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A86649 The fiery darts of the divel quenched; or, Something in answer to a book called, a second beacon fired, presented to the Lord Protector, and the Parliament, and subscribed by Luke Fawne, John Rothwel, Samuel Gellibrand, Thomas Underhill, Joshua Kirton, Nathaniel Web. Wherin, their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent, and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers, owned and vindicated, and all the rest which is in that book disowned, and their deceite laid open; how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy, that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the heathen. / By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog, called after the flesh, Francis Howgil. Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord, by one John Griffith, against us, whom the world calls Quakers, wherein his false accusations is denied, and he proved to be a slanderer, and the truth cleared from his scandals. By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world, called Edward Burrough. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662. 1654 (1654) Wing H3159; Thomason E817_16; ESTC R207383 23,227 35

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that Christ hath enlightned all men but I shal lay downe your own words and prove you liers out of that booke called the General good to all people and you say the light of God that is in all men that is to wit natural conscience that it is sufficient if wee give heed unto it to discover sinne and and turne our minds towards God and that this light within is the grace of God and that it is Christ in us Answer Let all that reades that booke see if you bee not liers and slanderers and perverters and are in the generation of those false witnesses which bore witnesse against Christ and here I charge you to be liers Where in all the bookdoth he say that the light of a natural conscience is sufficient to guide to God if it be taken heed to or where doth it say it discovers sin there is another lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is the grace of God there is a third lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is Christ in us there is a fourth lie bee ashamed that ever you should goe and present so many filthy lies to authority that there is no truth in at all Oh yee darke mindes would you be judging and prescribing what is heresie and blasphemie and cals the light of Christ paganisme and heresie but I am bold in the Name of the Lord to declare unto you and unto all the world that Christ is the true light that hath enlightned every one that comes into the world and that this light is spiritual and not natural and it convinceth of all sinne hee shal convince the world of sinne and whoso obey this light which shines into the conscience it leads up to Christ and out of sinne and it turns the mind towards God and it shines in darknesse but you dark sottish children know it not yea you that hate it have it and it shal condemne you and when the book of conscience shall be opened you shall be judged for all your hard speeches against the truth Another thing you present to be blasphemie and heresie is that the worship that is performed in England with those Ministers that sing Davids Psalms baptize infants weare double cuffes boot hose tops take tithes say men shal never be perfect in this world and that say the letter is the light and the letter is the word and that salvation is in the Scripture and that cals Matthew Mark Luke John the Gospel are seducers and no Ministers of the word but shew forth the Spirit of error Answer All those Ministers in England which abide not in the Doctrine of Christ all those worshippers and worships which is contrary to the Scripture are Heathenish and they worship they know not what and all such worship is an abomination to the true God and I charge you and all those that would be counted Ministers in England to prove from the Scripture where the Saints sung Davids conditions and Psalms in rimes and meter and where is there any Scripture for baptizing of Infants and whether any of the Ministers of Christ lived in pride and lusts of the flesh and where any Ministers of Christ took tithes which belonged to the first Priesthod and the first covenant and so they that uphold the first denie the second and the one everlasting offering which perfects for ever them that are sanctified and where doth the Scripture say that the letter is the word and the light but it witnesses against you and saith God is the word and Christ is the light and Christ is the Gospel yea the everlasting Gospel and Mathew Marke Luke and John declared of him and heare be you a witnesse against your self ye dark minded men and I charge you that you deny the Scripture and all those who upholds those things are in the heathenish nature without God in the world in the earth where the Divil dwels who is an accuser of the Bretheren and doth not the Scripture and they declare it who were Ministers of Christ that there were that ran after the errour of Balaam and their hearts was exercised with covetous practises and were there not such that was raylers and false accusers and blind watchmen and greedy dumb dogs and such as sought for their gaine from their quarter and such as lead into wichcraft and Antichrists deceivers you might as wel have called Christ and Paul and Peter and Jude Blasphemers and Hereticks but you are made manifest just to be them and in the same nature that called Christ a blasphemer and Paul a pestilent fellow and a setter forth of strange Gods and the Ministers of Christ seditious and thou might as wel say Christ despised a Governor when he called Herod a fox and now blessed be the Lord the houre of his Judgments is come and we freely declare against all deceit both in Magistrates Priests and people as they did that wrote forth the Scripture and beare witnesse to his name as they did in our measure and we have suffered and do suffer dayly by slanderous tongues such as you have and imprisonments and cruel mockings and stripes and bonds and can truly say to the praise of his name we beare in our bodies the markes of the Lord Jesus but we must passe through good report and evil report and it is our Crown and rejoycing to suffer for his name and now Gog and Magog and all the powers of the earth bends themselves and are angry even the nations that professe Christ in words and say the Scripture is their rule but walke not according to it and against all such hypocrisie are we witnesses to the fulfilling our testimony and the laying down of our lives that he alone may be honored who sits upon the throne of David and of whose Government there is no end to whom be praise for ever who shall breake all your combinations and plots and you shall be ground to powder who set your selves against him and be dashed to pieces as a Potters vessel And now to that which you call Antimagistratical errors that the magistrates are not to have titles of worshipful or right worshipful and that the Subjects of a Common Wealth which is not Israels Common wealth are to be disturbed and that no civil Government is to be acknowledged but the government of the Law within us Answer Where reads thou or any that any Magistrate was called worshipful or right worshipful or ever any of the Saints of God did so he that is righteousnesse and truth unto whom all honor and worship belongs God blessed for ever we owne and worship he is no respecter of persons And you filty flaterers who are in the curse respect mens persons and so you are rased out for ever from the faith of Christ and from the faith which all the holy men of God lived in that you know it not but you false accusers Magistrates we know and they are for the punishment of
weightier matters of the law nor the law nor teach any so to do all that ever heard us wil bear witnesse against thee and they though our enemies shal witnesse for us and against thee in this thing for we declare the everlasting Gospel which is the fulfilling of the law and this we declare that the law must have its operation through before the Gospel be witnessed and one of thy owne society said to us wee had preached the law and brought men to understand it from grace now let all take notice of the confusion you live in and let your owne hearts condemne you and the light in your owne consciences convince you that you are in Babylon and in confusion and are no true Church of Christ where all are of one heart and one mind and this againe I affi●me as before I did in thy hearing that the Scripture is not the Saints rule but the Spirit which gave forth the Scripture as the Scripture it self witnesses Rom. 8. Faith was before the Scripture was and therfore the Scripture is not the ground of it but a declaration of it and no other faith we owne but the faith which Abel had and which Moses had which was when no Scripture was written and that we own to be the rule of our conversation which they walked by the immediate spirit of God which was before the Scripture was written and all you who professe the Scripture to be your rule your own rule shal testifie against you when the eternal God judges you and they vvho vvitness that to bee their rule which gave forth the Scripture walkes up in the life of the Scripture more then you all and you are proved to be but the Jew outward who bosts of the Ordinances from the letter but persecutes them by slanders and false reproaches who witnesse the substance and your praise is only of men and not of God and the same woe which thou pronounces upon us wil fall upon thy owne head for this thy grievous slander that we neglect the law and teach men so to do and whereas thou brings many Scriptures and saith thus saith the Lord I answer the Scriptures we owne and by that spirit which speaks them forth wee witnesse them to be true and they are ours and though you say they are the savour of death to us that perish yet thou art found a lier for wee are saved out of the perishing state and death is destroyed through death and thou hast diminished through faith from that Scripture 2 Tim. 3. 15. false prophet like againe and so art both an adder and a diminisher and thou maist read thy portion in Rev. 22. 18 19. and whereas thou saiest know this thou perverter of the right way of God thou shalt bee judged by the word of Christ spoke I answer here thou sets the Scripture in the roome of Christ and art the perverter of the right way of God thy selfe for the Scripture saith all judgement is commited to the Sonn and the Scripture is not the Sonne and thou didst say and now againe writes that the Scripture shall judge the vvorld and so I charge it upon thee that thou art a blasphemer vvho exalts the Scripture above the Sonne of God and shalt be judged by the Sonne into utter drrknesse and into the pit from vvhence thou art come yet this I testifie he that receives the Sonne rejecteth not those vvords vvhich vvas spoken by him though thou and thy generation Pharisee like may make a profession of the vvords vvhich Christ spoke and yet reject the Sonne and all to vvhom Christ speaks vvhich receives him not shall be judged by the vvord vvhich he speaks for he speaks eternally which shal stand eternally but when did he speake to thee for this I doe declare thou maist have those words which he spoke and yet never have heard his word nor voice as the Pharisees had those words which God spake by the Prophets but never had heard his word nor seen his shape John 5. and thou saist quake and tremble at this that word which you reject and dispise shall judge you at the last day and saith thus saith the Lord and brings Christs words and the Apostles words I Answer the Lord rebuke thee thou scorner here thou hast made the filthynesse of thy heart knowne for out of the abundance thereof thy mouth speaks here thou art seen to be a scorner quaking and trembling we own it is that which the holy men of God witnessed but here be a witnesse against thy self that thou art a scorner of their conditions what hast thou to doe to talk of the Scrip●ure who art scorning that which it declares of here thou art made manifest to be one that hath the form but denies the power and scornes at it God scornes thee thou scornful one and let all that feare the Lord depart from thee and see thy filthinesse and search the Scripture whether it testifies not of that which thou scornes at and makes a mock upon And that we reject and despise the Scripture and the words which Christ spake which thou accusest us of this is another lie and a false slander for the scriptures vve ovvne in their place and by the Spirit of God sets to seale that they are true but that they shall judge the vvorld vvee doe deny and herein thy ignorance doth appear and that thou art blinded by the God of this vorld which thou vvould cast upon us and Christs vvords and the vvords of the Apostles shall fall upon thy own head for vengeance in flames of fire will the Lord render upon thee thou lier and slanderer and false accuser who art in disobedience to the Gospel of God And whereas thou saist the Lord hath spoken it and it shall surely come to passe and bringst many Scriptures I Ansvver The Scriptures vve ovvn and vvhat is spoken in them shall be fulfiled but thou lier when did God speake this to thee the judgements pronounced in them shall fall upon thy ovvn head because thou art guilty of the same iniquities as they vvere of against vvhom these Scriptures vvas declared and wheras thou saist we are those that the Lord before hath spoken of in his vvord and therefore no marvel vve vvould not have men to reade it and cites the 2. of Peter 2. Chap. I Ansvver I doe in the presence of the living God deny thee thy false assertion but it shal stand for thy owne condition thou art one in the generation which Christ spake of and that vvas in the Apostles dayes which hath the forme but denies the power as they had and I charge thee againe with a lie in thy mouth who saith we would not have men to read the Scriptures they who have heard us shall witnesse against thee that wee do direct to search the Scripture whether our doctrine be not true and by the Scripture shal our doctrine be tried how long wilt thou utter thy lies in the