Traytor to partake of the Sacrament with his Disciples 4. Yet these pure Sectaries will none of our communion for that some unclean persons presume to come thither 5. To whom we answer as S. Augustine doth to Cresconius Lib. 3. c. 50. Et Epist 48. These evils are displeasing to the good we forbid and restrain them what we can what we cannot we suffer 6. But we do not for the Tares sake forsake the Field For the Chaffe leave the Floor of Christ For the evil Fish break the Net For the Goats sake refuse the Fold of Christ 7. When Religion was partly corrupted partly contemned in Israel and the Prophets cried go out from them and touch no unclean thing Did they then sever themselves from them In Evang. Serm. 8. I find no such thing saith Augustine yet doubtless they did themselves what their Prophets willed others to do 8. Hoc ergo est exire ore non Parcere hoc Immundum non tangere voluntate non consentire 9. Liber in conspectu Dei est cui nec Deus sua peccata imputat quae non fecit Neque aliena quae non approbavit Neque negligentiam quia non tacuit Neque Superbiam quia ab unitate Ecclesiae non â—â—cessit There is a necessity to have a certain Form of Liturgie for the publick Administration of all the Parts of Divine Worship in the Christian Church 1. THis certain and set Form of Publick Liturgie is necessary to entertain Uniformity in a National Church 2. There was such an one in the Eastern and Western Churches as it appears by their Liturgies which are in our hands 3. There is such an one in all the Reformed National Churches As in the National Reformed Church of France And in that of the Low-countries And in the Church of Geneva And in the Reformed Churches of Germany c. 4. By such a certain and set Form of publick Liturgie no wrong or injurie is done to the Holy Ghost as if one would undertake to inclose him within the Bars of certain Words For if that were true Christ should have committed such a fault because he hath given to his Apostles and with them to the whole Church an express and set Form of Prayer David also should have committed the like fault having given us in his Psalms so many Forms of Prayer of Thanksgiving and of confession of Sins Rather let us say that the set Form of Prayer of our Lord Jesus Christ and the Forms mentioned of the Prophet David being proceeded from the Holy Ghost the Will of God is that we make use of them to call upon him by prayer and to render thanks unto him by the very words of his Holy Spirit 5. And concerning the Ecclesiastical set Form which we require and commend by it we do not pretend to prescribe any thing to the Holy Ghost But besides the benefit of a National Uniformity our scope is to succour our common Infirmitie which is done when the Minister in the Administration of the parts of publick Divine Worship doth make use of the help of the Church thereupon and esteems it better to perform it in certain and set words then to let out from his mouth impertinent and ill digested conceptions and words 6. It is left to the liberty of every National Church to frame such a set Form of Liturgie §. The Reformed State and Church of England do condemn utterly and publickly Anabaptists Atheists the Family of Love and also the Separatists 1. ANd if notwithstanding that condemnation there be such in the State of England and secretly in the Church thereof so have there been alwayes Hereticks and wicked persons in the Church 2. And in respect of them the Reformed Religion of the Church of England is no more to be accused then the good Corn may justly be condemned because together with it many Tares and Weeds spring up and cannot be avoided §. From the time of the Reformation of the State and Church of England the Jesuites and Priests did never cease to trouble them and assault them 1. 1. IT is not unknown to the Soveraign Prince and also to the subordinate Magistrates of England how since the Reformation of the Religion and Church of that Kingdom the Adversaries Popes Jesuites and Priests have never ceased to trouble the State thereof and that by their Books in great number written and published and by all other means that possibly they were able to devise and also to defame that holy Religion of Christ which through Gods great mercy and the godly Laws of the Soveraigns is according to Gods word established in this State 2. What they have wrought with many of all Estates and how mightily they have prevailed with that strong and effectual illusion of Sathan which hath advanced Antichrist unto that Supremacie of Power Authority and Credit in the World whereof the Holy Ghost by S. Paul and by S. John hath foretold lamentable experience can witness And that in the backsliding and continual Apostating of many away from us to the final perdition of such Apostates to the grief of the Godly and to the great encouragement and comfort of the Enemy 2. ANd we have no doubt that all the English Jesuites and Seminarie Priests of Rome or of the Colledge of Rhemes are all most wilfully bent and earnestly disposed to do what harm any of them possibly can to the Church of England §. All the English Jesuites and Seminary Priests by their writings have gained nothing against the Reformed Religion of England 1. THese English old Souldiers of the Popish party Sanders Harding Allen Stapleton Bristol have imployed in the assailing of the Reformed Religion of England whatsoever Either Reading Or Leasure Or Cunning. Or Wit Or Diligence Or Malice Could supply unto them and for all this have gained nothing 2. Should New-discovered others of that kind that are not worthy to be compared with these hope to Reform that wherein they have failed §. Refutation of the Censure of the Manners of the State and Church of England made by the Jesuites 1. HE that reproveth the Manners of others it were meet that he should be without fault 2. Now is there so great a change made of Rome upon the sudden Is their Life now such Are there Manners begun to be so godly that the Jesuites being thence returned here Friers dare strive with us about Vertue Shamesastness and Honesty 3. Howsoever there be in England many things done which ought not to be done Yet if the Jesuites shall say that there is as great Impunity and Licentiousness of sins in England as they themselves have seen at Rome which is the very Towre of their Religion and Kingdom all men will judge them to be too too impudent 4. Surely as long as those publick Stewes and Dens of Whores stand still in Rome the Jesuites could scarce honestly make mention of Manners Of the English Service Book and of the Change in it since the
If they Remember how Christ promised his Spouse Perpetual Preservation Hos 2.19 I will even betroth thee unto me for ever Isa 59.21 As for me This is my Covenant with Them saith the Lord My Spirit that is upon thee And my words which I have put in thy Mouth shall not Depart out of thy Mouth Nor out of the Mouth of thy Seed Nor out of the Mouth of thy Seeds Seed saith the Lord from henceforth and for ever And Such Like Answer to this Third Objection 1. TO what Purpose doth this Objection serve the Popish Writers Or what Argument may the Perpetuity Of Christs Universal Church afford Them against our former Assertion 2. We Believe and Confesse to the Comfort of our Souls That Christs Church hath continued And shall never fail so long as the world endureth 3. And we account it a prophane Heresie to teach that Christs Universal Church hath Perished from the Earth at any Time For this Assertion shaketh the Foundation of all Faith and Religion 4. But the Popish Writers who makes this Objection Should prove by invincible evidence of Scripture That the Catholick Universal Church of Christ is nothing Else But the Outward Succession of the Roman See If They can Prove This They should Prove their Objection Soundly And should confute our Opinion Truely 5. But it is a Thing which They cannot Doe They cannot bring us Either Texts of Scriptures or Reasons To shew that Christs Church Either is the Popes Succession Or Else dependeth upon the same See 6. For as Touching External Shew And Succession of Churches The Scriptures have foretold Apoc. 12. and 13.16 That Antichrist shall Seduce Great and Small Rich and Poor Free and Bond And that the Church shall flie into the Wildernesse And there Remain Of all which no word could be true If the Catholick Church were tied To the Popes Chaire And the Popes Chaire were the Rock That cannot be removed 7. And yet notwithstanding this General Dispersion And the Flight of the Church under Antichrist The Catholick Church shall for all That Continue 8. Although not in that outward strength And Glory In which sometimes it hath appeared And Flourished 4. Objection Of the Popish Writers Against the above Exercitations That the Now Church of Rome is Changed And is not Now what it was in the Beginning What Impudence is This say the said Writers There was never Heresie that Assaulted the Church of Rome Of which it carried not the Victory As Over the Donatists Over Jovinian Over Pelagius the Britain And over Others Answer to this Fourth Objection 1. THe Triumphs of which the Popish Writers do boast of Are no more proper to the Now or Latter Church of Rome Then the Triumphs of old Rome Over Pyrrhus Over Annibal Over Perses Over Antiochus are to be esteemed the Triumphs of Rome Now Being 2. And for the pretended Victory over Pelagius the Britain we saw that he Triumphed over the Popish Kingdome For did he not Teach That Grace was imbred in Nature And the Popish Crew of Jesuites Defendeth the same Who seeth not then Pelagius sitting in the Popish Triumphant Chariot Popery is not of the first and Primary Antiquity That is many of the present Doctrines of the Church of Rome And in what Time Errors were received in it 1. PApists are not able to produce any Record Expresse and direct testimony Canon of Council or Ecclesiastical constitution For their burning Lights in the Church at noon day before the Decree of Pope Sabinianus in the year of our Lord 605. 2. Nor for Rome to be the Head of all Churches before Pope Boniface the Third in the year 606. 3. Nor for the Invocation of Saints in their Publick Lithurgy before Boniface the Fifth in the year 618. 4. Nor for their Latine Service thrust upon all Churches before Pope Vitalian in the year 666 which is the very number of the name of the Beast 5. Nor for the Cutting of the Host into three parts and offering one part for the Souls in Purgatory before Pope Seâ—gius in the year 688. 6. Nor for setting up Images in Churches Generally and worshipping them before Pope Adrian the First and the Second Council of Nice in the year 787. 7. Nor for Canonization of Saints departed before Leo the Third about the year 800. 8. Nor for the Orall Manducation of Christs Body in the Sacrament before Pope Nicholas the Second in the year 1053. 9. Nor for the entire number of seven Sacraments before Peter Lombard in the year 1140. 10. Nor for Indulgences before Eugenius the third in the year 1145. 11. Nor for Transubstantiation of the Bread into Christs body before the Fourth Council of Lateran in the year 1215. 12. Nor for the Elevation of the Host that the People might adore it before Honorius the Third in the year 1216. 13. Nor for any Jubilee before Pope Boniface the Eighth in the yeer 1300. 14. Nor for the Carrying the Sacrament in Procession under a Canopy before Pope Vrban the Fifth In the year 1262. 15. Nor for the Day and half Communion before the Council at Constance in the year 1416. 16. Nor for the suspending the Efficacy of Sacramental Consecration upon the Priests Intention before the Council at Florence in the year 1439. 17. Nor for the Popes Superiority to General Councils before the Sixt Council at Lateran under Leo the Tenth in the year 1517. 18. Nor the vulgar Latine Translation to be held for Authentical And upon no pretended Cause whatsoever to be reiected before the fourth Session of the Council of Trent in the year 1546. 19. Nor for the Second book of the Macchabees and the Apocryphal Additions to Hester and Daniel with the History of Bell and the Dragon which S. Jerome termeth a Fable to bereceived for Canonical Scripture before the said Session in the year above named 1. Fraude 1. These be the Principles and Grounds of Faith and Worship that the Church of Rome doth Produce 1. Scriptures 2. Traditions of the Apostles 3. The Catholick Church 4. General Councils 5. The Ancient Fathers 6. The Pope which she calls the Supream Pastour of the Church 2. These be the Fraudes of the Church of Rome Concerning all the Principles and Rules above Produced The 1. of those Fraudes is That the Church of Rome careth indeed for none of Them but for the last which is The Determination of her Pope 1. THe Scripture must not be Scripture in any other Sense then as the Pope will Expound So that the Scripture being the Meaning of the Scripture And the Meaing of the Scripture being the Popes Exposition Hereof it followeth That the Scripture is nothing else but the Popes Interpretation 2. So Likewise In Traditions In Doctors In Councils In Churches If any Thing Dissent from the Popes understanding and Determination It is Rejected Abolished Condemned 3. And Finally all Faith all Religion all Divinity of the Church of Rome is only the Popes Sacred will and pleasure
THat a godly man cannot with an entire Conscience retain and enjoy that which belongeth unto him but that he is to make common whatsoever means he hath 2. That a Christian man without wronging his conscience cannot exercise Marchandise nor Cookerie neither make Armes 3. That it is lawful for Wives to divorce themselves for different Religion and to marry with another Person which shall not differ in Religion The Spirit is not without the Word and must be examined by the Word of God against Anabaptistical Enthusiasts TRy the Spirits whether they be of God or no by the Word of God 1 Joh. 4.1 To the Law and to the Testimony saith the Prophet Esaiah if they speak not according to this Word it is because there is no light in them Esa 8.20 And if we saith the Apostle or an Angel from Heaven preach unto you any other Gospel than what ye have received let him be accursed Gal. 1.8 That is saith S. Augustine than what is contained in the Prophetical and Apostolical writings August contr tit Petil. lib. 3. c. 6. Of Schism and Schismaticks 1. SChisme is a Dissention or Separation when one or more separate and rent themselves from the outward fellowship of the Faithful cutting asunder the Peace and Unity of the Church upon some dislike of some Rites and Orders therein lawfully received and observed or else upon different Opinions about their Teachers 2. As Heresie is a departing from the Communion of the Church in respect of Doctrine so Schism is a cutting off ones self for External things An example hereof we have 1 Cor. 1.10 c. In these words every one of you says I am Pauls I am Appollos I am Cephas and I am Christs 3. There are two kinds of Schism one is Simple and without any conjunction of Error in Doctrine The other is Mixt that is to say that it is conjoined with some Error in Doctrine 4. It is not the Separation that makes the Schism but the Cause of the said Separation as the Doctors of the Cannon Law do teach 5. This cause of Separation must not be the corrupt Life and Manners of some Members of a particular Church but onely Errors Heresies and Idolatry 6. In this regard the Reformed Churches are not Schismatical Because for such a cause they have separated themselves from the Roman Church 6. It is rather the Roman Church which is Heretical and the Pope Head of the same because they have given the cause of the Separation by their Heresies their Idolatry their Persecutions and their Tyrannie 8. Before this Separation of the Reformed from the Roman Church there hath been great Schismes in her by the plurality of Popes which she had at the same times 9. There hath been also many Schisms in the said Roman Church by the Division of her Doctors 10. The Reformed Church do wish the Convocation of a lawful Council to reform the Errors and Abuses of the Roman Church 11. Besides the Roman Church other Churches have been Schismatical as that of the Donatists and of the Novatians who for some Faults of some Members of the Church did separate themselves from the Communion of the Church 13. There is a great danger in Schisme although it be not as great an evil as Heresie and therefore the remedy must be applied unto it as soon as it doth appear Of the False Religions in general and conjointly 1. Of Pagans and Gentiles 2. Of the Modern Jewes 3. Of Turks and Mahumetans which are all Enemies of the Church of God 1. Of Pagans and Gentiles 1. THe Pagans and Gentiles are ignorant of the true God of the truth of his Word 2. And among them some are found who not by consequence and as if they did not mind and mean it but by expresse profession do worship the Devil builds Temples unto him and render unto him Religious Worship 2. Of the Modern Jewes THe Modern Jewes which are now scattered among the Nations of the Earth are virulent enemies of Christ and of his Church for having persecuted the Saviour during his Life they injure him and blaspheme against him after his Death 3. Of the Turks and Mahumetans THe Turks and Mahumetans do preferre their Mahumet to Christ and do follow the pernitious Doctrine which the Alcoran doth propound unto them Of the False Religion of the Ancient Pagans in particular 1. THe Principle and the Rule of the true Religion is the Word of God 2. The Marks of the true Religion are 1. The true knowledge of the true God 2. The true Worship of the true God 3. The true Mean of Mans Reconciliation with God 3. Let now every one consider well whether all that is to be found elsewhere than in the Ancient Judaical Religion and in the true Christian 4. Truely not among the ancient Pagans 1. For instead of a Word of God which enlightneth us to Salvation there were but Ambiguous Vain Frivolous Oracles which did not speak neither of the Glory of God nor of Mans Salvation 2. Instead of the true God among them onely were found Devils Men and Idols 3. Instead of a sufficient Mediatour they only had Washings which pass not further then the skin Slaughters of Men Sacrifices of poor wretched condemned for their Crimes 5. How could there have been a true Religion among the said Pagans since they did not know nor had the true God how could there have been among them an assured and certain Religion since the true God did not speak unto them and how could there have been a saving Religion among them since the true God did not intervene in it What differences there are between the true God and the false Gods of ancient Pagans and Gentiles THe true God is stiled the Living God in opposition to the Heathen Idols which were without Life Sense or Motion 1. They had eyes and saw not ears and heard not hands and handled not whereas the true God hath no eyes yet seeth no ears yet heareth no hands yet worketh all things 2. The Heathen Idols were carried upon mens shoulders or Camels backs as the Prophet Esay excellently describeth the manner of their Procession Esa 46.1 2 3. But contrariwise the true God beareth his Children and supporteth them from the womb even to their old age and gray hairs 3. The Heathen Gods as S. Augustine observeth in the Siege of Troy saved not them that worshipped them but were saved by them from Fire and Spoile whereupon he inferreth what folly was it to worship such Gods for the preservation of the City and Countrey which were not able to keep their own keepers but the true God preserveth them that serve him and hideth them under the shadow of his wings Of the great multitude and diversity of the Gods acknowledged and worshipped by the Pagans 1. THe Assyrians worshipped as many Gods as they had Towns 2. The Persians had as many Gods as there be Stars in the Heaven and Fires on Earth 3. The
the following Informations 1. Of the Engl sh Service Book and of the Change in it since the beginning of the Reformation in the Reign of King Edward the 6. 234 2. See also of this Matter 247 3. Of the mention of Saints made in the Liturgie of the Church of England and of their Feasts keeping yearly 230 4. In the Worship of God Prayer and Preaching of the Word of God must not be severed one from the other 236 Chap. 3. Consisting in the following Refutations of Accusations 1. Refutation of this Accusation That the divers English Translations of the Bible are full of Corruptions 248 2. Refutation of this Accusation of the Jesuites That in the State of England and also in the English Church great Corruption of Manners is to be seen 233 Chap. 4. Concerning the Jesuites and Seminary Priests in regard of England with the following Exercitations 1. From the time of the Reformation of the Religion of England both did never cease to Trouble assault the Church the State of it 231 2. Great is the evil and harm that they did cause to that State 251 3. What they did alledge for their Justification of coming in England against the Laws of that State 254 4. Refutation of this Accusation That in England great cruelty hath been exercised against them and that in regard of their Religion 250 5. They are not to be spared in England by the Magistrate being both seducing Hereticks and seditious and treacherous Persons 237 6. There is great reason to prohibite their Books in England by the Soveraign 255 7. By many of their Books they have gained nothing hitherto against the Truth of the Reformed Religion of England 232 Chap. 5. Concerning the Anabaptists in England There they are condemned utterly and publickly according to Justice and Reason 230 Chap. 6. Of the Contentions and Differences that happen in the Church about Religion With three Exercitations propounded before See of them pag. 240 242 243 Chap. 7. Concerning Separatists with the following Exercitations 1. It must be for corrupt Doctrines And not onely for corrupt Manners that we may separate one from another in regard of Publick Assemblies and Exercises of Religion 225 Joyning to it this other Exercitation 227 2. There is a necessity to have a certain Form of Liturgie for the publick Administration of all the parts of Divine Worship in the Christian Church 229 3. Concerning Episcopal Government in the Church of England we have writ of it and commended it not long since in a Latine Treatise De Ritibus Ceremoniis Ecclesiae pag. 20 Chap. 8. Consisting in the Representation of two notable Duties of the true Members of the Reformed Church of England 1. The first is not to frequent Hereticks Seducers nor keep Familiar Society with them 238 2. The second is to be careful to entertain Peace and Concord 245 SECT 5. Chap. 1. Of Heretical Churches and Religious 1. Conjoyntly 2. Separately Chap. 2. 1. Conjoyntly With these Exercitations 1. Of Heresies and Hereticks in a full Thesis 2. Heresie is a dangerous thing and spreads soon over the whole Body of the Church and produceth woful effects 258 3. It is a false Maxime of the Jesuites that for not to be an Heretick one must have Communion with the Church of Rome and must acknowledge the Pope for the Head and Monarch of the Church 186 187 4. Of the Impudency of Error and of Hereticks in these times 258 5. Hereticks and Deceivers grace themselves with high and strange Titles and glorious Names to blear the eyes of the simple 260 6. The Divel often maketh of Women strong Instruments to dispread the poison of Heresie 261 7. Of the different kinds of the Hereticks Books and whether some of them may be tolerated 259 8. The Reformed must avoid the familiar company of Gods Enemies and of the true Religion for fear of being infected by them 261 Chap. 3. Of Heretical Religions separately as of Socinians and of Anabaptists Chap. 4. Of Socinians with the following Exercitations 1. Their Errors are in great number and in regard of the principal Articles of Orthodox Faith represented fully pag. 262 c. 2. Which Errors or rather Furors are short wayes to Mahumetisme and to Hell 266 3. In regard of the said Errors the Socinians are not comprehended by the Reformed under the Appellation of Reformed and true Churches 273 Chap. 5. Of Anabaptists with these Exercitations 1. They were in the beginning of the last Reformation divided in many Sects in Germany 266 2. Some of them maintained more Errors and some less but all of them did profess such Doctrines that they could not be suffered 1. Neither in the Church 2. Neither in the State 3. Nor in the Families See of them all pag. 267 c. 3. Against the Anabaptistical Enthusiasts we maintain That the Spirit is not without the Word of God and that it must be examined by the said Word of God 270 4. In regard of these Errors and Heresies the said Anabaptists are not comprehended by the Reformed under the appellation of Reformed and true Churches 173 5. Also in regard of them they are utterly and publickly condemned in the State and Church of England 230 Chap. 6. Of Schismatical Religions and Assemblies With these Exercitations 1. Of Schisme and Schismaticks in a full Thesis 270 2. It is a false Maxime of the Jesuites That for not to be Schismatick as also an Heretick one must have Communion with the Now Church of Rome and must acknowledge the Pope for the Head and Monarch of the Church 186 187 Chap. 7. Of false Religions Namely 1. Of the Pagans 2. Of the Modern Jews 3. Of the Mahumetans Chap. 8. Of these three false Religions conjointly 272 Chap. 9. Of these three false Religions separately 1. Of the false Religion of the ancient Pagans with the following Heads 1. Of the falshhood of that Religion conjointly 273 2. Of the different Degrees of the falshood of that Religion there being among the divers Religions of Pagans some manifestly impious and wicked 279 3. A great multitude of Gods and also diversity was acknowledged and worshipped by the Pagans 275 4. Condemnation of such Gods 1. They were not true Gods but Men Women c. 276 5. 2. And they were Devils who were worshipped by the Pagans under such names of Men and Women 278 6. Of the Differences that are between the true God and those false Gods of the Pagans 274 7. Why did not the true God the God of the ancient Jews in Rome find place among the false Gods of all the Nations conquered by the Romans 277 8. Refutation of the Plurality of those false Gods by the Sybils 278 9. Condemnation of the Worship of those Pagans 279 2. Of the False Religion of the Modern Jews with the following Exercitations 1. Of the falshood of that Religion conjointly 280 2. In what respects this false Religion is opposite to Christ. 281 3. Demonstration that
should raze their Names out of the Calender of Gods Saints or think otherwise then Reverently of them § Objection of the Popish Writers against this Declaration of the Reformed HOw say they can we esteem them to be Holy teaching that they did Erre Answer to that Objection 1. VVE Reformed do Answer That the Ancient Fathers are not in such Assertions contrary to themselves 2. Were not the Apostles Holy Men when they dreamed of an Earthly Kingdom in this World Yet this Opinion is contrarie to a principal Article of our Faith Were They void of Holiness when they believed that the Gospel was to be preached to the Jews onely Which is greatly Derogatory to the Grace of God and Salvation of his people Then every Error doth not overthrow all holiness in the servants of God 3. In the Primitive Church many Holy Fathers were infected with the Error of Christs Reigning a thousand years on earth who notwithstanding are worthily accounted Saints of God 4. Cyprian and many Godly Bishops with him erred about the Baptism Ministred by Hereticks Yet lost they not for all that the Opinion and Name of Holy Bishops and Fathers 5. All such errors mentioned were such as in the before named Fathers did not raze the Foundation of the Gospel § There is great difference between the Errors of the Antient Fathers And those of the present Church of Rome And Popish Doctors 1. THe Fathers slipt a little The Popish Doctors and Papists are fallen headlong into the pit 2. The Fathers were overseen through infirmide The Popish Doctors and Papists are blind of Malice 5. The Fathers scattered some Darnel in the Lords Field The Popish Doctors and Papists have plucked up by the Roots the good Corn. 4. The Fathers have suffered losse of this building being not agreeable to the foundation yet are saved The Popish Doctors and Papists overthrow indirectly and by good consequence the foundation it self And therefore continuing in these opinions what hope can they have to be saved § Examination of these words of Luther repreved by the Popish Writers That he was not moved though a thousand Austins Cyprians Churches be against him The Popish Writers BY these words say the Popish Writers Luther did shew that he was unmeasurable Arrogant and wilful Answer to that Accusation and Presumption 1. LVther's Spirit was far from this Insolent and Immoderate Presumption as may by his own words appear ‖ Contra Regem Angliae For he saith not that he more setteth by his own private judgment then he doth by all the Fathers and Doctors But he saith That he setteth against the sayings of the Fathers of Men of Angels of Devils the Word of the onely Eternal Majestie the Gospel And again immediately he saith The Word of God is above all The Majestie of God maketh with me That I care not though a thousand Augustines and Cyprians stood against me 2. Is this to set his private judgment against All the Fathers Is this Pride Is this Presumption Must Gods word and Majesty and Gospel yield to the judgment of Fathers be they never so many 3. Luther did not think so but meant this by the words alledged against him If Augustine or Cyprian or any other Father maintain any thing against Gods Word Luther or any other Minister of Christ may in such Case preferre his Judgement warranted by the word of God before theirs 4. If the Popish Doctors deny this they are not worthy to be called Christians 5. And yet closely They doe deny it in that they reprove Luther and condemn him for saying the same §. Objections against this Answer of the Reformed by the Popish Writers 1. Objection YOu Reformed say the said Writers can bring no Instance that ever the Ancient Fathers did so Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. HAve the Popish Writers forgotten what fell out in the first Council of Nice when the Fathers agreeing to dissolve the Marriage of Ministers were withstood by Paphnutins and yielded in the end Here one Paphnutius Judgement was preferred before all the other three hundreds of Fathers 2. And so oftentimes the Judgement of many hath been corrected by one S. Augustine saith Whether of Christ Contra Petil. lib. 3. cap. 6. or of his Church or of any other thing that appertaineth to or Faith and Life I will not say We not to be compared to him that said Though we But as he added If an Angel from Heaven shall Preach any thing besides that ye have received in the Legal and Evangelical Scriptures let him be accursed If we may accurse them how many and whosoever they be that Teach contrary to the Prophetical and Apostolical Scriptures then may we prefer our Judgement in such Cases before them 3. In another place S. Augustine saith August Epist 19. For all these namely Fathers yea above all these the Apostle Paul offereth himself I flie to Him I appeal to Him from all Writers that think otherwise Thus was S. Augustine bold to write even to S. Jerome and feared not any suspicion either of Arrogancy or of Heresie for the same 4. Such Account then must we make of the Truth that we must stand with it against all the world and not for the Reverence of mens Persons give it over or betray it or be afraid to defend it 2. Objection THough the Fathers in the Councils of Nice of Ephesus of Chalcedon had alledged no direct and evident Place against Arius and Nestorius and Eutiches yet the Christian People was bound to believe them grounding themselves onely upon the Catholick and Universal Faith of the Churches before them Answer of the Reformed to that Objection 1. THis is boldly and bluntly spoken 2. These Godly and Catholick Fathers Assembled in Council against these Hereticks Confuted them by the Authority of Gods Word and as it were did cut the throat of their Heresies with the Sword of the Spirit This is onely the Weapon then used And with this they prevailed 3. As likewise have all other godly Councils ever done against the Hereticks and enemies of the Church The Fathers have Errors and the Doctors of the Roman Church do acknowledge it 1. IT is confessed by our Adversaries that the Fathers had their Errors 2. And themselves in divers cases challenge and censure them 3. There is none of the Fathers saith Stapleton in which something erroneous may not be observed And Anselm saith in the books of those holy Doctors which the Church readeth as Authentical some things are found wicked and heretical And Mulhusinus the Jesuite We know the Fathers were men and erred sometimes 4. Before the Pelagian Heresie arose Augustine was deceived in the matter of divine grace and freewill And although the same Father is many times Orthodox in the Question of Purgatory yet at other times he varieth at least doubtfully from his own sounder judgment The Reformed justly exclude from the rule of Faith The Determinations of the Pope 1. VVE