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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A44785	Darknesse and ignorance Expelled by the light shining forth, and the appearance of the day. In answer to a book called, Innocents no saints. Published by one Edward Dodd, wherein he hath laboured to prove tythes lawfull, and tithing priests and hirelings to be the ministers of the word, and the masse-house the church; and calls idolatry civility, and heathenish complements courtesie, and hath perverted many Scriptures. His deceit laid open, his vindication made void, and his arguments confounded, and Truth laid open in all these particulars, for the sake of the upright in heart, who rejoyces in Truths prosperity. By one of the lambs followers, who makes warre against the heart of the dragon, and against the rear of the beast. F.H.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.	1659 (1659)	Wing H3156; ESTC R215412	21,256	31

place Doth not his presence fill heaven and earth Is he divided from his presence But may be thou wilt say as thy generation doth that ●e is in the Earth by his spirit and in Heaven in his body or person distinct from his spirit If so then you divide Christ and a person without a spirit and not Christ I will aske thee a question No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came downe from heaven the Sonne of man which is in heaven Where was the Sonne of man or the man Christ when this was spoken If thou canst see this thou mayst be ashamed to shut Christ out of the Earth or from among his Saints where his presence his arme his hand and his power is which is not divided from his body but I know thou art deafe and canst not heare what I say and thou bringst Heb. 10. 12. After he had offered one sacrifice sate downe at the right hand of God that is sayst thou In his humane nature The shame is come upon thy selfe who have added thy owne imagination and let all see whether the Scripture speak of humane nature but thy folly must be manifest to all Thy third Particular that thou names and as thou sayest shames is If wee say wee are without sinne we deceive our selves Thou hadst better have enquired perfectly whether we said so or no before thou hadst undertook to reprove upon so doubtfull termes and thou bringst Prov. 20. 9. For who can say my heart is clean He can say so and speaks truth whose heart God hath cleansed by the blood of Christ from all sinne And then thou bringst Job 9. 20. If I justifie my selfe my owne mouth shall condemn me That 's true we justifie not our selves neither selfe but denies selfe and selfe is condemned and Christ Gods righteousnesse is become our Justification And then thou bringest Paul Phil. 3. Not as though I had already attained but follow after that I may apprehend What of that he was in his growth and was come to that which was perfect and did believe to attain to the stature of a perfect man And then thou saith I tell you you are not perfect your contempt of the Ministers of Christ and perverting the Doctrine of Christ are Characters of sin That shall stand for thy selfe and thy Masters whom thou art joyned with who sets up Popish trumpery in stead of the Ordinance of Christ and sets up the precepts of men introduced in the apostacy for the doctrine of Christ And then thou concludes the Scripture hath concluded all under sinne all in the first Adam but I hope the Scripture doth not conclude all under sin in the second Adam Neither doth conclude him under sinne that 's borne of God who sins not And if thou make any such conclusion thou gives thy verdict for the Devill and not for God then thou saith I am not pleading for sinne Thou art pleading for nothing else but for sinne and imperfection in which the Devils kingdome stands and thou saith thou hast cause to cry out O wretched man that I am So thou hast indeed hast thou repented of thy drunkennesse How long is it since thou fell off a bridge being drunke and broke thy leg but it is like for thy good service done to thy Master in writing this lying scrole he will give thee an absolution for that transgression The fourth Particular which thou calls our Tenet is That we deny the Scripture to be the Word of God And thou hast brought many Scriptures to prove that they are but they are as impertinent to the thing as thy former about the Steeple-house or Masse-house Thou hast brought many Scriptures Jer. 37. 8. how they are called the words of the Lord who ever denyed that but the Word spoke the words and the Word is greater 2 Tim. 3. 16 All Scripture is given by divine inspiration I deny that some was spoken by the Devill and some by wicked men and I hope thou wilt not call that divine inspiration Then thou may be wilt conclude I deny the words of Paul to Timothy I deny the word Is it is an addition of the Translator which word alters and varies the true sense of that Scripture but all Scripture given by inspiration of God is profitable for doctrine c. But knowest thou no distinction between inspiration and tradition You have it by tradition the Saints by Inspiration It 's a dead letter in it selfe and as it is spoken from your mouthes who speak of it by tradition but from them that were inspired the living Spirit uttered forth living words But what is all this to prove the Scripture or writings to be the Word of God And then thou cites 2 Cor. 4. 7. Not handling the Word deceitfully What doth this prove nothing at all and all the rest that thou hast cited is nothing at all but what we have answered over and over many times wherein all that have any understanding in the knowledge of God are satisfied That which thou shouldst have proved by the Scripture is where the Scripture or writings or Letter doth title it selfe the Word of God It is granted they are the words of God and the words of holy men inspired So in thy owne words I say take thou notice though thou art confident and presumptuous in this thou hast shamed thy selfe and not us The Word was before either Scripture Writings or Bible was which Word is greater and gave them a being And thou that wouldst set that which is brought forth by the Father above the Father art out of the Apostles wisdome speaking a similitude He that builds a house receives more honour then the house Now to call the Scripture the Word is to give as much honour to the house as to him that builded it but in a word this I say what ever the Scripture doth testifie of it selfe or call it selfe that I owne it to be And if any man call it another thing it shall testifie against him and so thou that hast gone about to set up the words which were spoken in time above or equall with the Word that was before all time art ignorant and unskilfull in the knowledge of GOD and silence would better become thee ●n thy last page thou saith How often have wee beene called upon to make known to the world what we hold and what we would have Are you the men raised for this worke alone to cry downe Tythes and speake against Lace Ribbons and Cuffs Is there nothing for us to do Then this declare that this is enough to salvatior I say we have declared more in the world then they do receive or believe and we have published the will of God to the earth in many things and shall further proceed as the Spirit of the Lord shall direct us And that which we would have is the old Dragon chayned and the Whore burnt with fire and her Merchants cease trading and the Sea dried

as thou calls it metamorphize them into another shape witnesse the many publique Teachers and Parish-masters and tithing Priests in the dayes of Edward the sixth Henry the 8. Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeths dayes and now of late in the Bishops dayes when the Magistrates voted down the Bishops all or most of the Priests denied their Fathers and their institution and though they ordained them Ministers yet they denied them and now are got into their seats and Benefices and there thy Reader may see the metamorphosed changelings and the apostates and I do believe the County of Salop abounds with such like and they have been on the Stage long and have acted such a part in every generation as would please the present Authority or power whether they were Papists or Protestants Prelaticall or whatsoever but F. D the Exit will come and when the day appears the beasts must go into ●heir dens again and thou confesseth you live in apostatizing times thou that art among the Apostates and in the apostatizing age and time would accuse others Nay thou must hold thy peace and leave pleading for Apostates and for the fashions of the heathen which hath got up since the dayes of the apostacy which the whole scope of thy Book is full of nothing else and we cannot permit or allow them who are in the time of apostacy and who are one with the Apostates which have wandered after the Beast since the dayes of the Apostles I say we cannot allow such as you to be Judges for we are come out of the apostacy and to before the Apostates and to before the wandering Stars and thou hast mist it much that tells the Quakers are they Edward I tell thee we are come to the everlasting Gospell again and have received it and it 's the power of God which was to be and is to be preached again to the Nations after the apostacy And as for the Book called Malice stript whipt I have seen it and the spirit of thy Mr. Smith whom thou calls Reverend thou hast elevated him as high as the Pope but E. D. what is the reason thou reverencest him so much as thou doth to thy Reader And in the tenth page thou saist many souls depend upon his Ministery and thou blessest God for the worke of God you enjoy in that Congregation Thou hast extol'd him too highly or else he hath wronged thee grievously for thou saist thou hast profited much by him Thou mayest call to minde a certain time when he preached as you call it out of the 13 of Luke and when he spoke of the parable of the man that planted a Vineyard and 3 years looked for fruit and Sam Smith whom thou so adores said he had sought for fruit from your Congregation this 7 yeares at Cressage and had found none he shall be an evidence for me against thee that thy glorying of him is vain and it 's manifest he is one the Lord sent his Prophet to declare against who hath run and the Lord never sent him therefore he hath not profited you at Cressage at all lean souls are they like to be that depends on him In the first observation as thou calls it thou hast extracted the heads of Samuel Smiths Book into five particulars which thou saist we are ashamed to answer or else know not what to say for our defence I say unto thee boast not when thou putst on thy Armour but when thou putst it off for the victory may be doubtful THe first particular That the Nationall Ministers doth maintain the true worship of God and the Doctrine of Christ according to the revealed will of God Answ. So saying and so doing were something the true worship of God is in spirit and in truth which is not loe here and loe there nor in outward observations but in life in power and in truth But to be brief both the doctrine and practice of the Nationall Ministery in generall is contrary to the Scripture which thou calls the Word of God as for instance their sprinkling of Infants their teaching men to swear and calling it part of the worship of God which is contrary to the doctrine of Christ who said swear not at all Their singing Davids Psalms put into meeter by Poets and Ballad-mongers singing them in their invented tunes which pleaseth the carnall minde Their studied discourses which you call Sermons invented from the strength of naturall wit and not speaking as they are moved by the holy Ghost which the Ministers of Christ in all ages did In these and many other things which I could instance they are out of the Doctrine of Christ And in a word your whole worship differs both in matter and manner from the Saints worship in the primitive times But seeing we have denyed the Nationall Ministers divers years ago and have laid down our grounds and reasons to the world wherein we have charged them that their practice is contrary to Scripture unto which grounds and reasons not one Parish-master in England hath yet vindicated themselves these sixe years And unto that Book called The Grounds and Reasons why we deny the Priests if the Reader be not satisfied concerning them there he may see how they erre both in Doctrine and practice contrary to Scriptures To the second and third Particular That the present government of the Nation is the Ordinance of God and that the Ministers bringing offenders before the Magistate is not persecution As for the present government of the Nation the lawfulnesse thereof is not in question by us but many who are governours and should be Executors of the Law have acted contrary to Law being stirred up by the Priests who bite with their teeth if one put not into their mouths and hath caused the just to suffer by giving judgement against them in their wills contrary to Law or else according to those Lawes which hath been made in the will of man in the transgression under which we have suffered for the truths sake and therein have peace And as for Ministers bringing offenders before Magistrates that is an usurped authority to make a Minister a Magistrate but Edward what was the offence because a company of people came to Cressage and declared the word of truth in your Streets and what if it had been in your Assembly this was no offence in the Church of Corinth where all might speak one by one although it s become an offence in your Masse-house at Cressage but the Reader may judge in whose steps thou and thy Priest walkes you have done the offence and then accuseth others to the Magistrates as offenders Let shame cover your lips you impudent men Hath not Samuel Smith in his own Narration in his book said that William Parrat Constable and Humphrey Dale Church-warden according to the Ministers direction did pull down the Quakers Speaker charging some to secure him And others also of your own County secured by the instigation of the Priest by

his own confession in the fourth page of his book And here he and the rest of the society at Cressage who had a hand in this thing are manifest to be in the steps of the Pharisees whom Christ cried woe against which cast out of their Assemblies and haled the Disciples before the Magistrates and like the envious Jewes that cryed Help men of Israel for these men turn the world up-side down but you are worse then they The Priest was the first fomenter of the breach of peace the Constable and Church-warden his Executioners and yet thou tells of the Quakers being offenders Now all sober people will see your envy deceit and that you are in Cains way and by your false flattery and deceit would justifie the Magistrate for your own ends and cause them to turn the sword against the guiltlesse which should be against the transgressor And who was in the transgression on the Reader may easily judge by that which is fore-mentioned and yet the Priest and you of his Congregation would make people believe that you did not persecute the Priest did give order to pull down the Speaker the Constable and Church-warden they acted and secured your own Neighbours as prisoners your own Congregation swearing against them the breach of peace and getting them shut up into prison and sentence given against them and yet thou wouldst have this called equall proceedings but to that of God in all consciences I leave to be Judge in this things In the fourth and fifth Particular thou saith We have charged to be envious and bitter and malicious against the most eminent Ministers of the Land Them whom thou calls eminent Ministers hath charged us with many false things and have written many false things against us for which thou and they in the dreadful day of the Lord shall give an account Envy bitternesse and malice is put away from us and we envy no man but speak the truth in sobernesse and yet to say a lyar is a lyar or a deceiver a deceiver or an hypocrite an hypocrite when they are so is neither rayling nor malice Christ in whom no guile was found he said they were a generation of vipers and they were of their Father the Devill who were in envy and went about to kill him And the Apostle was not envious when he said O full of all subtlety thou childe of the Devill to one who was doing the work of the Devill and many such workers we finde and many venomous spirits who shoot out poysoned arrows even bitter words and these we must reprove sharply And those things which thou layst to our charge take to thy selfe for the ground of iniquity is in thy heart from whence thou hast uttered forth all these disdainful proud scornful words of which thou shalt be convinced and also reproved when the Lord searcheth thy heart when he brings anguish and perplexity upon thee then shalt thou confesse to his righteous judgement and so thy five Principles I have answered which thou sayest thou hast brought into thy Booke to fill up the blancks they had better have been blancks still then have spoyled so much paper with thy lylying disdainfull scribbles which is not worth the answering In the third page thou saist Thou wilt restate the reputation of the Ministery of England to be Ministers of Christ And for proof thou hast brought Col. 1. 7. and Rom. 15. Those words proves that Epaphtas was a faithfull Minister and that Paul was a Minister of Christ to the Gentiles but what hath this proved as to the Nationall Priests nothing at all and if thou have no better proof then this to bring them into reputation in stead thereof thou wilt bring defamation upon them and when thou shouldst prove them Ministers thou proves that Paul and Epaphas were Ministers will not the least in the truth see thee to be a busie-body but fools will be medling Then thou art offended that we call them Priests for receiving of Tythes I say it 's the most proper for none but Priests and Levites did receive Tythes and how long since is it since they generally called themselves the Tribe of Levi For never Minister of the Gospell nor of the word of reconciliation either received tythes or commanded that they should be payd neither reproved any for not paying but said the Priest-hood was changed and the Law was changed by which tythes were due but thou goes on and makes a sound argument as thou judgest and saith Abraham paid tythe to Melchisedeck before the Law And thou askest how he did give it either by the law of nature which is called the law of Reason or by the light within or by revelation Thou speakst thou knowst not what where readest thou of the Law of Nature called the law of Reason except it be in the devised Fables and Stories of the Priests But what doth this prove Gen. 14. Abraham gave the tenth part of the spoyl which he had taken from his enemies but Melchisedeck first brought forth bread and wine to Abrabam and his company and greeted Abraham and his company kindly and blessed him and Abraham freely gave unto him the tenth part Melchisedeck desired none But dost thou judge that if Abraham had given him none that he would have taken by force the tenth part of the spoyl from him Now what doth this prove for the tything Priests of this Nation they must first do as Melchisedeck did if they will have Melchisedeck for an example he blessed Abraham and brought forth bread and wine unto him and his Army but which of the Priests have done so which have received tythes which is not a gift of the people but a forc't thing from them If this must be thy proof for tythes by the gift of Abraham then let the Priests cease forcing and taking them till people be freely willing to give them and then there will be no complaint But let us reason a little further of this matter Would Melchisedeck have taken the tenth if Abraham had not given it him Or when did Melchisedeck or any before the Law take away the peoples Oxen Cowes Horses Sheep pots and pans and bedding upon which poor people lyes three-fold four-fold and sometime ten-fold that they claim or sue people to Courts throw them into prison till death as many evidences we have in this Nation Either give us a precept or an example before the Law or under the Gospell or else stop your lying mouths and clamorous tongues for ever Dost thou and the rest of the Priests think that wee are so ignorant that we know not the originall of the tythes in these Nations a thing invented to fill the Popes coffers and the rest of the Clergies budgets seven or eight hundred years after the Ascension of Christ All which Tythes and Oblations and Obventions were invented in the Apostacy since the dayes of the Apostles and since the woman fled into the Wildernesse And the man-childe