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A65842	A brief discovery of the dangerous principles of John Horne (a priest in Lin) and Thomas Moore junior both teachers of the people called Mooreians or Manifestarians, (and called by some free-willers or independants.) In answer to their book called A brief discovery of the people called Quakers, and a warning to all people to beware of them and of their dangerous principles, &c. Which book is a false narrative of two disputes, the one which they had with John Whitehead at Gedney in Lincoln-shire, and the other with Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger, at Lin in Norfolke, both in the seventh moneth, 1659. Also priest Horns testimony against his brethren the priests. This is to go amonst the professors in England in discovery of the truth; ... By the truth which is in George Whitehead. John Whitehead. George Fox the younger.	Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723.; Whitehead, John, 1630-1696. aut; Fox, George, d. 1661. aut	1659 (1659)	Wing W1896; ESTC R220960	30,510	44

in one Nature and it is not safer for the Sheep as ye have falsely said to abide with the one then the other for neither of them cares for the Sheep no further then to make a prey upon them and all such we bear a Testimony against being redeemed out of their Nature and it is the will of Christ that his sheep should leave the hirelings for they care not for the Sheep and that they should follow him and hear his voice and Christs sheep do so they hear Christs voice who have called them from the Hirelings and Strangers and their voices they will not regard And such as Christ sends to feed his Sheep in the Pastors of Israel they are no Hirelings as ye foolishly imagine but they have freely received and they freely give and such are not greedy of filthy lucre neither do they rèceive Tithes by a corrupt unjust Law made by Apostates as thou John Horn dost but they do what they do of a willing and a ready mind and are not hired to it for a certain sum but such if they have not of their own may and do receive Food and Rayment of such as receive them and their Testimony and this is according to the Apostles Doctrine and is owned and practised amongst us the Servants of the Lord called Quakers whom ye in your rayling lying accusations liken unto Foxes and Wolves but your words shall become your own burthen and with the Spirit of the Lord we see you in the devouring beastly Nature which the Lord is against and will rent J. Horn T. Moor the people are too generally guilty too and lay themselves open to these delusions and deluders because too generally they neglect Christ and his Truth take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulnesse formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things by which means they are in danger to perish whether they keep out of these mens snares or falls into them howbeit they are exposed to their snares thereby because they afford the deceivers matter to work upon can find many faults in them many things to accuse them of though some things that God never charged them with before these men came set themselves Masters but in many things really evil they have too great advantage and mens consciences by the effect of the law in them which is not Christ bearing witnesse that they say true in those things that they fault them in Answ. Here it is manifest by your own words that ye are the false Prophets that have not profited the people that notwithstanding all your Preachings the people still neglect Christ and his Truth and take no pleasure therein but rather in slothfulness formality covetousnesse pride and vanity in apparel and in many other things and are in danger to perish whether they come after us or not as ye confess so it is clear to all that have any understanding that ye have not stood in the Counsel of God for if you had then you should have turned the people that had received your Doctrine from the evil of their way and from the evil of their doings Ier. 23. but People have long received you and your Doctrine and yet live in their evil wayes Therefore be ashamed and stop your mouths ye Hypocrites who also speaks against covetousnesse pride and vanitie in apparel in the People and of their neglect of Christ and his Truth when many of you their Teachers are found in covetousnesse Pride and vanity in apparel wearing your Cuffs and Ribbands and White Boot-hose-tops and Teaching for Tithes and Gifts and Rewards and most of these in particular thou Iohn Horn art guilty of and in the twentieth page of your Book ye confesse your selves to be guilty of the neglect of Christ the salvation of God and the abuse of his truth so here it is plain that wherein ye have judged others ye have condemned your selves Rom. 2. 1. and made it appear that you are like Priests like People Hos. 4. 9. and we whom the Lord have redeemed out of the vanity and wickednesse of this world do judge you for your wickednesse and bear our Testimony against it in that which hath redeemed us from it and although we are counted by you to be deceivers when we judge you for your wickednesse yet the Lord owns our judging of you because it is in that which answereth the effect of his Righteous Law in mens consciences which beareth witnesse that we speak true as you our enemies are made to confesse And it was the Ministers of Christ that were manifested to Peoples consciences in the sight of God and not the deceivers for the effect of the Law in people where it was witnessed or was did not nor do not cause their consciences to bear witness to the deceivers Doctrine but against it so it is manifest that you judge contrary to the effect of the Law who have judged them to be deceivers whom mens consciences by the effect of the Law in them beareth witnesse unto And the Law in men which witnesseth unto the truth and against sin is light and it is the Law of the Spirit of Life which is in Christ Jesus which freeth those that believe and walk in it from the power of sin and death but those that believe not in it but hate it it beareth witness against them and their evil deeds and remains their condemnation and it is you that have set your selves masters and not we who exercise Lordship one over another and have mens persons in admiration and respect mens persons and calls and are called of men Masters contrary to Christs Doctrine but we although we be the Lords free men yet we are become servants unto many in the truth Ministring and labouring for the gathering of the scattered Seed John Horn Thomas Moore They to get a partie as the Jesuits do exposing themselves to some abuses and sufferings from the rude people make themselves more like Chri●is Ministers to the simple people Answ. We indeed suffer much for righteousness sake and for bearing our testimony against unrighteousness and you who are Teachers oft causeth our sufferings to be the greater by your lying and railing against us thereby stirring up the rude people to abuse us even as your forefathers the Priests and Pharisees did who stirred up the rude people against our Master Christ and his servants in former dayes for which the Lord will assuredly reward you in righteousness But we will in all things approve our selves as the Ministers of God in much patience in affliction in necessitie in distresses in stripes in imprisonments in tumults c. 2 Cor. 6 and our lives are not dear unto us but are freely given up to serve the living God in spreading his living truth and it is for no other end God is our witness though ye wickedly judge otherwise And then John Horn and Thomas Moore goes about to shew the cause why and how the

A BRIEF DISCOVERY OF THE Dangerous Principles OF John Horne a Priest in Lin and Thomas Moore junior both Teachers of the people called Mooreians or Manifestarians and called by some Freewillers or Independants In Answer to their Book Called A brief Discovery of the People called Quakers and a Warning to all people to beware of them and of their dangerous principles c. Which Book is a false Narrative of two Disputes the one which they had with John Whitehead at Gedney in Lincoln-shire and the other with Geo. Whitehead and Geo. Fox the younger at Lin in Norfolke both in the seventh Moneth 1659. Also Priest Horns Testimony against his brethren the Priests This is to go amongst the Professors in England in Discovery of the Truth For in this Answer the Truth is cleared and John Horne and Tho. Moores Ignorance discovered concerning Perfection and the Resurrection and the Body and Blood of Christ and his Light and other things of concernment and their abusing the Truth which is set over them and their deceits made manifest By the Truth which is in George Whitehead John Whitehead George Fox the younger Jer 10. 21. For the Pastors are become bruitish and have not sought the Lord therefore they shall not prosper and all their flocks shall be scattered Printed for Thomas Simmons at the Bull and Mouth near Aldersgate 1659. TO THE READER THat all People who reads this Treatise may see the confusion and Ignorance of John Horne and Thomas Moore who long have been owned as eminent Teachers by many that are deceived by them it is seen sit that they seriously here take a view of some of the Principles affirmed by the said John Horne and Thomas Moore at the dispute that we had with them as ordered of the Lord at Lin in Norfolke the fifteenth day of the seventh Moneth 1659. for their booke which is hereafter confuted hath some relation to their Principles which are laid down as followeth Thomas Moore affirmed That sin is a natural Heritage in the believers while they are here That their nature is restored in Christ speaking of their own nature and that their nature is a filthy nature and Christ took upon him their nature John Horne That they that had no guile in them had sin in them That every sin is not guile T. M. That the blood of Christ shed is not in his Person in heaven but the virtue of it T. M. That the blood of Christ shed is the foundation of their faith but where it is they answered not nor could they tell T M. That the Life of Christ is not in the bloud of Christ so from this then the foundation of their faith hath not the Life of Christ in it T. M. That the Light with which Christ lighteth every man is both natural and spiritual T. M. That the Person of Christ viz. of flesh and bone is a quickening spirit and dwells in the believers by faith and to prove it he said That the Corinthians dwelt in the heart of Paul J. H. To that of 1 Cor. 15. 45. The last Adam was made a quickening spirit John Horne said That he was distinct from the Eternal Spirit T M. To prove sin a natural heritage in believers so long as they are here he brought that of Rom. 7. 17. These Doctrines with many such like were taken notice of by many as they were asserted by the said John Horne and Thomas Moore and contradicted by the Truth at the Dispute aforesaid wherein it is so easie to see their darknesse and confusion that we need say little about them at present but proceed to Answer their Booke which in effect hath the very same Doctrines in it with many such like so that we desire that our following Answer may be seriously read without prejudice or envy against us and let the Light of Christ judge between us and our Accusers whereby the Readers hereof may see the errours and confusions of these men aforesaid confuted by the Truth and us who love it cleared from their slanders and revilings ANd now John Horne and Thomas Moore you have charged us called Quakers with being guilty of great errors 1. In that you say we plead for and maintain a perfection of sinlessnesse in our selves in this life and to prove this a great Error you say that the Apostles never said of themselves or any other man or woman besides Christ Jesus that they had no sin in in them Answ. Here you are found in the great Error your selves who deny the perfection of sinlesnesse in the believers in this life the Apostle said he that believeth hath the witnesse in himself 1 John 5. 10. which witnesse is perfect and sinlesse so not without the perfection of sinlesnesse and he that believeth hath obtained witnesse that he is righteous and having this perfect witnesse in himself he is not without the perfection and purity of it in himself for the witnesse of God cannot be divided from the nature of it and John said speaking of Christ as he is so are we in this world 1 John 4. 17. so you have manifestly wronged both us and the Apostles and we do not say that there is any perfection in ourselves without Christ who is our righteousnesse and we the righteousnesse of God in him Again to prove our maintaining perfection in this life an Errour you say Christ was manifested to take away sin and in him is no sin 1 John 3. but never is it said so of any other and that it is no where said by any one of the Saints of themselves or of any of their Brethren that they had no sin in them or were not sinners Answ. Here you would accuse the Saints or Brethren with having sin in them and with being sinners while in this life But mark how fairly you have contradicted your own doctrine you tell us It is said indeed that he that abideth in him sinneth not and he that is born of God doth not commit or worksin because the seed of God abides in him neither can he sin that is commit work or yield up to sin because he is born of God you say So you may here see what J. Horn and T. Moore have confessed that he that abideth in Christ sinneth not and that he that is born of God cannot sin nor yield up to sin because his seed remains in him whereas before they have counted our maintaining a perfection of sinlesness in this life a great errour and would accuse the Saints and Brethren with being sinners so any that are not wholly blind may see their confusion and how they have broken themselves upon the stone which they have been making warre against for if Christ be made manifest to take away sin then they in whom he is made manifest are not to have sin remaining in them so long as they are in this life and if he that is born of God cannot sin nor yield up to sin then he is not a

used any such canting language as they call it against Christ but own his sufferings in Judea and Jerusalem as he was a true offering and propitiation for the sins of the whole world whose sufferings were effectual both for the pacifying of his Fathers wrath and for the reconciling of the whole world as is witnessed by them who receive the Power of his life which was manifest thorow death to them that truely believed thorow Christs sufferings and in page 9. the said J. Horn and T. Moor have belyed George Whitehead in saying that he alleadging 2 Cor. 5. 16. to prove that the Apostles did not know Christ as one that suffered in the flesh or to be in the flesh which is exceeding false for that Scripture henceforth we know no man after the flesh and though we had known Christ after the flesh yet henceforth know we him so no more it was brought against your knowledge which is but carnal and stands in imaginations who neither truly know Christ as he was in the flesh nor after the Spirit but contend against the knowing of him as he was before the world was and as you say you neglect Christ and so against the knowledge of the glory of God as a knowledge to Salvation when as they neither knew Christ nor any man after the flesh but after the Spirit they knew Christ and one another in that Spirit and Power in them which was before the world was but this knowledge you are out of who know but naturally In page 9 10. J. Horn and T. Moor again affirm that the nature of man as in Christ is perfectly freed from sin and curse and without spot of sin and the same nature of man even in believers having sin in it as a naturall Heritage from the first Adam fallen Answ. See their gross error and confusion which is as much as to affirm that as the nature of man is in the believers it 's separate from Christ and so believers in Christ having sin in them originally from Adam as a natural heritage so they would make believers have two heritages a naturall and a spirituall an old delusion of the Priests for the true believers are in Christ and by his power do witness their nature purified by that which brings out of Adams fallen state to witness a better heritage then sin in their nature for they that are in Christ have escaped the corruptions of the world and witness an incorruptible heritage in the divine nature and this is known as there is an biding in Christ the power of God And in page 1● they charge us with denying the humanity of Christ and say we judge him only a spirit Answ. We never denyed the man Christ for his flesh is our food for our owning Christ to be a spirit the Apostles owned him to be the same the Lord is that spirit and the last Adam was made a quickening spirit 2 Cor. 3. 1● 1 Cor. 15. 45. Again they have affirmed that Christ is personally in heaven and yet by faith in the believing heart and that he is not really and personally in believers as in heaven but by faith and yet Moor before said that Christs person of flesh and bone is a quickening spirit Answ. If Christ is not really in the believers and if his being in them by faith is not reall then it is but imaginary herein J. Horn and T. Moore have manifested their faith to be no better then the Papists faith as I told them wherein I did not belye them as they accuse me for the faith of the Elect doth really evidence to them Christ in them the mystery and the power of God and this faith is not divided from Christ the object or foundation of it And now concerning the blood of Christ shed which T. Moore at the dispute owned to be the foundation of your faith and yet affirmed that the body of Christ is in heaven with flesh and bones but not the blood in it and so knew not where the blood is Now they tell us in page 11. that his blood was shed or powred out for the Remission of our sins and in the vertues of it is with the Father and so in and with Christ Answ. Herein they have plainly confuted themselves for they also confess that they could not assert where the material blood as they call it or blood of Christ shed is and yet now say that in the vertues of it is with the Father and in and with Christ so J. Horn and T. Moons hearers may now see how they have confuted their former Doctrine who before would not own that the blood of Christ shed is in the body of Christ yet now say it is with the Father and in Christ in the vertues of it and now to clear themselves from our telling them that they preached a foundation of Faith which they knew not where it is and which according to their own confession before they knew not whether it is in being or not They tell us That the dying of Christ or his death is the foundation of their faith and yet this dying as to the act of it is not alwayes in being nor is the blood simply the foundation of their faith Answ. Here again they have preached that to be the foundation of their Faith which is not in being when as the foundation of the true Faith is Christ who is in being and another foundation can no man lay then that which is laid which is Christ and as for what he acted in sufferings that was done that thorow his sufferings and works men might believe in him who worketh Faith in them and know him to be the foundation of Faith who is in being and not that which is not in being as they imagine and have declared and they now owning the blood of Christ shed not simply to be the foundation of their faith then if they own it as part of the foundation of their Faith then are they still at a loss for they know not where it is and so according to their own words they want part of the foundation of their faith we blame them not neither did we blame them for not asserting that the blood shed is in the body of Christ but for calling it the foundation of their faith whether they own it so simply or compoundedly seeing they know not where the blood is nor whether it is in being and so we blamed them for their confusion and establishing a blind and dead faith T. M. his instance for Christs being in Heaven with a body of flesh and bones without blood in it was that we do not read that there was any blood in Adams body in Paradice for which he might as well have said that then Adams body in Paradice had no life in it and such a body they imagine Christs to be when as the blood is the life and all Nations are made of one blood Acts 17. 26. Now we ask them