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follow_v origenes_n read_v hom_n 4._o in_o exod._n hom_n 17._o in_o numer_n and_o hom_n 9_o in_o josua_n 8._o call_v you_o this_o patch_v to_o put_v two_o verse_n of_o scripture_n together_o what_o think_v you_o of_o s._n paul_n which_o do_v the_o same_o rom._n 3._o 10_o 11._o join_v together_o a_o part_n of_o the_o 1._o and_o a_o part_n of_o the_o 2._o v_o psal._n 14._o as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v by_o compare_v the_o place_n together_o you_o have_v best_o count_v he_o a_o patcher_n of_o scripture_n 9_o say_v also_o that_o the_o latin_a translator_n and_o beza_n which_o in_o that_o place_n read_v tenetis_fw-la you_o hold_v and_o the_o syrian_a interpreter_n retinetis_fw-la you_o hold_v fast_o montanus_n that_o read_v prehenditis_fw-la you_o lay_v hold_v etc._n etc._n that_o all_o these_o do_v falsify_v scripture_n and_o be_v he_o indeed_o so_o ignorant_a as_o he_o make_v himself_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o signify_v to_o hold_v fast_o how_o else_o will_v he_o 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belong_v to_o his_o resurrection_n etc._n etc._n therefore_o etc._n etc._n here_o the_o minor_a be_v apparent_o false_a logician_n etc._n etc._n contra._n this_o poor_a logician_n be_v much_o to_o be_v pity_v 1._o do_v he_o not_o see_v that_o the_o conclusion_n of_o his_o argument_n must_v be_v this_o therefore_o david_n speak_v not_o of_o the_o not_o leave_v etc._n etc._n which_o be_v clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o text_n 2._o if_o he_o in_o deed_n may_v make_v the_o replyer_n argument_n for_o he_o he_o will_v make_v he_o as_o senseless_a and_o absurd_a as_o himself_o 3._o he_o gross_o mistake_v the_o replyer_n argument_n which_o be_v this_o the_o descend_v of_o christ_n soul_n to_o hell_n belong_v not_o to_o his_o resurrection_n but_o the_o not_o leave_v of_o his_o soul_n belong_v ergo_fw-la the_o not_o leave_v etc._n etc._n prove_v not_o the_o descension_n this_o argument_n though_o he_o invert_v and_o pervert_v at_o his_o pleasure_n he_o be_v not_o able_a to_o evert_v with_o all_o the_o skill_n he_o have_v 11._o the_o replyer_n confound_v not_o hell_n and_o the_o grave_n which_o be_v more_o heathenish_a in_o he_o so_o to_o imagine_v then_o in_o the_o other_o so_o to_o write_v but_o join_v together_o two_o usual_a acception_n of_o the_o word_n sheol_fw-mi neither_o do_v he_o bury_v his_o soul_n but_o his_o life_n thereby_o signify_v in_o the_o grave_n and_o yet_o to_o take_v infernum_fw-la for_o the_o temporal_a death_n and_o grave_n be_v neither_o heathenish_a nor_o absurd_a unless_o you_o will_v count_v augustine_n heathenish_a who_o expound_v that_o place_n psalm_n 88_o 3._o my_o life_n draw_v near_o to_o hell_n by_o those_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n my_o soul_n be_v heavy_a unto_o death_n 87._o quod_fw-la enim_fw-la aijt_fw-la tristis_fw-la est_fw-la anima_fw-la etc._n etc._n for_o that_o he_o say_v my_o soul_n be_v heavy_a unto_o death_n this_o be_v the_o same_o that_o be_v say_v my_o soul_n be_v fill_v with_o evil_a and_o that_o which_o follow_v unto_o death_n the_o same_o be_v say_v my_o life_n draw_v near_o to_o hell_n etc._n etc._n 12._o these_o word_n in_o hell_n be_v not_o express_v because_o the_o replyer_n ground_v no_o argument_n upon_o they_o but_o only_o by_o set_v down_o the_o first_o word_n have_v reference_n to_o the_o whole_a pprophecy_n there_o contain_v for_o in_o other_o place_n where_o there_o be_v cause_n he_o omit_v they_o not_o as_o limbom_n p._n 74._o 13._o though_o the_o hebrew_n word_n sheol_n be_v indifferent_o take_v sometime_o for_o hell_n sometime_o for_o the_o grave_n yet_o in_o this_o place_n act._n 2._o 27._o the_o replyer_n contend_v throughout_o that_o whole_a discourse_n that_o it_o signify_v the_o grave_n and_o therefore_o to_o say_v he_o translate_v it_o hell_n be_v according_a to_o his_o usual_a manner_n to_o fitten_v and_o forge_v of_o he_o 14._o the_o replyer_n cit_v not_o the_o word_n of_o the_o text_n rom._n 1._o 3._o but_o only_a show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o opposition_n between_o the_o flesh_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n to_o add_v those_o word_n of_o sanctification_n no_o more_o than_o other_o word_n of_o the_o text_n 15._o as_o though_o it_o be_v not_o a_o usual_a phrase_n in_o scripture_n to_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o spiritu_fw-la when_o it_o must_v be_v understand_v by_o or_o through_o the_o spirit_n as_o eph._n 2._o 22._o in_o who_o you_o also_o be_v build_v together_o to_o be_v the_o habitation_n of_o god_n by_o the_o spirit_n so_o ride_v not_o beza_n only_o but_o vatablus_n the_o syrian_a interpreter_n the_o geneva_n and_o the_o authorize_v english_a translation_n let_v he_o accuse_v these_o also_o of_o violent_a intrusion_n 16._o but_o the_o apostle_n also_o say_v in_o a_o other_o place_n that_o christ_n once_o suffer_v for_o sin_n 1._o pet._n 3