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A86649	The fiery darts of the divel quenched; or, Something in answer to a book called, a second beacon fired, presented to the Lord Protector, and the Parliament, and subscribed by Luke Fawne, John Rothwel, Samuel Gellibrand, Thomas Underhill, Joshua Kirton, Nathaniel Web. Wherin, their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent, and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers, owned and vindicated, and all the rest which is in that book disowned, and their deceite laid open; how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy, that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the heathen. / By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog, called after the flesh, Francis Howgil. Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord, by one John Griffith, against us, whom the world calls Quakers, wherein his false accusations is denied, and he proved to be a slanderer, and the truth cleared from his scandals. By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world, called Edward Burrough.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.; Burrough, Edward, 1634-1662.	1654 (1654)	Wing H3159; Thomason E817_16; ESTC R207383	23,227	35

speaks in thee but the voyce of the Divil and the Serpent which speaks from thee fleshly minded we are not but are redeemed out of it and our mindes are changed and are Spiritual and 't is the Spirit of the living God seales unto us and witnesses in us and here thou art of thy Father the old Dragon an accuser of the Bretheren but it is God that justifies and who art thou that condemns and this thy speech is seene and comprehended which thou hast directed to us and it is judged by the spirit of true judgment to be a false accusation and a lie and not the word of the Lord and into the lake amongst the false Prophets thou art to be turned who useth thy tongue when the Lord never spake to thee and thou saiest we looke upon the Institution of Christs Supper with a fleshly and carnal eye because wee say that the bread and wine which Christ commanded his Disciples to eate and to drinke is carnall I Answer The bread and wine is visible and carnal and fleshly and not Spiritual nor Eternal and in the eternall light by the Spiritual eye of God opened in us we see them and do owne that it was a command of Christ to stand for its time and no more but a carnal figure of a spiritual thing and the spiritual thing being the substance bearing witnesse the figure is denyed and declared against and thou and thy generation who art acting in those things by tradition tying and limiting God to a visible thing that without it no salvation art in the sorcerie and witchraft and an enemie to the substance for Christ never since he was sacrifised brake of the bread or dranke of the cup with his Disciples but new in his Fathers kingdome and thou who art in the carnal figure acting those things without the injoyment of Christ art sensual and by the light of Christ is to be condemned and juged with the world who art without God and without the injoyment of Christ in the beggerly rudiments of the world thou saist O fleshly minded men whom the God of this world hath blinded because you believe not and thou sayst thus saith the Lord and speaks the Prophet Mal. words to which I answer this again I do deny the God of the world is cast out and the eye is opened through judgment and our fleshly minds are judged and in the Name of Jesus we do believe and our belief in him hath purified our hearts to the praise of the living God who hath wrought all our works in us and for us do I speake without boasting and here againe I charge it upon thee that thou art a slanderer and a false accuser and let shame cover thee who professes thy selfe to be a teacher of others who thy selfe is not taught of the Lord but steals Malachies words and speaks them to us in thine own imaginations and calls it the word of the Lord the Lord is against thee thou false prophet who prophesies lies in his name and that which thou speaks to us is thy owne condition and that which shall come upon thine own head for a child of disobedience thou art and thy eye is blinded by the God of this world and whereas thou saiest wee are spiritually proud that give forth our selves to bee some great ones and wee say wee are Apostles and are not but are found liers proud Pharisees hypocrites that say wee are just holy humble and the poor sinful publicans are more justified then wee I answer proud wee are not our God shall judge between thee and us in this thing for wee have nothing but what wee have freely received from him and that we give forth our selves to be great ones here thou art a lier and a false accuser again this we have said and do yet again declare that we were moved of the Lord of heaven and earth to come to declare his mind and his truth in this City but this is no boasting and by that same spirit which was in the Apostles were wee moved and are guided and by no other but who hath found us liers since wee came I challenge you and all thy sect to prove one lie that wee have uttered or else let shame cover thee and let thy mouth be stopped and let thy owne heart condemne thee to be found the lier thy selfe and this we testifie against thee and all the world that by Jesus and in him are wee made holy just and humble he is made these things in us and for us and the publican state is witnessed by us who have passed through the figure and parable into the life and substance and whereas thou saist wee that boast of our light within and faith thus saith the Lord and brings Christs words I answer this is another lie wee doe not boast of our light within but vvee vvitnesse it to bee within us and to have enlightned every one that comes into the vvorld vvhich thou and thy generation denies and so vvould make Christ a lier and the Scripture a lie but against you all with all the vvorld vve beare testimony and the Father beares vvitnesse with us that every man that comes into the world is lightned by the light of Christ which teaches all that love it into righteousnesse but condemns them that hate it wherof thou art one who utters forth thy lies and slanders and false accusations against the innocent and that Scripture John 9. we owne and do witnesse to be fulfilled in us by the coming of Christ hee which did see is blind and hee which was blind now sees and while wee did see our sin remained but being blind wee have no sinne but this to thee and to thy spirit is a mystery sealed and never to be known in that nature and wisdome and here againe thou hast used thy tongue false Prophet like and must receive a false prophets reward And whereas thou saist if Christ had not spoke to us in his word we had had no sin but now wee have no cloak for our sinne I answer Christs words we owne but here thou art made manifest to all to be an adder to the Scripture in his word this thou hast added false Prophet-like and therefore the Lord will adde his plagues unto thee as the Scripture saith bee ashamed and blush thy folly and wickednesse is made manifest who is not ashamed to carry on thy designe to adde to Christs words And whereas thou saiest wee do not only neglect the weightier matters of the law but the law it selfe teaching men so to doe for wee said that the Scripture is not the rule of faith and conversation as one of us taught Sept. 27. in thy hearing and many others that will witnesse it I answer here I challenge thee to prove that thou hast spoken and all thy witnesses which thou speakes of oh thou lier be ashamed to forge such lies and declare them in writing for truth we neglect not the

weightier matters of the law nor the law nor teach any so to do all that ever heard us wil bear witnesse against thee and they though our enemies shal witnesse for us and against thee in this thing for we declare the everlasting Gospel which is the fulfilling of the law and this we declare that the law must have its operation through before the Gospel be witnessed and one of thy owne society said to us wee had preached the law and brought men to understand it from grace now let all take notice of the confusion you live in and let your owne hearts condemne you and the light in your owne consciences convince you that you are in Babylon and in confusion and are no true Church of Christ where all are of one heart and one mind and this againe I affi●me as before I did in thy hearing that the Scripture is not the Saints rule but the Spirit which gave forth the Scripture as the Scripture it self witnesses Rom. 8. Faith was before the Scripture was and therfore the Scripture is not the ground of it but a declaration of it and no other faith we owne but the faith which Abel had and which Moses had which was when no Scripture was written and that we own to be the rule of our conversation which they walked by the immediate spirit of God which was before the Scripture was written and all you who professe the Scripture to be your rule your own rule shal testifie against you when the eternal God judges you and they vvho vvitness that to bee their rule which gave forth the Scripture walkes up in the life of the Scripture more then you all and you are proved to be but the Jew outward who bosts of the Ordinances from the letter but persecutes them by slanders and false reproaches who witnesse the substance and your praise is only of men and not of God and the same woe which thou pronounces upon us wil fall upon thy owne head for this thy grievous slander that we neglect the law and teach men so to do and whereas thou brings many Scriptures and saith thus saith the Lord I answer the Scriptures we owne and by that spirit which speaks them forth wee witnesse them to be true and they are ours and though you say they are the savour of death to us that perish yet thou art found a lier for wee are saved out of the perishing state and death is destroyed through death and thou hast diminished through faith from that Scripture 2 Tim. 3. 15. false prophet like againe and so art both an adder and a diminisher and thou maist read thy portion in Rev. 22. 18 19. and whereas thou saiest know this thou perverter of the right way of God thou shalt bee judged by the word of Christ spoke I answer here thou sets the Scripture in the roome of Christ and art the perverter of the right way of God thy selfe for the Scripture saith all judgement is commited to the Sonn and the Scripture is not the Sonne and thou didst say and now againe writes that the Scripture shall judge the vvorld and so I charge it upon thee that thou art a blasphemer vvho exalts the Scripture above the Sonne of God and shalt be judged by the Sonne into utter drrknesse and into the pit from vvhence thou art come yet this I testifie he that receives the Sonne rejecteth not those vvords vvhich vvas spoken by him though thou and thy generation Pharisee like may make a profession of the vvords vvhich Christ spoke and yet reject the Sonne and all to vvhom Christ speaks vvhich receives him not shall be judged by the vvord vvhich he speaks for he speaks eternally which shal stand eternally but when did he speake to thee for this I doe declare thou maist have those words which he spoke and yet never have heard his word nor voice as the Pharisees had those words which God spake by the Prophets but never had heard his word nor seen his shape John 5. and thou saist quake and tremble at this that word which you reject and dispise shall judge you at the last day and saith thus saith the Lord and brings Christs words and the Apostles words I Answer the Lord rebuke thee thou scorner here thou hast made the filthynesse of thy heart knowne for out of the abundance thereof thy mouth speaks here thou art seen to be a scorner quaking and trembling we own it is that which the holy men of God witnessed but here be a witnesse against thy self that thou art a scorner of their conditions what hast thou to doe to talk of the Scrip●ure who art scorning that which it declares of here thou art made manifest to be one that hath the form but denies the power and scornes at it God scornes thee thou scornful one and let all that feare the Lord depart from thee and see thy filthinesse and search the Scripture whether it testifies not of that which thou scornes at and makes a mock upon And that we reject and despise the Scripture and the words which Christ spake which thou accusest us of this is another lie and a false slander for the scriptures vve ovvne in their place and by the Spirit of God sets to seale that they are true but that they shall judge the vvorld vvee doe deny and herein thy ignorance doth appear and that thou art blinded by the God of this vorld which thou vvould cast upon us and Christs vvords and the vvords of the Apostles shall fall upon thy own head for vengeance in flames of fire will the Lord render upon thee thou lier and slanderer and false accuser who art in disobedience to the Gospel of God And whereas thou saist the Lord hath spoken it and it shall surely come to passe and bringst many Scriptures I Ansvver The Scriptures vve ovvn and vvhat is spoken in them shall be fulfiled but thou lier when did God speake this to thee the judgements pronounced in them shall fall upon thy ovvn head because thou art guilty of the same iniquities as they vvere of against vvhom these Scriptures vvas declared and wheras thou saist we are those that the Lord before hath spoken of in his vvord and therefore no marvel vve vvould not have men to reade it and cites the 2. of Peter 2. Chap. I Ansvver I doe in the presence of the living God deny thee thy false assertion but it shal stand for thy owne condition thou art one in the generation which Christ spake of and that vvas in the Apostles dayes which hath the forme but denies the power as they had and I charge thee againe with a lie in thy mouth who saith we would not have men to read the Scriptures they who have heard us shall witnesse against thee that wee do direct to search the Scripture whether our doctrine be not true and by the Scripture shal our doctrine be tried how long wilt thou utter thy lies in the

name of the Lord the Lord will plead with thee thou unclean lying spirit and that which thou pronounces against us shal come upon thy selfe and thou saiest we through covetousnesse make merchandize of some wee challenge thee and all the City of London to prove this thou lying serpent God shall plead with thee wee are free and cleare in the sight of God of thy false accusations and have desired nor sought after no mans mony nor gold nor apparel God is our witnesse and many in this City knowes the same though thou slanderingly an enemie of God doth accuse us but I challenge thee in thy reply to this make it appear what thou assertest or lay thy hand upon thy mouth and let shame strike thee in the face for ever I charge thee that thou canst make appeare plainly in particular and do not darkly accuse us what those damnable heresies are which we bring in and wherein we deny the Lord and what our pernicious waies are which thou falsly and slanderously accuses us of and wherein wee are fleshly and despise government and are presumptuous and wherein or how wee speake evil of Dignities and wherin we are as natural bruit beasts and what these things are wee speake evil of which wee know not and what our swelling words of vanity are and whom we do allure through the lusts of the flesh and through much wantonness in the presence of the Lord I challenge thee to prove the particulars of thy accusations and not to slander in the darke though such as these there were in the Apostles daies who were turned out from the light and the Apostles which dwelt in the light saw them and such a generation there is now they are seene and known where they are by them who abides in the light but of these thy false slanders upon us we are cleare in the presence of the Lord God and that portion which thou wouldest give unto us must thou have thy self for with what measure thou hast meted it shal be measured to thee againe even the blaknesse of darknesse for ever and the day of the vengeance of God is at hand against thee And wheras thou saist we pretend to tremble it is true we pretend the example of Moses and thou saist O abominable hypocrysie and dissimulation will that justifie your shaking your hands like idiots and your raving like mad men Moses was a man in whom the fear and dread of the Lord was who kept his word but you dispise it who loved the law but you reject it I Answer We doe not only pretend to tremble but oft doe we and have we witnessed it by the mighty power and dread of the Lord upon us and we walke not by the example of the servants of the Lord without us but the same power we witnesse which was in them by which they were made to tremble vvhich thou scornes and derides at and calles it madnesse the holy men of God vvere counted by such as thou art mad men and vvere cast out of their assemblies vvhich trembled at the vvord of the Lord but that vve despise the vvord and lavv of God here thou art a lier againe and the plagues of God hang over thy head for thy lies and slanders against the innocent the same seare of God vvhich vvas in Moses vve vvitness and no other and thou vvho art vvithout it art a Heathen and Moses and Jeremiah and Habbakuk which thou speaks of were our example who walked by the same spirit and served the Lord by the same spirit but that wee served our fleshly lusts which here again thou accusest us of I do challenge thee to prove it but I know thou canst not and therefore art in the nature of the Divel accusing the Brethren and to walk by tradition wee deny which you also would lay to our charge but the same spirit by which they were acted acts us the same way according to its measure and the same light which they walked in is our light and this light is the light of Christ within us and not without us And whereas thou saiest its true if wee served the Lord and kept his word it would make us to tremble as it doth those that fear him but wee have rejected the law of the Lord and the word which hee hath spoken and the Lord when he comes to shake terribly the earth shal give us our portion in the lake that burnes I answer Let all the world here take notice of thy confusion and ignorance which utters forth it selfe through thee thou before was scorning trembling and now thou art approving of it and if it be they that tremble which serve the Lord here be a witnesse against thy selfe thou serves him not who art not yet come to tremble but art in thy high nature above the fear of the Lord and here againe thou art found a false accuser for wee reject not the Law of the Lord nor the word which hee hath spoken but live in it and rejoyces in it daily for in it is our hearts delight and here againe as thou hast measured to us it shall be measured unto thee when the Lord God arises to recompence his enemies thy portion will bee the same as thou hast said in the lake which burnes with fire and brimstone And now a few words in answer to that which thou calls a Caution to all that are called Saints in the Nation which may concerne all people I Answer They who are Saints who dwell in the light and walkes in the light doth discerne thee to be no Saint neither wil receive any caution from thee but will testifie against thee for thy lies and slanders and false accusations which thy booke is filled withall and herein it may concerne all people that thy lies and slanders be reproved and laid open lest they receive lies for thy truth and be deceived by thy subtil speeches who brings the Prophets words and the Apostles words wresting them and f●lsely applying them to make thy lies to be received but all people who love the light wherewith Christ hath enlightened them will see thee and deny thee and turne away from thee as having the forme of Godlinesse without the power And whereas thou saiest ye may rejoyce that you live to see not only the mystery of godlynesse but also the working of the mystery of iniquity in the fleshly corrupt and sensual minded men called Quakers I Answer That name Quakers was cast upon us by the Heathen through their scorne and derision as the name Christians was upon the Disciples though quaking wee own for all the holy men of God witnessed it and the Holy Scriptures declares of it and here againe thou enviously and maliciously hast cast a slander upon us fleshly corrupt and sensual mindednesse and the working of the mystery of iniquity is destroyed in us by the mighty power of God made manifest in Jesus Christ which takes away sin to the praise of the

of the bookes in the Beacon fired wee disowne them but I believe you have belied them as you have done ours A Certaine Book being come forth into the world ful of lies and slanders against the innocent called A voice from the word of the Lord to those grand impostors called Quakers to the Author of which book who calls himselfe J●hn Griffith a servant of Christ and to all to whomsoever it may come I am moved to write something in Answer that his lies and slanders and false r●proaches may be made manifest and that he may proceed no further for as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses so doth he resist the truth being a man of a corrupt mind and reprobate concerning faith and is not a Servant of Christ nor a witnesse for his name but a child of disobedience in whom the Prince of the aire rules And first to the title of thy book I Answer the word of the Lord is powerful and wil cut thee down thou sensual minded man yet thou knowest not but takes the words of others declared from the word vvhich vvas in them and thou useth thy tongue and saith the Lord saith it but I say unto thee the Lord hath not spoken unto thee neither commanded thee to speak of his name and I charge it upon thee in the presence of the Lord God of life that thou art of that generation which Jeremiah was sent to cry against Jer. 23. 31. for thou speakes thy imaginations upon their words which dwelt in the life of God but the life thou knowest not and thy whole book is no more but an empty sound and voice is as the untimely fruit of the womb which wil wither and perish away and one of them I am whom thou calls Quakers to whom thou saist thou directs thy speech but that wee are grand impostors I do denie for we are gathered up into the life which the holy men of God lived and are fallen from the world and from its wayes and nature and I charge thee here to be a slanderer and from the mouth of the Lord I do declare unto thee that thou must have a slanderers reward And vvheras thou saist thou hast discovered their fleshly and filthy mindednesse together vvith the judgments of God attending them I Answer Fleshly and filthy mindednesse we have denied by the Power of the Sonne of God made manifest in us thou hast laid it to our charge but thou hast not proved it nor discovered it and here againe thou art a false accuser fleshly and filthy mindedness shal stand for thy ovvne condition for there thou art in the flesh and filth living to thy vvil in the lust of uncleanesse for you may remember thou came out of the bowling Allie to our meeting though Pharisee like thy out side is painted and made clean but thy heart is ful of enmity and lies and slanders and false reproaches to that in thy conscience I do speake which shal for ever vvitnesse me and as for the judgments of the Lord upon thy own head wil they fal and with what measure thou metes it shal be measured to thee again we are passed from judgment and from the condemnation and who art thou thon enemy of righteousnesse that shal lay any thing to the charge of Gods elect And whereas thou saiest thou art one that bears witnesse against those wandring starres I answer this shal stand for thy owne condition a wandring star thou art and hath no habitation in the heaven but speaks swelling words of vanity thou thy self being a servant of corruption we have an abinding place and an habitation in the Lord and are not wandring and here againe I charge thee to be a false accuser and a false witnesse who bears witnesse of thy selfe for the Father bears no witnesse of thee but against thee Whereas thou saist the most high God that made the heavens and the earth hath moved thee and stirred thee up to bear witnesse to the truth and to witnesse against the abmoinable fleshly mindednesse and yet spiritual pride of those grand impostors called Quakers by whose sorceries many are bewitched and drawn from the simplicity of the gospell to another gospel which is not another Gospel but the vanity of their owne minds and their owne fleshly and corrupt thoughts which they cry up as Oracles of God I answer The most high God judge between thee and us whose wrath is kindled against thee thou enemie of righteousnesse and child of wrath thou hast belied the Lord of heaven and earth for to this he moved thee not for he moves none to utter lies and slanders as thou hast done but the spirit of enmity and of the Divil hath moved thee and to the truth thou beares no witnesse but against the truth and against the innocent and charges us with fleshly mindednesse and spirituall pride O thou lier and false accuser the Lord who takes our part against thee will plead with thee and render upon thy head according to thy deedes prove what thou speaks that we are fleshly minded and spiritually proud or else let thy mouth be stopped and shame cover thee for ever sorceries and witchcraft and drawing from the simplicity of the Gospel wee doe deny but the plaine single truth wee doe declare by which the eye of the blind is opened in many to see your deceits who call your selves Churches and Preachers of the Gospel which is not the Gospel that the Apostles preached but an adding your own Imaginations upon their words who witnessed the Gospel and it shal stand for thy own condition thou art in the sorcery and witchraft who draws people to observe an outward visible thing from the light of Christ within them which leades to the simplicity of the Gospel which is inward and not outward and thou art in thy fleshly and corrupt thoughts crying up the Ordinances and Oracles of God which are but carnal and beggerly rudiments of the world which passeth away and here thou art seen and made manifest in the light of Christ to be a hypocrite who false accuses others of that which thou art guilty of thy selfe the same Gospel as ever was doe we declare and not another which wee received not from man neither was taught it by man and as the Oracles of God it shall stand for ever for a witnesse against thee and all the world who doth not believe for even the Father beares witnesse of us and therefore our witnesse is true and the righteous God will plead with thee thou lyar and false accuser and here be a witnesse against thy selfe that the Lord moved thee not but the Divil acting in thy owne imaginations and in the vanity of thy one minde and in thy one fleshly and corrupt thoughts and whereas thou sayest to us thou directs thy speech from the Lord thus saith the Lord to thee O Quaker thou art fleshly minded I answer It is not the voyce of the Lord to us that

THE Fiery darts of the Divel quenched OR Something in Answer to a Book called a Second Beacon fired presented to the Lord PROTECTOR and the Parliament and subscribed by Luke Fawne John Rothwel Samuel Gellibrand Thomas Vnderhill Joshua Kirton Nathaniel Web Wherin their lies and slanders are made manifest against the innocent and those books which have been published by them they call Quakers owned and vindicated and all the rest which is in that book disowned and their deceite laid open how they have perverted the truth and our words in those books which they cry out of as blasphemy that the truth may not suffer under the reproach of the Heathen By one who is a witnesse for the truth against Gog and Magog called after the flesh FRANCIS HOWGIL Also something in answer to a booke called a voice from the Word of the Lord by one John Griffith against us whom the world calls Quakers wherein his false accusations is denied and he proved to be a slanderer and the truth cleared from his Scandals By one who is a witnesse against the deceits of the world called Edward Burrough London Printed for Giles Calvert at the black-spread Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1654. FIrst of all you go about and flatter the powers and the Magistrates and tells them they ought to have a care of their peoples souls in keeping them from infection of idolatry and blasphemy and you say you are to informe them of the dangerousnesse of great meeting in London of Quakers whose opinions are blasphemous Paganish Antiscriptural and Anti-Christian even as the former And further the greatest thing that troubles you is Printing and publishing books many thousands you say concerning blasphemous and heretical and antimagistratical opinions tending to unchristian people and disorder the people of the Nations and to bring in paganisme and libertinisme and this you say you present unto them to provoke their zeale against them Oh you blood thirsty minded men all the care that you would have the Magistrates to take of the people is to destroy them and to have them shut up in holes and caves and dens and prisons and the truth ever suffered by your generation and your generation hath ever pressed the Magistrates that they might abuse their power and if they will but hearken to you instead of healing the people they will be destroyers and in stead of making up breaches they will make desolate and so you would drive them on hastily to satisfie your corrupt wil and to uphold your Diana and your craft that you may make merchandize of that which hath been long enough sold and printed by you and what hath it done who is turned from darknesse to light and you that makes a trade of others writings and words to maintain you in your lusts and deceive this you would have them to uphold but as for the care of peoples soules it s far enough from you and all along your filthy lying slanderous booke you are made manifest to bee of those that would have fire to come down from heaven in your wils to destroy all those that withstand you and your imaginations And therfore let all magistrates in whom the fear of the Lord is take heed how they take things from the hands and mouthes of them who hath alwaies persecuted the power of truth and called truth errour and light darknesse and darknesse light and in a blind zeale for God destroy them whom the power of the Lord is manifest in for so Paul persecuted Christ and the Saints and so the Jewes crucified Christ and all the Saints have suffered And you are offended at our meeting in London while wee have beene here in the City wee have not been in a corner and wee challenge you and all the City in the name of the Lord who is dreadfull to all liers and slanderers to show what are those blasphemies that you speake of you backbiters shall have your portion with the rest of hypocrites opinions we deny for the light of Jesus Christ which is spirituall which appears and declares against all sects and opinions and blasphemies and all you who hates it are in contention and in opinions and blaspheme the truth and here I charge it upon you in the presence of the living God that you are blasphemers who calls the light naturall and paganisme and the Lord wil plead with you you filthy corrupt minds who calls the light of Christ Antichristian for here in the presence of the Lord of hosts I speake it no other light doe wee owne to walk by but that which is spiritual and eternal the light of Christ which he hath enlightned every one that comes into the world withal and this is not Anti-scriptural as thou cals it for the Scriptures witness the same and Christ bears witness of it and no other light do we own but the same that ever was which was in the beginning and which convinceth the world of sin and the same that led up the Saints to know the Father and the Son and you that cal this paganisme and heretical and blasphemous and Antichristian let all who have any light in them judg and let shame cover your faces and fear take hold upon you for your words stinke and come out of the mouth of the dragon ye filthy unclean frogs which hath poison under your tongues And as for the bookes which wee have Printed wee owne them and are ready to lay downe our lives for the testimonie of Jesus and the truth of them and seale them with our blood and what are written in them through the eternal power of God which is made manifest and that wee have published any thing against any just Magistracie let all our writings and all who reade them judge and if bearing witnesse to Jesus Christ unchristians people let all judge for no other do wee owne but the same Christ to day and yesterday and for ever and here all your petitioning is made manifest from whence it did arise and proceed and your shame and nakednesse and envie appears And the Sacraments which you say you use which is appointed in the Scripture and Farnworth in Answer to a petition did deny them Answer His answer we owne and I challenge you to bee perverters of the Scripture where read you of Sacraments in the Scripture here I charge you to be liers and slanderers and deniers of the Scripture and adders to it and the plagues shall be added to you and as for that which you use among you is traditional and imitatory Yet the bread which wee break is the Communion of the body of Christ and the cup wee drink is the Communion of the blood of Christ and this is that which Paul received from him and Baptisme by one spirit into one body we owne the baptisme is but one and this wee owne and here you liers and slanderers are seen and denied Another thing you call heresie and blasphemy is that wee say

that Christ hath enlightned all men but I shal lay downe your own words and prove you liers out of that booke called the General good to all people and you say the light of God that is in all men that is to wit natural conscience that it is sufficient if wee give heed unto it to discover sinne and and turne our minds towards God and that this light within is the grace of God and that it is Christ in us Answer Let all that reades that booke see if you bee not liers and slanderers and perverters and are in the generation of those false witnesses which bore witnesse against Christ and here I charge you to be liers Where in all the bookdoth he say that the light of a natural conscience is sufficient to guide to God if it be taken heed to or where doth it say it discovers sin there is another lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is the grace of God there is a third lie and where doth hee say that natural conscience is Christ in us there is a fourth lie bee ashamed that ever you should goe and present so many filthy lies to authority that there is no truth in at all Oh yee darke mindes would you be judging and prescribing what is heresie and blasphemie and cals the light of Christ paganisme and heresie but I am bold in the Name of the Lord to declare unto you and unto all the world that Christ is the true light that hath enlightned every one that comes into the world and that this light is spiritual and not natural and it convinceth of all sinne hee shal convince the world of sinne and whoso obey this light which shines into the conscience it leads up to Christ and out of sinne and it turns the mind towards God and it shines in darknesse but you dark sottish children know it not yea you that hate it have it and it shal condemne you and when the book of conscience shall be opened you shall be judged for all your hard speeches against the truth Another thing you present to be blasphemie and heresie is that the worship that is performed in England with those Ministers that sing Davids Psalms baptize infants weare double cuffes boot hose tops take tithes say men shal never be perfect in this world and that say the letter is the light and the letter is the word and that salvation is in the Scripture and that cals Matthew Mark Luke John the Gospel are seducers and no Ministers of the word but shew forth the Spirit of error Answer All those Ministers in England which abide not in the Doctrine of Christ all those worshippers and worships which is contrary to the Scripture are Heathenish and they worship they know not what and all such worship is an abomination to the true God and I charge you and all those that would be counted Ministers in England to prove from the Scripture where the Saints sung Davids conditions and Psalms in rimes and meter and where is there any Scripture for baptizing of Infants and whether any of the Ministers of Christ lived in pride and lusts of the flesh and where any Ministers of Christ took tithes which belonged to the first Priesthod and the first covenant and so they that uphold the first denie the second and the one everlasting offering which perfects for ever them that are sanctified and where doth the Scripture say that the letter is the word and the light but it witnesses against you and saith God is the word and Christ is the light and Christ is the Gospel yea the everlasting Gospel and Mathew Marke Luke and John declared of him and heare be you a witnesse against your self ye dark minded men and I charge you that you deny the Scripture and all those who upholds those things are in the heathenish nature without God in the world in the earth where the Divil dwels who is an accuser of the Bretheren and doth not the Scripture and they declare it who were Ministers of Christ that there were that ran after the errour of Balaam and their hearts was exercised with covetous practises and were there not such that was raylers and false accusers and blind watchmen and greedy dumb dogs and such as sought for their gaine from their quarter and such as lead into wichcraft and Antichrists deceivers you might as wel have called Christ and Paul and Peter and Jude Blasphemers and Hereticks but you are made manifest just to be them and in the same nature that called Christ a blasphemer and Paul a pestilent fellow and a setter forth of strange Gods and the Ministers of Christ seditious and thou might as wel say Christ despised a Governor when he called Herod a fox and now blessed be the Lord the houre of his Judgments is come and we freely declare against all deceit both in Magistrates Priests and people as they did that wrote forth the Scripture and beare witnesse to his name as they did in our measure and we have suffered and do suffer dayly by slanderous tongues such as you have and imprisonments and cruel mockings and stripes and bonds and can truly say to the praise of his name we beare in our bodies the markes of the Lord Jesus but we must passe through good report and evil report and it is our Crown and rejoycing to suffer for his name and now Gog and Magog and all the powers of the earth bends themselves and are angry even the nations that professe Christ in words and say the Scripture is their rule but walke not according to it and against all such hypocrisie are we witnesses to the fulfilling our testimony and the laying down of our lives that he alone may be honored who sits upon the throne of David and of whose Government there is no end to whom be praise for ever who shall breake all your combinations and plots and you shall be ground to powder who set your selves against him and be dashed to pieces as a Potters vessel And now to that which you call Antimagistratical errors that the magistrates are not to have titles of worshipful or right worshipful and that the Subjects of a Common Wealth which is not Israels Common wealth are to be disturbed and that no civil Government is to be acknowledged but the government of the Law within us Answer Where reads thou or any that any Magistrate was called worshipful or right worshipful or ever any of the Saints of God did so he that is righteousnesse and truth unto whom all honor and worship belongs God blessed for ever we owne and worship he is no respecter of persons And you filty flaterers who are in the curse respect mens persons and so you are rased out for ever from the faith of Christ and from the faith which all the holy men of God lived in that you know it not but you false accusers Magistrates we know and they are for the punishment of