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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93367	The heads and substance of a discourse; first private, and afterwards publike; held in Axbridge, in the county of Somerset, about the 6th of March, 1650. Between Iohn Smith of Badgworth, and Charls Carlile of Bitsham, &c. on the one part; and Thomas Collier of Westbury on the other. Things they are of weight and highest concernment. / Published by the said Tho. Collier of Westbury.	Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691.; Smith, John, of Badgworth.; Carlile, Charles.	1651 (1651)	Wing S4091; Thomason E1368_2; ESTC R209287	11,613	29

it be God or not They answered it is God yet not communicated to the saints I answered it is in them it dwels in them they are made partakers of it Where the Lord the Spirit is there is liberty 2 Cor. 3. 17. and Joh. 14. 16 17. I will pray the Father and he shall give you another Comforter and he shall abide with you for ever even the Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive because it seeth him not neither knoweth him but ye know him for he dwelleth in you hence take notice that the true cause why the wise men of the world do not receive this truth is because they see him not neither know him ignorance is the cause of errour upon this account it was that Christ was crucified upon this account it is that his Spirit is blasphemed this oneness in the Spirit of the Son is a mystery hid not only from the world but in a measure from the Saints too But verse 20 at that day viz. the day of Christs appearing in the revealing of this truth to his people then they shall know that I am in my Father and you in me and I in you at that day they shall know the spiritual union and indwelling presence of Father Son and Saints together But one Parson Eaton and Doctor they call him Parson of the Town newly come there a traveller and one I suppose lately come from Rome I judge it so both by his bitterness inraged spirit set on fire of hell and likewise his principle which he declared he speaks to this purpose if this be a truth then the Saints are God for to whomsoever the Spirit of Christ is communicated they are no longer man but God they must of necessity be God I answered there is no truth in what you affirm I shall make it appear to you thus Christ you will grant was made partaker of the Divine nature the essence was communicated to him and yet he retained his humane nature his manhood was not turned into or confounded with the Godhead he answered that the manhood of Christ was God that God was made man and man was God I denyed it desiring him to prove it he answered I might as well desire him to prove that there was a God as to prove the manhood of Christ to be God in conclusion he produced John 1. The word which was God was made flesh and dwelt amongst us And Acts 20. it is said that God purchased his Church with his own bloud c. I answered the Word was made flesh that is compared with 1 Tim. 3. 16. manifest in flesh great is the mystery of Godliness God manifest in flesh else you destroy the humanity of the Son and his bloud is said to be the bloud of God 1. Because it was the bloud of him who was taken into special spiritual union with the Father Believe me saith Christ the Father is in me Joh. 4. 2. Because it was that bloud the Father had appointed for the manifestation of his love and the expiation of sin yet not of the essence of God This principle that God is man and man God is Jesuitical and came from Rome 8. Particular 8. He affirmed that the bodies of the Saints should be turned into Spirits To which I answered this I own as the Scripture holds it forth viz. Into spiritual bodies it s the word of the Apostle 1 Cor. 15. It s sown a natural body it s raised a spiritual body they answered that Spirits have no bodies therefore if raised Spirits then no bodies for bodie relates unto flesh I answered sin is not flesh and bloud yet called a body that the body of sin might be destroyed c. they said it was called so Metaphorically and so are the Saints in the Resurrection called bodies in regard of its likeness or manifestation to the creatures apprehension for there are Celestial bodies and Terrestial bodies earthly heavenly spiritual fleshly The Apostle saith that flesh and bloud cannot inherit the kingdome of heaven they answered that the Apostle intended by flesh and bloud corrupt nature sin that must be done away I answered the Apostle is not treating about the Resurrection of corruption or corrupt nature but of the body flesh and bloud which cannot inherit the kingdome for the kingdome of heaven is spiritual and only spirit shall inherit it Thou fool that which thou sowest is not quickned except it die that is die to its old nature and form and he giveth it a body as pleaseth him to every seed his own body not the body or likeness of the first man which is of the earth earthly but of the second which is the Lord from heaven this being the mysterious work the Lord hath to effect in and upon his people to bring them out of the nature of the one into the nature and glory of the other The ninth Particular 9. He affirmed that the Moral Law was abolished The truth was and it was assented to that the Moral Law was abolished to believers as held forth in the hand of Moses but unbelievers are still under the Law for whatsoever the Law saith it saith to them which are under the Law Rom. 3. 19. but believers are not under the Law Rom. 6. 14. therefore the Law saith nothing to them they answered that was they are not under the condemnation of the Law nay but the Apostle saith they are not under it therefore the Law viz. as in the hands of Moses saith nothing to them for there is a great mysterie in the right understanding of the difference between the dispensation of Law and Gospel Moses and Christ The Law came by Moses grace and truth came by Jesus Christ He viz. Parson Smith asked if I denyed the Law and whether there was no Law to believers I told him No I knew a Law under which believers were he professed he knew no other Law then the Law of Moses I told him if he would confess his ignorance I would tell him of another Law he said he knew it not I answered there is a Law of Grace both within and without That within is the Law written in the heart promised in Jer. 31. and made good in the Gospel Heb. 8. That Law of the spirit of life spoken of by Paul Rom. 8. which made him free from the Law of sin and death this Law is the light and guide of Saints whosoever hath not this Law within him is none of his Rom. 8. 9. 2. There is a Law without likewise the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the Law of Love a light and guide likewise in our weakness and childhood unto the heavenly Canaan He answered this was all one with what he held I answered nay for he held still to the Law of Moses he asked if believers should act contrary to the Law of Moses I answered nay not in the substance of it yet it behoves them to know the difference between Moses and

Christ Law and grace I produced Rom. 7. the woman is bound to the law of her husband so long as he liveth but when her husband is dead she is free from that Law ver. 4. wherefore my brethren ye also are become dead to the Law by the body of Christ that ye should be married to another that as a woman is dead to the law of her husband so are believers dead to the Law and as a woman is at liberty to marry with another and then is subject to the Law of that husband even so believers being married to Christ live to him are subject to him that so they might bring forth fruit unto God At this Scripture he was at a stand I prest him to answer the Scripture he refused saying I brought Scriptures which were not to the purpose nor have any tendency to the thing in hand and would not answer it thus thinking to shift out when he could not answer But I desired him then that he would give the meaning of that Scripture to the people that so they might be satisfied in the truth of it if I did misapply it he endeavouring to wind out refused but being earnestly pressed to it he answered that notwithstanding believers were made partakers of Christ yet the Law was holy and just and good I told him it was a truth but nothing to the truth intended in that Scripture and desired him earnestly to speak to that Scripture he then answered that believers were freed from the rigor of the Law I answered again that in substance he granted what I affirmed for if believers be not under the rigor then they are not under the command for its the command which occasions the rigor the transgression of the Law occasions the rigor I farther produced 2 Cor. 3. where it is said the Law is done away and abolished ver. 11. and 13. and it s the Moral Law that 's there intended as appears verse 7. It was that which was written and ingraven in stone He answered that it was true that the ministry of the Law was done away but not the Law it is the ministration of it that is there intended I asked him then why he did preach the Law plead for it if the ministration of it was done away the truth is that as the ministration of it as it is death so the ministry of it is to work up souls into its righteousnes for deliverance from death so in the Gospel though a Gospel of grace and peace yet those who reject it shall be damned therefore is the ministry accompanied with it for the working up of souls into its grace and peace If it be objected that the Law was never given that men might seek or obtain life in it but Christ was life then as well as now I answer its truth the Law was in it self a ministration of death and not of life yet under that dispensation the wisdome and way of God was such to his people as that they first looking into that Law seeing how far short of life they came in their not performing of it might look above unto that righteousness which was presented in it much like unto the fiery and brasen serpent the one bites the other cures and this was the constant way and course of the Lords communicating himself unto his people but now the manner of the dispensation is changed and all things are made new the way of God to his people is first to bring them into view of his goodness and to possess them with his love and then from the same principle and power of love gives forth a Law within a Law without which is a Law of love in which there is no condemnation to them who walk not after the Law of Moses but the Law of Christ not the Moral Law in the hand of Moses but the Law of grace in the hand of Christ who serve not after the Law of a carnal command but after the power of an endless life not in the oldness of the letter but in the newness of the spirit But to return he asked me what was the difference then between the Law in the hand of Moses and the the Law in the hand of Christ I answered as much as between life and death in the one the ministration of death in the other the ministration of life if the ministration of death was glorious how much more shall the ministration of the Spirit exceed in glory Thus my noble friends have I given some brief hints of the substance of the Discourse passing by those many vain and antick behaviours which would be a shame to repeat in persons pretending for truth and honesty and this I leave with you as my apprehensions in the things declared Let those who have the spirit of light and truth judge for the spiritual man judgeth all things though he himself be judged of no man FINIS