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A03885 A summary of controuersies Wherein are briefly treated the cheefe questions of diuinity, now a dayes in dispute betweene Catholikes & protestants: especially out of the holy Scripture. Written in Latin by the R. Father, Iames Gordon Huntley of Scotland, Doctour of Diuinity, of the Society of Iesus. And translated into English by I.L. of the same Society. The I. tome, deuided into two controuersies.; Controversiarum epitomes. English Gordon, James, 1541-1620.; Wright, William, 1563-1639. 1618 (1618) STC 13998; ESTC S104309 167,262 458

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perspicuous_o resolve_v their_o first_o argument_n be_v if_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o faith_n than_o it_o will_v follow_v that_o our_o faith_n rely_v upon_o man_n and_o not_o upon_o god_n for_o the_o church_n consist_v of_o man_n our_o adversary_n do_v often_o repeat_v and_o inculcate_v this_o argument_n unto_o us._n i_o answer_n that_o the_o same_o argument_n if_o it_o be_v any_o thing_n worth_a will_v also_o prove_v that_o we_o shall_v not_o believe_v scripture_n because_o althose_n who_o write_v the_o book_n of_o the_o bibles_n be_v also_o man_n bu●●●_n we_o do_v believe_v their_o write_n not_o because_o they_o be_v man_n but_o because_o they_o have_v a_o certain_a peculiar_a assistance_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n who_o do_v so_o govern_v and_o direct_v they_o that_o they_o can_v not_o err_v so_o in_o like_a manner_n we_o believe_v the_o church_n and_o make_v it_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n not_o as_o it_o consist_v of_o man_n but_o as_o 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holy_a scripture_n to_o wit_n lest_o the_o holy_a ghost_n may_v be_v make_v subject_n and_o inferior_a unto_o they_o 4._o the_o second_o argument_n be_v that_o christian_n may_v and_o aught_o to_o judge_v and_o examine_v all_o thing_n as_o the_o apostle_n say_v therefore_o the_o spirit_n of_o every_o christian_n ought_v to_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o all_o thing_n i_o answer_v that_o by_o the_o same_o argument_n the_o anabaptist_n &_o libertine_n 15._o 1._o cor._n v._n 15._o reject_v all_o the_o scripture_n that_o they_o may_v only_o retain_v the_o spirit_n as_o witness_v caluin_n but_o bad_o for_o even_o as_o christian_n must_v discern_v and_o judge_v all_o thing_n so_o must_v 1._o cal●●_n c._n 9_o citat_fw-la sect_n 1._o they_o also_o observe_v the_o rule_n and_o method_n in_o judge_v which_o the_o scripture_n do_v prescribe_v unto_o they_o and_o which_o himself_o appoint_v but_o this_o rule_n be_v not_o every_o one_o private_a spirit_n but_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n for_o it_o be_v altogether_o necessary_a that_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n be_v most_o certain_a &_o free_a from_o all_o error_n as_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v and_o not_o that_o of_o every_o private_a man_n hereupon_o say_v s._n john_n he_o 6._o 1._o joan._n 4._o v._n 6._o which_o know_v god_n hear_v we_o he_o who_o be_v not_o of_o god_n do_v not_o hear_v we_o in_o this_o we_o know_v the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n and_o the_o spirit_n of_o error_n we_o must_v therefore_o judge_v of_o every_o man_n by_o that_o they_o either_o hear_v or_o do_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n &c_n &c_n because_o they_o either_o agree_v or_o disagree_v from_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n 5._o the_o three_o argument_n be_v that_o catholic_n prove_v the_o church_n and_o the_o authority_n thereof_o by_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o scripture_n be_v rather_o the_o ground_n of_o faith_n than_o the_o church_n i_o answer_v first_o that_o the_o proof_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v take_v out_o of_o scripture_n when_o we_o dispute_v against_o heretic_n be_v a_o argument_n call_v by_o philosopher_n ad_fw-la hominem_fw-la and_o it_o be_v deduce_v out_o of_o the_o premise_n already_o grant_v in_o which_o manner_n also_o the_o first_o principle_n or_o ground_n of_o every_o science_n may_v be_v prove_v and_o out_o of_o those_o thing_n also_o which_o of_o themselves_o be_v not_o very_o strong_a and_o certain_a so_o out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n against_o the_o jew_n we_o prove_v the_o new_a testament_n albeit_o this_o also_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n because_o the_o jew_n do_v admit_v and_o receive_v the_o old_a testament_n but_o not_o the_o new_a yea_o also_o even_o out_o of_o the_o jewish_a talmud_n we_o prove_v many_o thing_n against_o the_o jew_n because_o they_o admit_v and_o approve_v it_o as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o yet_o their_o talmud_n be_v not_o the_o ground_n of_o our_o faith_n because_o this_o only_a be_v as_o i_o say_v a_o argument_n deduce_v out_o of_o such_o thing_n as_o they_o gra●●t_v unto_o us._n so_o in_o like_a man●er_n because_o almost_o all_o heretic_n admit_v the_o scripture_n and_o reject_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o when_o we_o dispute_v against_o they_o we_o prove_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n by_o the_o scripture_n as_o premise_n already_o grant_v by_o they_o but_o if_o we_o be_v to_o deal_v with_o infidel_n or_o other_o who_o do_v not_o admit_v the_o scripture_n than_o the_o say_v scripture_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o contrariwise_o for_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n far_o better_o and_o more_o common_o know_v that_o there_o 10._o infra_fw-la 18._o buius_fw-la con_fw-mi ●r_n §._o 10._o be_v a_o church_n then_o that_o there_o be_v the_o holy_a scripture_n as_o afterward_o we_o will_v show_v more_o clear_o 6._o second_o i_o answer_v that_o there_o be_v so_o great_a connexion_n betwixt_o the_o scripture_n and_o the_o church_n that_o the_o scripture_n may_v very_o well_o be_v prove_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n and_o again_o the_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n neither_o shall_v this_o seem_v strange_a to_o our_o adversary_n for_o logician_n also_o know_v very_o well_o that_o that_o which_o by_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v more_o certain_a &_o better_o know_v may_v be_v prove_v by_o that_o which_o be_v more_o certain_a and_o better_o know_v unto_o we_o by_o a_o demonstration_n call_v by_o they_o à_fw-la posteriori_fw-la and_o contrary_a wise_a that_o which_o be_v better_o know_v unto_o we_o may_v be_v prove_v by_o that_o which_o be_v better_o know_v and_o more_o certain_a in_o his_o own_o nature_n by_o a_o demonstration_n call_v à_fw-la priori_fw-la so_o the_o cause_n be_v prove_v by_o the_o effect_n &_o the_o effect_n by_o the_o cause_n as_o fire_n be_v prove_v by_o heat_n à_fw-la posteriori_fw-la and_o heat_n by_o the_o nature_n of_o fire_n à_fw-la priori_fw-la so_o in_o like_a manner_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o church_n the_o which_o in_o regard_n of_o we_o be_v more_o certain_a and_o better_o know_v we_o prove_v the_o scripture_n as_o it_o be_v à_fw-fr posteriori_fw-la and_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o in_o it_o own_o nature_n be_v more_o certain_a we_o prove_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n as_o it_o be_v à_fw-fr priori_fw-la 7._o the_o four_o argument_n s._n paul_n testify_v that_o the_o church_n be_v support_v by_o the_o ground_n and_o foundation_n of_o the_o prophet_n and_o apostle_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o their_o prophetical_a and_o apostolical_a doctrine_n but_o if_o the_o foresay_a doctrine_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o the_o church_n it_o necessary_o follow_v that_o this_o doctrive_v appear_v to_o
of_o it_o albeit_o it_o be_v immediate_o from_o god_n to_o the_o end_n it_o be_v make_v manifest_a unto_o us._n for_o otherwise_o we_o shall_v not_o be_v oblige_v by_o the_o authority_n thereof_o but_o this_o be_v not_o do_v now_o by_o miracle_n nor_o by_o the_o immediate_a or_o extraordinary_a revelation_n of_o god_n therefore_o it_o rest_v that_o we_o say_v it_o be_v do_v by_o the_o ordinary_a &_o mediate_a revelation_n of_o god_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o church_n or_o rather_o by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o speak_v unto_o we_o by_o the_o church_n chap._n ix_o that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n see_v that_o there_o arise_v daily_o so_o many_o disputation_n and_o controversye_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n none_o can_v deny_v but_o that_o there_o must_v necessary_o be_v some_o judge_n appoint_v who_o must_v define_v end_n and_o determine_v such_o controversye_n for_o otherwise_o there_o will_v never_o be_v a_o end_n of_o such_o matter_n but_o it_o be_v a_o great_a difficulty_n who_o must_v be_v this_o judge_n the_o sectary_n of_o this_o time_n almost_o all_o refuse_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n for_o they_o see_v very_o well_o that_o if_o they_o admit_v she_o as_o judge_v all_o their_o error_n will_v be_v quite_o overthrow_v wherefore_o some_o of_o they_o affirm_v that_o the_o sole_a scripture_n must_v be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n and_o this_o be_v the_o first_o doctrine_n of_o our_o adversary_n to_o wit_n luther_n &_o zuinglius_fw-la 2._o but_o our_o late_a adversary_n when_o they_o consider_v that_o it_o be_v a_o absurd_a thing_n to_o make_v the_o scripture_n be_v a_o thing_n 1._o cap._n 18._o controu_fw-fr 1._o without_o life_n the_o judge_n as_o we_o have_v declare_v before_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o will_v have_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n but_o lest_o they_o may_v seem_v to_o attribute_v too_o much_o unto_o 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only_o attribute_v to_o the_o scripture_n and_o not_o judgement_n search_v the_o scripture_n say_v christ_n 19_o joan._n 5._o v._n 19_o and_o the_o same_o be_v they_o that_o give_v testimony_n of_o i_o and_o hence_o it_o be_v that_o the_o law_n of_o god_n be_v often_o call_v in_o scripture_n in_o the_o hebrew_n phrase_n eda_n or_o eduth_n or_o tenda_n that_o be_v to_o say_v 118._o psalm_n 118._o a_o testimony_n yea_o even_o in_o one_o psalm_n it_o be_v call_v above_o twenty_o time_n by_o that_o name_n 6._o moreover_o in_o the_o prophet_n isay_n in_o the_o same_o place_n false_o cite_v by_o our_o adversary_n that_o they_o may_v prove_v thereby_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o controversy_n it_o be_v call_v a_o witness_n or_o a_o testimony_n and_o not_o a_o judge_n nay_o rather_o to_o the_o 20._o isa_n 8._o v._n 20._o law_n say_v the_o prophet_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n 7._o furthermore_o one_o thing_n be_v more_o absurd_a that_o in_o matter_n of_o such_o moment_n to_o appoint_v such_o a_o deaf_a and_o dumb_a judge_n and_o who_o may_v also_o be_v corrupt_v for_o both_o party_n and_o who_o sentence_n either_o party_n use_v indifferent_o but_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o scripture_n be_v such_o a_o judge_n for_o it_o can_v neither_o speak_v nor_o hear_v and_o so_o in_o like_a manner_n do_v all_o heretic_n ancient_a and_o modern_a also_o use_v the_o scripture_n last_o almost_o all_o our_o adversary_n do_v see_v how_o absurd_a these_o thing_n be_v and_o therefore_o they_o fly_v unto_o their_o own_o private_a spirit_n the_o which_o they_o call_v the_o holy_a ghost_n wherefore_o let_v we_o come_v now_o to_o the_o second_o point_n 8._o as_o concern_v therefore_o this_o private_a spirit_n first_o there_o be_v none_o who_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o chief_a judge_n of_o all_o controversye_n but_o the_o question_n be_v where_o this_o holy_a spirit_n be_v to_o be_v find_v and_o in_o who_o it_o remain_v 9_o moreover_o it_o be_v certain_a that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n do_v not_o remain_v or_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o any_o book_n lest_o peradventure_o our_o adversary_n shall_v send_v we_o to_o their_o bibles_n but_o in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o believer_n now_o we_o ask_v whether_o this_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o all_o be_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o believer_n or_o rather_o in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n we_o have_v our_o desire_n if_o they_o say_v in_o the_o hart_n of_o every_o private_a man_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o no_o private_a person_n can_v err_v in_o his_o own_o judgement_n see_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n he●re_o true_o we_o seek_v for_o that_o judge_n which_o can_v err_v 10._o furthermore_o every_o private_a man_n shall_v be_v come_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n if_o every_o such_o private_a person_n have_v this_o spirit_n which_o be_v the_o judge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n whereupon_o there_o will_v ensue_v a_o great_a confusion_n in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n 11._o beside_o that_o if_o every_o believer_n be_v the_o judge_n they_o our_o adversary_n must_v needs_o admit_v the_o ancient_a father_n as_o judge_n of_o all_o controversy_n the_o which_o they_o will_v never_o do_v for_o they_o dare_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n be_v true_a believer_n why_o therefore_o do_v they_o attribute_v unto_o themselves_o that_o which_o they_o so_o u●hemently_o deny_v to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n 21._o moreover_o if_o every_o believer_n can_v err_v in_o his_o judgement_n much_o less_o can_v a_o great_a many_o such_o err_v and_o least_o of_o all_o can_v the_o church_n of_o all_o believer_n err_v wherefore_o whatsoever_o our_o adversary_n say_v they_o will_v be_v force_v to_o confess_v and_o grant_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o judge_n as_o he_o remain_v in_o the_o whole_a 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thing_n for_o otherwise_o 5._o s._n aug_n tom._n 6._o de_fw-mi haer_fw-mi cap._n 84._o s._n hier._n contra_fw-la hell_n vid_fw-la author_n de_fw-fr eccl._n dogm_n cap._n 69._o s._n ambros_n in_o epist_n 7._o ad_fw-la siricium_n papam_fw-la epiph._n haer_fw-mi 78._o lunius_fw-la contra_fw-la bellar_n controu_fw-fr 1._o lib._n 4._o c._n 9_o nota_fw-la 5._o woman_n shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v but_o only_a man_n 11._o the_o three_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n the_o mother_n of_o god_n remain_v always_o a_o virgin_n even_o after_o her_o childby●th_n for_o this_o be_v extant_a no_o where_n in_o scripture_n and_o yet_o heluidius_fw-la be_v condemn_v as_o a_o heretic_n by_o the_o whole_a ancient_a church_n because_o he_o presume_v to_o deny_v it_o 12._o when_o card._n bellarmine_n have_v allege_v this_o un_fw-fr write_v point_n of_o faith_n to_o prove_v that_o all_o such_o point_n of_o faith_n be_v not_o express_o set_v down_o in_o holy_a writ_n francis●us_n 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