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A88103 Exceptions many and just against two injurious petitions exhibited to the Parliament· The one Iuly 16. The other Aug. 4. 1653. Both of them not only against tithes, but against all forced or constrained maintenance of ministers, examined and found many waies faulty against piety and justice, and as such now discovered, by Theophilus Philadelphus. Ley, John, 1583-1662. 1653 (1653) Wing L1878; Thomason E712_17; ESTC R202718 51,137 63

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the supreame government 4. Of the present Parliament they say that the same God who hath pulled the former Parliament downe hath set them up not to rule for themselves but for the people of God not to seek their own but the honour of Christ Wherein their words be good and if their meaning be no worse they may passe without exception But if they mean themselves only or their own party to be the people of God and their Petitions though most unrighteous and unreasonable as this is must sway the votes and determinations of Parliament their opinion is a meere deceipt and their expectation I trust will be deceived Petition 5. For themselves they say We can doe no lesse then hope and pray that the spirit of the Lord may fall downe upon you and teach you to rule after the heart of Christ to whom we make hold to make this humble addresse not to interrupt your weighty affaires or as misdoubting your wisdome and faithfulnesse But to shew you how our hearts owne you as our Parliament and to confess we dare not neglect our Assistance to the great worke of the Lord though it be but in being your remembrancers of what you have proposed to us in your late Declaration to the breaking of all our yoakes and removing all our burthens at which our soules joy and to keep warme the breathings of that spirit we humbly crave leave to spread before you one grand burthen under which we have groaned till our hearts ake ANSWERE Which words may be resolved into these particulars 1. Their professed 1. Good opinion of the Parliament 2. Great affection to the Parliament 3. Zeale for the Parliament 4. Their joy in the Parliament 2. Their own sad condition by the grand burthen of Tithes under which they groane untill their hearts ake 1. For the First their good opinion of the Parliament They make no doubt of their wisdome and faithfulnesse 2. For their great affection to the Parliament they desire by this to shew how they own them as their Parliament 3. Their zeale for the Parliament in praying that the spirit of the Lord may fall downe upon them and teach them how to rule after the heart of Christ 4. their joy in the Parliament for their Declaration to break off all their yoakes and remove all their burthens 1. For the First we think so well of the Parliaments wisdome that they need not the advice of these petitioners and their faithfulnesse that they will not be corrupted by their sollicitations to act otherwise then according to the rule of piety and Justice 2. For the Second their hearts owning this Parliament that 's somewhat for some great enemies to Tithes have taken the boldness to tell the World in print that there hath been no Parliament since there was not a King to parly withall But not much for it may well be suspected as was observed of the other petitioners that it is with an implicit condition that the Parliament own them and their cause as they represent it under the notion of oppression by payment of Tithes 3. For their professed zeale in praying for the Parliament that the spirit of the Lord may fall downe upon them and teach them to rule after the heart of Christ we say Amen to this prayer only with this addition that the spirit of God and heart of Christ and the word of God and Christ may all work together for their guidance and direction both in their consultations and conclusions 4. Whereas they professe their joy in the Parliament for their Deolaration to breake all their yoakes and to remove all their Burthens Wee question whether the Parliament in any Declaration hath specified Tithes to be a burthen or a yoake we believe they have not nor can they on the suddaine take off all burthens while there is so great a necessity to maintaine a fighting Navie by Sea as well as an Army by Land 2. The other part which is the close of their prologue or proem to their proposall against Tithes is their sad condition by that grand burthen under which they have groaned till their hears ake besides what wee have observed before of the burthens on the back and yoakes on the necks of Gods People and of their groanes and cryes Wee shall here touch only at two things the one is how such Joyes as but now they professed and such groaning and aking of the heart by the grand burthen not yet mooved can agree together The other is that suppose Tithes were a burthen they may bee mistaken in the weight of it and I think many are so who when Warrs and plunder have impoverished many obstructions of Trade beene an hinderance to the recruiting of their state and great payments have oppressed them by the clamors of such as these Petitioners put all their aggreevance upon the Score of Tithes which without the other detriments would never bee matter of complaint to any but to such as are wayward or covetuous Thus much of their Prologue their Epilogue is but short no more but this upon the granting of their request your Petitioners shall owne the Lord in you and Blesse the Lord for you and Pray and hope and wayt to see your hands stretched out for the Lord till you shall helpe to teare the Flesh of the Whore and burne her with fire If they put downe Tithes and all forced maintenance and set up nothing like it in stead thereof then they will owne the Lord in them and blesse God for them what not otherwise if the Lord be and appeare in them will they not owne him but upon their owne conditions we see nothing in their Petition that may induce us to conceive their sence to be any other then hypotheticall But what o they meane by Praying and Hoping and Waighting to see their hands stretched out for the Lord till they shall helpe to teare the Flesh of the Whore and burne her with fire What Whore do they meane whose flesh shall be torne and what tearing burning if they meane by the whore o Ioseph Salmon in his Book of Antichrist in man that common whore not commonly knowne untill a late writer made discovery of her calling her the whore the Babilon the Antichrist in man that is the fleshly Wisdome or carnall pollicy of the Creatures as he extends the Word that is no worke either for this or any other Parliament if they mean as most of the Orthodox Protestants hold the Antichrist of Rome and so far their words their hands stretched out till they shall help to teare induce us to stretch fanaticall fancy by tearing and burning her the utter ruine of that Arch-enemy of Christ Revel 17.16 To which place they allude though cat they say teare the flesh how is it like to be done by any acting of this Parliament which is limited for its sitting to the space of a yeare and a little more and then what an abuse is this of the holy Word of God the holy practice of prayer and the venerable Assembly of the Parliament to seale or shut up their suits unto them with such a fantasticall conclusion The Acceptance of their Petition THat I may not make an end or take my leave of my Reader with such a distastfull folly I will make up my last period with the Parliaments acceptance of and answer unto these importunate Petitioners which is set downe in this sort The Petitioners called in and being come to the Barre Mr Speaker by command of the House returned them this answer p Mercur. Pol. num 165. p. 2636. Gentlemen the House doth take notice of your good affection to the Parliament and hath commanded me to tell you that the Businesse in your Petition shall be in due time under consideration and the House will doe therein as the Lord shall direct them Wherein they shew their civility by their smooth courteous answer to so rough and rigorous a Petition their wisdome in accepting of their affection as it was pressed not of their Judgment and in that they would not rashly but upon due consideration returne an Answer and their Piety in that they resolved to doe there in as God shall direct them Now the God who standeth in the Congregation of the Mighty Ps 28.1 Observing both what they doe and with what minds and to what ends they act direct their councells and debates to resolutions of Piety and Justice that they may not doe unjustly by the misguidance of false information or corrupt affection nor accept of the persons of the wicked for feare or favour or reward v. 2. But Defend the Poore and Fatherlesse doe Justice to the afflicted and needy v. 3. Defend poore and despised Ministers who are as Fathers having none of their Tribe as heretofore in places of Anthority as Fathers to Protect them Deliver the poore and needy out of the hand of the wicked v. 4. Deliver those that are Poore from their Poverty by supplying them with meanes of comfortable subsistance by keeping those that are not poore that the hands of the Wicked may not impoverish them and good Lord make the Rulers whom thon hast set over us Rich in Grace Heroick in Spirit to act for thee thy cause thy truth thy Church and all faithfull Pastors who feed thy flock that they may be fed with that portion which thy gratious Benificence hath provided for them FINIS