Selected quad for the lemma: spirit_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
spirit_n	pray_v	prayer_n	supplication_n	6,912	5	11.1562	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A85698	A relation of a disputation between Dr Griffith and Mr Vavasor Powell. And since some false observations made thereon, by Dr Griffith (or one of his symonicall brethren) to keep up the crack'd credit of their bad calling and cause. As also to reflect upon Mr Moston (whom they suppose to be the author of that relation) Mr Powell, and others. This therefore is to shew briefly the falsitie of those animadversions: and withall to justifie that syllogisme (objected against by him) by good authors, examples and arguments.	Griffith, George, 1601-1666.	1653 (1653)	Wing G1998; Thomason E686_1	11,644	16

fallacie it was and whether in dictione or extra dictionem which argued Mr Powell was not ignorant in the Moodes and Figures nor in those Elements of Arts which I heard him use severall times both publiquely and privately which Question the Doctor could not and did not answer which made Mr Powell say how now Doctors what a man of so many fallacies yet ignorant of this fallacy Page 10. There was some talke of making Red-Castle an Universitie And yet in Page 11. You say that they must take this notice from you as from a Promoter That the Separatists are upon disclaiming all Interests in Arts and Universities and Schollers Behold a palpable contradiction and the two next neighbouring Pages confronting one another What to be for Universities and yet against them Nonne es in puteo constrictus Doctor If we had been against learning we would not have sent to Oxford and Cambridge for Preachers and School-Masters nor sent some thither to be made Schollers as we have done By this you may guesse the truth of the rest Page 11. On this passage I ground my Conjecture I spake of concerning the Author of the Exact Narrative Answ By severall passages in these Animadversions it may be more surely concluded that Doctor Griffith himselfe was the Author of them then Mr Moston of the Narrative But be it Mr Moston or another its certaine the Narrative in the Substance of it is true and if all the Circumstances had been set downe it would more have galled and sham'd the Doctor as how he comming strutting with a band of prophane men with him that thirty or forty of the scum of two or three Countries might have been pick'd out and his countenance falling like Nabals hearts and feare surprizing him like Beltashazzar by reason of the Consciousnesse of his cause and the convictions of his Conscience in appearing against Gods people and wayes as was told him by Mr Powell then now I see that Scripture fulfilled Isai 29. 10. He shall cover the Seers Page 11. I trouble you with no more of the sylly non-sence meaning Mr Mostons good sence he understands speakes and writes as good sence as any of you your bookes and stoln self-stuff'd Sermons will all verifie the Confession of one of your brethren that hath since left Preaching to attend upon your Pamphlet-Presse I am a pen and inckhorne Divine If Mr Mostons savoury solid spirituall Sermons were compared with your slight superstitious supercilious self-exalting and sinner-hardning Sermons they that did reade them would say What is the chaffe to the wheate Jer. 23. 28. But you say Page 12. One Orthodox true Sermon is more set by now then a hundred heretofore Such is the famine of the Word First Your Sermons and opinions are like Mr Alexander Griffths your great Master-Minter who did the last of September 1652. at Kinton in Hertfordshire before many hundreds deliver publiquely in a Sermon this Doctrine from Jude 13. That the Church and Parishes of England were Saints and the Faith was delivered to them also that all England were Saints and godly people and then in his disputation did affirme from 1 Pet. 3.19 That Christ in his Soule went locally to hell to preach to the damned Spirits Afterwards from Matth. 13. He affirmed there was no Separation at all till the end of the world tho he had before graunted it but that Heathen Jewes Turkes Papists Protestants and all were to live without any Separation to the end of the world Betwixt your Doctrine and his there is onely pilus in medio Secondly Is there a famine of the Word the more shame for you and your brethren to follow that principle No penny no pater noster but this is your false suggestion for it is knowne and acknowledged by the very Enemies of the Truth that they never had more preaching for at least in this County of Montgomery there is weekly preached about sixty Sermons But you say 't is prating So did the Epicureans and Stoicks your Brethren say of Pauls preaching Acts 17. 18. But we must ssay as Joh. 3. Ep v. 10. You prate maliciously against us Multa stulta loquuntur loquimini Page 12. I will help you and so he did Mr Powell told you then he would not seeke your help and I heard him presently reduce and repeate the Syllogisme ever the Doctor repeated it and this may be said for Mr Powell that he intended not as he then before and after declared to be opponent against the Doctors calling but respondent for his owne and I saw all his arguments were framed to that purpose and what ever argument he urged against the Doctors Calling he was constrained to forme them extempore for unlesse Mr Powell would dispute against his Calling he would not goe on but as soone as his Calling and conditions were brought to light Murem ostendit pro Leone Page 13. That Mr Powell offered not any proofe against that formes were against the gift Yes Sir by your bad memories good leave Mr Powell urged Ephes 6. 18. Praying alwayes with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit From whence he argued thus If all prayers are in the Spirit then the formes of meere mens makings without the Spirit as yours are doth exclude the gift But the Text saith that all prayers are to be in the Spirit Ergo. The Doctor after long pausing puffing and some prompting said there was a fallacy in the argument Mr Powell asked him what fallacy it was and whether in dictione or extra dictionem as is heretofore mentioned the Doctor gave no Answer remembring better his ten yeares used forme then Logicall fallacies And hereupon the Doctor answering nothing but being amaz'd denying somewhat if he knew what Mr Powell asked him a reason of his deniall This is the summe of what the Doctor doth now doe largely with his pen in Page 14. what he could not doe then with his tongue And truly Reader these men can eate their meate without their teeth as soone as give thankes either before or after meate without a forme Oh but of the Doctors personall qualification he hath given sufficient testimony by his praying in true Latine Hath he so Sir your principle do's speake you to be a neighbour to a Papist if not to have a Pope in your belly Againe if this be a qualification to pray a formall prayer in Latine Westminster Schoole boyes are equall with your Doctor nay an old Popish toothlesse woman may use a formall Latine prayer but it seemes the Gentlemen conceives none of this Opponents could doe so much but Sir know tho that may be your Master-piece that more then one of your Antagonists can pray and write in Latine and Greeke c. Page 14. You should have said that Powell Moston and Nevet had nothing to say They had said so much that it caused whispering between the Doctor and his Cassack Counsell what they should answer at last the Doctors Councel one of the