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A79520 An answer to a book which Samuel Eaton put up to the Parliament: which he saith he is a teacher of the Church of Christ, heretofore meeting at Ducken-field, now at Stockport in Cheshire; and he cals the title of his book Quakers confuted. Moses who was a judg quaked and trembled, David a king in Israel quaked and trembled, and Solomon who was a king trembled, and Daniel a servant of the most high God trembled, ... And these heard the voice of God, and thou that writest, thou mayest say thou hast confuted all them; for he that is against them, is against us, and he that is against us, is against them, for the same power is witnessed; but thou Eaton, who saith thou art a teacher of the church at Duckenfield, who saith thou hast heard the voice of the living God, and that such a voice as this, as comes immediately from God, you have not heard, ... And Isaiah saith, hear the word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his word; and this is the man that I do regard, saith the Lord, that is of a contrite heart, and trembleth at my word; but such Eaton and his church doth not regard, but custs out friends of the Lord from them, whom the world calls Quakers. Camm, John, 1604?-1656. 1654 (1654) Wing C389; Thomason E735_9; ESTC R206969 38,921 53

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thy mouth and blush and be ashamed for thy lyes thou mayest be set up with the world which lyeth in wickedness but from God thou lyar art turned and must into the lake that burns And something in answer to the story or tale which thou tells to the Christian Reader and many reports respecting a people called Quakers concerning sorcery and witchcraft being among them Object And thou sayest Thou metst with a man a Teacher to a people about half a mile from Nottingam and thou asked him whether he did conceive that there was sorcery among them and he said Yea that there was sorcery among them Reply The chief Priests such as you did ever judge the Power of Christ to be of the Dev l for it did ever overturn your Kingdom O vain man here thou hast printed forth what he did conc●ive and in your mind of conceiving lodgeth the spirit of sorcery and that which carries sorcery hearing and telling of new things as the Athens did who shews thy self ignorant of the holy men of God who were in trances tremblings and quakings Object And as thou speakest of a young man which came twice or thrice to their meetings Reply Was he come to the trembling of Devils and dost thou and he blaspheme that power which made him to tremble and this story thou gives to the Reader that all may see thy folly which story th●u receivedst from the Min ster as thou calls them Object And thou sayest thou thoughtest to have nothing to do with that generation of men Rep. Didst thou not utter forth thy lyes and slanders in a paper And dost not thou utter forth thy lyes now and so for the Truths sake are we moved to write against thy lyes which thou hast printed in this paper Ob. And whereas thou tel'st the Parliament and Reader of another story of a man and his Wife and art troubled because he titled the Ministers under the name of the Priests of the world and Teachers of the world Are you not such which say you have not heard a voice speak from Heaven neither do you look for it that such a voice as this that comes immediately from God you have not heard nor such an inspiration as this you do not wait for Rep. And here thou hast cleared thy self for being any Minister of God and from having the Spirit of Inspiration and here thou art a Teacher of the world which teacheth deceit which denies perfection Ob. And thou art tormented because the said Richard Waller affirmed that he had his Teacher within him Rep. And doth not the Scriptures witness the same Ye need not that any man teach you but as the anoynting which is within And doth not the Prophet exhort them to cease from man and wouldest thou teach them to follow man And doth not the Apostle bid them to take heed of the light within them unt l the day dawn and the Day-star arise in their hearts Here dost not thou clear thy self from the Spirit of the Prophets and Christ and the Apostles and cannot indure the Doctrine of Christ the Prophets and the Apostles which is the sound Doctrine Samuel Eaton And the answer to the paper which thou accused the Quakers of thou shalt find to be true though thou canst not own it with thy sottish and sensual mind Ob. And thou say'st the Saints and the world may know what a people we are Rep. Here thou put'st the Saints and the world both together the world knows us not but who are Saints witness us Ob. And thou sayest What little hope there is of any good to be wrought of any of them what a people these are Rep. Thy teachings we deny and thy discoursing upon the Scriptures with corrupt mind we deny but the Scriptures we own they are ours and so such busie minds who are giving senses and meanings to the Scriptures we deny for they are of no private interpretation Ob. And thou sayest they pretend to speak and act all by the Spirit and if any one will try their Spirit that they speak by their reply is That th y can neither witness Scripture nor Spirit Rep. But what Scripture canst thou witness who denies the immediate Voice from God and immediate Inspiration And thou sayest they encrease in number continually and this torments thee and now thou comest to prophecy Ob. The time will come they shall proceed no further but this is the false Prophet The time is come that thou shalt proceed no further for thy folly is made manifest already which is to the glory of God renting thy Kingdom and setting up his own Kingdom so that the power and effectual working of God which turns the mind of so many unto himself from the world by his Spirit and to the uniting their hearts together from the worlds Forms Sects and Opinions And thou who denies the immediate Inspiration and immediate Voice from God which thou hast put up to the Magistrate but God will dash all the earthly Bonds asunder with his immediate power and eternal Spirit who denies the immediate voice who lives in Errour and Heresie as thou hast made it manifest And this is in answer to the stories thou gav'st to the Parliament and to the Christian Reader Samuel Eaton now something in Replication to thy answers of the Queries Que. FRiend the first Query which was put to thee was Whether thou hadst the eternal Spirit which gave forth the Scriptures yea or no Object And in thy answer thou believes that the Spirit of Christ dwells in Saints yet thou asserts the Spirit of Christ to be distinct from the Saints and the Saints from the Spirit Rep. Here thou hast cleered thy self from the eternal Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures The Query was put to thee Whether thou hadst the eternal Spirit who saith The Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints Let all people see if thy Spirit be not distinct from the Saints and a lying Spirit to say the Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints when the Spirit that gave forth the Scriputre saith which was in the Saints they were led by the Spirit and they had received the Spirit and Christ said the Spirit of the Father spoke in them and the Apostle said If you have not the same Spirit as raised up Christ you are none of his Obj. And thou sayest The Spirit of Christ is distinct from the Saints Rep. And the Ministers of God said they were in the Spirit and here openly thou shew'st thy self to be rambling up and down with thy own Spirit and not guided by the Spirit of Jesus but by the Spirit of Errour and confusion and this is the Record God hath given us his Spirit but this was not spoken in thy Generation and ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit and thou say'st they are distinct from it Obj. And thou sayest the Spirit of Christ dwells in them which Spirit is God but thou dost not