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A86647 An ansvver to a paper; called, A petition of one Thomas Ellyson, late shepherd of Easington in the county of Durham, to his Highness the Lord Protector of England, Scotland and Ireland, and to all emperors, kings and princes through the world. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1654 (1654) Wing H3154; Thomason E814_10; ESTC R207351 12,201 16

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did do then thou calst to the Magistrates to put them to death And as for the worshippers of strange gods many in the county of Durham many other places let them declare whether they worshiped any but a strange god at a distance went after dumb Idols even as they were led while they followed the Ministry which was never sent but now is the Lord made manifest and the strange Gods are put away and broken and the false Prophets are seen and the Prophet is raised up which Moses spake of and whosoever hears not his words shal be slain with a sword And further thou tels the Magistrates That if any hypocrite shal presume to speak a word in the name of the Lord which he hath not commanded Even he shall dye and it is an old statute unrepealed Rep. If thou knew what thou spake thou hast given sentence against thy self I charge upon thee in the presence of the living God that thou never heard his word nor spake his word but in thy own name and I charge it again upon thee when did he ever speak to thee that spirit by which the prophets of the Lord spoke thou dost deride and calst it a miraculous Insusion and so thy spirit is another and not the same And that it is an old statute thou shalt know that thou hast spoken in thy own name and what thou hast learned by Tradition but in Christ all the law and the Prophets is fulfilled and all statutes who comes to witness him he is the lawgiver judg and king and all is fulfilled as he comes to be witnessed and all strange gods put away even the Idols of gold and silver and all false Prophets by him comes to be seen judged condemned and slain and thou that would put it upon the Magistrate without to kill men by a law and so to usurp the power which is given to the Son and so make them guilty of innocent blood thou art a murtherer And now to the further who must judg of the false Prophets of heresie schism and blasphemy I know thou denies Revelation and the rest of the priests in England who trade with other mens words and I know thou dare not say thou art infallible and thou hath not discerning of spirits the Apostle exhorted them who dwelt in the light to try the spirits but he bad not them who are led by the prince of the air were children of disobedience as thou art of a covetous earthly mind he bade not them to try nor them who were carnal and therefore stop thy mouth thou cannot discern a lamb from a dog nor a kite from a dove and let all Magistrates who fear the Lord either in this Nation or elswhere take heed how they judg of heresie blasphemy not that I am ignorant but that there is heresie and blasphemy but that none can judg who they are but who have an iusallible spirits therefore it is now as it hath bin many have suffred as heretiques as Christ for a blasphemer and the Apostles as setters forth of strange gods and were persecuted to death and many do and are like to suffer by this spirit that dwels in Thomas Elison and therefore all you who are Magistrates that sit as Iudges and Rulers take heed what you do and take heed of zeal without knowledg for so Paul persecuted and so the Iews slew Christ the heir and so many would have their will satisfied but thou must be judged by all who dwell in the light● and thou that sittest as Iudg over another see that thou be judged in thy self for to take your knowledge and dir●ction from such as these men in stead of planting you will be destroyers And thou art offended at some that hold forth new lights and gifts which thou sayst the word of God never taught us Rep. All who are taught by the word which is eternal are guided in one light for the light is but one and this is no new lighr but the same that ever was But thou that calls the letter the light and the word thou art blind and art a hater of the light from which the Scripture was declared And in the conclufion thou begs that Scholers and Universities may be preserved for the breeding of able Ministers to preach the word and hold out the Sacraments and this is the sum of all that thou and the rest of false Shepherds may be carried in the bosom of the Magistrates and so preserve you and destroy all that oppose you As for Lrarning it is natural I own it in his place but that it makes and breeds able Ministers I deny it and all those Ministers for many filthy frogs and unclean spirits have come out of the Universities that have spread over the Nations as Locusts without a King and all their Preaching and their Sacramencs is carnal and all their ability that is got by their trading leads people to be seven fold more the children of the devil I speak whaj I was a witness of wnilc I followed the chiefest of them And therefore I say unto you who are Governors hold not that up which the Lord hath cursed for that which is natural cannot lead up to God and therefore be ye all warned that you turn not back to build again that which God is destroying and threw out the King and Bishops and one Parlament after another and one power after another because they would needs limit the Lord o way to walk in And truly God will pour you out from vessel to vessel till you be emptied of all and till you give him all power and honour to rule over his Church and people that they may serve the Lord in freedom of spirit and not in the flesh and if any walk dssorderly and break any righteous law and walk in the flesh them execute your law upon there is your place But that yyu should prescribe a way for God to walk in he cannot he will not be bound and you that go about to limit him to any visible appearance shall be broken to peeces for his glory he will not give to another London 30 day 7 moneth This was I moved of the Lord to write in Answer to Tho. Ellison's Petition and to the Magistrates A Lover of all those that wait for the redemption of Israel called after the flesh Francis Howgill FINIS
AN ANSWER TO A PAPER CALLED A Petition of one Thomas Ellyson late Shepherd of Easingion in the County of Durham to his Highness the Lord Protector of England Scotland and Ireland and to all Emperors Kings and Princes through the world LONDON Printed in the Year 1654. AN ANSWER TO A PAPER CALLED A Petition of one Thomas Ellyson late Shepherd of Easinton in the County of Durham to his Highness the Lord Protector of England Scotland and Ireland and to all Emperors Kings and Princes through the world THere are many in the County of Durham that know that thou hast been a Shepherd lately enough and see thee what thou hast been and where thou hast been and where thou art now and knows thee to be one in nature with those Shepherds which the Lord sent Ezekiel Isaiah and Jeremiah to cry against who feeds themselves with the fat and cloathes themselves with the wool and that thou art one of those Shepherds that cares not for the sheep and art in the nature of one of those Shepherds which the true Prophets cryed against which were as evening Wolves and as Foxes in the desert And for the simples sake I am moved to lay open thy deceit that thou art one of those Foxes thou speaks of which hath fire in their tails and thou are made manifest to be of old Cains nature that old murthering spirit and with thy flattering titles which thon gives to men and hath mens persons in admiration because of advantage and thou art born after the flesh the son of the bond-woman who art petitioning to men that they may abuse their power and exalt themselves over the heritage of God and thou that wouldst have Laws to bind the consciences of men to walk after thy will thou art Antichrist and thou that art petitioning the Powers of the earth to make Laws to limit the Holy One of Isral But blessed be the Lord the day is come that thou and all deceivers persecutors and flatterers is discovered and many sees thee among Majestrates that thy spirit is the same that would command fire to come down from heaven to have destroyed them who would not receive them First Thou saith That Moses who was a Commander over all Israel that he was appointed to bear the people in his bosom as a nursing father and thou saith thou art a cryer for the remembrance of those things that all might be carried in their arms now and thou goes on and tells them that God will require the Government of his Church at their hands Rep. Moses who was faithful and true over the house of God who was a figure of Christ he did receive the Law from the mouth of the Lord he acted in righteousness and when Elead and Madad prophesied he was not angry as thou art but desired that all the Lords people were Prophets and all who wait upon the Lord to receive the Law of God from his mouth now and walk in the same they have the same spirit and they will not limit the holy One But thy cry that thou callest for is that thou wouldst have them who are in Moses stead as thou saith they are for to limit the holy One. And thou art the deceiver the Apostle speaks of which is gone into the world who would perswade the Majestrates that they must govern the Church and so thou wouldest have this generation of Rulers to be dash'd in pieces as all the generations have been before them in exalting themselves in the seat of Christ when as the Prophet saith The government is upon Christs shoulders and the Scripture saith He alone treads the Wine-press And therefore whosoever will assume unto themselves to govern the Church by an outward visible carnal Law shall be as sure to be broken as all the rest The Church is in God and is invisible and that which is visible and natural cannot make any law to bind that which is unlimited but they if they doe go about to limit the holy one of Israel and would set themselvs in his seat of Judgment and take away his glory which he will not give to any and all such as have made any laws in their own wills to limit sons and daughters they have all been broken as the Scripture witnesseth every where and therfore let all Governers in England Scotland and Ireland and all the world to whom thou writest take heed how they set themselves in the room of God and lay yokes upon the necks of them who are free by the Son and are brought by the power of the Lord from under the breach of all righteous Laws or transgressing any holy which is just for the law is for the lawless law not for them who are in righteousness but the law is for the transgressors who are in unrighteousness and they are those that act by that Spirit which dwells in thee who would levy troops for the Innocent and art wroth and thy countenance falls like Cain and hates thy brethren and would haue a law made over the conscience and would have the Powers of the earth to abuse their power in turning their swords against them who live in righteousnes and declare against unrighteousnes And further thou goest on and tellest them this was a law given to Adam and so thou pervertest the Scripture by thy imaginations Where readest thou of such a law given to Adam that he compelled his family to religion And further thou sayest Which care of government is in great neglect in this Nation upon respect to tender consciences sundry Sects and sorts of Schismaticks are suffered unsuppressed and they sacrifice to Dan and Bethel And thou goest on and tellest the Nobles that it lies upon their score that they should suppress them Ans That which was given to a particular family or people which was for its time is not everlasting So any that takes up any rule without them to act by acts not by precept but by tradition in their own wills God abhors that And thou bringest in the Old-Covenant which was given to a particular people the Jews but now the Priesthood is changed and the Law is changed and as for thy law which thou wouldst have the Governors of this Nation to make for suppressing of Sects and Schismaticks that worship at Dan and Bethel and thou sayest this is charged upon them But thou mightst have told them who they had been and where Dan and Bethel is lest they be mistaken as thou art that cals darkness light and light darkness But all that thou art troubled at is this that the light of Christ in the conscience should have liberty and here thou art he which is born after the flesh and art that Egyptian thou speaks of which persecutes the righteous seed It is true there are Sects and Schisms too many and Opinions they stand all in one ground and thou and they come out of one land Babylon is the land of your nativity in the light you are
seen that thou and they are turned from the light of Christ and so are gone into sects and opinions and imaginations and all the powers without in the world cannot suppress the root from whence these flow none can overcome the root from whence heresies and opinions come And therefore vain Shepherd and blind cease thy divining Those that thou woulst have supprest are those that break bread from house to house and meet together in the name of the Lord as the Saints ever did and this thou callest Dan and Bethel because they will not come to an Idols temple where all the deceived in the Nation worship an unknown God I say unto thee thy Steeple-house thy Idols temple which God never commanded where all lyars and fighters and swearers and night-birds and Scriech-owls meet and call it the house of God and where they speak nought but the imaginations of their own hearts and call them the ordinances of God and it the Church that 's Dan and Bethel And as for the Magistrates which thou tellest they ought to suppress the false Prophets thou mightst have declared who they had been But for the honest-hearted Magistracie and people I shall declare a little when they came in and who they are Christ sayes many false Prophets shall arise and Paul Peter John and and the rest they saw them come already then many Antichrists deceivers and then they came in as the Scriptures witness and they have deceived the Nations since and Christ saith by their fruits you shall know them and they are such as he cryed wo against which laid heavy burthens upon the people and such as were got into Moses seat and were called of men master stood praying in the Assemblies and had the chiefest place in the synagogue and Peter saith they followed after covetous practises and Jude saith they went after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards and Isaiah says they sought for their gain for their quarter and Ezekiel saith they were such as fed of the fat and Zachary saith they were as evening wolves and Paul saith they were covetous men heady highminded and lovers of pleasure and fierce despisers of those that are good aad had a form of godliness and they were witches that turned them back to circumcision and false Prophets when the substance was come And are they not so now who sue for Tythes maintain the first Priesthood and bewitch people and deny Christ come in the flesh Now let all judge where these are many in the North taking away the peoples Cows their pots and kettles and b●dding and one Priest sued one for two pence and two in York-shire sued one for one penny and another for a penny halfpenny and these are they that call themselves Ministers of the Gospel Shame shame blush houl you Caterpillars the hand of the Lord is against you And yet I would not have their lives taken away as thou wouldst have theirs that thou callst Sectaries but to that in thy conscience I speak which will let thee see that thou hast a busie mind and abidest not in the doctrine of Christ but art amongst the false Prophers And thou and the rest of them which are Merchants and tradest with other mens words which must have your Gospel and your Worship defended with swords and Staves and the power of the earth you are they that spread nets at Mispeh and Tabor for it s neither in Jerusalem nor this Mount but they that worship the Father worship in spirit and truth and thou that woulst confine God to a place to a day to a time and have him bound by a Law and the Saints how they shall worship him thou art carnall and thy petition carnall and all who have any honesty in them or light will see thee to be in the generation of the Pharisees that said they had a Law and by that law he ought to die And whereas thou art comparing thy self and the Priests of Newcastle and Durham to Sarah the Mistreis and them who oppose you to Hagar Answ Sarah never brought forth sons of Bondage as you are but you are truly Hagar the Egiptian who g●nders unto bondage for you and all the children that ever you have begotten or brought forth are in bondage till now and the Lord hath raised up a people out of the Dust to confound you and your wisdom and to declare against your profssi●on in laying heavie burdens upon the people and taking their money for that which is not bread and be ye all ashamed ye high Okes ye fat Bulls ye Diviners that cannot maintain y●u Gospel with all your parts and wisdom that you boast of against those contemptible things in your eyes but you must run to a carnall Sword or to a Justice of Peace or Constable to preserve you or to have them imprisoned stocks mockings and reproaches this is all we have or expect from the Powers of the earth because we speak the truth Be ye ashamed and lay your hands upon your mouths what Gospel is this they have preached what Worship is this you give unto God that must be defended with clubs and Staves and Stocks and whips stoning and haling before Magistrates and yet thou wouldst have them accounted Ministers of the Gospel they who were Ministers of the Gospel their weapons were not carnall but spiritual and they were mighty through God but the mightiness of this generation lies in the Magistrates sword to defend them and drive the people to pay them mony for nought And therefore let all Magistrates consider in this Nation and elswhere that you be warned how you make any laws against the innocent and how you uphold those that Christ cried woe against and such as the Lord sent his Prophets to declare against lest that come upon them which the Prophet spoke that they that help and them that are helped shall fall tog●ther And whereas thou further flatte●s them and tells them that they are in the room of Abraham for ordering the house of God to see that the seed of Isaac be inheritors which is like to be deprived by the Egyptian brood Rep. My defire is that they may be guided by the spirit of Abraham who denied his country and if they walk in the light they will be like him and will see that things be ordered in the Nation in righteousness But if they will take take thy word who is the Isaac that thou wouldst should inherit thou wilt present them Ismael But is it not the Inheritance of Tythes and Augmentations and to have people to fall down to worship the Image that they have set up that is it thou wouldst have ordered For who are of Abraham are of the seed which the promise is to and such you stir up the Magistrates by your slatteries and lyes and the people to have a law to keep them in bondage and so to them that dwell in the light he sees it is the Egyptian that thou wouldst