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A95867 Tvvo sermons preached: one before the Right Honorable House of Lords, on their publick fast, May 26. 1647. The other, before the Honorable House of Commons, on their publick fast, in Margarets Church in Westminster, Septemb. 29. 1647. / By Thomas Valentine one of the Assembly of Divines, and minister in Chalfort in the county of Bucks. Valentine, Thomas, 1585 or 6-1665? 1647 (1647) Wing V27; Thomason E409_13; ESTC R204423 15,835 24

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Laodiceans and that they should reade the Epistle from Laodicea Col. 4.16 Therefore they had ordinances and we cannot conceive but that they were pure for those times did not admit of impuritie in the Ordinances of Christ We cannot thinke they wanted Officers for the Apostles would looke to that in all the Churches nor can we imagine they wanted Discipline and Government a Church Constituted so early in the first day of the Gospell could not but be well erected And in the reproofe of this Church they are not taxed for want of these or any of them nay they write to Paul as Calvin thinks and if there had beene such a defect in their Church the Epistle to the Colossians would not have supplyed that want for it speakes nothing of Government and he gives order it should be communicated to them Therefore according to the tenor and scope of the charge brought against this Church we may safely say that their graces and gifts were not so good so rich so right as should have beene for their works are challenged vers 15. I know thy workes and their zeale was not good it was not hot enough Therefore I thinke the constitution of the members of their Church was not good they were not zealous not fervent in spirit and if that be a heat arising from many graces or if but one yet a defect therein proves a want and decay in others so that their graces were not golden but rather copper and Laodicea being a rich Citie and dealing in Merchandize they might rather looke after the materiall gold and after pure raiment for the body then these golden and silver graces The Chuch in the Constitution of it might be good yet the members resting in their Church-priviledges and in the abundance of outward things might be wanting in their graces the doctrine of faith might be pure and sound and yet the grace of faith might not be good and saving in them their worship might be pure and yet they not zealous for that God they worshipped In this great house of the Church of Laodicea the members many of them were not vessells of gold and silver but of wood and earth 2 Tim. 2.20 therefore they are justly reproved Other things might be faultie in this Church but I name this as being cleare and it will make way for our better instruction Let us begin with some Observations and first you may see plainly in your view from the beginning of the Text this to be offered 1. Observ That the Lord Jesus Christ doth not alwaies command like a King but sometimes counsells like a Friend We read in Ephesi 3.10 of the manifold wisedome of God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 multiformis sapientia a wisedome that hath many faces and lookes variously sometimes God speakes like a King and sometimes like a Judge and sometimes like a Friend In precepts Authoritie in reproofes Anger in threatnings Severitie in counsells Love and care of our good most appeares To counsell one it is to propound something to his consideration that is fit for him to thinke of and usefull for him to doe and it supposeth some principles in a man whereby he is counselable and there is nothing to which we are counselled but the same things are also commanded onely the manner is more taking and the matter must be of importance else we take it not into consideration Prov. 22.20 Have I not written unto thee excellent things in counsells and knowledge To counsell us First It is a rationall way and fit to worke upon a man and God that tryes alwaies to doe us good takes this course to counsell us Hos 11.4 I have drawn thee with cords of a man and bands of love I have dealt with thee more human● for man is counselable but so is not a beast coge pecus you force a beast but man is to be perswaded speake reason and expresse love and you cannot be despised or sleighted reason cannot be gain-sayed though the man will not confesse he is conquered by your argument yet the understanding secretly must assent and love cannot be contemned the partie may but love cannot but when the Wise God shall speake reason and manifest his love we should not despise his counsell Nay many joyne together in this coonsell so the word imports 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to counsell with others 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 consilium quod aliqui simul ineunt God counsells you his Spirit counsells you his Messengers counsell you and your owne Consciences counsell you For as 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is a knowing together so 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is conselling together divers sit in counsell together about the good of man and hereby it appeares how we should esteeme of the kindnesse of God the word is Mat. 12.14 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 they held a counsell that was against Christ but the blessed Trinitie hold a counsell for the good of man Let us make man let us redeeme man and advise him for his good Secondly It is very fit and proper for the action of buying you shall not be compelled to buy the Commodities here offered but you shall use your reason whether a poore man should not doe all he can to get good gold and a naked man clothing But here I must needs explain this point lest we should thinke that a man were left to his owne liberty in the point of his conversion and this simile of counselling to buy must not be extended beyond the scope and we say That the will of man is over-ruled and over-powred by the Spirit of Christ so as it cannot but come in upon the offer of grace and the will is determined to one thing not left to it selfe to take or refuse what is tendered to it and it is no absurditie whatever Arminians thinke to say in the conversion of a sinner there is a violence offered to the corruption of the will and yet the will not wronged a suspending of the libertie of the will and no destroying of it If you consider a man affrighted out of his sinnes in a way of terrour as the Gaoler Act. 16.29 who came trembling you may say he could doe no other Suppose a man pursued by a Beare or any ravenous Beast if he have the use of his leggs and of his reason he cannot but runne away from the danger Hell frights the sinner Conscience flyes in his face and he cannot but come to Christ The propensitie and act of the creature may be suspended and not destroyed the Lyons could not devoure Daniel the fire could not burne the three young men God did suspend the act of those creatures but their natures were not destroyed for their enemies found the Lyons to be fierce and the fire to burne the will of man chooseth to come and cannot doe otherwise for it is moved and guided by a supernaturall power Thirdly God doth counsell us for in all things of any importance we take counsell here is