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A89850	Satans design discovered: vvho under a pretence of worshipping Christs person in heaven, would exclude God and Christ, the spirit and light, out of the world: and that he should no more dwell in his people as he hath done, till Doomsday, that so he might rule in the hearts of men and women, unrevealed, while the world endures, onely under the name of God and Christ, talked of at a distance, that he may rule in the creation, exalted above God. Clearly laid open in an answer to Thomas Moor, who calls his book an Antidote against the spreading infections, &c. Wherein is discovered the crooked ways the winding Serpent takes to save his head, and reproach the truth with lies, that by any means he might make people believe that a lying spirit is among the Quakers, but is found within him. With 48. lies, taken out from three times as many, and sent back to be proved by the founder of them, T.M. Also some particulars, what the Quakers holds ... / By a servant to truth, called James Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1655 (1655)	Wing N313; Thomason E857_6; ESTC R202989	34,304	48

of Christ with that he would be brought to deny you all who are out of his way and have not his Word abiding in you To the Eleventh Query which asketh What that way in the Wilderness is which is called the way of Holiness and whether any may expect to finde it in these dayes To this thou saist Christ Jesus is the way the Truth and the Rom. 8. 10. Life and none can come to the Father but by him I say that these are true words but thou that makest it thy work to preach him out of the World till Doomes-day and confine him in the Heavens alone hast excluded him for being away to those now in the world to lead them out of the World which cannot ascend up into Heaven there to walk in him as a way so thou hast shut up the Kingdome against men as thy Fathers ever did And an Answer to the latter part of the Query which thou hast left unanswered must needs follow that none can expect to find such a way in these dayes nor till after they be dead where the Serpent perswades all his Hearers of their Righteousness And so of their Way also and so keeps his Way in the World In answer to the 12 Querie What that manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withall and whether there be any profiting but by it To the first part of this Querie thou saist it is that one Spirit which is in that one person of the Son of God and this person thou hast limited from the earth till domes day and doth not confesse to the Spirit manifest within the creature but tells of a distinct understanding of that Spirit and his testimony concerning Christ which is no more from thee but an imagination as all that knowes the Spirit may judge for there is no manifestation of the Spirit of God upon earth but what is within and those that it witnessed it manifested witnessed it dwelling in them but thy testimony is as far different as the Heavens is from the earth And for the two latter parts of the Querie whether it be not of it selfe an infallible guide and whether there be any profiting but by it least they should fal on thy head having named them thou tellest a lie and therewith makest an escape saying they are sufficiently answered before 1 Cor. 6. 19. To the 13 Querie what and where that worship of God in Spirit is and whether any can worship in Spirit but those that are borne of the Spirit and whether they so borne need any other guide in his spirituall worship but that Spirit of which they are borne and whether such worshippers have not been are now different from all other worshippers in the world And to the forepart of this thou addest some words as touching the Samaritans worship and Jews worship not to the purpose but as concerning whether any can worship in Spirit but such as are borne in Spirit and whether they need any other guide but that Spirit and all the rest of the Querie which is the most materiall to shew thy deceipts from these thou stealest away without any answer at all as though the naming them over againe was sufficient Art thou not ashamed to call these answers dost thinke all are as blind as thy selfe and those thy companions whom thou hast blinded This day is the Lord through the pride of thy heart covering thee with thy own shame and is discovering the skirts of the whore and her nakednesse appeares and shall more appeare that the fire may be kindled wherein to burne her and all her Merchants that have beene made rich through the abundance of her delicacy begin to bewaile and stand aftre of for feare of her torments crying for helpe yet shall the Nations which have beene deceived see her lewdnesse and be set free from her witchcrafts then shall the Lord be knowne present and praised To the 14 Querie which is about the light thou confessest it to be Jesus Christ which lighteth every man which cometh into the world but perceiving it against thy selfe doctrine and trading in the conclusion thou would bind it only to the enlightening of them who are beleivers and would deny the light to be the condemnation of the unbelievers saying it is not the coming Job 3. 15 of the light to them is the condemnation when Christ saith this is the condemnation that light is come into the world and men loved darknesse rather then light and If I had not come they had not had sin But thy testimony is contrary so they that beleive thee 2 Cor. 4. 6. make Christ a liar and they that beleives Christ makes thee a liar and thou would'st limit this light to be personall which all the Children of the light have know ne shining in their hearts which is the condemnation of them that know it not nor can the Children of darknesse judge of the light what it is who puts it afarre off yet thou that hates it hast it against thee though thou have it not with thee not being guided by it To the 15 Querie what the law of the Spirit of life is which made Paul free from the law of sin and death c. And instead of answering this thou fallest a wrangling with it and thou would make people believe that Pauls freedom he speaks of Rom. 8. 2. from the law of sin and death was not from that law that led him into captivity to sin which he complaines on and so thy first thing is to prove the Apostle a lyar who saies the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law oi sin and death for what the law could not do in that it was weake thorough the flesh the Son of God condemning the sin in the flesh that the righteousnesse of the law might be fulfilled in the creature by Christ Another thing where thou would prove him a liar is in that he saith he is made free from the law of sin and death and this thou also wholly denies as though thou knew his condition better then he did himselfe And thou callest the body of sin a law and the law of sin another law and such mangled stuffe not worth mentioning and for which thou hast no proof but thy blind Imaginations who would have 3 or 4 Lawes but not one of them in the Heart onely the Law of sinne and thou concludest that the Proposer of the Queries cannot make out what God hath revealed to him and thy ground is because he hath propounded these Queries as much as to say He that asked Questions of the Scribes and Pharisees could not make out his Revelations and this is thy reasoning whereby thou wouldst shew another mans folly Indeed to the blind guides he could never make out his Revelations nor can he now where he is but who wants abilities to make out any thing of the spirit of God and thinkes to

his sufferings which he suffered in his own person who is the everlasting sacrifice for of our selves without him in us we can do nothing but as he is the doer and sufferer in us But this the wantons knowes not nor the Beasts of the field who live in jollity but despise the chastisements of the Sonne who is perfected through sufferings in which he leads all his and suffers with them and beares up the world who know him not which shall account for his sufferings and piercings woundings and reproaches though now you regard not nor are sensible of your wickedness in your souls or bodies as thou sayst you are not And you are they that cannot confess Christ come in your flesh now to give you a sense of your sins and suffer with you in all your passage out of the world and so are the Antichrists John speaks of but this you would shuffle off by saying you consess him come at Jerusalem and there suffered in his own person I say so did those John speaks of and so doth the Pope now and all his Rabble from the highest to the lowest of you and if that confession in word he acknowledge of that spirit of God John speaks on then where is the spirit of Antichrist the Pope will quit himself by as large confession of words as you but neither he nor you brings forth his life into the word and so confess him in you in buffettings whippings mockings imprisonments and all other sufferings for his righteous name in you and his righteous nature acting you contrary to selfe this would destroy your Partonages pride and stateliness from the least of you who calles your selves his Ministers to the Pope who weares his treble Crown and yet calls himself a Servant of Servants and so you are of them who in words confess him but in works deny him but it is the appearance of Christ in his Saints in all Generations which hath judged Antichrist which ever put his appearance into another age afar off but now hath put his appearance into another world so far from owning him manifested in any measure in their mortall bodies that they hold it blasphemy for any to witness him where he is appeared and this is the spirit of Antichrist gone out into the world and now is in the world would exclude Christ out of the world that he with his polluted spirit under fair pretences might rule the world being got into the hearts of worldly men and women now preacheth up his Kingdom here for terme of life and to cheat the more promiseth freedom after death and this faith hath he begotten in the world and his Ministers preach it and uphold it with all their power both in practice and Doctrine and the people where the lust is entered love to have it so but blessed be the Lord who hath appeared and is appearing in the hearts of mortal men and women and there is manifest revealing the man of sin and ruling the Creation and he is known to be Antichrist whose heart is without Christ and cannot confesse him manifest come in Spirit into the heart of flesh but such who there see him judgeth Antichrist and his Doctrine and so thou art judged and thy worke in thy booke which is to preach Christ out of the heart and not to be manifested in the flesh and thou art he who would make God a liar who saith he hath given his Son into the world for a Leader and Ruler to the people of all generations that will beleive in his light and own him who is the same yesterday and to day and for ever and this is the Testimony of Jesus by thee rejected but by us received in Spirit and spirituall Ministation not in the letter but within in Spirit And thou goes on to tell how the teachings of the Father is held forth and thou saist first in all the 2 Cor. 3. 6. books of his Creation Chastisements and Changes c. Secondly more clearely and abundantly in the holy Scriprures To which I say there is another thing before both these the Fountaine of both these and that is the Spirit of God and light of Christ without a measure whereof neither of these can teach though the wisest men in the world have both these as is plaine by the Jews who far exceed all you in the knowledge of the letter and strictnesse of life thereto yet know not the voices of the Prophets nor Moses that gave it forth as is plaine Acts 13. 27. and these had the Scriptures and the Creation also but not having the Word in them by which the Creation was made was led by the Devill Iohn 5. 38 39. 40. Iohn 19. 7. to spend it upon their lusts and though they searched the Scriptures and thought to have eternall life in them yet they crucified him that was the eternall life and brought the Scriptures to do it by thy worke in thy booke nay the Disciples themselves though they had the Scriptures and the book of the Creation and had beene with Christ many yeares yet could not understand the Scriptures till by his Spirit he lightned their understandings as is plaine Luke 24. 45. and this was after his resurrection also and if all these came short till inspired with the Spirit and enlightned and 2 Pet. 3. 16 if all that are unlearned and unstablished with that Spirit wrest all Scriptures to their own destruction then it is plaine that neither Scripture nor Creation can be rightly used without the light of Christ and hough the Scriptures be profitable for the man of God furnishing him for good works yet when the man of Sin reads it he therewith pleads for Sin and furnisheth himselfe against all good works and this is seene largely in thy booke so I say the Spirit is before the letter and is given to lead into all truth without which the Devill turnes the letter into a lie and would tempt with it and 2 Timr 3. 16. 17. so thy literall teaching without the Spirit is little worth and though thy whole drift be all along to deny the Spirit and set up the letter in his stead and to that end hast reckoned up the Names of many of the Saints of God which makes little for thy purpose who were all men that were taught in Spirit need not to run nnto a John 16. 13. booke so seeke their knowledge but had the word of the Lord from Gods own mouth and there was the Oracle whereat they enquired which thou would it make the letter to be who never knew what it was to enquire at his mouth whose Ministry is literall Andthou tellest of many things and the deliverance of God from the envy that was against his people and this thou would set up for a teacher but canst not see the envy against them now and their deliverance as great as ever from all you Woolves that seeke to devour with open mouth thy blind

eye cannot see this nor doth thy Oracle leade thee to it further than granishing the Sepulchers of them that was so used even whil'st thou art found in the same worke and thou tells of Christs appearance being a Rocke of offence to both the houses of Israel but canst not see thy selfe stumbling at his light and appearance and would'st preach him out of the world such is thy offence at his appearance and how his Children are for signes and wonders now and his appearance now every where spoken against and thou tellest much of the Scriptures being the infallible Oracle of God I say if they be so let them alone and own them as they are that they may be fulfilled and not changed but they are in an wofull case who have no better infallibility then the letter when the Serpent hath given his Crooked subtill meanings and interpretations and hath turned it to a contrary end as is plaine in this generation even the plainest words that ever Christ spoke are turned quite contrary both in judgment and practice even by your parish Masters as witnesse Math. 23. 8. 10. besides multitudes more which might be instanced but blessed be God who hath given us the Spirit of his Son into our hearts whereby the Orocle is seene and the pervertors the Hypocrites and the Phaire shyers of this generation which we had never seene had we had no better teaching then from you or that we could find in the letter without the life and Spirit which you would drive people from and in thy commendation of the letter thou sai'st therein is knowne the whole Counsell and Mystery of God that is to be or may be revealed unto mortall men even in those Scriptures that Timothy had beene instructed into and knowne from his youth whereas if thou was not blind thou mightest see how thou hast excluded and made uselesse all the Apostles writings for no man who hath so much as reason can judge that Timothy was instructed from his youth in those Epistles which was but then written to him and was never seene before and many other which was not then written which he had never seene and in these which Timothy had knowne from his youth was the whole Counsell of God sai'st thou and nothing to be added to them so thou hast judged the Apostles writings which are added since to be superfluous as to the whose Counsell of God and such mangled stuffe as this comes out of Babells bottle as I might have shewed in many more parts of thy booke but my life is not to rake in such confusion As thou tellest of Christ having given gifts for the perfecting of the Saints till we all come to a perfect man And in another place thou callest perfection a devillish Doctrine and thus vomits thy Blasphemy as though Christ gave gifts for accomplishing a devillish Doctrine But Christ and his Doctrine was ever counted a Devil and devillish in the eyes of thy Generation and by thy own mouth thou art judged thou art not one of those he begifted who callest the End devillish for which he begifted them And thou sayst they deny the sufficiency of Gods Teaching who deny the sufficiency of the Scripture as to lead to God without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of them I say I deny the sufficiency of any carnal visible thing Scripture Joh. 16. 13. or other without the Spirit of God to lead into the use thereof for that is it which is appointed of God to lead into all Truth and out of all Errour and there is no Teaching further sufficient than that leades and therefore nothing more by the Devil envied and thou that denies this to be sufficient even to those who never heard nor saw letter I say thou art he that denies the alone sufficiency of Gods Teaching and this I shall be ready while the Lord will to witness against thee in word or writing and all that say the letter is sufficient without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of it In thy Answer to the 1 Query thou sayst the new Jerusalem appears not to be come down to Us because of our grief of heart and yearning bowels for the miseries of others I say thou shewes what thou knowes of it Did not Christ weep over Jerusalem and had John no bowels of compassion towards others and wilt thou Rev. 21. 23. deny their seeing of the new Jerusalem Hath not thy Imaginations blinded thee above measure Can any rightly commiserate others who are out of Rest but those that are come into the Rest Indeed the Hypocrite is troubled for the Mote in his brothers eye before the beam be pull'd out of his own And thou sayst further It is not yet come down out of Heaven to any I say it was come down in John's time and when went it up again one y it was taken away and is taken away from the Popish Clergy and all that have followed them since the Mystery of Iniquity Yet hath not God been without his City here upon Earth since it came down after Christs Ascension but what is this to the Enemies thereof thou knowest it not who art preaching it out of the Word as thou art Christ the Light of it which should lead to cleanse all those who must enter into it 's for the Devil must keep the hopes of this out of peoples mind as long as he can least they begin to seek the way of Entrance and cast off their sinnes and so his Kingdome be broken and an End of his Ministery And for the second thou sayst this Answer must serve also To the third which askes where the New Covenant is this thou shufflest by with other things which are Psal 119 11. Jer. 20. 9 Rom. 10. 8. Isa 51. 7 Gal. 4. 6 Heb. 8. 10 13. nothing to the Question least thou should be forced to confess the Prophets and Apostles words and the Covenant to be written in the heart this thou puts into another World and not fully to be done here least any finding the Law and Word God hath written in the heart the blind guides should be discovered therewith which the Prophets and Apostles witnessed in their hearts whereby they cryed against all the blind Guides and Hirelings in their time But sayst thou While Peaple are here they must be imperfect in every thing Truly I know not how it should be any other with them who deny the Workes and Sufferings of Christ in them when Satans Work is perfect then theirs may but the least Work of Christ in whom oever he workes it is perfect who in him are created unto good Workes that they should walk therein but this Doctrine is an Enemy to the evil Workes and therefore cannot be received To the fourth Query where that annointing is spoken of 1 John 2. And this thou would'it thrust out from the Spirit within to your literal Teaching when John saith

upon pain of imprisonment and that without any limit of time yea many for but looking at you and not speaking a word such is the strength of your weapons which in the Ministers of his spirit was mighty through Christ and needed not Clubs and Prisons to defend it so look upon your work and weigh it with truth and the Saints practice and see how they agree for no further are you his Ministers then you can own the Saints life though you can change their words to your wills yet their lives you cannot and by that you must be tryed And seeing it is the great work in these dayes to separate Christ and his light word and spirit as far as the Heavens and the Earth never to come neerer till the end of the world and thou scofs at infallibility calls perfection a Doctrine of Devils and pleads for sin while men lives and much such like Doctrine against Christ I shall lay down these particulars following as I have received them from the Lord which through the strength of God I shall stand by against thee and all thy Generation that shall oppose your selves 1. That the light of Christ is the first principle that shews a man his condition and leads to Christ the Saviour and without it the Gospel is hid from every Creature living and without it none can read with profit 2. That though Christ Jesus in himself hath suffered and satisfied the whole will of God for all the world yet none but who by faith in this comes to receive a measure of the same Christ in the same spirit and power and life in them can have redemption by him from sin and death 3. That the word of God is spiritual and who hath it hath it in their heart and that none who hath it not in their hearts hath eternal life though they may have the letter as the Devil hath to pervert to wrong ends to plead for sin and tempt the sons of God 4. That none can understand the Scriptures nor know the voice of Christ in them but who have that spirit and light in them that gave them forth to open their understanding to know the mystery and life of them 5. That no man knowes his own heart but who first owns the light of Christ to search it and the same light that searches the heart gives light to know God and his glory 6. That the least measure of living faith that is not a fancy but stands in Christ Jesus is present power against all sin and the greatest power of Satan if the Creature abide faithful in it and run to no other helps but minde obedience in it 7. That no man can be a Minister of Christ nor preach him truly but who preacheth perfection and that is the end of his Ministry which thou calls a Doctrine of Devills 8. That there is not one particular of the worship you perform in your high places but it is added or altered from what it was when Christ appointed it and established it 9. That God and his word is now manifest in the bodies of his Saints in the same manner and as freely as formerly he hath been and that there he is a sufficient Teacher and shield against sin without any other help to all according to the measure of their knowledge of him present 10. That no man can receive the things of Gods spirit but who minde somewhat of God in them to receive it withall 11. That the least measure of Gods spirit is an infallible guide and without it no man knowes Christ nor can judge of any thing of God or his truth his Kingdom or the way to it or the Devil and his subtleties but lies open to be deceived in all things and to be led by men of corrupt mindes in whom the Devil is 12. That the ground of all Errors Sects and Opinions Heresies and blasphemies that are in the world is in being led from the guidance of this spirit and all live in error but who are guided by it but none ever errs who was guided by it alone nor ever shall These being the main things for which thou accuses us in thy Book having wrested them contrary to our judgement and practice thereby to darken the way of truth more dear to me then life to the end that all may finde it and rest to their souls I have laid them down as plain as I can as they are in Iesus in me revealed without any adding or diminishing as in the fight of God so when thou writes to oppose again let it be plain to the people whether thou owns of denies so the difference may be judged with the truly wise in heart and the ground of it and do not cast a mist over the truth as in thy book and yet dare neither own nor deny but secretly bite and devoure Also prove these lying slanders cast upon us or blame me not for calling them lies and discovering the father thereof Thou hast plowed wickedness and reaped iniquity and hast eaten the fruit of lies THE END ERRATA Page 3. line 13. for sties read stirs p. 21. l. 31. for our mouthes read your mouths p. 26. l. 5. for he acknowledgeth read be a Knowledge Page 52 line 3 for sent read silence and line 9 of the same Page for buglary read burglary

and so utters Psal 119 11. v. thy confusion who faist The grace of God that brings salvation instructs not to look for any light or spirit in them for direction when Christ saith He will send the spirit of truth who shall guide them into all truth which thou denyest to be grace who deniest that Spirit for teaching And whereas thou would make people believe that directing to the light within opens a gap to all Popery and corrupt Principles thou shewest thy self herein to be contrary to the spirit of God which spake in the Apostles who makes the cause of all wickedness to be blindness of the heart as thou maist read Eph. 4. 18. and that such are past feeling whose hearts are blinde and so given to all maner of lasciviousness to commit sin with greediness and thou that would deny the infallible Spirit of God for giving the sence of the Scriptures and saith we have the same ground for that as the Papists have for the Pope or Councel thou shalt know thy Blasphemy against that Spirit which thou speakest against without which no Scripture can be opened nor Act. 13. 27. Luk. 24. 45 the voices of the Prophets and Apostles known as also thy calling of Perfection a devilish Doctrine which is the Doctrine of Christ Matth. 5. 48. the Doctrine of his Apostles Col. 1. 28. yea the end of the whole Ministry Eph. 4. 11 12 13. and that is the spirit of the Devil in thee that calls it devilish Doctrine which spirit in thy Forefathers the Pharisees cal ed Christ a Devil and so thou dost his Doctrine and him in his servants and whereas thou tellest of some who in words confess Christ but in works deny him I say thou art he who hath him in thy mouth to talk on but denies him and his working any of his works of Righteousness in his Creatures now as in divers places of thy book thou hast done So this word thou hast spoken against thy self and so by thy own mouth thou art condemned And whereas thou would charge us with serving and magnifying our bellies I say with shame may thou speak it who could not abide from thy dinner but broke up thy dispute about it of which thou wouldst clear thy self formerly but in thy book art made to confess thy act and excuses it because thou had ridden ten miles and it was about an hour after noon I know it s not usual with the Parish Ministers to miss their meal time so long but that being an extra ordinary occasion and many strangers come much farther thou might have broken custome one houre had that beene all but was not an other thing in it thou may remember what thou was then to prove but could not and it was high time to breake off this many can witnesse and when it was alledged you was faint I said to John Wray let them that are faint go to eate but let not the meeting breake up to which he answered if we would not go away he must use his authority of his house whereupon I said we would not stay in his house against his mind yet notwithstanding thou art not ashamed to say in thy booke we would gladly have beene gon and charge us with magnifying our bellies be ashamed of thy worke who magnified thy dinner before the worke of God then in hand And thus the Devill would ever cast his works upon the innocent and have the reproach to lie on another this thouwould deny againe had not thou printed it thy selfe as many other things thou hast As for thy excuses thou makes for thy errours thou then uttered I say what thou then said if thou now deny I shall not contend I had rather heare an errour recanted then defended and persisted in As for thy saying that Paul saw Christ with his bodily eies I say they may beleive thee who hath not seene him and who knows no better for any proofe thou hast yet made thereof they may chuse but admit he did was it not a second appearance which thou affirmes cannot be till the end of the world and would accu e me herein as a blasphemer so see thy confusion but if thou be blinded others may see who owne the light which thou denies Thou askes four Queries First concerning God being in mee and how I say by his in-dwelling according to his promise 2 Cor. 6. 16. Second That no wicked man hath benefit by Christ nor any man till he can witnesse Christ in him I say Christ is that only benefit of all creatures and only Psal 69. 22. he that hath him hath the benefit but to all that receive him not he is the condemnation and to such all becomes curses John 3. 18. 19. John 15. 22. Third Whether the writing of the Prophets and Apostles be a dead letter I say without the Spirit it is nor can any without that Spirit that gave them forth understand them or know the voyces of Prophets or Apostles Luke 24. 45. Acts 13. 27. Fourth Whether Christ be any thing that beareth our sins in us as the propitiation I say Christ is he that beares the sins of all the world even them who know him not nor his propitiation and so it is that men are not consumed and where he ceaseth bearing the creature falls into Hell Psa 75. 3. 2 Cor. 1. 5. Rom. 8. 17. Col 1. 24. but thou that denies this art not thou ashamed to accuse us for murthering the just one in us if he cannot suffer in us how can we murther him in us yet he alone is our propitiation but none know this but where he is revealed And thou still goes about to prove the Scriptures to be the absolute ground and Medium of faith though before denied yet unwilling thou art that Christ should be the absolute ground and Medium yet canst thou there is not two absolute Mediums it must either be Christ or the letter that absolute and if the letter be the absolute means ehen faith may be had without Christ being the means find no Scripture to shut him out but thou brings that of 2 Tim. 3 the Scriptures are able to make wise through faith and this thou would make the ground of faith which cannot make wise without faith and such shamefull shifts art thou put to to get Christ out of his place and put the letter in his stead wherein the letter is against thee which saith Faith is the gift of God and Christ is the ground and medium of it so Antichrist can get no ground by the Scriptures to thrust out Christ unlesse he turne them quite contrary And whereas thou tells we do not worship the same God thou did confesse I say the Saint's God was ever a Spirit and dwelt in them in spirit but the Heathens had their Gods ever without them who could not be in them further than imagination so thou may see what God thou then confessed the chiefe

Priests and hirelings and persecuters did not worship the same God Christ and the Saints did though they said God was their Father and though they prayed to him yet not knowing him in them they worshiped they know not what for saith the Spirit that which may be known of God is manifest in men Rom. 1. 19. And they that had not God abiding in them they thought to have eternall life in the Scripture and from the letter they crucified God This was all the life they found in the Scriptures who had not the word abiding in them John 5. 38 39 John 19. 7. And saith Christ ye have not known him but I know him and if I should say I know him not I should be a liar like you John 8. 55. and so saith all the Sons of God in their measure but thou saies thy God is not knowne as Christ did so not his God nor his knowledge our God is not the God of the lier so who reads thy booke may reade thy God and thy knowledge of the true God And whereas thou saies that which Richard Farnsworth required was contrary to what the Lord required I say the Priests of Baal who had their God to seeke without knew not the ground of Elias challenge yet was it not contrary to God but thy God thou tellest on who would not suffer thee to hold dispute an houre past dinner-time it is not like he should lead thee into this triall to serve the Lord with denying the belly which shamelesly thou wouldst cast upon us to be servers of our bellies when thou denied the worke of God for serving thy belly thou layest it down as a great temptation to require thee to trust thy God and evidence his power without carnall food or carnall books I say the Saints of God had the word of God in them and the man of God lives not by bread alone but by that word and of their God they have made proofe in fasting when there to they have beene moved and this was no temptation Isa 56. 10. 11. but take from the carnall minde bread and books and then the dead and dumbe appeares yea some eloquent teachers we should have as dumbe as those was in Esay's time yet in the time of fullnesse they will boast of their God but in the time of affliction their faith failes therefore such Ministers lay the foundation of their call upon a fat benefice no meanes no Ministers with the Parish Masters no cash no call Thou saist God hath spoken to you by his Son and yet denies immediate teaching I say the Son is a Spirit and if he speake it is immediately but it seemes thou meaneth by the letter which the Son spoke to them that heard him but what is that to thee more then to all the world who hast never heard his voyce but used thy tongue when God never spoke to thee and there with would limit the Lord saying His last dispensation is published and nothing more is to be added or altered who hast not instructed him neither will he take Counsell at thee But why have you so added to and altered his worship under the Gospell so that there is not one thing performed in your Idols Temples which is not altered from that manner in which he left the Apostles and how have you added your Titles and Hire your Mastershipt your Idlenesse your studdied houre glasse-Preaching singing Davids Psalmes in order of your Ballets sprinkling Infants with all your whole rabble of inventions there to so that nought is left unaded or unaltered yet would you limit God that he must not add nor alter what you have imagined but if any by the Spirit of God come forth in his Ministrie as he hath ever called them such you cannot receive but with the same measure as ever his Ministers was received amongst the literall Priest-hood And whereas thou tels of a letter that thou expected in answer to thy writing and would accuse me for not sending it I say hast thou not consealed it not finding it for thy purpose to print that in thy conscience will tell thee but if not by thee yet by some of thy partakers for to John Rays house was it sent that day and what way else it should come to thy hand I know not And for the denying thy false doctrines which thou then defended as long as thou couldest which it seemes thou art now ashamed of having had a little more time to search thy expositers thy wits being come to thee I say there is not one perticular that I in that letter charged upon thee but were it profitable to the truth they would be arested under the hands of a multitude of witnesses but for thy fifth perticular thou hast thrust in thy selfe instead of Timothy that thou mightest seeke occasion to slander but how art thou brazened to deny these things which thou so long contended for before 100 of witnesses and yet after thou hast denied them goes crookedly about to prove them in a cunning secret way as is seene in thy booke though thou darst not own them openly in the same words thou first gave them out yet now thou saies God was not God is manifested in flesh which is to mend the other with another Lie as thou may reade Rom. 1. 19. 21. and 28. Where thou maist read thy errour and that God was manifest in men and women since Christs ascention even in the wicked who not retaining his knowledge was given up to licentiousnesse and in the Saints also as John 14. 19 20 21. and 15. the 4. and 5. and 1 Epist John 4. and 4. v. 2 Cor. 6. 16. with too many now Scriptures more to mention al shewing thy Antichristian Doctrine who not knowing God manifest in thy selfe would perswade all others not to looke for it and herein thou denies the effects of Christs prayer and promise John 17. 21. 23. John 14. 20. but where he is manifest and the creature reconciled Isay 26. 12. Phil. 1. 13 Heb. 13. 21. Col. 1. 29 Math. 11 27. thou art judged and thy Doctrine to be from a contrary Spirit who denies God manifest in thee and yet in thy blind envie would accuse me for murthering him in me Thou blind sot can I murther him in me if he never was in none since the ascention and thy selfe who denies his working in the Saints now and his Revelations to be now in the same manner as to his Saints formerly I say what revelation canst thou Judge of who denies any light or understanding within men but they that know him witnesse him working all their works in them now and where he doth not there the Devill works and they that have not the knowledge of God after the same manner have it after another manner and here the Children of God is knowne and the Children of the Devill and their manner of working so with thy blind eye Judge thy selfe and what thou knowest of thy