are left out in p. 569. of Burrough's Works Tho' in the same above cited p. 38. he says Remember that you are now Warned from the Lord God by whom I am moved to Write this unto you in Dear and Tender Love to you all What Spirit then was it which moved the after Quakers thus to Diminish and Curtail these Words which Burrough said he was Moved of the Lord to Write 8. The following words in p. 64. are left out in p. 580. of his Works viz. And as concerning the Armies abroad let Faithful and Just Men that will not seek themselves be put in trust for the Army is of Great Consequence to thee to stand or Fall by them as to Mans account And the War against Spain be faithful to God in it and let Trusty Men have Authority The Lord may Accomplish something by it to his Honour and to Thine if thou be Meek and Humble and Walk with the Lord. And to say no more about it ther is something in it known to the Lord and he may bring it to pass in his Season The after Quakers left out this Prophetical Admonition for it was Given to Richard in the Beginning of his short Protectorship the 18. of the 8. Month. 1658. And they had Reason to be Asham'd of those Auspicious Hopes which their Light within
1.19 is Perverted when taken in that sense and averrs that the Apostle there Doth not tell of Human Blood to Redeem them with for says he Human is Earthly What Blood is it then which Redeems Us He go's on to tell in the next words But Christ whose Blood is Spiritual is Lord from Heaven c. And then he Asks Was that Human Blood which Christ saith except a Man Drink he hath no Life in him and which Cleansed the Saints from all Sin who were Flesh of Christ 's Flesh and Bone of His Bone G. W. means that this cou'd not be the outward-Flesh But that it was the Eternal and Spiritual Flesh before spoke of Which the Quakers suppose that they have within them and this is it which they call their Light within But I will Answer this Quere of G. Whitehead's because I believe he ask'd it thro' Ignorance and that many Quakers are Deluded by it Therefore I say That it was Human Blood of which Christ said Except a man drink of it c. But the Figure lies in the word Drink not that we were literally to Drink the very Material Blood of Christ but to Feed upon it in our Hearts by Faith i. e. in the Satisfaction and Atonement thereby made to God for our Sins But to put the Figure upon the Blood as if that were only Figurative and not True Real Material and Human Blood which Christ offer'd for us but a Notional Spiritual which is not Real Blood this is the Fandamental Error of the Quakers and which overturns the whole Christian Faith And now what do's it signifie to bring Quotations out of the Quaker Books which speak of the Blood of Christ and bear witness to it while they mean not Real or Human Blood of our Nature but only the Inward Spiritual Life of Christ in our Hearts And do not Distinguish this at all from His Blood As G. W. says in the same Book before Quoted Truth defending c. p. 63. Whose Christ's Blood is not differing from His Life which Redeemeth from sin as thou Imaginest says he to his opponent Christopher Wade who having said as G. W. Quotes him That our Blessed Saviour did Instruct men to lay fast hold of and to abide in such a Faith which Confideth in Himself being Without Men. G. W. Replies p. 65. That 's Contrary to the Apostles Doctrin And the Saints Faith stood in the Power of God which was In them Again ibid. G. W. opposes this of C. Wade's which he Quotes That the true Christ doth by infallible Arguments prove Himself not to be a Spirit i. e. not a meer Spirit as in the next page G. W. Quotes him And G. W. gives the like Answer to this which is says he Quite against the Apostles Doctrin who Preach'd Christ In them the Hope of Glory and a Quickening Spirit That Christ is a Spirit and Ever was no Christian Doubts But that He has not likewise a Body not from Eternity as Quakers and Muggletonians madly Dream but an Human Body of our Nature which He took into His own Nature in the Womb of the Blessed Virgin and will for Ever Retain United in His Person true God and Man and therefore is not now a meer Spirit as before His Incarnation none can Deny but the Grossest of Hereticks And G. W. here Denies it and says That to affirm Christ not to be a meer Spirit is contrary to the Apostles Doctrin who Preach'd Christ In them No Christian denies but that Christ by His Blessed Spirit and Influence do's Dwell in the Hearts of Believers But therefore to Deny the Demonstration which Christ gave Luk. xxiv 39. That He was not a Spirit but had true Flesh and Bones is such a Degree of sottish Infatuation as has Possest none amongst us but these Miserable Quakers Why else did G. W. oppose C. Wade for urging this Scripture in Proof that Christ was not a Spirit but had a True Real Human Body G. Whitehead's meaning was as before shew'd p. 18. that the Person who then Appear'd to the Apostles was not the Christ. No but only a Vail or Garment of Borrow'd Flesh and Blood which He Wore And by which the Quakers expect no Justification but only by their own Works wrought In them by the Spirit Thus ibid. p. 62. G. Whitehead brings in C. Wade saying thus That God doth totally exclude works whether wrought by Men or by any Spirit in man whatsoever for Mens Justification He do's not Exclude Works as being a Necessary Effect of Faith and as Requir'd by God and without which when Possible true Faith cannot be nor can men otherwise be made Partakers of the Benefit and Purchase made for Us by the Obedience and Death of Christ But that our works tho' wrought in us by the Operation of the Holy Spirit as all our Good Works are yet must not come in for any share of the Merit and Satisfaction for Sin and our Justification thereby Psal xlix 8. For it Cost more to Redeem our Souls so that we must let that alone for Ever Our Works tho' necessary to Qualifie us and make us Susceptible of that Justification which Christ hath Purchased for us by His Blood yet are they Totally Excluded from being any Part of the Meritorious or Procuring Cause of our Justification And to this G. Whitehead's Answer is This is a Doctrin of the Devil The same Answer He and Will. Penn Repeated in their Serious Apologie Printed An. 1671. to shew they Alter not p. 148. to those who objected to them That they Deny'd Justification by the Righteousness which Christ hath fulfilled in His own Person for us wholly without us and therefore Deny the Lord that bought us To which their Answer is in these words And indeed this we Deny and Boldly affirm it In the Name of the Lord To be the Doctrin of Devils and an Arm of the Sea of Corruption which do's now Deluge the whole World It makes ones Hair stand on End to Hear such outragious Blasphemy against the very Heart and Foundation of the Christian Religion Against which the Cursed Spirit do's thus Gnash his Teeth to see his Chief Principle Attackt of making men trust for their Justification and Salvation to what is wrought in their Hearts by the Spirit of God as they suppose for which they oft mistake as in the Present Case the most Venemous Suggestions of the Devil Now if the Quaker method of Contrary Testimonies wou'd be allow'd See 2d Part. Sect. ii N. 3. they might Easily get off from all this by what Will. Penn has wrote in Point blank Contradiction to what is above Quoted in his Primitive Christianity Printed 1696. p. 79. where he owns Justification only for the sake of the Death and Sufferings of Christ And nothing we can do says he though by the Operation of the Holy Spirit being able to Cancel old Debts or wipe out old Scores You see he says here Though by the
Body of Christ is within them as well as His Spirit Indeed they are here in a monstrous Confusion for by this Body they mean the Spirit and by a Spiritual Body they mean nothing but Spirit However this serves them to Dodge and Decieve others It was to meet with them in this that the First and the Sixth Quaeres of those given to their Yearly Meeting 1695. were fram'd viz. Do you believe in a Christ without you Now in Heaven And Quaer 6. Is Christ now at this Day and for Ever to come Truly and Really a Man in true and Proper Human Nature without all other Men But in their Pretended Answer to these Quaeres they wave Answering Directly and leave out the words without us and without all other Men and the word Human upon which the Chief stress was laid because they do believe that this Notional Body of Christ is within them as well as His Spirit Therefore they wou'd not Answer to this And tho' this was again Prest upon them in the Conclusion of the Sn. and they were told of all this Dodging and this was put upon them as a Criterion to Clear themselves and therefore they were Desir'd to begin their Answer to the Sn. with a Plain and Direct Ans Yea or Nay to these Two short Queres Yet no Provocation can bring them to it They will not yet Answer to it for it Discovers the Heart of their Cause It wou'd totally overthrow their Ancient Testimonies wherein they Deny That Christ hath now a Body of Flesh and Bones Circumscript or Limited in that Heaven which is Above and out of Every Man on Earth These are the words of John Whitehead in his Quakers Refuge Printed 1673. p. 40. And p. 41. he says that they are in the Error who wou'd Limit it to a Particular Place and out of every Man on Earth for says he The Spirit and Body of Christ is not Divided but wheresoever the Spirit and Life of Christ is it is in the Body of Christ. This shews plainly what they mean That the Body of Christ is not Now a Body Circumscript or Limited to any Place and consequently it is no Body at all for that is Inseperable from a Body but that it is wheresoever His Spirit is and that it is within them and not without all other Men. Thus Edward Burough being Demanded in these Positive Terms Is that very man with that very Body within you Yea or Nay And this he do's not at all Deny but Answers in the Affirmative p. 149. of his works The very Christ of God is within us You must take the meaning of these men by Considering that to which they Answer and which they oppose for in a Limited sense Christ by His Holy Spirit and Influences is within us and Christ is The very Christ so that ther is a sense in which that Expression tho' offensive in the wording of it may be admitted But then when we consider that which they Oppose or to which they Answer the meaning appears Plain for why wou'd they Oppose what they thought Orthodox And this is the method by which we must understand G. Fox's Great Mystery which is a Pretended Answer to 108 Books and Disputes against the Quakers For G. Fox's own words are ●eldom either Sense or English and he Miserably Mis-Quotes and Mistakes their words whom he writes against sometimes it appears to be on Purpose and sometimes out of Pure want of Vnderstanding Half Knave and Half Fool But by Reading those Books which he opposes you may Discover what he wou'd be at Instances of this out of Number can be given Which if any think it worth the while are Ready to be Produc'd But to the Subject we are upon The first Book he Answers in his Great Mystery is of one of the then Ministers Mr. Sam. Eaton call'd The Quakers Confuted Printed A. D. 1654. where p. 12. Mr. Eaton makes as full a Confession as can be to the Inward Presense and Operation of Christ by His Spirit in the Hearts of Believers And therein says he they have Him But they have not Christ in Flesh or the Flesh of Christ dwelling in them for that was taken up into Heaven and will there be Contain'd till the Restitution of All things This G. Fox opposes in his Great Mystery p. 3. And Quotes thus much of his words with the Page But the Saints have not Christ in the Flesh p. 12. And opposes this as Contrary to Christ and the Apostles Doctrin who said they were of His Flesh and of his Bone and they that have His Flesh have it in them This shews in what sense he Understood these Scriptures and what his Notion was of the Flesh of Christ viz. That it was now at this time in all Believers and so not any Literal Flesh but some Imagination or other that they have of Spiritual Flesh which they think that God Himself has and Christ or the Light had from all Eternity so nothing of outward Human Flesh or Nature Tho' if you take the word Human as it may be Deriv'd from Homo a Man thus they will allow that Christ has a True Human Body and Ever had from Eternity that is a True and Real Manhood In this sense it is said before p. 11. l. 8. that they allow the Body which they say Christ had from Eternity to be an Human Body For ther is no other word in Latin whereby to Express the Nature of Man but Humanitas whence we use the word Humanity to mean the same as Manhood But if you Derive the word Human from Humus the Ground or Earth of which Man was Made in this sense the Quakers Deny that Christ had an Human Body from Eternity or indeed while He was upon the Earth For which I Refer you back to p. 19 20. where you will find this Artfully Distinguish'd by the Quakers But we will now go on to see the further Salvos that the Present Antidote affords in this Case Their Denyal that Christ had any Human or Created richer Soul or Body while upon Earth 2. G. W. Skips to p. 38. And takes up this Argument again where he Pretends to Answer the objection of the Quakers making the Body of Jesus only a Vaile or Garment wherein Christ or the word Dwelt but that He took not that Body into His own Person so as to be Hypostatycally United to it And to this he says p. 38. We are to seek herein as not knowing where the Quakers say these things Yet Answers not or Names one of the many Proofs which are brought for this See Sn. Sect. x. This wou'd be very Provoking but that I am us'd to it for it is his Constant Method Yet in the Excuse he makes for it he Confesses enough to shew that the Quakers are Guilty herein For says he Tho' His Flesh is call'd the Vail yet it was that he own'd as His own Body being also call'd the Body of
likewise the Inward operations of His Spirit in our Hearts And that if Will. Penn or Thom. Elwood cannot Name one single Man much less any of those Communions which he Disputes against that ever thought Christ's outward Appearance wou'd save them without His Inward Appearance in their Consciences then against whom have they Disputed The Objection being thus stated wherein I take no Notice of his misplacing some words to hurt both the Sense and the English he Answers thus Yes I can Name one Single Man whom he has Vindicated against Us. in G. K's behalf who has both thought and said as much as That Christ's outward Appearance and Sufferings has saved them without his Appearance or Work in them And that is the said Rob. Gordon And it 's Charged against him among his many other Corrupt Doctrins by G. Keith in My and his Book Entituled The Nature of Christianity p. 70. 71. Artic. 1. That Christ without Us upon the Cross hath already subdued all things finished Transgression Made an end of Sin abolish'd Condemnation and Death Art 8. That Redemption Justification were finished and Completed in the Crucify'd Body of Christ for Us not in our Persons Art 12. That Redemption and all things are wrought Purchas'd for Us without the help of any thing to be wrought in Us. So that here was one Man i. e. R. G. and too many more that laid the whole stress and work of Mans Salvation Only upon Christ's outward Appearance and Suffering without His Inward Appearance and Operations by His Spirit in Vs I have given G. W's words at large because upon this Depends the whole Cause of Quakerism Therefore I will Examin them Fully and Fairly But first let me take notice of the Modesty of the Quaker-stile In My and His Book says G. W. It founds Harsh in English because so Vnusual But G. W. wou'd not Give Place to G. K. He Reserves His Dignity And Comon Civility is an Heresie among the Quakers But now to our Work And first I observe That G. W. has left out in the Articles he Quotes out of His and G. K's Book the pages in R. Gordon's Book call'd A Testimony to the true Saviour to which their Nature of Christianity is in Answer For there the Pages of R. G's book are Quoted after Each Article Which was wisely done of G. W. That none might know where to find the Quotations unless they wou'd have Recourse to G. W's Nature of Christianity which not one of a Thousand knows where to find It was Printed An. 1671. and now hardly to be Got. And G. W. not only leaves out the Pages but do's not so much as Name that Book of R. G's out of which they are taken that his Reader might be left Sufficiently in the Dark And that he had Good Reason so to do will soon Appear To These Articles here Quoted these pages of R. G's Testimony are added in The Nature of Christianity viz. p. 3. 4. 5. 20. And whoever will Read these will see R. G. fully Clear himself from this Imputation cast upon him and that he had given no Ground at all for these Objections made against him P. 4. and 5. he makes Two great Gospel Truths The first God manifest in the Flesh of Christ whereby Christ became our H. Priest in the Flesh therein to offer up himself the one Perfect Sacrifice Sufficient Atonement the Compleat Peace-Offering Once for Ever not often and in Every Generation and in Many Bodies as the Quakers say he Dayly offers Himself in their Bodies but in One Body by one Offering not in our Persons or Within Vs which is the Exact Quaker Notion but in His Crucifi'd Body without Vs and before any Good wrought in Vs whereby He hath already subdued all things finished Transgression made an end of Sin Abolished Condemnation and Death and so hath for Ever as our Head in Himself compleated the work of our Redemption and Reconciliation with God for Vs God thereby commending His Love towards Vs that while we were yet Sinners Christ Dyed for Vs when we were Enemies we were Reconciled to God by the Death of his Son The other Truth is the Mystery of Christ by His Spirit Dwelling in His Saints called in the H. Scripture Christ within you whereby God works In Us through Faith in Christ the Fruit and Effect of the work already wrought by Christ in His Crucifi'd Body for Vs without Vs And then he tells that for which he Reprehends the Quakers viz. That they Pretend so much zeal for this Mysterie of Christ within the Operations and Actings of the Spirit of God in themselves That they Deny the Mysterie of God in the Flesh of Christ as a Matter of no Necessity to them as to Redemption Reconciliation and Justification Reckoning to Accomplish this in their own Bodies Each for himself thro' Obedience to the Law or Light in his Conscience which Light they call Christ Redeemer and only Saviour without Respect to the true Christ and our only Saviour Jesus Christ of Nazareth and Redemption already wrought and Accomplished for Vs in His Crucifi'd Body Thus Plainly do's R. G. Express himself Giving full Testimony to Christ within Dwelling in our Hearts by Faith But Disputes only against that Quaker Heresie of Placing the Sacrifice and Atonement for Sin in the offering up of this Light within Perform'd in their Hearts and throwing off the Sacrifice and Atonement made by the offering which Christ made of Himself for Us upon the Cross as of no Efficacy to our Salvation This is it for which the Quakers so violently oppose him and which G. W. here calls Corrupt Dectrin And observe That in the 12 Art above Quoted R. G's words are Recited Imperfect for after the last words here put down viz. without the help of any thing to be wrought in us ther follows in R. G's words p. 20. so as to Atone with God for Vs which Explains his Meaning and is most Orthodox viz. That nothing Perform'd In us is the Atonement or Satisfaction for our Sins But this in no ways Hinders or Denies the Necessity of the Inward Presence and Operations of his H. Spirit to Sanctifie our Hearts whereby only that Atonement Perform'd by Christ in His own Body without Vs is Apply'd and Made Effectual to Us. Which R. G. over and over again not only Asserts but Zealously Contends for it Now let the Reader Judge whether G. W. has found an Instance in R. G. of one who Asserted That Christ's outward Appearance and Sufferings wou'd save any without His Appearance and Work in them The doing Right to R. G. is not the Matter I shou'd not have Detain'd the Reader so long meerly for that But by this it is very Evident That the Quakers have all along oppos'd the Christian Doctrin and Rejected all Faith in our Lord Jesus of Nazareth as to our Redemption or Salvation by His Death and Sacrifice of our Sins upon the Cross Why
Sn. which he pretends to Answer This he must own Unless he can Produce Vouchers for their making Publick Confession of their Sins and Asking Pardon for them But since he himself the Eldest Preacher now among them cannot Vouch it I think we may Despair of any other If ther needed further Vouchers I cou'd Produce Many even as Many of their Hearers as will speak the Truth But I will give one Remarkable one which will shew that it is not Forgetfulness in them but against their Principle Mr. Thomas Crispe was of their Communion about 30 years a Constant Hearer and a Zealous Sufferer too among them But he took offence at their never having any Confession of Sin or Prayer for the Remission of it in their Publick Meetings and complain'd of it above 20 years ago But no Rectification No not at this Day when they are putting a new Face upon all their Matters But they will not be brought to this to Confess themselves Sinners for then they might be brought to Repentance of which they Declare themselves Incapable For this among other vile Heresies Mr. Crispe has seperated from them of which he has given us a very Good Account in Several Treaties he has wrote against the Quakers They who were of them must know them best Let me give another Authority of Daniel Leeds before mention'd in his News of a Trumpet Sounding in the wilderness c. p. 138 139. he Charges them in these words You do never in your Meetings Pray for Pardon or Forgiveness of Sin not that I have heard in Twenty years Due Attendance for seeing it is Christ in you that Prays ther is no need of it He being without Sin Secondly You do not Pray to Christ because it being Christ in you that Prays it is Absur'd for Christ to Pray to Himself Thus you see their Practice is Uniform all the world over yet not Consistent with it self For Rich. Hubberthorn p. 20. of his works Collected and Reprinted An. 1663. Repeating this Assertion of R. Sherlock his Opponent viz. Christ Himself was not Capable of Faith and Repentance Answers Here I Charge thee to be a Lyar and a Slanderer for He was Capable of Faith and Repentance Now How Christ Himself was Capable of Repentance who never did Sin And yet the Quakers to be above Repentance is left for them to Explain Fran. Bugg in his Picture of Quakerism Printed 1697. says p. 64. That he had been more than 25 years among the Quakers and a Principal-Member Yet never had heard any such thing among them Moreover that he had Read the Chief of their Books of which he there sets down a Catalogue and tho' ther are some Prayers in them yet nothing like Confession of Sin or Begging for Pardon of Sin is to be found in any of their Writings and he Provokes them to shew any Quotation of this sort out of all their Books He names p. 68. a Book of George Whitehead's call'd Judgment Fixed Printed 1682 where ther is a Long Prayer of near 5 pages beginning at p. 354. fill'd with nothing but Pharisaical Boast's of his own Perfections and Appeals to God with Imprecations and Reproches upon his Adversaries But not one sylable either of Confession of Sin or Asking Mercy for it I wou'd not take Bugg's word tho' I had no cause to doubt it lest G. W. shou'd Reproach me with trusting to his Authority But I procur'd this Book of G. W's and have it now before me with his Long Appeal and Supplication as he himself call's it which contains Prayers not so like Petitions As Overtures and Propositions And now upon the whole Matter after all the Wriggling and Dodging that G. W. or any of the Quakers can use it must be Known to all the World and without Contradiction what sort of Christians these Quakers are viz. such as cannot make use of The Lord's Prayer unless as one of their Preachers C. H. who taking occasion to Repeat it in one of his own Prayers perhaps on Purpose left out the Petition for Forgiveness of our Trespasses as Useless forsooth to the Quakers It was not made for them Nor they for it Unless they can have Liberty to Mend it as they have done to the Creed and the Decalogue All of which Articles and Commands they have Reduc'd to One viz. Hearken to your Light within For this with them is the only Rule for all Matters both of Faith and Practice But to see the Artifice and snare of the Devil in which these men are Caught They who are too Good for The Lord's Prayer have Coppy'd exactly after the Prayer of the Pharisee Luk. xviii 11. George Whitehead's seems to be taken word for word out of it only Enlarges it and far Exceeds that Pharisee in High Pride and valuing of His own Worthiness The Pharisee only Thanked God That he was not as other men are Extortioners Vnjust Adulterers that he Fasted and Gave Tythes of All That he did Possess These all were Duties Incumbent upon all and the Neglect of which had been a Sin in any But that is nothing to George Whitehead's Rant Being Free from Sin that is the Prerogative of every Quaker That was a Poor Matter for the Top-Apostle He tells God in this Prayer of his Extraordinary Gifts for which he is so Civil as to thank Him for his Christian Spirit his Faith and not only Patience but Rejoycing under all his Sufferings for his Righteous Judgment and for his Vnderstanding too he wou'd not thank God for Nothing and for his Zeal which was Most of All And that Thou hast Raised me up Says he to God in Defence of thy Gospel to vindicate thy Truth c. Thou knowest Says he the Integrety of my Soul before Thee and that I have not sought to Exalt my Self nor any Popularity Party or Interest to my Self but only thy Glory and the Good of Souls Thou knowest that in the first Place my Soul hath sought for Peace Thou knowest that thou hast Endued me with a Christian Spirit and with Faith Patience c. Thou hast also Endued me with the Spirit of Righteous Judgment Vnderstanding c. O my God! as I have Eyed Thee so I Recommend to Thee to Plead and Justifie My Cause c. we say one Good turn Deserves another Was ther ever such High Arrogance and Setting forth his own Excellencies in the Presence of God And to His very Face Before whom the Holy Job said Job xlii 6. I Abhor my Self and Repent in Dust and Ashes But he was an Vnderling to George Whitehead or the Meanest Quaker They do not Abhor but Vaunt themselves they scorn to Repent for they have nothing to Repent of They are Clean and Pure as God! who Chargeth his Angels with folly Job iv 18. xv 15. See before Sect. vii p. 87. and the Heavens are not Clean in His Sight But the Quakers Dare Reckon with Him when He Pleases and think they can
Quakers As a Christian Testimony and Heavenly Expression And to shew what Solid Instruction he had Learn'd among the Quakers it is told of him p. 5. and 6. That seeing some little Lyons of China upon the Chimney-piece he said Take away those Images for they are to be Trodden under foot And seeing another Piece of China which had several Hands he said Take away that Piece that is Covered for it hath Eyes and seeth not and Ears and Heareth not Then he took offence at a Pair of Guilded Tea-Pots And said you may take away the other things that are Guilded and wash it off And after they were taken away says the Relation He was at ease This is told to shew the Aversion of the Quakers to Idols and how Tender this Young-Man was upon that Head And this was Printed for the Instruction of those that come after To shew how Exactly this Precious Youth kept up to the Doctrin of their Great Master Fox who in his Iconoclastes makes it Heathenism and Idolatry to have the Likeness of any Creature Painted upon a Sign see Sn. Sect. xxi p. 299. And I suppose it is the same upon a Chimney-Piece See with what Froth and Chaff these Poor Quakers are Fed And Glory in at their Death And yet do not Believe themselves For if they did they wou'd not have the Likeness of Creatures Lyons Bulls c. Painted upon their Signs as is Common with them now in London Yea and China Birds Beasts and Men upon their Chimney-Pieces Guilt Tea-Pots too and moreover do Sell them for Gain and all the Rest that offended this Tender Youth upon his Death-Bed But not his Sins for Alas he had none he was one of the Perfect ones And his Example is set out to Encourage the Rest of the Quakers to follow it Now if you shou'd tell any Quaker who had the Likeness of some Creature Painted upon his Sign that he was an Idolater He wou'd take it very Ill and tell thee Thou art a Lyar a Satan c. If you shou'd Ask him again whether G. Fox was Acted by the Infallible Spirit when he call'd this Idolatry He wou'd Answer That G. Fox was above thy Shallow and Dark Mind That He was sent from God And Endowed with Power from on High And Taught the way of the Lord in Truth That thou wert one of those who made a Man an offender for a word He wou'd bid thee Read within And Hearken to The small still voice And such Banter nothing to the Purpose And then think that he had sufficiently Answer'd thee This is the Method they take to Reconcile Contradictions And no other will you get from them This brings me to another Topick they use in Answering Objections made against them 3. Bringing of Contrary Testimonies which is To bring Contrary Testimonies to those Objected without offering to solve those that are Objected not minding or Hoping the Reader wou'd not that this only Proves them Guilty of Contradictions which is one of the Great Objections made against them And indeed of this their Writings are so Fertile that hardly a Page can escape you wherein you will not find some of them For they are all Confusion and Contradictions This is the Method thro' all this Appendix which we are considering They bring Contrary Testimonies or so seeming to those which are Objected and think but they cannot so think that this has done the work and Clear'd their Cause 1. Thus Sect. vi In answer to their Contempt of Magistracy and Government their Manifold Treasons and Rebellions they bring Testimonys from p. 41. to p. 45. of their Acknowlegement to the Government And I cou'd have fill'd ten Pages more with the same for they made Submissions and Acknowledgments to all the Vsurpations and Governments that ever happen'd in their time as Each had the Fortune to get Vppermost And then they Beslav'd that which was Down which they had Worship'd before Of this Many Instances are given in the Sn. Sect. xviii To which not one word of Answer either in the Antidote or this Appendix But ther is an Answer which they have under their Thumb to some of the Passages there Produc'd which I must not Conceal tho' it shou'd fore-stall their Market because it will afford some Diversion to the Reader These Passages are in the Sect. above Quoted of the Sn. p. 222 223. out of a Book wrote by G. Fox which carries this Title Several Papers given forth by George Fox c. The Book I never saw yet will answer for the Quotations which notwithstanding I take not upon trust of any ones Memory or my own And can give them further Quotations out of that Particular Book which G. Fox Mark'd with his own Pen or Aule which he cou'd handle much better for I have seen of his Hand or Foot writing tho' not in that Book and it look'd rather like the Ingravings of a Sciver or the Scratches of an Aule than the Draughts of a Pen. Besides his Delicate Spelling of which I can Present the Reader with a Sampler out of that same Book Which shews how much he was oblig'd either to his Amanuensis or the Corrector of the Press that we had one Line right Spelt in all his Works tho' his Dictating has hardly afforded Us one Paragraph either of Sense or English The Book I Quote is in the Possession of the Friends where neither I nor any I can Employ can have Access I mention this as a Tryal for their Spirit of Discerning and will venture their Reproof for the Mis-Spelling but of a Word The above-Mention'd Quotations out of that Book are Bitter Invectives against the King Char. 2. to obstruct his Restoration and against All Kings and Kingly-Government It was Printed in the beginning of the year 1660 when things were coming on fast towards the Restauration But soon after when the King was Establish'd then it was time pursuant to their old wont to turn about and Tack with the wind Then G. Fox wrote Marginal-Notes upon one of these Books the same that I have mention'd to Reconcile those Treasons and Rebellions which were in it according to his Skill that is after the Manner of this Antidote and Appendix by giving a Contrary Testimony without Retracting the other In p. 5. ther are these words That the Christians were not to do any thing in the Name of an Earthly King And again The setting up of these Kings and Emperors and Protectors and giving them the Names of Excellency and Majesty amongst the Christians hath been since the Days of the Apostles amongst the Apostats in the Apostacy from the true Wisdom and Life Here he writes upon the Margin I give it you in his own spelling This was in the Days of Olefer Cromell who wou'd be King G. F. And the like upon the Margin of p. 8. where more of his Treasons were express'd This was the time when the was so besy of making Olefer Cromell King
And they Bow after the same Fashion Who wou'd speak Three words to Purchace their Ungainly Conges as Stiff and Grave as an Elephant's or to see them thrust out a Limb for a Salute as if they were going to make a Pass at you But ther is a Mystery at the Bottom of Iniquity and Rebellion All that was Couch'd under the Parallel that is made to them of Judas and his Gaulonites And we may the Rather Believe this because the Quakers in this Appen do in plain Terms Justifie Judas for having Repeated his Principle as given in Prim. Heres out of Josephus That he and his Followers wou'd Expose themselves to all Torments rather than call any Mortal Man Lord or Master Appen Answers p. 49. Now Believe me Friends I cannot See the Heresie of this Doctrin Here then the Charge is Confess'd And the Parallel Acknowleg'd to be Just betwixt Judas and the Quakers who own That they Maintain the same Principle with Him And who can Doubt but that it is to the same End They Quarrel Prim. Heres for bringing the Testimony of Josephus as they wou'd make the Reader believe instead of one of the Primitive Fathers which Appen p. 48. calls Canonizing this Jew Whereas Josephus is only Quoted to shew the Principles and Sect of Judas Galilaeus not for the Condemning of them That is shewn from the Apostles And what Canonizing is hear of Josephus Can the Reader bear with this Trifling But these men will Complain nay Boast if they are not Answer'd But whether is this so much a Canonizing of Josephus as Appen do's of Judas who Justifies his wicked Heresie And Consequently must Rank his Sufferings for it upon the score of Martyrdom as of the Quakers for the same Cause And is Every Primitive Father that is Quoted therefore Canoniz'd But what Patience can hold out to see these Quakers make objections for want of Primitive Fathers And to Quote them too as Gibson before and others Do they lay any stress upon the Primitive Fathers or Pretend to Follow Them O yes by all means They wou'd fain be in Good Company And they call Quakerism now of Late Primitive Christianity in which Book ther is not one Syllable of what the Primitive Fathers held not one Quotation from one of them nor any of them so much as Nam'd How then do's their Christianity appear to be Primitive No matter for that Primitive is a Good word especially to stand upon a Title-Page which 100 Read for one that Reads the Book This shews They wou'd be Primitive or have the Reputation of it And so they have As Primitive as Judas whose Doctrine they Espouse and the Apostles Oppos'd But if they are so much for Primitive what say they to those Quotations which are brought in Prim. Heres out of the most Ancient and Vn-doubted of the Fathers And which Confront their Tenets very Expresly For them They care not two pence for as many more of them Appen p. 10. 11. calls them Stale Tracts of Vncertain Persons Do's he shew how they are Vncertain No not he Let them look to that or have the Quakers any Better Editions or other Works of those Fathers than those which are come to our Hands No no no They have None of them they Hate and Abhor them they were a Company of Bishops and Doctors But ne'r a one among them like George Fox or Edw. Burrough or G. Whitehead or Little Appen No not one of them Therefore says Appen p. 10. We shall not need to be at all Afrighted if we do find our selves to Differ from what is to be found under the specious Names of Ignatius Polycarp c. tho' Living within 150 years after Christ nor under the Great Names of them call'd Fathers in the Succeeding Ages And p. 5. It will not Avail tho' he bring many Clouds of such Witnesses And notwithstanding he calls this a Cavil we learn'd from Elder Dissenters we are not Afraid to stand by it and therefore Pay little Reverence to those nor any thing not Purely Apostolical But Ignatius and Polycarp liv'd in the Apostles Days and were Disciples to the Apostles What is that to Us Quakers It is no matter what they were or where they were We will have None of them So set your heart at Rest We have Better at Home We never Lik'd G. Keith since he was so Insolent to Compare the Books of our Friends to them call'd the Greek and Latin Fathers as supposing Friends Books to have been written by no Better Guidance See Sat. Dis Sect. iv n. v. p. 47. nor Clearer Light than theirs who Lived and wrote in those Dark times For which Thom. Ellwood has Pay'd him to Purpose And it is no wonder that he has left Us. For when any once get Fathers and Councils and Antiquity and such stuff into their Heads they can never Endure Us afterwards Therefore we Hate all Schools and Colleges and Learning and Human Reason for all these things make against Us. And now that we are Setting up Schools c. of our own I 'm afraid we shall not be Long-Liv'd That by the bye Therefore Appen wisely throws off all your Fathers and Primitives which serve us only for Title-Pages But says p. 5. Indeed if he can Absolutely Determin the Question by the Scriptures the work is done Yet in the Last Case against Judas and the Quakers the Proof was brought from Scripture and from nothing else And yet the work is not done For then you call'd for the Fathers then he has not Perform'd his Promise of Giving us Quotations out of the Fathers but puts Josephus upon us and Canonizes him for a Father But will the Scriptures do Then indeed the work wou'd soon be done Will you let the Scriptures be the Rule we will Ask no more Appen Denies it as shewn before Yet they will stand to what the Scripture Commands Provided the same thing be Requir'd by Their Own Spirit Anew See Sn. Sect. vii p. 92 93. that is if they Like it They cannot Deny but that the Scripture Requires Honour to be Pay'd to Magistrates Or that Taking off the Hat is not a Paying of Honour as Prov'd above And therefore Except the Reason I have Given which they will not Give I cannot Conjecture the shadow of a Reason for their Refusing it They say as Howgil before That God has not Commanded it Not Particularly as to the Hat Neither has He Commanded to take off our Hats at Prayer Why then did they Contend so zealously for that They Render themselves Self-Condemn'd They will as Judas call no man Lord or Master Why then do they call any Man Father for both are Forbidden in the same Place Matth. xxiii 9. And in whatever Sense they take the one they may take the other But their Practice shews their meaning They do call their Quaker Masters by the Name of Masters And they do now use the word Lord Speaking of or to Noble-Men but
and Faith that is in us to every sober Enquirer and indeed are glad of an opportunity to satisfie any such Person who may be in doubt of the soundness of our Faith in the saving Fundamentals of the Christian Religion we have with the full and Unanimous Consent of this our said Yearly or General Meeting given a plain positive and we hope Christian Answer to each of the said Queries which that they may give thee full and ample satisfaction of our soundness in the Christian Faith in the sincere desire of Us who in behalf and by appointment of the said Meeting do subscribe and remain They Loving Friends Rich. Dungworth John Hampton Thomas Martin Geo. Hutcheson John Hart Thomas Budd Here follows Dr. Lancaster's Queries with the above-named Meetings Answer to each Query To the Quakers assembled in their Yearly Meeting at London this Whitson Week 1695. GReat objections have been made against you in many Books which of late Years have been writ as well by those who have departed from your Communion as by others But because we would not willingly take an Account of you only from your Adversaries no nor yet the advantage which may be had from some of your own Apologists we have chosen this solemn Time of your most general Assembly that you have in the World where there comes of your Number out of all parts where any of your Profession live even as far as from the West Indies on purpose to attend this your Yearly Meeting at London We have chosen this most solemn and convenient time for you to vindicate and clear your selves and to give satisfaction to the World particularly to the Church of England as to these great and grievous objections which are made against you It is said of you that as Hymeneus and Philetus 2 Tim. 2.18 did construe the Resurrection spiritually saying It was perform'd inwardly within our Souls and so avoided the litteral and outward Resurrection of the Body which the Scripture calls Overthrowing the Faith so that you do construe the Resurrection in the same spiritual manner to be the rising again of Christ or the Light in our hearts and consequently that the Saints generally have attained the Resurrection already and that ther will be no Resurrection of these our Bodies after they lie down in the Dust And not only this but That you construe likewise those Scriptures which testify of our Lord Jesus Christ in this Allegorical manner to mean no more than what you call the Light within and That this Christ or Light is Born and Crucified Dyes is Buried Rises again Ascends and is Glorified within you That it sheds its Bloods within you and thereby quenches the Wrath of God in you as your Sacrifice or Propitiation And that Christ has now no other Blood or Body than what he has within his Saints or other than he had with his Father before the World began That the outward Blood of that Man Jesus that was shed at Jerusalem was not the Propitiation or any Satisfaction to the Justice of God for our sins but only the spiritual Blood shed inwardly within us And by these means when you are asked Whether you believe in Christ that Dyed for our sins Rose again and Ascended and that by his Blood we are saved c. You can readily answer Yea That you believe all this and yet mean it all in an inward Allegorical sense that is The Blood shed within you The Light or Christ suffering within you c. and thereby deceive others and your selves and keep your meaning hid and double that the Truth of what you hold may not be known which if in plain words told and asserted would grate all Christian Ears and shew you to be those miserable Hereticks before told who brought in damnable Doctrines denying the Lord who bought them Therefore that you may clear your selves from this great and grievous Charge you are desired to give a plain positive and direct Answer to these following Queries Your Reasons or Explanations are not required this not being intended for a Dispute but only your plain Yea or Nay to each of these Queries that your Doctrine and Faith may be known Query 1. Do you believe in a Christ without you now in Heaven The Christian Quaker answers Yea. Qu. 2. Hath he now in Heaven the same Body tho' changed in Qualities and Glorify'd which he assumed in the Womb of the blessed Virgin in which he Suffered Dyed was Buryed Rose again and Ascended outwardly Ch. Qu. answ Yea. Qu. 3. Will he return in that same Body outwardly or without men to judge the World in the last day Ch. Qu. answ Yea. Qu. 4. Will our dead Bodies arise the same Bodies though altered in Properties and Qualities which we now have and shall lay down in the Dust Or do you believe an outward and litteral Resurrection contrary to Hymeneus and Philerus Do you believe that the Saints generally have already attained the Resurrectien either before or since Christ came into the World Ch. Qu. To the former part of this Query we answer Yea To the latter Nay Qu. 5. Do you believe that Christ or the Eternal Word was so made Flesh as that he truly and really became Man as truly Man as he was God and not only as the Socinians say that he dwelt in or did inhabit the Person of that Man Jesus Christ as a Garment or a Vail as he dwells in or inspires other holy Persons though not in so high a Degree or as Angels assume Bodies like men wherein they appear without taking them into their own Nature or thereby becoming Men Ch. Qu. answ Yea. Qu. 6. Is Christ now at this day and for ever to come truly and really a Man in true and proper humane Nature without all other men Ch. Qu. To this we answer Yea under the Qualifications contained in the second Query viz. changed in Qualities and Glorify'd Qu. 7. And lastlv Was his outward Blood outwardly shed at Jerusalem the true Propitiation and Satisfaction for our sins Is this the true saving Faith Was not his outward Blood that Blood without sheding of which there could be no Attonement Heb. 9.22 Ch. Qu. Answer Yea not excluding the work of the Spirit of Christ in our hearts The above Queries were signed by Dr. Lancaster Chaplain to the Lord Bishop of London and delivered Fryday the 17th of May. 1695. into George Whitehead's own hands in their general Assembly in Grace-Church-street and there publickly read They were desired to return their Answer to Dr. Lancanster at Mr. Wiseman's House a Chyrurgion in Long-Acre But we hear of no Answer that they returned Wherefore the said Queries were presented to the Yearly Meeting of the Quakers in Philadelphia That Party which have Excommunicated Mr. Keith returned Answer as set down in the Preface But that Party which joyn with Mr. Keith presently returned the Answers above inserted after each Query THis is Verbatim what was Printed at Philadelphia
to John Draper by H. Norton p. 84. of Ms WHether Christ Jesus suffered not upon that Cross which he Preached when he was in the Body and said He that will be my Disciple must take take up his Cross Daily Luk. 9.23 Or what Cross he suffered on And how oft he hath suffer'd since the beginning See Second Part. p. 114. Ms p. 81. Wherein thou asketh me what do I understand by the Eternal Judgment Or whether ther shall be a time when God shall Judge all Men and make their works manifest and also give to every Man according to his Deeds Ans The Eternal Judge is upon his Throne and the time of his Judgment is come and the Hearts of all Men are made manifest before him And the wicked shall not Escape but shall Receive a Portion according to their Deeds Therefore say I arise ye Dead and come to Judgment for the Hour is Coming and now is when the Dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God and they that hear shall Live Joh. 5.25 N. B. This shews in what sense they Vnderstand the Scriptures viz. That the Resurrection of the Dead and the Final Judgment is already Come as before Quoted which they bid us Mark That the End of the World was Come in the Apostles time which they Infer from 1 Cor. 10.11 Ms p. 57. in a Letter to Lieut. Scot. NEver hereafter suffer such words to proceed out of thy Mouth as to say that the Glorious God was in a Wall because thy Dark Wisdom finds it Written that He fills Heaven and Earth But this I say unto thee That that Heaven and that Earth which he fills thou knowest not neither can any Vulturous Eye see into it H. Norton N. B. The Quaker Means the Inward Heaven in the Heart which he says no Vulturous Eye can see into And they Acknowledge no other Heaven or Hell See First Part. p. 62. Snake p. 164. And Sat. Dis p. 55. For the Outward Heaven the Quaker Eyes can no more see into than those Eyes which they call Vulturous I will close my present Excerptions out of this Precious Ms with an Account which this Norton and one Will. Shaw gave of their Examination before John Bret Governor of Wexford in Ireland p. 86. of the Ms Governor Are you the Men Quakers Yea. Gov. Why did you Disturb the Minister yesterday Hum. Norton Examine the business to the bottom we were forc't out of our Meeting and brought to the Steeple-house And if there was any wrong done we had it Gov. By whom Hum. By a Lieutenant Gov. But not to disturb the Minister Humb. A Minister of Christ cannot be disturb'd neither is it contrary to the order of the Church of Christ for all to speak one by one Gov. But you have transgrest the Law in disturbing our Minister Hum. What 's your Law contrary to the Law of God Gov. Nay Hum. He is no Minister of Christ neither have we transgressed any Law of God Gov. Why is he not a Minister of Christ Hum. He was found in the Idols Temple having the chief seat in the assembly standing Praying in the Synagogue Gov. You all say so Hum. Send for him hither let us speak with him Gov. I have no command of him but I shall axamine the Lieutenant and if he have transgrest let him suffer Hum. Be not partial but let it be before us Gov. Take these men into your charge Gaoler Hum. Well mind the fear of God This was the effect of what was spoken so near as can be remembred Hum. Norton Will. Shaw The Recommendation of the above named Humphrey Norton by E. Bourrough and Francis Howgil when he went to Ireland and Answered and put the above Queries NOw dear Friends I rejoyce in the Lord that his care is towards you and his love abids for you who are unto him begotten and not of him forgotten in visiting you with his power to the refreshing of you in sending this my dear Brother and faithful companion in the Kingdom of Jesus call'd Humphry Norton who cometh to you in the name and fear of the Lord and not of his own will but according to the will of God as being moved thereunto by the spirit of the Father And unto you all I do him recommend as a faithful Labourer to be received by you in the name of him that sends him in tender pitty for you all and the blessing of the Lord upon his Faithfulness I doubt not But the flock will receive refreshment the weak will be strengthened the weary laden will be comforted and the body will be edified and for this cause hath the Lord chosen him into this service to manifest further unto you the power of the Gospel of God by his Ministry upon which the blessing of the Lord be for ever And with my dear Love in the Lord saluting you all that are faithful farewel in the Lord. London 10th of 3d. Month 56. to the Churches in Christ in Ireland by a lover of your Souls and a Labourer in the Gospel of Jesus Christ E. B. Receive Hum. Norton in the Lord whom the Lord hath moved to come unto you who is a brother and faithful in the Lords work and be subject unto him in the Lord all unto him for I much desired that he might come unto you and so the Lord hath orderd it And as you receive him you receive me Francis Howgill Some Few of the Many OMISSIONS and ALTERATIONS in the Re-printing of the Works of the Deceased QVAKERS tho' said to have been given forth by the SPIRIT of the ETERNAL GOD to Trim with every Turn of Government And Cover the Deceit of their Horrid Principles 1. EDWARD BVRROVGH the Second in Honour to the Great FOX among the Apostles of the Quakers Printed a Book An. 1656. to which he gave this Title A TRVMPET OF THE LORD Sounded out of Sion Which gives a Certain Sound in the Ears of All Nations And is a True Noise of a fearful Earth-Quake at hand which shall shake the whole Fabrick of the Earth and the Pillars of its standing shall Fall and never more be set up again Or Fearful Voices of Terrible Thunders uttered forth from the Throne And is an Alarum and Preperation for War against all Nations where Gog and Magog resideth And sheweth the Wounding Sword of the Mighty God from whose Blow the Kings nor the Captains nor the mighty Men cannot Fly to Escape Declared and Written by a Son of Thunder In an unknown Language which none can Vnderstand save the Redeemed of the Lord. By one whose Name is truly known by the Children of the same Birth but unknown to the World though it be called EDWARD BVRROVGH Ther is more than here set down in that Magnificient Title-Page But I would shew the Reader thus much to let him see the no ordinary Stile of the Quakers In this Book p. 9. Ther is a Chapter against the King and his Cause then under the
them in England in the year 1657. will not Amount to near that Sum. Well then having bethought himself he after this in p. 25. Inflames the Reckoning thus Considering all things it can come to no less their Funeral Sermons their Great Tythes and Small Tythes and Marriages and Sprinkling of Infants and Churching of Women with other such Penuries claimed by the Priests in the Re-print it is changed into the Church of England with what is given to them out of the Nations Treasure which is many Hundreds of pounds a year Here he confounds the times of the Dissenters and of the Church of England For the Dissenters did not use the Churching of Women in 1657. And the Clergy now have not Stipends or Annuities out of the Treasury as some of the Dissenters had But put all these together it will not come near 150000 pounds Therefore his Editors have endeavour'd to help him out by Adding to what is before Quoted thus Also considering how much a year is spent at 2 or 3 Colleges in this Nation c. as to bringing up some to Attain to the Ministry with abundance of such Charges consumed the Nations Treasure which is wasted as in Relation to this Ministry spoken of I do not speak against Good Education and Learning which is in its Place a vertue as for Travellers and many others neither do I account such Money wasted But only as to the Ministry of Christ or Inable them thereunto but that Money which is spent is Wasted And how much is spent for such an end only wise Men Judge which will make up a long Sum in the whole All this is Inserted in the Re-print And yet do's not help this Lame-Dog over the Stile They may as well Reckon the Charge of Nursing any Child his Parents design for the Ministry if he should Prove fit for it for on that Condition it is that they send their Children to Schools or Colleges in order to Qualify them for the Ministry And to Reckon this a spending the Treasure of the Nation to Swell the Account To call the Charges of Education which comes out of Private Pockets a Burden upon the Nation is as Ridiculous as it is over and above Malicious to Account this among the Expences which the Clergy put the People to And this must go in to make up Will. Penn's Reckoning who in his Guide Mistaken p. 18. Ann. 1668. gives the same Account of the Revenues of the Clergy then whom he calls Idle Gormondizing Priests of England who Run away with above 150000 pounds a year c. as be fore Quoted 2 P. p. 34. He comes up last of all with the same Bill Alt a Mall But this is not the subject I am upon I am now shewing how the Quakers deal with their Dead Prophets in the Re-printing of their Works And the Instances Increase so fast upon me that I will shorten my Labour for the present because it wou'd make a Volume by it self to go through with them And a larger Collection is Ready if it be thought serviceable In the mean time the Reader will I suppose be easily Persuaded from the Tast that is here given out of two or three of their Small Pamphlets wrote by E. Burrough that their is not one of their Books which they have Reprinted of their Deceased Friends that is given to us Truly as they were first Printed Tho' God knows they have left enough behind to make them the Greatest Monsters that this or Perhaps any other Age has Produc'd Ther are are several Instances scatter'd in the Sn. of this their Mutilating Adding and Altering the Testimonies of their Ancient Friends to serve New Turns as p. 216 217 218. you will see some Instances in the New Edition of of Howgil's Works But especially p. 212. ther is a Passage Greatly to be notic'd of their Concealing and Leaving out in the New Edition a most Material Bloody and Threatning Clause in a Declaration they Publish'd An. 1659. wherein they Assert their Right even to the Fighting with Carnal weapons and Killing of Mens Persons to Establish their Heirship to Possess the Vttermost parts of the Earth And that they do Expect the Time to come tho' they say it is not YET come This is in p. 8. and 9. of the said Declaration and left out in the New Edition of Edw. Burrough's Works p. 603. This is put among his Works because he was the Pen-man And the Declaration ends p. 14. with these words The substance of this was given forth the Twentieth day of this Tenth Month being moved of the Lord by His Spirit thereunto through E. Burrough and is now Judged Meet to be Published to the Nation in behalf of Vs and our Friends under our Hands GER ROBERTS THO. HARTE GILB LATYE JOH AND ERTON J. OSGOOD and others of them to the Number of Fifteen all whose Names are subscrib'd But the Names are left out in the New Edition together with these last words viz. And is now Judged Meet to be Published to the Nation in behalf of Vs and our Friends under our Hands It was then Meet in December 1659. when Tumults in London the Rump Re-admitted and an Abjuration of K. Char. II. and the whole Line of K. James when ther was no settl'd Government in the Nation but all things in that Confusion that it seem'd a fit Time for the Quakers to strick in and Assert their Vniversal Heirship But in 1672 when the King was happily Re-Established and the Kingdom Strengthned in his Hand then this was to be kept Close till some other fit Occasion should Offer The Disclosing of it then wou'd have given the Government a Just Jealousie of them Therefore it was stifl'd at that time in the New Edition of E. B's Works And instead thereof the Quakers Printed Declarations full of Loyalty and Affection to the King and Renouncing the Principle of taking to the Carnal Sword upon any Pretence whatsoever as shewn in Sn. p. 224. 227. and 229. In the Re-Print of the said Declaration ther are several other things Left out and Alter'd according to the Times as in p. 4. 7. 12. c. the words Kings and Tyrants are left out in their Railings And other such like Amendments The 15 Instances which are before related of the Quakers new Coyning Adding to and Diminishing from the Works of their Ancient Friends are all taken out of two or three small Pamphlets only of Edw. Burrough which came to my hands Judge then what a Volume it wou'd make if we had the First Editions of that Great Folio of his Works which is Re-Printed to Compare all the Alterations they have made in them And so in the Many and Large Volumes of the Works of their other Prophets which they have Re-Printed Of which I will give but an Instance in two or three and so Leave them for this time 1. In Sn. p. 113. ther is a Notorious Instance of this Forgery of the Quakers in the
Journal of G. Fox I will add one more here In a Book of his and other Quakers call'd The West answering to the North. Printed An. 1657. p. 16. ther is a Long Letter to Chief Justice Glynn which begins thus Friend we are Free-Men of England Free-born our Rights and Liberties in and with our Countries with the Laws the Defence of them have we in the Late Wars Vindicated in the Field with our Blood Which in the Journal is Alter'd thus Friend We are Free-Men of England Free-born Our Rights and Liberties are according to Law and ought to be Defended by it Leaving out that Ugly Passage The Defence of them have we in the Late Wars Vindicated in the Field with our Blood For this they have now a Mind shou'd be Forgotten Both as to their Pretended Principle against Fighting And also their Siding with the then Vsurpations against the King Whereas they say in p. 14. of their Declaration just now Mentioned We have been Silent and not Medling with this Party or the other but by way of Reproof of evil in All and Informing all to the Good And it cannot be Charged upon us that we have sided with One or other But in the 9th Instance before Mentioned they made their Braggs That they had served with their Lives and Estates as Faithfully as the Protector Oliver himself and his Council to the Purchasing that Peace and Freedom An. 1657. out of the Hands of TYRANTS i. e. of K. Char. I. and II. Of their Siding and Medling to Purpose against the King with all the Vsurpations in their time see sufficient Testimonies in Sn. § xviii And which in their new Switch they do not Deny nor Justify themselves any otherwise than by Endeavouring to cast as Black Aspersions upon the King himself Char. II. And of their Silence you may Judge by that Paper which they have stifl'd of Ed. Burrough's which I have Printed in the 1st of the 15 Instances besides many others that can be Produc'd wherein they Damn the King and Caviliers to the Pit of Hell See Sn. p. 216. and p. 228. of their Giving Intelligence against Sir George Booth and other Royalists who Rose for the King And Commanding in the Name of the Lord to put such of them to Death as they had taken Prisoners And to stand out to the Uttermost against the King and think of No Reconciliation with him 2. In the year 1659. One of the Quakers Great Apostles Richard Hubberthorn wrote an Answer to A Declaration of the Ana-Baptists in London wherein they Owned it as their Principle That they were Willing to Live peaceably Vnder whatever Government is or shall be Established in the Nation This the Quakers then did violently Oppose as a Poor Time-serving and Pernicious Principle tho' of Late they Pretend That it is their own Principle and that they do Now Govern themselves by it And Promise so to do But then they fell upon the Ana-Baptists and said This is far below that Spirit which was once in some of you in that Profession for you told of having the Laws regulated according to the Scriptures And of having Judges as at the first and Councellors as at the beginning And then not to submit to what Government soever but that which is according to Equity and Justice And what do you bear Arms and Fight for if not for a Government according to Truth and that Righteousness may Establish the Nation Some have Judged this to be the very Design and End of the War and Controversy against many that were called Governors and Magistrates and were by some called the Ordinance of God and the Higher Power And if now you Resolve to live Peaceably and submit to whatever Government shall be Established then your Fighting is at an End And if Charles Stuart shall come in and Establish Popery and Govern by Tyranny you have begged Pardon by Promising to live Peaceably under it as the Ordinance of God c. But this smelling so Rank in the Re-Printing of Hubberthorn's Works An. 1663. they leave out the words Charles Stuart And instead of that they put it thus And if any Shall Come in and Establish Popery c. That Principle for the Breach of which they Charge the Ana-Baptists was not Peculiar to the Ana-Baptists nor any thing wherein they Differ'd from the Quakers for it is mostly in the Quakers own words But it was the Joint Principle of all these several sorts of Rebels and is and ever will be the Pretence of all Rebels to Reforme and Change for the Better And to this that Principle of Submitting to whatever Government is Established is most Adverse And for which the Quakers did at that time Upbraid this Pretence of the Ana-Baptists As sincere perhaps in the Ana-Baptists then as it is in the Quakers now For the Quakers Principle of Obedience to the Higher Powers And what they mean by the Higher Power I Refer backward to 2. P. p. 172 173. c. 3. Humphrey Smith a Notable Quaker Printed a Book An. 1658. Intitul'd The True and Everlasting Rule from God Published from the Spirit of Truth Where p. 48. he says Where are Queen Mary 's Judges and Bloody Persecutors Where are King Charles 's Nobles and his Vn-Merciful Tyrants who sought to Drive down all by their Devilish Power who were as High in Tyranny as any of you Where are your Cardinals Jesuits and Monks Where are your Bishops Arch-Bishops Deans and Deacons your Abbots Nunnerys and Bishopricks Altars Crosses Surplices and Common-Prayer-Books your Rails about your Tables Organs Quiresters and Singing-Boys Even as your Eyes have seen the Overturning of all these so shall the Off-Spring and Residue follow after and the Priests Howle c. But in the Re-Printing of this Man's Works after the Restoration All that concerning King Charles his Nobles Tyranny c. And all concering the Church of England then Established of Bishops Deans Common-Prayer Surplices Organs c. are left quite out Tho' said to be Publish'd from the Spirit of Truth But the Spirit of Convenience and Worldly Politicks has Prevail'd I have given but one Instance a piece in the Re-Printed Works of Fox Hubberthorn and Smith because I wou'd keep within Limits this having swell'd so much already And if I shou'd go thro' all it wou'd take up more Paper than all that I have Written But we wou'd Desire them more Particularly to Produce two Tracts they have taken care to stifle one is a Piece of Parnell's call'd Satan's Designs mention'd 2 P. p. 106. The other of Lawson's mention'd ibid. p. 108. And now the Reason appears Plain Why the Quakers are so Diligent in keeping up the First Editions of their Friends Books That none might be seen but as they have New-Drest and Vaumpt them Their Book-sellers have Refus'd to Sell them or so much as Shew them to several that I have Employ'd Particularly W. Penn's Sandy Foundation And where one I sent had found Six of