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A86648 The common salvation contended for, and the faith which was once delivered to the saintsĀ· Or, An answer to a book called a plain answer to eighteen queries of Iohn Whitehead, put forth by William Kays, who calls himself minister of the Gospel at Stokesly; wherein he hath perverted the faith once delivered to the saints, and pleads for those things which the Scripture declares against, and so he is made manifest, not to be a minister of the everlasting Gospel, but preachesanother [sic] Gospel. The queries laid down, and the substance of his answer, with a reply to his answer. / By one who is a friend to all, who wait for the appearance of Iesus Christ without sin to salvation, known to the world by the name. Francis Howgill. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1655 (1655) Wing H3155; Thomason E824_3; ESTC R18577 18,636 20

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sin he had not known sin but by the Law so thou hadst not known the anointing had not he Scriptures declared it and thou sayest without it there is nothing to be known here thou blind guide thou puts the Scriptures in the room of God and wouldst exalt it above God and hast made thy folly manifest that thou never knew the anointing but by hearsay and if thou hast not had their words who witnessed the anointing in themselves thou hadst not known whether there had been such a thing and thou that knows nothing but without thee knows nothing at all and yet the Scripture is able to make wise unto salvation and perfect the man of God through faith in Christ Iesus but of the man of Gods estate thou knowest nothing of who art pleading and holding up those things which the men of God witnessed against V. Query Whether thou own Christ to be the light of the world and hath enlightned every one yea or no VI Query Whether thou own the word of Iohn 1. 9. where he witnessed Christ to be the true light which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world Answ. Thou saith thou thinkst it s not amiss to declare that Christ is not onely the light of the world through Revelation but in works of miracles and meritorious sufferings and as he gives to all creatures the light in their Creation Reply Thy thoughts are vain and not as Gods thoughts he is but one who is the light of the world and in him is no darkness at all the light is but one and the same light in which he lives the same light the Saints lives in who are guided by him who is the light and the light is but one in him that loves it and in him that hates it the one he loves it and the other he hates it and thou that art making distinctions of the light art divided from the light and so makes many lights by thy imaginations and so perverts the Scripture And where readst thou of meritorious suffering of Christ in the Scripture nay thou art so ignorant of him who is the true light and hath not so much as a form of sound words and where reads thou of such a distinction of natural and spiritual light in Christ thy rule shall try thee and thou shalt be judged by it for in thy serpents wisdome thou wouldst darken the counsel of God and rent the Scripture in pieces by thy imaginations and thou never knewst what the light of Christ was and never shall comprehend it with all thy distinctions and though the world is in darkness yet the light shines in darkness but this is a mystery and sealed to thee and therefore thou wouldst give thy meanings upon their words who were in the light VII Query Whether it is not blasphemy to call the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world a natural light and whether they do not deny the Scriptures that say that every one is not enlightned with the true light yea or no Answ. Is light by just consequence and not otherwise called naturall so the light may be called supernatural which is properly called Christs light and thou tells of ordinary lights Reply Thy consequences are denyed thou art in the Philosophy and vain deceits where reads thou in Scripture of a natural and supernatural light and where reads thou that the light which is in every creature is ordinary light and ●● thou goe●t on to prove that there is two lights in Christ and that the light of Christ is natural and spiritual and so would make two Christs is Christ spiritual and is that which is his light natural a natural man understands not the things of God but the light which comes from Christ which is but one not divided but is spiritual it leads to an understanding of the things of God and that which may be known of God is revealed in man but thou art ignorant and blind and cannot comprehend it that which is natural is carnal and so thou wouldst make a carnal Christ as one like thy self affirmed who called himself a Minister of Christ but he that loves the light is led up out of darkness to the light of life and he that hates the light it s his condemnation and he is but one that judges and saves his people from their sin and in the last part of thy answer thou sayest thou acknowledgest the light of the Law of Christ to be more or less in the light of nature here again thy ignorance is made manifest Paul said the Law was spiritual and the Law of the spirit of life in Iesus had freed him from the Law of sin and death was that natural is Christ spiritual and his Law natural for shame be silent and speak not of the Law it is holy is that natural and thou speaks of putting the light of Christ under a bushel and some that destroy Christs light thou blind Pharisee thou art he that puts the light of Christ under a bushel that walks in those things and pleads for those things which they declared against and thou art he that goes about to destroy Christs light which is pure and eternal and calst it natural and supernatural when the light is but one and thou that wouldst divide the light art divided from it and walks not by it and so art in darkness till now and thou saith further that as Christ is pleased he can by the preaching of the Gospel open thine eyes and turn them from darkness to light here again thy shame and thy nakedness appears hast thou professed thy self a Minister of the Gospel and a teacher and are thy eyes unopened yetart thou yet unturned from darkness unto light then darkness speaks and wrote the book and darkness cannot comprehend the light and wouldst thou be judging of the light and of Christ that is yet in darkness for shame own thy condemnation for what thou hast done in speaking in the name of the Lord he accepts no such testimony nor the testimony of them that walk in darkness and not in the light and he will judge thee who is the light for perverting the truth in thy dark mind and thou confesseth that thou art blind and thine eyes are not yet opened then how canst thou declare of him whom thou hast neither seen nor heard and here be a witness against thyself VIII Query Whether the true light of Christ which enlightneth every one that cometh into the world which discovereth all the deeds of darkness is not sufficient to lead all those that love and follow him into holiness and all truth seeing Christ who is the light saith that those that follow him shall not abide in darkness but have the light of life Answ. To this thou answers Yea it is when it is revealed and in thy answer to the third Query thou saith there is nothing that can be known but by the Scriptures and so here
against thy Ministery that it perfects none into holiness and into the Image of God and thou sayest thou hopes we may see in the Epbes 4. 13. Concerning the fulness of the stature of Christ and further by faith then all our defects imperfections and sins are not imputed as therby God may apply the righteousness of Christ whereby we may see no transgression in Jacob we are and all Believers must come to the measure of the perfection of Christ Reply What Paul spoke to the Ephesians we know is true but what is this to thee and those who are out of Pauls way and life in the way of the false Prophets and of the Scribes and Pharisees and the defects and imperfections and sins must lie upon your own head for Christ will be no cloak unto you in your iniquities to cloak your hypocrisie and deceit if you had faith then should you be purified from Imperfection for faith is perfect and so are all that live by it and for thy word apply the righteousness of Christ it is not the language of the spirit of God which gave forth the Scripture for the righteousness of Christ is not to be applied to the head of the wicked nor to cover wickedness but to destroy it but where sin stands it will be imputed for God cannot acquit the wicked and he that sins is not of Iacobs seed but of Esaus and the righteousness of Christ is not unto that birth and thou and all thy Believers who art in defects and imperfections and in your sins art in the stature and measure of Cain and Ishmael and not of the stature of the same God who art free from all unrighteousness and defects and imperfections XI Query Whether they be not Ministers of Antichrist and never were sent of Christ that deny perfection which they are sent of Christ to bring unto yea or no Answ. Nay they are not Reply here thou hast manifested the ignorance and confusion who in thy answer to the nineth Query said it yea it was the end of sending faith the Ministers for the perfecting of the Saints and now then sayest they are not Ministers of Antichrist which denyes perfection and so speaks a plain contradiction and so out of thy own mouth shalt thou be condemned and let all whose eye is open see and behold thy deceit and blindness and so also manifest thy selt that thou was never sent of Christ who hath brought up none to perfection But sayest they are not Ministers of Antichrist that denies perfection and yet sayes the Ministers of Christ was sent to that end to bring up unto perfection and further thou sayest that exhorting the world to look to the light that is within them they shall never come to perfection none must think or imagine Reply Here thou hast uttered Blasphemy and quite contrary to Christs own words who saith I am the light of the world he that follows me shall have the light of life and this is perfection and be it known unto thee and unto all that no other light we direct or exhorts unto but the light of Christ within which is sufficient to lead to perfection as Christ himself saith his light leads to the light of life all that walk in it and thou saith contrary and so speaks-against Christ and would make his light imperfect and not able to lead to perfection and part found an enemy to him and mayest stop thy mouth for shame who art ignorant of the Scripture and whilst thou professes it art found both walking and speaking contrary to it XII Query Whether he that is born of God do commit sin yea or no and whether he that committeth sin is of the Devil yea or no Answ. He that is born of God is exhorted to repent and may be deluded and thou affirmatively says that those that are born of God may sin as all the Saints have experienced Reply Here thou more plainly hast shewed thy self to be a perverter of the Scripture and one that speaks contrary to it for he who is born of God is the Image of God and needs no repentance he which was born of God was commended by God and not exhorted to repent as that Scripture which thou hast named Rev. 2. shall witness but he which was fallen from the birth-born of God was exhorted to repent and thou sayest he that is born of God may be deluded and the Scripture saith it is not possible that the elect should be deceived and here again thou speaks contrary to the Scripture and thou sayest affirmatively that those that are born of God may sin and here again thou speaks contrary to the Scripture which saith he that is born of God cannot sin Now let shame cover thy face and let thy own conscience convince thee that thou art a perverter of the Scripture to thy own destruction and so art unlearned and without true experience for that experience and those Saints which thou speaks of which experiences that which is contrary to the plain words of Scripture which was the experiences of true Saints is damnable experiences and servants of the Devil and cannot be believed by them who are true Saints and have true experiences according to the working of the holy Ghost in them and further thou sayest that Scripture 1 Iohn 3. 8 9. may be hard to be understood yet taking good notice the truth is easily reconci●ed and thou sayest this is his meaning that the child of God sinneth not after the similitude manner or measure or nature that the devil his reprobates sins so to make good what thou sayest thou hast added to Iohns words his seed remains in him whereby he shall repent him of his sin this last thou hast deceitfully added as also hast added after the similitude manner or measure or nature that the Devil and his reprobates sins let all seareh the Scripture and see if Iohn speak any such thing and so gives thy sensual meaning of Iohns words quite contrary to what he spoke for further he said he that sins is of the devil and never knew God and thou affirms he that is born of God which know God may sin and so divides the Scripture and adds thy own imaginations unto it and so thou mayest read thy portion in it God will add all his plagues unto thee and truth needs no reconciling for it is in verity and cannot be understood by thee who art unlearned and therefore thou wrests it and further thou sayest a child of God being renewed through Gospel-repentance sins not devil like unto death or damnation Reply O thou blind Pharisce a child of God needs no repentance and all sin is of and like the Devil his image the Scripture saith he that sins is of the Devil thou sayest contrary and speaks of sin not to be like the Devil and here again art speaking contrary to the Scripture And further thou sayest thou dost say that the child of God as he