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A85141	The Holy Scriptures from scandals are cleared. Or An answer to a book set forth by the baptizers; to wit, Henry Hagger and Thomas Pollard, entituled, The Holy Scriptures clearing it self of scandals: but is scandalled or perverted, and so scandalized by them, as in this answer to theirs will further appear, so by them entituled, or bearing the title of an Answer to a book written by Richard Farnsworth, called, Truth cleared, or Truth lifting up its head above scandals: occasioned by a dispute at Harliston in Staffordshire, between Richard Farnsworth and Thomas Pallard, in the year, 1654. Also here is in this, the heads of an order, or late act made at Coventry, by the baptized people there, ... And something here is, in answer to a false prophet, called John Griffith, set out by him and several others, in a false prophesie or book, bearing the title of True Gospel faith, collected into 30 articles: or in the middle part called, A voice from the Word of the Lord, ... / Written by a servant of the Lord, in the sixth moneth, 1655. by R.F.	R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666.	1655 (1655)	Wing F487; Thomason E855_1; ESTC R202126	43,362	61

Henry Hagger and Iohn Griffith are though they may have a forme of godlinesse from the letter yet denying the light and life or power of godlinesse in the Spirit they are to be turned away from and denied Thy Queries and considerations differs somthing in the name yet little in the nature or matter but to them I shall returne this answer as followeth To thy first that the light which is of the Spirit of God in man which doth convince him of sin the transgression of the law 1 Joh. 3.4 if it be obeyed and followed it will lead as it doth us him out of darknesse and sin into the light of life Joh. 8.12 and so into the life of the law and not from it which is the end of thy Queries for the righteousnesse of the law is fulfilled in such as walke not after darknesse and the flesh but after the light and so after the Spirit Rom. 8.3,4 or in short and to thy Question in breife that the light of God in man doth not lead him contrary to his law and testmony in the Spirit But according to it and so through the law into the Gospel so that there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walke not after the flesh but after the Spirit Rom. 8.1 and therefore thy lie and slander in thy first Querie turnes back upon thee againe and also those in thy second who art given over to lie and speake falsly as thou hast done And to thy second such as despise the light of the Spirit and the living truth and undervalue the light of life Joh. 8.12 preferring the letter before it and set the letter above the Spirit they must needs be in darkness and so the God of this world hath blinded their mindes as he hath done thine and such liers and false-accusers of the light and the truth least the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the image of God should shine unto you and unto them 2 Cor. 4.3.4 But the Scriptures we do not undervalue as thou saies nor dispise these are two of thy lies neither do we walke in darknesse no more then such did that preferred the light of the Gospel above the letter and were Ministers of the light and Spirit within and not of the letter 2 Cor. 3.6 and they preached not themselves but the light and the Lord Jesus as we do and said God who commanded the light to shine out of darknesse did shine within them even in their hearts as it doth in ours to give us the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ and this treasure have we in earthen vessels that the excellency of the power may be of God and not of us And they that preached the light and the Lord Jesus they had the same light c within them which thou being in darknesse stumbleth at 2 Cor. 4.5.6,7 Colos 1.27.28.29 3. That true light which is of God in man the Scriptures declareth of and according to Psal 119 130 where it saith The enterance of thy words giveth light which words had enterance in David before he spake or writ them then the words that giveth light or the teachings of the Spirit of God that giveth an understanding is within as David witnessed who said Light was sowne for the righteous and gladnesse for the upright in heart Psal 97.11 and the law of his God was within him even in his heart Psal 37.31 and the word were hid in Davids heart Psal 119.11 which word were as a lampe and so a light to him even the word of God in his heart but thou would have the letter to be the word and the light and there thy designe and also deceipt is seene And in thy 5th thou asketh what that light which is in any man teacheth him more then the Scriptures teacheth him I answer that the Scriptures witnesseth with the light and the teachings thereof yet the light teacheth such as obey it when they have not the Scriptures or Printed Bible to looke on and teacheth such as obey if they be not book learned and teacheth them more then the Scriptures yet hath taught thee that art given over to lie as in thy latter part of that Querie also where thou saies thou hast seene an end of all perfection then an end thou saies of that light that these men pretend c The light that we do not pretend only but witnesse also is that light which is without end and was in the beginning with God Joh. 1.1.2,3,4,5 which light darknesse cannot comprehend therefore take notice of thy slander and lie if thou have seene an end of that light hast thou not seene an end of God who is light 1 Joh. 1,5 and also of his work When thou hast considered of it acknowledge thy rashnesse and folly for the light which is our witnesse will witnesse against thee for it and reprove thee in secret for acting and speaking so contrary to it which light is the condemnation of such as hate it which light doth reprove and forbid thee for doing evill which light the Scriptures witnesseth with as in thy 5th yet the letter is not the light as thou would therein have it and though the Scripture be profitable for doctrine for reproofe for correction for instruction in righteousnesse that the man of God may be perfect and thorowly furnished unto all good works it is through faith in Christ Jesus and so through the light Joh. 1.9 Joh. 8.12 as the first and cheife or moving cause and therefore the light is more then the letter take notice of that for the light and Spirit is the convincer and guides such as obeyeth it into all truth and sheweth things to come revealing also the deepe things of God so doth not the letter do that which is the worke of the light and Spirit of God though it declare of it and witnesse unto it Iohn 16. 1 Cor. 2.9.10 Thy sixth is whether there was not a greater light in the Lord Iesus then ever was in any man else or ever shall be and thy seventh is whether he did not declare it and make it known by his words and actions more then ever any man else could do I answer that Iesus was the true light and is according to those two Scriptures which thou hast cited John 1.9 and John 8.12 And as he is called the light of the world so did he call them that saw with his light and were in it the light of the world also as in Mat. 5.14 and for manifesting it more by actions c he said that it was the Father which was in him that wrought the works John 14.10 and he said also that what he did some should do and greater works also John 14.12 and there was great works done by others from the same light and power or working of the Father in them and for words there was such spoken after he had sent them the Holy Ghost

5.4.5 c. they ate not as John Griffith falsely saith and these Scriptures and the faith and birth spoken of in them and the light we also own who walk in it and are not as John Griffith saith therefore he hath prophesied or spoken other three lies and more also in the name of the Lord and hath manifest thereby his false Prophecy and himself to be a false Prophet as it is considered of and known And he goes on with his lies and speaks them in pretence of the name of the Lord saying and saith falsely thus saith the Lord ye have said it is in vain to serve God and what Profit is it that we have kept his Ordinances c. John Griffith when didst thou hear us say so here thou false Prophet that art without proof for thy lies I testifie unto thee from the witness for God that the Lord never so said unto thee nor sent thee to prophecy those lies in his name neither didst thou ever hear us and the righteous seed say as thou falsely hath done and therefore thou art one that prophecies lies in pretence of the Lord who never said that he would fire root and branch of the righteous seed though reproached by the name of Nazerens or Quakers c. as thou sayes and so thy lies and false Prophecies hath laid thee open and made thee manifest to be a false Prophet And we who fear the living God and serve him that keep his Ordinances and walk humbly or mournfully before him do testifie against thy lies and false Prophecies whom thou and the Serpents seed revilest and reproachest under the nick-name of Quakers And since we knew God and his word Oracle Worship and Ordinances never said that it was in vain to serve him and therefore thou hast added thy fifth lye Neither did we say that are in Covenant with God that it was in vain to keep his Ordinances since they were delivered unto us God is our witness which witness is greater than the witness of men 1 John 5.9.10 c. therefore in that thou hast prophecied falsely and added thy sixth lye Neither did we say nor ever declare it to thee that it was in vain to walk humbly or mournfully before the Lord in that as well as the other God is our witness before whom we appeal and to the truth of it his ●pirit doth witness with ours that obey him and walk humbly before him Rom. 8.14,15,16 And therefore John Griffith thy prophecy is false and in that thou hast added thy seventh lye in thy false Prophecy And therefore from the spirit of the Lord in obedience to the word of the Lord this do I declare and testifie which shall stand a witness against thee and thy lying and false Prophecy wherein thou sayes we are spiritually proud when we are not for that is by us denied as well as all other pride and therefore in that thou hast prophecied falsely and added thereunto thy eighth lye Wherein thou goes on in lying saying that we are proud Pharisees and Hypocrits c. but hath not so proved it therefore thou hast added thy ninth lye Thou sayes that we boast of our light within but boasting we deny and all Pharisaicallism and Hypocrisie and that is thy tenth lye Yet the light we own and follow else we should deny Christ who is the light of the world that lighteth every man that commeth into the world John 1.9 and such as follow him as he hath said are by the light led out of darkness into the light of life as the Scripture declareth which we witness with Col. 1.27 John 8.12 Thou sayes in thy false Prophecy that we neglect the weightier matters of the Law that is thy eleventh lye And the Law it self that is thy twelveth lye p. 3. For righteousness mercy and true judgement c. is the weighty matters of the Law for he hath shewed it unto us and therefore walking humbly before him and doing justly loving mercy c. Mica 6.8 we do not neglect neither the weightier matters of the Law nor the Law it self Rom. 8. for the righreousness of the Law is fulfilled in us that walk not after darkness and the flesh but after the spirit and spiritual light and Law within which doth condemn unrighteousness and sin Rom. 8.2,3,4 as the Scripture witnesseth And thou sayes amongst the rest of thy lies that the Scriptures is the Rule of faith and conversation when Christ and his Spirit is both the way and guid into all truth John 14.6 John 16.13 and so into faith Heb. 12.2 and a holy Converstion for without me saith he ye can do nothing then not believe without him and he is both the Authour and finisher of faith that calleth also into an holy Conversation for saith the Apostle as he that hath called you is holy so be you holy in all manner of cōversation 1 Pet. 1.13,14,15 Take notice of thy contradiction to Scripture and thy error in that who hath thereby added thy thirteenth lye Thou sayes we erre not knowing the Scriptures nor power of God that shall stand for thy selfe which is also thy fourteenth lye For the Scriptures are they that testifie of Christ and that we know as they also witness of themselves where Christ saith search them but he is the life and ye will not come to him that ye might have life that are such enemies to him like their example that were lyars and false accusers like you And as the Scriptures testifie of Christ John 5.39.40 so do they also testifie of the power of God unto salvation Rom. 1.16 which power we know and witness unto and in with the Scriptures that testifie of it and therefore thou John Griffith hath told that fourteenth lie And thou sayes we are they that perish page 3. but such as are kept by the power of God and are thereby saved do not perish which power and salvation by and in it through the Lord Jesus we witness and so do not perish as thou falsely saith and therefore thou art charged with that lie which makes the number fifteen Thou sayes that the Scriptures without faith in Christ for thou leaves that out is able to make a man wise to salvation and to furnish him thoroughly to every good work page 3. when it is Christ that doth it and thou hast belied the Scriptures for thou hast left out the chief and moving cause to wit Christ and faith in him and sayes the Scriptures are able to do it when the Apostle tells Tymothy that the holy Scriptures were able to make him wise to salvation c. Through faith in Christ Jesus 2 Tim. 3.15,16,17 and he saith that Christ is the giver and so both the Authour and finisher of faith Heb. 12.2 and the Apostle prayed that the Colossians might be strengthened and so furnished according to the working of his glorious power giving thanks unto the Father which made them meet to be partakers of the

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES From Scandals are cleared OR An Answer to a Book set forth by the Baptizers to wit Henry Hagger and Thomas Pollard Entituled The Holy Scriptures clearing it self of Scandals But is scandalled or perverted and so scandalized by them as in this Answer to theirs will further appear so by them Entituled or bearing the Title of an Answer to a Book written by Richard Farnsworth called Truth cleared or Truth lifting up its head above Scandals occasioned by a dispute at Harliston in Staffordshire between Richard Farnsworth and Thomas Pallard in the year 1654. Also here is in this the heads of an Order or late Act made at Coventry by the Baptized People there subscribed with the names of seven Elders and Brethren as they say in the behalf of the rest and set forth from them sent to Shittington in Warwickshire shewing whom they denyed to be Ministers and Members of Christ c which is set down in this and several Considerations or Observations and Answers thereunto And something here is in Answer to a false Prophet called John Griffith set out by him and several others in a false Prophesie or Book bearing the Title of True Gospel Faith collected into 30 Articles or in the middle part called A Voice from the Word of the Lord with at least an hundred lies numbred up out of the Books as aforesaid being answered such as are of concernment and they are with the other sent to them back in a bundle or number as herein will appear and being cast out now truth stands pure and clear Pror 18.18 The lot causeth contentions to cease and parteth between the mighty Written by a Servant of the Lord in the sixth Moneth 1655. by R. F. London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Sign of the Black Spread-Eagle at the West end of Pauls 1655. To the Reader and whom it may concerne c. READER instead of an Epistle I shall lay downe a few of the particulers or affirmatives in that act or law made by the water baptized people at Coventry and sent to Shittington signed or subscribed at the end with the names of Mannasses King an Elder and Jefford Youngbone an Elder John Murdock Francis Blabby John Fairbrother George Copson and Thomas Hardway Brethren who from Coventrey say they subscribed it in the name of the rest c. And from them I shall lay downe some observations or answers thereunto The second thing which in that Coventrey law or late Act is that they say they deny any to be Ministers of Christ and the Gospel or to speak in the Church that say they speak from or by an internall light prove it not by the visible rule of the Scriptures c. And by this rule and law though God be light 1 Joh. 1.5 and dwell within in his people 2 Cor. 6.16 1. Joh. 4.4 yet he must be debarred or limitted and not suffered to speake in the Church except he confine himselfe to the letter of the Scriptures and that is contrary to his former actings for to be limitted and who are you that dare presume or offer to seeke to limit the holy one of Israel As much as to say though Abraham Isaack and Iacob were endued with the Spirit of God yet except they could prove what they said by the words of Adam Enoch and Noah they might not be permitted to speake from the Spirit of God in the things of God revailed and made knowne unto them thereby Though Moses Aaron Caleb and Joshuah might be guided by the Spirit of God yet except they could prove by words from Abraham Isaack and Iacob what from the Spirit of God they had to declare they might not speake of the things of God but be denyed to be any Ministers or Messengers of God Though Samuel and the rest of the Lords true established Prophets that were by him called and sent and could witnesse that the Lord God and his Spirit did call establish and send them yet if they said so and said they spake from an internall light or the Spirit of God within and could not prove by Scripture or the writings of Moses and those before them all that that they said they might not be suffered to speake but be denyed to be the Ministers and Messengers of God Though the Ministers of the new Covenant had the light and the heavenly treasure within them 2 Cor. 4.6.7 and were guided by the Spirit of God Rom. 8.14 who made them able Ministers of the new Covenant not of the letter but of the Spirit 2 Cor. 3.6 and they was not to serve in the oldnesse of the letter but in the newnesse of the Spirit Rom. 7.6 yet if they said they preached from an internall light or the Spirit of God within them c. and denyed to prove all they said by the Scripture or to serve in the oldnesse of the letter and not Minister from the Letter but from the Spirit in which their Ministry stood they might not by these baptized people be suffered to speake but be denyed to be any Ministers or messengers of Christ though his true Ambassadors take notice you Baptizsts of your errour herein and acknowledge the same and own your condemnation thereupon And where you say you deny any to be members of Christ that either goe themselves or suffer others to goe heare them that preach from an internall light c. Here you are against Christ the true light and against the Ministry of the Gospel and against the Kingdome of Christ in the Spirit against the new Covenant and the doctrine of the Apostles also that were Ministers from the light and the life of the Spirit within which you deny and they were Ministers of the Spirit and not of the letter and said to others try all things and hold fast that which is good 1 Thessa 5.21 Here you are against the Scriptures also that would deprive people of a Christian liberty that so binde them by your law contrary to the Gospel and contrary to the doctrine of Christ and his Apostles for the true Christ saith Preach the Gospel to every Creature but you would not have every Creature to heare it Preached by the Spirit in the power of light in the endless life that so denies them liberty to heare those that are Ministers of the new Covenant and not of the letter but of the Spirit 2 Cor. 3.6 so hereby your Spirits are discovered and made manifest to be Antichristian Againe you say you deny liberty for any to object in the Churches either in the time of speaking or after c. In this you have denyed the true Spirits order who said If any thing be reveiled and that is not by the letter but by the Spirit 1 Cor. 2.10 to him that sits or stands by let the first hold his peace and let the other speak c. 1 Cor. 14.30 But you say the contrary and therefore you have crossed the Scripture and denyed the

true Spirits order to further make manifest your disorder and also your Spirit of delusion and errour And again you say God will judge the secrets of all hearts by the written word or letter of the Scripture when the Minister of Christ saith the contrary who saith that God will Judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ Rom 2.16 then not by the lettet of the Scripture and the Son saith All judgment is Committed unto him and the Father hath given him authority to execute judgment also because he is the Son but he hath not given authority to the letter of the Scripture to execute judgment because it is the letter of the Scripture and declareth or testifieth of the Son but is not the Son then the Scripture is not the judge of all hearts but the Son is so to wit the judge of all hearts as the Scripture declareth Joh. 5.22 and Joh. 5,26.27 Act. 17 31. Take notice how you would deprive Christ of his Kingly office and take the authoritie from him to put upon the letter and hath againe thereby further manifested your Spirit of errour THE HOLY SCRIPTURES Are cleared of Scandals OR AN ANSWER TO A BOOK Written by Thomas Pallord Henry Hagger As they say In Answer to a Book set ●orth by Richard Farnworth wherein they pretend to clear the truth of Scandals but are found Lyars and the Lyes is sent them back in a bundle or number that they may see their deceipt and Spirit or Lies Errors and Slanders THo Pallord and Henry Hagger who are mighty in the work of your Father John 8.44 you pretend to clear the truth of Scandals but of it are Lyars and Scandallers and evil Speakers and false Accusers and therefore that you may take notice of the fruit of your Fathers Spirit by which you are guided and taught to lie I have viewed your work or scandalous and deceitful Book and gathered out of it being numbred up the sum of 60 and odde or Threescore Lies and more besides many that I have passed by these being sufficient for to manifest your Spirit and the deceit of your heart as also severall lies gathered out of a Paper written or caused to be Printed under the name of John Griffith oue of the water Baptizers with you or in your number and I hare also sent them back amongst you into the lyars Generation again take them and keep them for they are returned back upon you and into the lyars generation from whence they came that Truth may be kept clear and you appear in your lying colours or be laid open who are such great deceivers unto your shame who hath taken upon you to slander and revile the Lotds people by you in disdain called Quakers and also to Prophesie or publish your lies in pretence of the Lords Name But to bo wort I shall lay several of them down return them back upon you from whence they came Tho Pollard Thou hast set down things which I neither spoke nor writ and says I affirmed them when I did not and therefore thy gronnds being lies that which springs out of them is so as well as thy Grounds or Heads but I turn them under and drive them back with the rest of thy Lies into the Serpents seat ugain lyars Generation from whence they came E●…or or Lie the first In thy third page Thou says it is such a deceipt that they that say they have no sin the truth is not in them but thou cannot prove thy saying therein whose fallacy is laid down in that word they which includes any when the Scripture says not so as thou dost and therefore in that thou hast lyed of the truth and truths friends as it appeareth And here thou goes about to prove that Christ and such as are in him hath no truth in them and that is contradiction to the Scripture and the Spirits Doctrine for thou fetbheth Christ in with them and includes all in that word they saying They that say they have no sin the truth is not in thom as much as to say They that are without sin are without truth and have no truth in them but Christ and such as are in him are without sin Therefore if they say they are without sin there is no truth in them as thou says for that is contrary to thy proofless Argument Pollard or Hagger whether of you laid it down take notice of your folly therein here thou would by that have Christ and such as are in him to have no truth in them see what a trick the deceit hath taught thee in that for first it is said of Christ That he sinned not and so was without sin for no guile was found in his month and therefore he was without sin and the truth was in him contrary to thy lying of him for he is both the way the truth and the life Joh. 14.6 and is without sin but full of truth and such as abide in him they sin not as saith the Scripture 1 Joh. 3.5,6 then such as abide in Christ sin not as the Scripture saith they are without sin 1 John 3.9 and the truth is in them for such said That as he was so was they in this present world 1 John 4.16,17 Pallard take notice of thy Errors and Lies and also of thy contradiction of the Scripture For they that did abide in Christ and sinned not 1 John 3.6 they were so far trom being without truth or having no truth in them that they were full of grace and truth for the Spirit of God was in them which was truth and no lie 1 John 3.24 And secondly the word of God was in them 1 John 2.14 and they were strong in the Lord and the power of his truth for they had overcome the wicked one and the word of God were abiding in them and so the truth of God abode within them for saith Christ to his Father Sanctifie them with thy word thy word is truth John 17.17 Then they that had overcome the wicked one and were sanctified through the truth and were without sin having also the word of God abiding within they were full of truth and not without it or no truth in them take notice of thy absurdities and lies for they had the holy Unction within them that were without sin and that was truth and no lie 1 John 2.20 and 27. and greater was he that was in them then he that was in the World 1 Iohn 4.4 take notice of thy lie and that trick of thy deceit Error or Lie the second Thy second Lie is that thou saies we boast of perfection perfection in and by Christ we own else we should deny the truth and the worke of grace according to the working of the Spirit of God as it is witnessed according to the Scripture and by the Ministrie of Christ in the new Covenant Math. 5.48 and Eph. 4.11.12.13 1 Cor. 2.6 Heb. 6.1 Heb. 12.22.23 but though we witnesse

thy lies as I have done That one Scripture thou didst mention of Ananias going to Saul and saying Arise brother Saul and be Baptised and wash away thy sins whereupon I asked thee if your water Baptisme did or could wash away sins and thou stood and gave little or no answer therein as many can witnesse And if nothing can wash away sins but the blood of Christ or the water of regeneration then it must needs be that the Baptisme which washeth away sins is either by one Spirit into one body 1 Cor. 12.13 and so into Christ Gal. 3.27 and into the blood or life of the Covenant or else into the holy unction and water of regeneration where there is but one faith one Lord one God and Father of all them that are borne of the Spirit and so Baptised into that one Baptism Eph. 4.4.5.6 But thou couldest not witnesse that your outward water Baptisme did or could wash away sins then it is not that Baptisme which doth and being confounded in thy selfe thou would have gon forth of the doores but that I took thee by the arme and stayed thee awhile and spoke to thee till thou could not tell what to say for thy selfe but said the letter which thou called the written word and the Spirit were inseparable and then said the letter was a Historie And I told thee if I should have called it a History then others would have been ready to have called that blasphemy and being put to prove thy sayings thou could not but to thy shame got from mee and went away and they of thy own company spoke to thee of it and were grieved to see thy folly so made manifest as many can witnesse but in that I cease and let the other book witnese in that thing and the rest further to and for the truth against thy deceipt And in thy 32 lie Being so accustomed to it thou saies we wickedly speake against Christ and his ordinances But wickednesse and wicked speaking we deny who own honour and dearly love the Lord Jesus Christ and his ordinances speaking wickedly against them shall stand for thy selfe and such liers and false accusers as thou art and that is thy 32 lie And in thy 33 lie Thou saith that when I asked thee whether thy water Baptism did or could wash away sins in thy book to make a cover and manifest thy lying Spirit the more in that as well as in the rest of thy lies thou hast done thou sayes thou told me such words as is expressed in thy 17. page when there was then no such thing by thee done and therefore in that thou hast lyed of thy self but lying is thy work and that Spirit which guides thee is accustomed to it And in page 19 thou sayes we have a spirit of delusion that is thy 34th lie comming from Hell and darkness but cannot prove it yet that spirit by which thou art taught of old Antichrist to delude which hath caused thee to utter these lies is such a one and therefore what thou art guilty of thou would cast upon us but we deny thy spirit of delusion and lies and testifie against it and thee and such hellish darknesse as thou art possessed withall that regards not what falsely against us and the truth thou ventest but it toucheth us not and therefore turnes back upon thee againe and is to be cast into the bottomless pit from whence it came Lie the 35 that spits out such venome against the ordinances of Jesus Christ that is thy own and turnes back upon thee againe for Christ Jesus and his ordinances and worship in Spirit and spiritualI ordination we honour and own but spitting of venom comes out of thy brest take it into thy old bottle from whence it came And for thy 6th thing or head is another of thy lies and makes thy number 36 such words as are there set downe was not set downe in my booke which thou pretends to write this in answer unto therefore the absurdities spoken of and also the lies is turned back upon thee againe pag. 20. 21. For the Scriptures I own and that holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost 2 Pet. 20.21 but liers like thee I deny and against testifie Eph. 5.11 and the Scriptures serves to be a witnesse against such as professe them in words and walke contrary to them in life and conversation but liers slanderers and false accusers doe so as thou Haggar and Griffith and such like doth and therefore the Scriptures doth witnesse against you and your generation and seed of evill doers And such hath the benefit and comfort of the Scriptures as are guided by the holy Spirit into the life and power from whence good Scripture words proceeded yet the letter is not the life Joh. 5.39.40 and power of God to salvation but Christ and the Gospel is which the letter or Scriptures declares and testifies of Joh. 14.6 1 Joh. 5.12 Act. 4.12 Hebr. 5.8,9 Rom. 1.16 But thou seems as if thou would have a letter God a letter Christ a letter Spirit and a letter power to salvation or set the letter or Scripture up as God and Christ and power of God to salvation for thou saies faith comes by hearing the Scriptures preached which thou calls the Gospel and if by it thou saies then not without it and so according to that no Scripture no faith no salvation for without faith it is impossible to please God and be saved but according tothy saying or false doctrine no Scripture no faith and so making Scripture the moving cause of mens salvation for if there can be no saith without the Scripture then Christ might not be the author of it neither upon that account could he give faith if the Scripture were wanting and if there an be no faith without the Scripture thou would not have Christ to be the author and finisher of it but the letter and so sets the Scripture in the roome of Christ saying take away the Scripture which thou calls the cause and then the effect thou saies ceaseth so no Scripture no savtation upon thy account as much as to say the Scripture is the cause of mans salvation and not Christ and rake away the Scripture the cause and the effect ceaseth mind your Error or Lies herein Christ cannot give faith nor save without them and by that meanes or according to that saying or false doctrin of Haggars and thine for he hath backed thee in it no faith without the Scripture though Christ be the way to faith and the moving cause of it and so both the beginning and ending or author and finisher of it as the Scripture saith and saith Christ without mee you can do nothing then not beleive without him for he is the way to the Father Joh. 14.6 and so to faith who is both the author and finisher of it Hebr. 12.2 and here thou hast shewed thy ignorance of the Gospel and

but could not prove their saying therein and yet is to prove and the question to answer in the ground and true meaning which thou hast but made a poore shuffle in Error or Lies 58. 59 60. But to come on to turne thee thy lies back upon thee againe in page the 38. there is thy 58. 59. and 60 lies where thou saies as the Pharisees were without mercy so are you but thy testimony is false therein and where thou saies you look for justification by the law and by following the imaginations of an evill heart in you And thy 60 lie is where thou saies you are now through unbeleife departed from the pure way of the Lord those lies shall stand for thy selfe for the pure way of the Lord which is Christ the true light we are not departed from but walke in Joh. 1.9 Joh. 14.6 Joh. 8.12 And such as say we are departed from the pure way when we walk in it they must needs be guided by a lying and an erring Spirits as thou art and as we walke and so abide in him he keepeth us and teacheth us also to shew mercy to the objects of it and being mercifull we obtaine mercy and are blessed as to such Christ in his doctrine hath said Mat. 5. vers the 7th but we are taught also to reprove the deceipt and to have no fellowship with the unfruitfull works of darkness Eph. 5,11 at which thou and the Serpents seed are offended as they were at Christ our example in mercy and way to the Father who called them a generation of vipers and said how shall you escape the damnation of hell Mat. 23.33 And he who is our peace and way to the Father to wit Christ Jesus is our justification and sanctification also for by his blood are we justified and by his life are we saved Rom. 5.8.9.10,11 1 Cor. 1.30 and not as thou falsly saies therefore thou art left charged with those three lies that I have here answered which makes thy number 60 And being given over to lie thou art doubling or trebling them where thou art slandering and accuseing us falsly for thou saies As the Pharisees boasted more of themselves then any other people that shall stand for your selves that stick in the shadows as they did after the substance was come but thou saies so are these men boasting of perfection But boasting we deny yet we witnesse to the truth as before is said and therefore thou art here charged with another lie so making thy number 61 and thou saies we boast of perfection as the book declares but the book doth not say or declare that we boast of perfection perfection and therefore thou hast belied the book as the wise hearted may see and that shall stand for thy 62 lie And going on to lie making it thy work so to do thou saies they make it their whole work to overthrow the rule of the Scripture and all the ordinances thereof but we do not as thou saies and therefore thou art left charged with other 2 lies which makes thy number 64 The Rule or ground of the Scriptures is that from which they did proceed but the holy Scriptures and ordinances thereof proceeded from God and his Spirit and to say that God and his Spirit and so the rule of the Scriptures c can be overthrowne that is absurdity or meere blasphemy and we do not seek to do it neither is it any part of our worke to do as thou saies therefore take notice and be for ever ashamed of such thy absurdities or blasphemy and lies that makes it thy businesse to lie and-goes on in it saying they throw aside all the Laws and Ordinances of the Lord Jesus that is but to fill up thy number of lies and makes it amount to 66 and many more which I passe by which is not here mentioned but these may serve to let thee see thy folly and that others may see by what a lying and erring Spirit thou art guided and led that makes it thy businesse to lie and so to sin and serve thy Father the Devill Joh. 8.44 Rom. 6.16 and see thy portion for thy Fathers worke and remember that liers are for the lake Rev. 21.8 And where thou would raise severall lies upon mee from what is written in the beginning of my book about the worships of God c it is but as the rest of thy lies and deceitfull worke and therefore lies having no force in them to weaken the truth the book shall and doth cleare it selie of thee And this shall be a witnesse or further testimony against thy lying refuge which truth sweeps away or turnes back upon thee and thy partakers againe and keeps it selfe pure and cleane so for to remaine Take notice of another trick which the deceipt and that lying Spirit hath taught thee where thou art speaking against the plaine and proper language of thee and thou which thou saies is a proper language to any single person and afterwards saith it is not binding or to be performed If the wicked used it as well as the godly in former ages what a poore shift is that for thou saies if in all ages we finde the Lords people useing this terme and proper language of thee and thou to a single person c. and they only useing of it then thou saies it is granted that you err in that thing if you do it not but if the worst of men used it as well as the best of men then it is not binding or to be performed thou saies As much as to say though truth be truth and right and proper and ought to be obeyed and walked in yet because wicked men and enemies to it profess it as well as the godly and upright that in obedience to the Lord do practise it then it is not binding and to be walked in c. Oh horible delusion And as much as to say because the Devill and his disciples made use of the Scriptures for their own ends as well as the godly did for the truths defence yet according to thy argument they are not binding to be walked in c. because the Devill and wicked men made use of them as Christ and his disciples and the best of men did c And so thou saies the terme thee and thou is the proper or true and right speech to any single person yet because the Devill and the worst of men used it as Christ and the best of men did therefore it is not binding to be performed and practised thou saies oh horible deceipt Though I passe by many of thy lies yet I cannot but put thee in minde of some more of them and turne them back upon thee againe in page 29 first thou art Quering and saies Quisitively is not your mercy and pittie turned into bitternesse and hatred c here thou shews thou knows not but art quiering by thy darke minde into the things then presently after in the