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A71285 The infallibility of the Roman Catholick church and her miracles, defended against Dr. Stillingfleets cavils, unworthily made publick in two late books, the one called An answer to several treatises, &c., the other A vindication of the Protestant grounds of faith, against the pretence of infallibility in the Roman church, &c. / by E.W. ; the first part. E. W. (Edward Worsley), 1605-1676. 1674 (1674) Wing W3615; ESTC R21280 182,231 392

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