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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A89229	Gangrænachrestum, or A plaister to alay the tumor, and prevent the spreading of a pernitious vlcer, like to have grown upon, and putrified the good report of Jo. Maddocks, and Henry Pinnell. Made up of a true relation (wherein the faults of the former impression by Master Edwards are revised, corrected, and amended) concerning some passages at Pool. / By the abused parties I.M. and H.P.	Maddocks, John.; Pinnell, Henry.	1646 (1646)	Wing M246; Thomason E353_12; ESTC R201080	22,021	31

contentedly undergone the calumnies and reproaches of ignorance and malice thōugh never justified face to face doth now at last onely relate the truth which will upon examination be found exactly as it is here reported So I conclude this and in the next place crave leave to observe foure or five things in the honest Gentlemans letter wherein I conceive will appeare some contradictions or mistakes whether weake or wilfull I will not determine 1. He saith in the beginning of his Letter that they were much infected with Antinomi●n errours and yet after saith that when they came to discourse together they did all punctually agree 2. He saith they were wonne into errour by the preaching of grace and justification and adds that they endeavoured to winne them out by the same meanes necessarily implying that the doctrine of grace and justification winnes both into errour and truth contrary to 2 Tit. 11.12 3. He saith they call grace and justification and that onely the preaching of Christ To which I must speake my knowledge that if he meanes all the doctrine of grace as well the foundation as the right building upon that foundation then its truth but if he meanes that they account nothing but the laying of the Foundation to be a preaching of Christ then its a great injury to them For though I cannot say that I am in every circumstance of some of their judgements which can I suppose scarcely be said of many Christians in any part of the Kingdome though agreeing in Fundamentals nay and in the maine of discipline also which likewise we finde frequent in the Scriptures eating and not cating regarding and not regarding of a day c. yet I know that they account the preaching of duties to be the preaching of Christ 4. Observe his Parenthesis that Master Pinnell might as well have charged the Holy Ghost with weakenesse as Paul which I leave to Master Pinnell and all judicious Christians to consider of 5. He saith that because enough was not allowed to those bare revelations they had prepared an argument as they conceived without exception viz. their oracle a supernumerary Sybill at least whose extasies they much confided in To this I must needs say that I conceive Master S. F. to exceed the bounds of Christian modesty in calling a distracted woman the Saints oracle for such I am confident he conceives them and shall leave him to another reekoning with their Lord and Master for that and likewise my selfe beard the invitation of Master S. F. and his brethren to see the woman wherein did appeare onely some kind of admiration at her condition and expressions with a desire of their visit hoping for assistance to her by it After which its most probable that some discourse was of Revelations and what God could doe to the end that the discoveries of Gods spirit to his people which spirit reveales all that the Saints know of God though never contradictory to his word should not be so reproached as too frequently it is But to my knowledge it was so generally conceived amongst them that she was distracted that my undoubted confidence is she was no oracle of theirs whose oracle I presume is the Spirit and word of God nor in their apprehensions a supernumerary Sybill though a Christians being in such a case may possibly cause not a little admiration in others And for their labouring to conceale it by intreaties and pretences I appeale to any whether more appeared then a desire that ignorant people and enemies to Christ and the Saints might not if possible take occasion by her distraction which was hoped to be but short now I heare is in a measure past as usually they doe in such cases to attribute the Saints afflictions to profession of religion In the next and last place I shall give a true account of the Question propounded and the arguments for the affirmative which upon their desire were propounded by me with very little if any addition and as exactly as possible in the same tearmes with the maine objections there made against them Quest Whether a man out of office or without an outward call having onely the name of a brother may in a continued speech vent his owne thoughts upon a place of Scripture before those to whom he stands no otherwise related Ans Affirmative 1. It s a duty required in the Scripture without restriction to length of time or number of persons 3 Heb. 13. exhort one nother daily whiles it is called to day 1 Pet. 4.10 every man as a steward of the manifold grace of God which he hath received must minister the same to others and the rule is as he hath received the gift 12 Rom. 6. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given us whether prophecy let us prophecy or an office let us waite upon our office whereas there is a distinction made betweene an office and prophecying so both must be done according to the proportion of faith as in the 7 verse More fully 1 Cor. 14.1 3 4 5 6 30 31 39. in the first verse is an expresse command to endeavour after for the Churches good the gift of prophecy and in the third verse is an explication of prophecy he that prophecyeth speaketh unto men to edification exhortation and comfort and in the fourth and fifth he wisheth that they did also prophecy that they might edifie the Church So in the twelfth verse seeke that ye may excell to the edifying of the Church and in the twenty fourth and twenty fifth verses implying prophecy to be the Saints speaking out the experiences of their owne soules he saith that thereby the secrets of unbeleivers hearts are made manifest since as face answereth face in the water so answereth the heart of man to man but farther in the twenty sixth verse he saith every one of them hath some gift or other a Psalme a Doctrine an interpretation which is supposed to be of Scripture a revelation all which he exhorts them to use in the Church and for the Churches edification This he speakes to the whole Church verse 23. and in 30.31 verses if any one without exception hath any thing for edification revealed to him the Spirit of God is not to be quenched in him the first is to hold his peace according to that in the 1 Thes 5.19 20. quench not the spirit despise not prophecying and then it s added for ye may all prophecy one by one that all may learne and all may be comforted which as it forbids the quenching of the spirit so it answers an objection that might be then and is now made against the speaking or prophecying of inferiour gifted Saints and those that are looked upon as weake ones in which answer is conteined two reasons why such should not behindered 2. that all may learne Gifts and Talents increasing by Usury 2● Mat. 2. that they might all be comforted by the growth and increase of gifts and graces in

he hath not spoken to them 4 Argument is drawne from the end of God in giving of gifts 1 Cor. 12.7 The Apostle having asserted in the fourth verse that the Saints gifts of what measure and kind soever of which he nominates divers 8 9 10 11 verses are by the selfe same spirit of God he concludes in the 7 verse but the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit withall And in the 5 Mathew 14. Christ to the Disciples speakes of it as the end of God in making them lights that they might shine and as an absurdity to Reason it selfe a thing which no man will doe to put a light candle under a bushell where no man shall have the benefit of it 5 Argument it is no where in Scripture contradicted but often encouraged and commended 11 Numbers 26.7 Eldad and Medad prophecyed in the campe Joshua complaining to Moses of their preaching Envyest thou saith Moses for my sake I would to God all the Lords people were Prophets Obj. Against this was objected by Master S. F. Moses wished that they were all Prophets but not that they should prophecy before they were Prophets Ans 1. None can prophecy before they are gifted and enabled to it 2. It cannot have reference to an outward call but to that which was the objection viz. Eldad and Medad who were not of the Preisthood prophecying by the spirit of God and Moses wish had beene very superfluous if when they were thus prophets they should not prophecy Againe in the 1 Thes 5.19 quench not the spirit despise not prophecying so that where the spirit of God is it ought not to be quenched nor prophecying by it but the spirit of God ●s in many Christians out of office therefore not to be quenched c. and Christ reprooves the Disciples for forbidding the man that cast out Divells in his name and tells them that no man that doth a miracle in his name can lightly speak evill of hime so likewise in the 1 Cor. 12. Chap. 1 3 4 5 v. The Apostle desiring that they might not be ignorant concerning spirituall gifts and speaking of the diversities of operations and administrations from the same Lord and the same Spirit he saith in the third verse that he gives this to be understood by the Saints that no man speaking by the spirit of God can call Iesus accursed the spirit of God cannot possibly dishonour Iesus Christ and no man can say that Iesus is the Lord no man can truly exalt Iesus Christ but by the Holy Ghost so in the 12 of Mathew Christ having by the spirit of God cast out a Divell the Pharises accused him blaspheming the spirit of God of casting out Divells by Beelzebub the Prince of the Divells now observe Christs answer in justification of any thing done by the spirit of God after his conviction of them by their own children and the impossibility of a house standing which is divided against it selfe he saith in the 28 verse if I cast out Divells by the spirit of God then the Kingdome of God is come unto you and in the third verse he that is not with me is against me he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad now gathering must be by exhortation c. and the Scripture restraines not to method or forme in it and farther its added in the next verse as a check or reproofe of those that undervalue and slight the Spirit of God wherefore I say unto you all manner of sinne and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall never be forgiven and whosoever shall speak a word against the sonne of man c. intimating the wilfull quenching despising of the spirit of God to be a sinne of the highest nature or as Marke hath it brings in danger of eternall damnation because they said he hath an uncleane spirit 6. Argument Those that haue not improved their Talents by gathering with Iesus Christ have been sentenced and condemned Mathew 23. he that had but one talent and kept it 〈◊〉 a napkin is accounted an unprofitable servant and bound hand and foot and cast into outer darknesse and in the aforenamed 〈◊〉 of Mathew he that gathereth not scattereth abroad 7. Argument That which is especially authorized a Call in Scripture is a sending and enabling by the Spirit of God to Preach the word of God 10. Rom. 15. compare with the 23 Ieremiah 10. R●●…enes how shall he preach except he be sent it implies that if he be sent he can Preach yet many of those that have been sent with the outward call pleaded for could never Preach the glad tydings of the Gospell of Peace which sent ones are there spoken of with reference to the Peoples beleeving upon the discovery of the Gospells glad tidings by them compare with it the 23 Ier. 21. I have not saith God sent these Prophets yet they ranne which sending is expounded in the latter part of the verse I have not spoken to them yet they Prophecyed So in the 16. verse they speake a vision of their own heart and not out of the mouth of the Lord saying they shall have peace c. Yet these in the 13 and 14 verses were Prophets of Sanaria and Prophets of Ierusalem outwardly called and in the 〈◊〉 verse the Lord saith expresly that if they had stood in his Counsell and caused his people to heare his words a blessing should have attended their Ministry they should have turned them from their evill waies and from the evill of their doings It was there affirmed by Mr S.F. that the Lords complaint here was that they were not sent with an outward call which if they were not then 1. First it must be cleared why they are called Prophets of Samaria and Prophets of Ierusalem 2. Secondly it must necessarily follow that God will blesse the endeavours of men without an outward Call which stand in his Councell and Prench his word and not the visior of their own hearts verse 22. I have now as briefly as I can related the truth not so much if at all for my own vindication as for the Saints and the Gospells sake both which have been so slandered and undermined by pretended Friends FINIS ERRATA In the Title page for Desertè reade Diserti Pag. 4. lin 24. for dealts r. deale p 9. l. 11. for ●ame r. name l. 15. for right right p. 11. l. ● for borther r. brother p. 18 Adde 2 to the beginning of l. 25. p. 19. l. ●2 for never r. ever p. 22. l. 15. for Christians r. Christian There be many mistakes in stops and points which being but Punctil●●●●'s of Grammar and servants to vvaite upon an Emphasis in Oratory I have left by reason of my absence from the Presse to exercise thy judgement and charity