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A02548 The honor of the married clergie, maintayned against the malicious challenges of C.E. Masse-priest: or. The apologie written some yeeres since for the marriage of persons ecclesiasticall made good against the cauils of C.E. pseudo-Catholik priest. In three books. By Ios. Hall, D. of Diuin. Deane of Worcest. Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536. An liceat sacerdotibus inire matrimonia. 1620 (1620) STC 12674; ESTC S119011 135,526 384

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can it choose but rise ouer the banks There is puritie therefore out of Wedlocke but not out of Continence And what needed my Detector to trauel so farre as England for an example of incontinency in a King Henrie or any wife of his whether falsely or truly obiected when hee might haue looked neerer the centre of their Church and haue found his owne Pope Iohn in the very time now questioned for this prohibition killed by the Deuill in the act of adulterie with another mans wife This end of the Wallet hangs behind him SECT VIII HIldebrand as I learned of Auentine is as much as Titio Amoris But how little hee differed in name or nature from Hellebrand Titio infernalis as Chemnitius calls him his Historie shewes too well And is it possible that any man should rise vp after so many hundred yeeres to Canonize Saint Hildebrand euen in that for which h● condemned himselfe My Reader must know the man a little from the witnesse of his owne Conclaue his Cardinall Benno Archpriest of the Roman Church then liuing Others besides tell of his beginnings in wicked Necromancy and murderous vnderminings and tyrannicall swaying of the Keyes ere he had them Benno tells how he got them how he vsed them gotten Hee got them by fraud mony violence vsed them with tyrannie There was a knot and a succession of Necromancers in those dayes Gerberius which was Syluester the second was the Master of the schole His chiefe Schoilers in the blacke Arte were Theophylactus afterwards changed into Pope Benedict and Laurentius and Gratianus These were the Tutors of Hildebrands yonger times of whom hee learned both Magike and Policy It is a world to see what worke these Magicians made like the ill spirits they raysed in Church and Common-wealth opposing Emperors setting vp what Popes they pleased poysoning whom they disliked At last it came to Hildebrands turne to take the Chaire To which purpose he separated first the Bishops from the Cardinals auerse from him when he had done he compelled them by terror and force to sweare unto his part which done hee was elected in spight of the Canons only by Lay persons by Souldiers he expelled the Cardinals ●ashly excommunicated the Emperor of his owne head without any Canonicall accusation without subscription of any Cardinall hyred a bloudy Villaine to murder the Emperour consulted with the Oracle of his breaden God which because it answered not hee cast it into the fire hee exercised most horrible cruelties vpon many hanging vp men at his pleasure vnconuicted in a word quantis haeresibus mundum corruperit c saith Benno in his conclusion His heresies his periuries can scarce be described by many Pens Clamat tamen altiùs c. But the Christian bloud shed by his instigation and command saith he cryes yet lowder to God yea the bloud of the Church which the sword of his tongue in a miserable prodition hath shed cryes out against him for which things the Church did most iustly depart from all communion with him Thus Benno who yet to make amends tells vs that Hildebrand vpon his death-bed repented of these lewd courses and sent to the Emperor and the Church to cry them mercy confessing as Sigibert reports that he had by the suasion of the Deuill raysed these wicked tumults Yet this is the man whom Bellarmine will iustifie by seuen and twentie Authors and C. E. can adde two more to the heape yea in those very things for which hee condemned himselfe Reader if one of his euill spirits should haue stept into Peters chaire doe yee thinke hee could haue wanted Proctors But how good an account we were like to haue of seuen and twentie Authours if it would requite the cost to examine them appeares in that Lambertus Schafnaburgensis which is cited for the man that magnifies the miracles of this Gregory sayes not one such word of him but speaks indeed the like of one Anno Archbishop of Coleine who liued and dyed in the time of Gregory As for Gregories miracles Benno the Cardinall tells vs what they were that hee raysed Deuils familiarly that hee shaked sparks of fire out of his sleeue by his magike A tricke that well beseemed an Hellebrand who set all the world on fire by his wicked impetuositie Wee will not enuy Rome this Saint let them inioy him let them celebrate him and cry downe Henry the Emperour and all that opposed him Still may such as these be the Tutelar gods of that holy Citie For vs it is comfort enough to vs that our marriages had such a persecutor That the Churches did hereupon ring of him for Antichrist Auentine is my author Pro concione c. In their sermons saith he they did curse HILDEBRAND they cryed out on him as a man transported with hatred and ambition Antichristum esse praedicant They declared him to be Antichrist They said that vnder the colourable title of Christ he did the seruice of Antichrist That hee sits in Babylon in the Temple of God and is aduanced aboue all that is called God So he And little better is that which his Schafnaburgensis so much extolled by C. E. recordeth Aduersus hoc decretum infremuit tota factio Clericorum c. Against this Decree saith he all the whole faction of Clergy men fretted and mutined accusing him as an Heretike and a man of peruerse opinion who forgetting the Word of Christ which said All men cannot receiue this did by a violent exaction compell men to liue in the fashion of Angels To which if I should adde the sentence of the Synod of Wormes and that of Brixia my Reader would easily see that it is not the applause of some deuoted Pen that can free him from these foule imputations of deserued infamie That vntruth then cleered another belike hangs vpon the score My Refuter charges mee with falsehood in saying That GREGORY the seuenth was deposed by the French and German Bishops Only the Germans hee saith were Actors in that Tragedie But if not at Wormes yet let him tell mee what was done at Brixia and by whom Quamobrem Italiae Germaniae Galliae Pontifices c. Wherefore saith AVENTINVS the Bishops of Italy Germany and France the seuenth of the Kalends of Iuly met at Brixia in Bauaria and sentenced HILDEBRAND to haue spoken and done against Christian pietie c. and condemned him of heresie impietie sacriledge c. And that my Refuter may find himselfe answered at once to the last of his Cauils wherein hee pleads that this deposition was not so much as pretended for the inhibition of these marriages but for other causes let him see the Copie of the iudgement passed against him in the said Councell wherein after the accusation of his Simoniacall climing into the Chaire the vice which he pretended most to persecute in others his forceable possession his heresie his machinations against the
THE HONOR of the Married CLERGIE Maintayned Against the malicious Challenges of C. E. Masse-Priest OR The Apologie written some yeere since for the marriage of persons Ecclesiasticall made good against the Cauils of C. E. Pseudo-Catholik Priest In three Books By Ios Hall D. of Diuin Deane of Worcest LONDON Printed by W. S. for H. Fether. 1620. TO THE MOST REVEREND FATHER IN GOD AND MY MOST HONORED Lord GEORGE Lord Archbishop of CANTERBVRIE Primate of all England and Metropolitan one of his Maiesties most Honourable Priuie Counsaile MOST REVEREND FATHER and no lesse honored Lord IT was my desire and hope to spend the residue of my Time and thoughts in sweete and sacred Contemplation Satan enuying me this happinesse interrupts me by the malice of an importune Aduersary Twelue yeeres agoe I wrote a little Apologeticall Letter for the Marriage of persons Ecclesiasticall and now thus late when I had almost forgot that I had written it a moodie Masse-priest drops out a tedious and virulent Refutation thorow my sides striking at the most Honourable and flourishing Clergie of the whole Christian World labouring not so much for my disgrace what would that auaile him as the dishonour and scorne of our holy Profession in the eyes of our people I could contemne it in silence if the Quarrell were only mine Now my wrong cannot bee distinguished from thousands God and his Church are ingaged in this cause which in my foile could not but sustayne losse neither may I be now silent with safetie without misconstruction Let this hand and Tongue bee no longer mine then they may serue my Master in Heauen and his Spouse on Earth That which I wrote in some three houres he hath answered in three quaternions of yeeres and what I wrote in three leaues he hath answered in no fewer Pages then 380. Should I follow him in this proportion hee might after some Centuries of yeers expect an answere in Tostatus-hydes whose first word should be Quis leget haec Or if my patience would delay my reply to the iust paces of his answere this Volume of his would perhaps bee vanished into Grossers shops for waste Paper in thuris piperisue cucullos and would no more need answere then now it deserueth one But hearing of the insultation of some Popishly affected who gloried and triumphed in this ACHILLES pro Catholicis I addressed my selfe to the Worke with no little indignation and no lesse speed That my selfe-conceited Aduersarie and his seduced abettors may see how little a well-ordered Marriage is guiltie of deadding our spirits or slacking our hands at the beginning of this Summers Progresse when it pleased his sacred Maiestie to take notice of this sorrie Libell and to question with mee concerning it I had not so much as read it ouer so newly was it come to my hands ere his happie returne bee it spoken to the only glorie of him that inabled me I had not only finished this Answere but twice written it ouer with my owne hand and yet made this but the recreation of the weightier businesses of my Calling which now did more then ordinarily vrge me It was my purpose to haue answered as beseemeth the person à quo not ad quem mildely according to my knowne disposition but vpon better deliberation I found the insolencie of my Refuter such that I could not fauour him and not bee cruell to my cause If therefore for many it is his owne art and word railatiue Pages hee receiue from my vnwilling and enforced Pen now and then though not a Relatiue to such an Antecedent yet perhaps some drop of sharper Vineger then my Inke vseth to bee tempered withall hee may forgiue mee and must thanke himselfe What needed this cause so furious an Inuectiue As if the Kingdome of Heauen and all Religion consisted in nothing but Mayden-head or Marriage Cardinall Bellarmine when hee speakes of the Greeke Church wherein a marryed Clergie is both allowed and required shuts vp moderately That if this were all the difference betwixt them and the Romane Church they should soone bee at peace If my Refuter had so thought this had not beene his first Controuersie Both estates meete in Heauen Iohn the Virgin rests in the bosome of marryed Abraham This inordinate heate therefore of prosecution rises from faction not from holy Zeale Hence it was that my Aduersary cunningly singled out this point from many others ranged in my poore Discourses as that wherein by Bishop Iewels confession hee might promise to himselfe the likeliest aduantage of Antiquitie and how gloriously doth he vaunt himselfe in the oftentation of Fathers and Councels which vaine flourish how little it auayles him the processe shall shew where it shall appeare vpon what grounds no small piece of Antiquitie was partiall to Virginitie and ouer-harsh to Marriage as Beatus Rhenanus a learned and ingenuous Papist confesseth But this wee may boldly say that if those holy men had out-liued the bloudie Times and scene the fearefull inconueniences which would after a settled peace insue vpon the ambition or constraint of a denyed Continency they had doubtlesse changed their note and with the moderate and wisest spirits of the later times pleaded for that libertie which the Reformed Church now enioyeth The vniuersall concession whereof after the priuate Suffrages of worthy Authours came to a publike treaty in the Romane Church amids the throng of their late Tridentine Councell and it is worth the while to obserue on what grounds it receiued a repulse If Priests should be allowed Marriage say those wily Italians it would follow that they would cast their affections on their Wiues and Children and consequently on their Families Countries whereupon would cease that strait dependance which the Clergy hath vpon the See Apostolike In so much as to grant their Marriages were as much as to destroy the Hierarchie of the Church and to reduce the Pope within the meere bounds of the Romane Bishopricke This was the plea of the Clergie their thriftie Laitie together with them enemies to the blessing or as they construe it the curse of fruitfulnesse are wont to plead Troppo teste our Gregorie Martin of old computes the preiudiciall increase that might arise from these Marriages to the Commonwealth It is not Religion but wit that now lyes in our way Fond men that dare thus offer to controll the wisdome of their Maker and will be tying the GOD of Heauen to their rules of state As it is no Church in the whole World except the Romane stands vpon this restraint whereof the consequences haue beene so notoriously shamefull that wee might well hope experience would haue wrought if not redresse of their courses yet silence of ours And surely if this man had not presumed that by reason of the long discontinuance of Popery time had worne out of mens mindes the memory of their odious filthinesses he durst not thus boldly haue pleaded for their abominable Celibate The question