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A56109	A testimony of truth given forth by a servant of the Lord, on the behalf of the despised servants, and professors of truth, who are made partakers of the heavenly power, which shakes the earth, and makes the inhabitants of the land to tremble, who are by the scorners of this generation called Quakers against the many lyes and slanders which the devil is the chief author of, arising forth of the bottomlesse pit, and vented forth by one James Livesey a professed minister of Christ in the county of Chester, but by his fruits is plainly manifested a minister of sin, and so of his Father who begat him, and sent him forth to oppose the living truth of God : but his folly is here manifested and declared to open view, that the simple and honest hearted may turn from him and all such deceitful workers, and may learn of Christ the light of the world, that their souls may live.	Parker, Alexander, 1628-1689.	1659 (1659)	Wing P386; ESTC R5756	31,699	39

Ministers are the Ministers of Christ Answ For satisfaction of the honest hearted I shall declare who are the true Ministers of Christ that is to say such as have received perfect gifts from God freely and are made Minsters by the will of God and sent forth by his power to turn people from darkness unto light and from the power of Satan unto God who freely Minister as they have freely received who cover no mans gold silver nor apparrel but preach the word of God freely at all times and seasons as the spirit doth move and give utterance and many such there are amongst those that the scorners of this world do call Quakers who preach the Gospel of salvation freely not seeking money or maintenance and many within these few years in England by the power of this Ministry received from God have been converted from sin unto God Pr. Whether Jesus Christ have any especially designed for his work or none but himself the Prophet of his Church Answ Christ is the head of his body the Church and is the great Prophet and from him who is the head every member of the body receives nourishment and refreshment but I do own a Ministry ordained and sent forth by him for the perfecting of the Saints and for the edifying of the body until we all come into the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God unto a perfect man even to the measure and stature and fulness of Christ as I have said before Pr. When the Ministry of England began to be Anti-christian and how long it hath been so Ans The Antichristian powers of darkness hath raigned long and I question much whether ever the National Ministry of England were free from Anti-christianism though I do believe the Lord hath had many pretious people in it who in their time have stood faithful witnesses for God some have suffered death but the Ministry was never throughly purged from popery no not to this day but most things practized are Popish inventions as their Schools and Colledges where they make their Ministers little or nothing differing from the Papists Schooles and Colledges where they make their Ministers their maintenance by Tythes vicarage houses gleab lands c. even as the Papists do and many other things there are wherein they do agree so that it is hard to tell the time when it began but this I say in the night of Apostacy since the daies of the Apostles it begun Pr. What it is that renders them Antichristian taking of Tythes or what Ans Taking of Tythes is one thing that renders them so but there be many other things as their call into the Ministry and being made Ministers by the will of man and their set maintenance great sumes of mony by the year their doctrine and practices scarce any one thing is acted or done by them in all that which they call the worship of God as it was acted or done in the daies of the true Apostles and if it were so that they were found in the very practice of the Apostles yet not being led by the same spirit it is antichristian for the Christian worship was in the spirit and in the truth and all peoples nations though they may have all the words given forth from the spirit if they be not in the spirit and in the truth they be false worshipers and are Antichristian that professe Christ in words but have not the life of Christ within them more I might say as to these things but so much having been written already by others I shall proceed further only I take notice of three accusations against us that is 1. That we deny the Trinity of persons 2. The Divine authority of the Scriptures 3 And the Souls immortality to the two first I have already spoken and the Soul we say is immortal and so I leave the lyar to receive his portion in the lake of endlesse misery Rev. 21.8 Now I come to ●● particulars wherein this opposer goes about to cast an odium upon the Quakers bringing several things which he saith the Jesuites and Papists holds it seems he is well acquainted with them but what is that to the matter because the Devil believes there is a God shall not I believe truth because the Devils believes If Jesuites an I Papists Turks and Infidels hold any truth their holding of it shall not make me deny it but truth I shall own where ever I finde it and all Lyers and false accusers and that which is contrary to truth I deny but I shall come to the particulars and what concerns those whom he calls Quakers I shall speak to and what concernes the Jesuites and Papists let them answer for themselves if they will Pr. Jesuites have low base and vile thoughts of the Scripture it s with them a nose of Wax a dead letter no sufficient ground of Faith nor judge of controversies so Bellarmine c. so Quakers Ans That the Quakers have low base and vile thoughts of the Scriptures is very false and wickednesse it is to say so for we dearly own and highly prize the Scriptures and own them to be a true testimony of him who is the author and foundation of faith Christ Jesus but life is not to be found in the Scripture but in Christ who is the life and the quickning spirit who is the judge of all controversies according to the Scriptures Pr. Jesuites and Papists cries up salvation by the light and law of nature without the knowledge of Christ c. so Quakers Ans We say as I have said before salvation is by Christ who is the light of the world and lighteth every man that commeth into the world and not by the light and law of nature without the knowledge of Christ this charge is altogether false as to the Quakers as for the other let them answer for themselves Pr. Papists say the Church of England is no true Church They say the Ministry of England is antichristian and so Quakers Ans To both these I have spoken of before to which I refer the Reader Pr. Subesse Romano pontifici est de necessitate salutis No salvation for us unlesse we become Catholicks in their sence Quakers say we are all damned except we turn Quakers Ans We say this and it is no more then truth that except ye repent and be converted ye must all perish But as for the words as they are laid down they proceed from the wickednesse of his evil heart and are not true our way is Christ and this is the way of holinesse and is but one and there is none other and to this way must all come that are saved and must know trembling and quaking before all wickednesse be thrown down and truth and righteousnesse be set up therefore let none despise the power of God least ye be cut of in his feirce wrath Pr. Jesuits allow women to do the worke of the Ministry

A TESTIMONY OF TRUTH Given forth by a Servant of the Lord on the behalf of the despised servants and professors of truth who are made partakers of the heavenly Power which shakes the earth and makes the Inhabitants of the Land to tremble who are by the scorners of this Generation called Quakers against the many lyes and slanders which the Devil is the chief author of arising forth of the bottomlesse pit and vented forth by one James Livesey a professed Minister of Christ in the County of Chester but by his fruits is plainly manifested a Minister of sin and so of his Father who begat him and sent him forth to oppose the living truth of God but his folly is here manifested and declared to open view that the simple and honest hearted may turn from him and all such deceitful workers and may learn of Christ the light of the World that their souls may live Blessed are yee when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsly for my sake rejoyce and be exceeding glad for great is your reward in Heaven for so persecuted they the Prophets which were before you Mat. 5.11 12. For as concerning this Sect we know that every where it is spoken against Acts 18.22 But this I confesse that after the way which they call heresie so worship I the God of my Fathers Acts 24.14 Truth was formerly called a Sect and the way of God heresie by formal professors Therefore let none be deceived with vain words and flying reports But prove all things and hold fast that which is good 1 Thes 5.21 A. Parker LONDON Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1659. THe Almighty wise God hath according to his promise declared by his holy Prophets and Apostles appeared in these last dayes and hath caused his light to shine forth which hath not onely discovered and manifested the deceits of the serpent and all the deceitful workers in all their deceivablenesse and cunning craftinesse whereby they have long lain in wait to deceive and many have been deceived and led away from the light which should have given unto them the true knowledge of the Mysteries of God and of those things that doth pertain unto life and peace I say the Lord our God hath not onely revealed the Mystery of iniquity but hath also to the glory and praise of his great Name revealed and in a great measure discovered the mystery of truth which is glorious and precious even that same Truth which in ages and generations past hath been the stay and comfort of Gods people and was their joy and refreshment and did uphold them in the time of their tryals and troubles which from the beginning of times ever since the fall of man hath been gain-said and opposed by the seed of evil doers and those who have from time to time born a true testimony for the truth who lived in the truth they have been reviled and reproached and suffered many and great afflictions in the world chiefly from those who have had a name and an outward profession of God but lived out of the life of God such have been the enemies of God and of his Truth and also of his Messengers and servants who have been true witnesses of Truth as the scriptures of Truth do largely testifie all along to which I refer thee that may read this to search and try and as it was then in the dayes of old even so it is now he that is born after the flesh doth persecute him that is born after the spirit and it cannot be otherwise for there can be no agreement between light and darknesse between Christ and Antichrist but enmity and discord waring and fighting one against the other and so as we are made partakers according to our several measures of that life of Righteousnesse which the Saints the people of God were made partakers of so we are made sharers and partakers with them of the like sufferings and this we do account to be our joy and great riches and do rejoyce in Christ that we are of that number who suffer for Righteousnesse sake well knowing that according as it is written all that will live godly in Jesus Christ shall suffer persecution Now it being so that the most high God in his dear love in Christ Jesus having visited this Nation with mercy from on high even in a time when many were wallowing in their blood and even past hope of recovery the Nation being over-run with wickedness even then did God appear and rent the thick vail which had long been over many and caused his light to shine out of obscurity and uttered forth his voyce in great power and raised up many from the grave and restored them to life again who had been dead in trespasses and sins reviving them by his quickning power and brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel and revealed the great mysteries of his Kingdom which hath been hid from the worldly wise even from the beginning of time which is Christ in us the hope of glory who was revealed and manifested in the true Christians in the primitive times This was their Priviledge they were made partakers of life eternal and translated out of the kingdom of darknes into the Kingdom of the Dear Son of God they had the true light in them the word of life was in them by which they were sanctified and made holy and their bodies were Temples of God and God and Christ dwelt in them and spake in them and wrought all their works for them and in them and so by the cords of pure love they were drawn neer unto God who sometimes were afar off and their unity was in the spirit for they were written in one anothers hearts with the spirit of the living God but since those dayes there hath been a great darkness over the Nations and that Christian beauty of love meeknesse patience humility c. hath been marred and stained by the deformed spots of envy wrath rashnesse impatiency pride covetousnesse and the like and though many have retained and kept the name of Christianity yet the life and nature hath been wanting as the true light hath made it manifest for after these many years of profession and these glorious and fair pretences God is coming to view the fields and to see what fruits may be reaped in this Nation and Nations and behold a great crop of corruption may be reaped but no fruits from the good ground is brought forth which hath grieved the good spirit of God and now is he arisen as a man of War in dread and fury and will pour forth the Vialls of his wrath upon the man of Sin and will bring deliverance and hath brought deliverance unto his people and this we testifie that God is light and is appearing in the power of light to manifest and destroy sin and bring in everlasting

righteousness and this is no new truth but the same as ever even that which was from the beginning which is the same to day and for ever and unto that which all people have erred from is the Lord now bringing them back again unto that they may have union with him in spirit and worship him in spirit and in truth and this is the worship that we own and the true faith which is the gift of God which we are made partakers of which purifies the heart and gives victory over the world and the lusts and pollutions of it and for this faith and no other do we contend against all opposers and gainsayers as many we have met withall within these few years in this Nation of England since the glorious light of truth did shine forth but over them all the truth doth reigne and shall reigne and the Lamb shall have the victory And amongst the many opposers who have appeared by word and writing against the truth I have lately seen a book given forth by one James Lives●y a Parish Priest in Cheshire who hath vomited forth a great de●l of silthy stuff like smoke from the bottomless pit which darkens the aire and blinds the eyes of some people there away and causes them to stumble at the appearance of truth Now for the truths sake and for their sakes who love it I am made free to write some few things to the chief points or heads in the said book for the manifesting and laying open deceit and removing the stumbling-blocks out of the way of the simple as for my own particular I am satisfied and I know many more in this Nation who have received of the fulness of God and have drunk of the sweet and pleasant streams that have sprung from the Fountain of Sion and have received satisfaction and can no longer drink of the dury muddy filthy streams that springs from the well head of Babylon nor can any longer trade with the deceitful Merchants of Babylon for the day of her calamity is come and the Lord is discovering the witchcraft and sorcery of her Merchants unto thousands is this Nation and other parts who can buy her Merchandize no more but to come to the matter in hand and the first things I meet with in the Book aforesaid in the first page are some reliques or remainders of some old wares which this Merchant of Babylon hath taken back again from something formerly sold by him which he casts in to fill up the measure of the other which he hath compacted together to make sale of which I may passe over and come to the matter and its possible when the Merchandize is opened I may find some of these reliques and may return them back again with the other deceitful wares unto this Merchant of Babylon for the Children of Sion loaths them and will no longer buy them Pr. Is the written word Gods Answ The written words or sayings of the holy men of God so far as they are not corrupted in the translations I own to be a true testimony or declaration of the eternal word and being given forth from the moving of the spirit they are good they are words of God and dearly owned and prized by us and were given forth to be read believed practised and fulfilled but He cannot be written with pen or ink whose Name is called the word of God Pr Then in the next place what ever humane doctrines or opinions you meet with which thwart contradict or oppose the written word reject Answ We who fear God and are led and guided by the spirit of God which leadeth into all truth we do not act things contradictory to the Scriptures though to dark understandings something may be so judged as sometimes in the dayes past the chief Priest and great professors Judged the Ministers Christ who denyed the outward commandments and shadows of the Law which were commands of God written in the Scriptures as the Temple Sabbath circumcision Priests tythes osterings and the like and brought people to the guidings and leadings of the holy spirit and the holy unction within them but the Priests of England do act things invented by humane wisdom and that which doth oppose and contradict plain Scriptures as first their carnal and man-made Ministry being brought up at Schools and Colledges and so made Ministers in and by the will of man contrary to Paul who neither received it of man neither was he taught it but by the Revelation of Jesus Christ Gal 1.1.11.12.15.16 2 Their man-made Churches which God never commanded to be built in the Gospel ministration but on the contrary said God that made the World and all things therein seeing he is Lord of Heaven and earth dwelleth not in Temples made with hands c. 3. Their carnal call by ringing of bells 4. their standing praying in the high places there and being called of men Master contrary to the plain words of Christ Mat. 23. who saith unto his true Ministers be not ye called of men Master c. 5. Their long prayers and studied Sermons as they call them their singing of Davids experiences in Rhime and Meter which they doth not witnesse in themselves nor hearers their sprinkling of Infants an invention of man never commanded by Christ nor practised by his Apostles their yearly set and forced maintenance and many other things are done and acted by the Priests of England which doth contradict and oppose plain Scriptures and they have no example for such practices but are humane inventions and therefore we do deny them and turn from them and testisie against them and know assuredly that God will overturn them The next thing I meet with is a saying of Austin which the Priest brings which makes nothing for his purpose but is altogether against the end for which it is alleadged for Austin speaks there of the teachings of Christ and labours to bring from the teachings of men the words are these nec tu me nec ego te sed ambo Christum audi veritatem loquentum audi Christum dicentem neither hear thou me nor will I hear thee but let both of us hear Christ hear the truth speaking hear Christ teaching the words are sound and good for all flesh is to be silent and Christ must speak in male and female Ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me saith Paul 2 Cor. 13.3 And the anointing which ye have received of him abides in you saith John and ye need not that any man teach you but as the same anointing teacheth you 1 John 2.27 which teachings of Christ Austin in this place speakes of which this opposer Livesey would apply to the Scriptures without and so pervert his words above mentioned But the words of Austin do not bear such a sense as Christ speaking in the Scripture but hear Christs teaching and so let him that hath an ear to hear hear what the Spirit saith Pr. Furthermore I find a Scripture quoted Isay

8.20 To the Law and to the Testimony c. Ans To which I say the Law is light and was written in the heart and the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophesie which spirit is a discerner and a tryer of Doctrines and opinions but that the Scriptures themselves are the touchstone and tryer without the spirit I deny I put it upon Livesey truths opposer to prove but to give a little light to the people who do not understand aright this I say that in tryal of things and spirits there is three things to be considered of that is the tryer and the thing tryed and the Rule to try by Now if I grant the Scriptures to be a rule yet a blind man cannot see them nor walk according to them so that whosoever doth Judge of things or go about to try spirits if he have not the spirit of God in his own particular he cannot try nor Judge aright whereas he speaks of conscience being Regula regulata non regula regulans I say the conscience is not the rule but the light or spirit of God which exercises the conscience towards God man that is the true rule for as many as are the Sons of God they are led by the spirit of God Pr. And whereas he further saith It may not be unseasonable nor unprofitable to give you of this Congregation a short draught of some opinions owned and maintained by the Quakers A. To which I say in the fear of God I declare unto you who are hearers of the said Livesey that to hear a lyar and a false accuser is both unseasonable unprofitable and hear him so long as you will you shall never be profited by him nor converted to God for being out of the Counsel of God himself he cannot bring others unto God and that he is a lyer and a false accuser I shall make it plainly manifest as I come to his charges against those people for I have read over his Book or Papers and I find a great heap of filthy stuff for wanting matter wherewithall to accuse he himself layes a false foundation and then goes to build inventing lies and false things and calls them the Quakers opinions and so heaps a great deal of stuff together and to colour his deceit gathers up several texts of Scriptures and makes a great noise as though he had confuted the Quakers opinions when indeed it is nothing but his own lies and inventions that he hath confuted like unto a distracted man creating imaginations and then fights with his own created images as this opposer doth as I shall make it manifest in due time and so that which he casts upon the Quakers will justly fall upon his own head for where envy lying and false accusing is that Religion is not of God but to turn back his own words is a mellany of froth filth vanity and villanie lies and lewdness errors Heresies and blasphemies which they have invented and through covetousness and love of money have deceived the Nations long with which grieves the hearts of the righteous but the Lord in due time will throw down Babylon and mar all her Wars and spoil all her Merchants and the great Whore which hath made all Nations drunk with the cup of her fornication shall be cast upon a bed of sorrow and all who have committed whoredom with her shall drink the cup of fury and indignation of God and the Beast and false prophets which have deceived the Nations shall be cast into a lake of fire burning with Brimstone But I shall be as short as I may have liberty from the Lord and come to his charges and accusations against those whom he calls Quakers and the first is this Pr. There is an opinion amongst them that salvation is attainable without Jesus Christ Answ That is a wicked lie I detest and abhor that spirit that uttered forth those words there is no such opinion among us who are scornfully called Quakers we profess salvation by Jesus Christ and not by any other thing or things for of our selves we are not able to think a good thought nor speak a good word nor do a good deed but our strength and sufficiency is in Christs and Christ is in us the hope of our glory and by him are we saved and made free from the devils bondage and slavery and from lying and slandering and it it Christ in us that works our works and enables us to perform and do his will and we are Gods workmanship Created in Christ Jesus unto good works and so I testifie that salvavation is attainable in Christ and not without him and that lying spirit in Priest Livesey I do deny and this is his foundation upon which he builds and the foundation being a lie and rottenness the building cannot stand Gods vengeance and wrath is kindied and all lyars and deceitful covetous hireling Priests shall be as stubble before the fire and the Lake is the lyars portion Rev. 21.8 as for the Soriptures mentioned by him I own them in their place and they stand a testimony against the lyar and false acculer and such denies Christ though in words they professe him so let every one who hears or read these lines examine your selves whether or no you be in Christ and Christ be in you for except Jesus Christ be in you ye are Reprobates 2 Cor. 13.5 Pr. There is an opinion amongst them that the Scripture is not the word of God Answ The Scriptures of Moses and the Prophets Christ and the Apostles are words of God a Declaration of the things of God and they testifie of Him whose Name is balled the Word God Rev. 19.13 Pr. There is an opinion among them that every man coming into the world hath in him and connatural to him a saving light Ans As this is laid down it is false invented in a false deceitful deceived heart manifesting his wickedness that gave it sorth But for the satisfaction of the upright I shall declare the truth and that is this we say that Jesus Christ is the light of the world and so it is written in the Scripture Joh. 8 12. and he lighteth every man that cometh into the world according to to the testimony of Joh. 1.9 and though darkness may be over the Nations yet light shineth in darkness but the darkness doth not comprchend the light and this light is a manifestation of the fathers love in Jesus Christ and is Gods true and faithful witness which reproves in secret for sin and evil and doth make it manifest in the heart and conscience and reproves him or her that acts and commits it and that which reproves and makes sin manifest is light as it is written all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light for whatsoever makes manifest is light Ephes 5.13 this light is the key that opens the door where the heavenly treasure is and no man or woman in the world

all others for as the perfection of ancient times under the Law was not to forswear so the perfection of Christian men is not to swear at all And whereas this opposer that I have to deal with brings a Scripture out of the Prophets Jer. 4.2 and thou shalt swear the Lord liveth in truth c. I say this doth not at all make void the sayings of Christ because he is the end of the Prophets who saith swear not at all and whatever other Scripture may be alleadged it is not at all contradictory because Christ the Son is greater then Moses he raigns over the house of Jacob and Joseph who swore in their day Solomon swore but a greater then Solomon is here And whereas the Prophet saith thou shalt swear by the Lord this was to bring them off from all false oaths not to swear by Baal nor other false Gods but they were in those days to swear by the Lord but Christ is come as I have said who is the great Prophet who ends all oathes And whereas it is alleadged that an oath is an end of strife and therefore to be used saith this opposer But I say that whosoever doth bring that Scripture in Heb. 6.17 to maintain swearing contrary to Christ his command they pervert the Scripture for the Authour to the Hebrewes doth not speak there to prove an oath lawful at that time but he is speaking of God making a promise to Abraham and because he could swear by no greater he swore by himself saying Surely blessing I will bless thee and multiplying I will multiply thee and so after he had patiently endured he obtained the promise for men verily swear by the greater and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife the Apostle doth not bring this in opposition to Christ but speaking concerning God who swore by himself concerning his promise and giving his Son Christ who ends the strife and this I further say that those that be in strife and oathes they have not learned Christ one Scripture more I shall add as a confirmation against swearing and that is in Jam. 5.12 but above all things my brethren swear not neither by heaven neither by the earth neither by any other oath mark all oathes are forbidden but let your yea be yea and your nay nay least ye fall into condemnation Pr. There is an opinion amongst them that singing of Psalms is no Gospel ordinance especially not to be used in mixt Assemblies Answ This is false for singing of Psalms according to the Scriptures we own singing with the spirit and with understanding making melody in our hearts to the Lord according to those Scriptures Col. 3.16 Ephes 5.19 And whereas another Scripture is alleadged Jam 5.13 if any be afflicted let him pray is any merry let him sing Psalms this is owned by us but the question will be who are they that are truly merry I say that none are truly merry but the ransomed of the Lord who have passed through many tribulations and fiery tryals whose garments are washed with the blood of the Lamb such shall return to Sion with joy and singing and everlasting joy shall be upon their heads But the songs of the wicked shall be turned into howling and weeping and such we do deny and all such as take Davids words a man after Gods own heart and turn them into Rhime and Meeter and a company of mixt people of proud ones covetous envyous wrathful scoffing and scornful ones for such as these to sing Davids experiences his prayers and prophesies his weenings wastings roarings cryings tremblings and such like this is a great wickedness to speak Davids words and say O Lord I am not puft in mind I have no scornful eye I do not exercise my self in things that be too high c. when both Priest and people are proud and scornful such singing we do deny and as sure as God lives it shall be turned into howling and weeping and bitter lamentation Pr. There is an opinion among them that the spirit is the rule they ought to walk by the spirit is our guide teacher and leader Answ That which was the Rule and guide of the people of God before the Scriptures were written and their rule and guide that writ the Scriptures is our Rule and guide now and that was the spirit of God which led and guided them in the way and truth of God and it is written in the Prophets all the children of the Lord shall be taught of the Lord and this was the promise of Christ to send the Comforter the spirit of truth which should lead and guide them into all truth and this is according to the Scriptures and stands over the head of all gain-sayers and opposers but this is so plain that no reasonable man will gainsay it for as many as are led by the Spirit of God are the Sons of God Pr. There is an opinion amongst them that the Trinity of persons is a lie and that there are not three persons in the God head Answ What the Spirit of the Lord doth own we own and what is written in the Scriptures by the motion of the spirit we own There is three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word and the holy Spirit and these three are One and this we own as for three persons I have not read of such a thing in the Scriptures God is an incomprehensible spirit and is but One Father Son and Spirit three in manifestation but all one in power one God over all blessed for ever Pr. There is an opinion amongst them that the Ministry of England is Antichristian and our Ministers no Ministers of Jesus Christ. Ans 1. Such as are brought up at Schools and Colledges and there learn Aristotles moral and Philosophical Arts and sciences and there take certain degrees and orders as Batchelor of Art Master of Art Batchelor of Divinity Doctor of Divinity and the like and are trained up there certain years and so made Ministers in and by the will of man such are Antichristian but such are the Ministers of England therefore no Ministers of Christ Ans 2. Such as make contracts and bargains with people for certain set stipends and great sums of money as 80.100 200 300. pounds or more or less by the year and will not preach without money such are Antichristian but such are the Ministers of England therefore not the Ministers of Christ Ans 3. Such as denies the Doctrine of perfection the life of pure Religion the work and end of the Christian Ministry Eph. 4.11.12 13. Col. 1.27.28 29. and say that none can be perfect or free from sin while they walk upon the earth but must alwayes live in sin and sin in them such a Ministry is Antichristian But such are the Ministers of England therefore not the Ministers of Jesus Christ Pr. I would gladly know if the Ministers of England be not the Ministers of Christ what

c. Quakers allow womens preaching as spiritual Ans God hath spoken by his holy prophet saying it shall come to passe in the latter daies that I will pour forth of my spirit upon my Sons and daughters upon my servants and handmaids and where the spirit of God is there is liberty it is not to be quenched neither in Son nor daughter where the seed is witnessed either in male or female to wit Christ who is one in the female as well as in the male and where he rules and reignes he may and ought to speak and this is according to Scriptures but let the woman be silent as saith the Scripture Pr. Papists look upon miracles as signes of the true Church so Quakers Ans This is but the mans imagination because he would have ●o●ething to say as for miracles I do not look for them but if any by the power and spirit of God do work miracles as some have done among us we do own it and give God the honour whose work and power it is and not any work of the creature Pr. Papists put a high esteem on visions and Revelations equalling them with or preferring them above the written Word so Quakers Ans True visions and true Revelations seen and revealed by the true spirit I must needs own if a Turk or infidel should professe the truth it s no worse for their professing of it And so I say that which is revealed by the same spirit which was within them that gave forth the Scripture is one and the same with the Scriptreu for the Truth is the same yesterday to day and for ever Pr. The Jesuites say a man may be saved if he will if he will follow the light c. and the Quakers Ans I have formerly answered to this point yet this further I say the saving power is not in mans will but in Christ the light and whosoever believes in and followes the light shall be saved and he that believes not but followes his own will shall be damned Pr. The Papists extenuate imputed Righteousnesse in setting up their own Inherent Righteeusnesse so Quakers Ans All our own Righteousnesse is as filthy rags and we do not set it up but deny it together with all unrighteousnesse but we exalt and set up Christ who of God is made unto us Righteousnesse Justification Redemption and all other things who dwels in us and is our life and we in him and have our peace Pr. Papists say they can keep all Gods commandements perfectly fulfill the law in their own persons so Bell and the Quakers Ans Through the strength and power of Christ that dwels in us we can do all things and his commandements are not grievous but joyous to us and Christ doth fulfill the Righteousnesse of the Law in us who walk● not after the flesh but after the spirit and whosoever saith he knowes God and keeps not his commandents is a lyar and the truth is not in him Pr. The Church Papists hold that their Church is infallible which at last is the Pope so Quakers Ans We do not hold the Pope to be the Church neither do we believe the Pope to be infallible any more then the Priests and Church of England Pr. Jesuits say there is no foundation for Insants Baptism in the written word Pr. The Jesuites say baptism is of mans institution so Quakers Ans We are bold to affirme it and say there is no command nor example nor practice in the Scripture for Infants baptism it is an invention of man and I lay it upon all the Priests of England and Papists and all who practice it to bring me a proof of it from the Scriptures or else confesse their sin in doing that which was never commanded nor by any of the Ministers of Christ practised Pr. Jesuites make their Pope a God c. Quakers make themselves Gods curse men damn them to Hell Ans It seemes this Priest is wholly given up to the Devil in venting forth so many and grosse wicked lyes we do not make our selves Gods but denie our selves and take up the Crosse and and follow Christ But we do witnesse that God dwels in us and we never curse men nor damn them to Hell but we testifie against sin which if not forsaken and repented of will lead men to Hell for the wages of sin is death Pr. Jesuites call us heriticks dogs c. and the Quakers calls us the brood of Cain Baals Priests false prophets Seducers c Ans They that are envious and wrathful are of Cains generation and off spring and if we find any of the priests of England in that nature we must tell them the truth it is no other language then what the spirit of the Lord hath given to deceivers and false prophets in times past and the priests of England being found in the same steps and covetous practices we do them no wrong to give them their right names Pr. Papists place most in external observations seeming authority so Quakers Ans The lyar will arive at Hell at last when he hath filled up his measure once more I testifie that we do not place most in outward things but in Christ is our strength who works in us to will and to do of his good pleasure Pr. Papists prefer Jeromes version of the Bible before the Hebrew and the Greek so Fox and others deny Greek and Hebrew to be the original preferring the English Ans Where did ever this opposer hear Fox and others speak of preferring the English before the Greek and Hebrew the English we own in its place and so Hebrew and Greek but not any of these Languages can open the mysteries of God therefore let all flesh be silent before the Lord and let God alone be exalted Pr. The Jesuits cast off prayer to God and pray to Saints c. Quakers have cast off prayer to God when do they pray in their families meetings c. Ans H●re is a Charge and a question laid down the charge is that Quakers have left off praying to God Now if the Quakers have not left off prayer to God then Ia. Livesey is a lyar but they have not left off prayer to God as thousands in this Nation can testifie but pray often both in their meetings and in their families as the spirit of God doth move and guide them therefore is Livesey a lyar Pr. The Jesuites say that the Empire of learning is within the heritage of the Jesuits so Quakers say we are in darknesse all our eyes are out theirs onely open A. Every tree is known by his fruits so we say of the Priests of England after all their talking and profession and having received so much mony see what may be reaped in their fields even a great Crop of corruption pride and covetousnesse reigning in themselves and what can be expected to be brought forth in people but like Priest like people wandring astray like sheep without a